Re: [CTRL] Ambassador Walker?

1999-12-25 Thread Michael Pugliese

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I haven't seen it but a British director made a film about William Walker
entitled simply "Walker" that came out during the Sandanista govt. in
Nicaragua in the 80's. Directors last name is Cox I think, and one of the
stars is Joe Strummer, of the punk/lefty rock band The Clash.
   Michael Pugliese

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[CTRL] Ambassador Walker?

1999-12-24 Thread Linda Minor

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http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/article/5/0,5716,34875+1,00.html

filibustering

originally, in U.S. history, the attempt to take over countries at peace
with the United States via privately financed military expeditions, a
practice that reached its peak during the 1850s. In U.S. legislative usage,
the term refers to obstructive delaying tactics (see filibuster).

Spurred by land hunger and by the desire of proslavery Southerners to add
future slave states to the Union, filibusterers were active during the
decade prior to the American Civil War. Starting in 1849, Narcisco López led
three unsuccessful expeditions against Cuba. He convinced many prominent
Southerners that the island was ripe for revolt against Spain. In his last
attempt (1851), López landed in Havana with a contingent of Southern
volunteers. The expected popular uprising against Spain failed to
materialize, and López, along with about 50 Southerners, was executed by
Spanish military authorities.

The high point of American filibustering was reached under William Walker, a
Californian who first tried to take Mexican Baja (Lower) California and then
turned his attention to Nicaragua. In 1855 Walker took advantage of a civil
war in Nicaragua to take control of the country and set himself up as
dictator. In May 1856 President Franklin Pierce recognized the Walker
regime.

So there was a connection between this Walker, apparently, and the
ancestors of Barbara Pierce Bush.

http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/article/5/0,5716,57085+5,00.html
In 1826 Nicaragua became a state within the United Provinces of Central
America, but it left the federation in 1838. The British seized the small
Caribbean port of San Juan del Norte in 1848 and held it until 1860. During
the 1850s, Cornelius Vanderbilt's steamship company transported prospectors
bound for the California gold fields from the Atlantic to the Pacific by
steamship on the San Juan River and Lake Nicaragua. William Walker, a
filibuster from Tennessee, managed to establish himself as president of
Nicaragua in 1856. He was routed a year later, however, by the efforts of
the five Central American republics and Vanderbilt's steamship company.

For about a century after the nation reached independence in 1838,
Nicaragua's politics were dominated by the competition for power between the
Liberals, who were centred in the city of León, and the Conservatives, who
were centred in that of Granada. These two sides shifted the capital back
and forth between their respective cities until a compromise was reached in
1857 under which Managua, which lay equidistant between the rival cities,
was made the capital.

Conservatives headed the government for most of the second half of the 19th
century, but in 1893 the Liberals gained the presidency and proceeded to
persecute the Conservatives just as the latter had previously persecuted
them. The Liberals held power until 1909, at which time pressure from the
United States led to the installation of a Conservative government. To back
up its support of the new government, the United States sent a small
detachment of marines into the country. The withdrawal of the marine
detachment in 1925 was followed by the eruption of a new civil war between
the Liberals and the Conservatives, and in response the United States sent
several thousand marines in to suppress a Liberal-led insurrection in 1927.
Two successive U.S.-supervised elections resulted in the election of Liberal
presidents in 1928 and 1932, respectively. The marines withdrew from
Nicaragua in 1933 after having carefully trained the Nicaraguan National
Guard to keep order in the country.

In 1934 the head of the National Guard, Anastasio Somoza García, instigated
the assassination of the preeminent remaining Liberal rebel leader, César
Augusto Sandino, and in 1936 Somoza ran for the presidency without
opposition. Somoza ruled Nicaragua with an iron hand for 20 years, and,
though considerable economic development took place during that time, the
benefits were inequitably distributed in favour of the Somoza family and its
supporters. Somoza was assassinated in 1956 and was succeeded by one of his
sons, Luis Somoza Debayle, who ruled until his own death in 1967. He was
succeeded by his brother, Anastasio Somoza Debayle. Meanwhile, a guerrilla
movement opposed to the rule of the Somozas and known as Sandinistas (after
César Augusto Sandino) had been founded in 1962.

An earthquake devastated Managua in 1972, killing 6,000 people and leaving
another 300,000 homeless. Opposition to the Somoza regime intensified after
the government diverted international aid from the earthquake's victims to
enrich the Somoza family instead. The Sandinistas then joined forces with
liberal and middle-class opponents of the government, and a widespread
popular insurrection overwhelmed the National Guard and overthrew Somoza in
1979.

The Sandinista-dominated government expropriated the vast property holdings
of the Somoza 

Re: [CTRL] Ambassador Walker?

1999-12-24 Thread Kris Millegan

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Linda, this research is very telling, thanks. Throw in with this the interest
shown over the years by SB boys in the Phillipines and a little Gen. Smedley
Darlington Butler and the China Trade and steamships and United Fruit and
railroads and slaves and opium and cocaine and money and control and there
starts to emerge an interesting picture. Ne pas?

Om
k

In a message dated 12/24/99 8:14:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/article/5/0,5716,34875+1,00.html



filibustering



originally, in U.S. history, the attempt to take over countries at peace

with the United States via privately financed military expeditions, a

practice that reached its peak during the 1850s. In U.S. legislative usage,

the term refers to obstructive delaying tactics (see filibuster).



Spurred by land hunger and by the desire of proslavery Southerners to add

future slave states to the Union, filibusterers were active during the

decade prior to the American Civil War. Starting in 1849, Narcisco López
led

three unsuccessful expeditions against Cuba. He convinced many prominent

Southerners that the island was ripe for revolt against Spain. In his last

attempt (1851), López landed in Havana with a contingent of Southern

volunteers. The expected popular uprising against Spain failed to

materialize, and López, along with about 50 Southerners, was executed by

Spanish military authorities.



The high point of American filibustering was reached under William Walker,
a

Californian who first tried to take Mexican Baja (Lower) California and
then

turned his attention to Nicaragua. In 1855 Walker took advantage of a civil

war in Nicaragua to take control of the country and set himself up as

dictator. In May 1856 President Franklin Pierce recognized the Walker

regime.



So there was a connection between this Walker, apparently, and the

ancestors of Barbara Pierce Bush.



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Re: [CTRL] Ambassador Walker?

1999-12-24 Thread Linda Minor

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That's why I tend to believe we can't beat them at their own game.  The only
way to defeat them is to take away their secrecy.  It's the only protection
they have.  If we can understand HOW they operate, and who they use to do
their dirty work, then everything is much clearer.  But we have to see the
overall picture first, and I think that's what is becoming more apparent the
more we dig into the roots of the drug trade.  It truly is the octopus.

Linda


-Original Message-
From: Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ambassador Walker?


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Linda, this research is very telling, thanks. Throw in with this the
interest
shown over the years by SB boys in the Phillipines and a little Gen.
Smedley
Darlington Butler and the China Trade and steamships and United Fruit and
railroads and slaves and opium and cocaine and money and control and there
starts to emerge an interesting picture. Ne pas?

Om
k

In a message dated 12/24/99 8:14:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/article/5/0,5716,34875+1,00.html



filibustering



originally, in U.S. history, the attempt to take over countries at peace

with the United States via privately financed military expeditions, a

practice that reached its peak during the 1850s. In U.S. legislative
usage,

the term refers to obstructive delaying tactics (see filibuster).



Spurred by land hunger and by the desire of proslavery Southerners to add

future slave states to the Union, filibusterers were active during the

decade prior to the American Civil War. Starting in 1849, Narcisco López
led

three unsuccessful expeditions against Cuba. He convinced many prominent

Southerners that the island was ripe for revolt against Spain. In his last

attempt (1851), López landed in Havana with a contingent of Southern

volunteers. The expected popular uprising against Spain failed to

materialize, and López, along with about 50 Southerners, was executed by

Spanish military authorities.



The high point of American filibustering was reached under William Walker,
a

Californian who first tried to take Mexican Baja (Lower) California and
then

turned his attention to Nicaragua. In 1855 Walker took advantage of a
civil

war in Nicaragua to take control of the country and set himself up as

dictator. In May 1856 President Franklin Pierce recognized the Walker

regime.



So there was a connection between this Walker, apparently, and the

ancestors of Barbara Pierce Bush.



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Re: [CTRL] Ambassador Walker? -warning jpeg file 173 k

1999-12-24 Thread Kris Millegan

Kinda like . . .

Om
K

In a message dated 12/24/99 9:03:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

That's why I tend to believe we can't beat them at their own game.  The
only

way to defeat them is to take away their secrecy.  It's the only protection

they have.  If we can understand HOW they operate, and who they use to
do

their dirty work, then everything is much clearer.  But we have to see
the

overall picture first, and I think that's what is becoming more apparent
the

more we dig into the roots of the drug trade.  It truly is the octopus.



Linda

 octydrugpus copy



Re: [CTRL] Ambassador Walker? -warning jpeg file 173 k

1999-12-24 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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I never had a post take longer than 3-4 minutes to get to list on
esosoft, therefore, even tho I don't know about topica, I say
"don't fix it if it ain't broke!"

And, MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL:)



On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, Kris Millegan wrote:

 Kinda like . . .

 Om
 K

 In a message dated 12/24/99 9:03:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 That's why I tend to believe we can't beat them at their own game.  The
 only
 
 way to defeat them is to take away their secrecy.  It's the only protection
 
 they have.  If we can understand HOW they operate, and who they use to
 do
 
 their dirty work, then everything is much clearer.  But we have to see
 the
 
 overall picture first, and I think that's what is becoming more apparent
 the
 
 more we dig into the roots of the drug trade.  It truly is the octopus.
 
 
 
 Linda


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