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-Caveat Lector- No truer words have been written. The SIN TAX is the life blood of these servants of the people. Back in early January, the San Jose Mercury News had an article on this subject and in this article they mentioned one of the Indian Resverations (I can't remember if it was Idaho, Montana, Dakotas, ), were still and would continue to sell cigs at $18.50 per carton and would ship to California, etc, without any additional taxes! Anybody ==Need web site for Indian Reservations??? REPLY SOON==Carton in Calif is $33.55 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Another 55 cents a Pack
-Caveat Lector- Kat, u lil bugger, how are u? liz DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/25/1999 6:44:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kat, u lil bugger, how are u? Dear Liz, I am enjoying most of the stuff on this list, even tho some of it gives me the willies! You intrigued me with your forwarding so much that I just had to subscribe! Now, tell me the rest of your secrets!! Love, Kathy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Another 55 cents a Pack
-Caveat Lector- dear Kat in this list, when u hit reply to, or reply to all, doesnt matter, goes to the whole list, unlike the artbellinfo list. I dont post much, theres some flaming here, and indeed , i ,with my joking nature, may have been guilty of that(if so, Andrew, I apologise-about the Camilla/morphing/ Rotweiler crack, as i do believe you are in some distress) But Kat , i guarrantee u will have a good time here and many sites to explore!! liz DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Another 55 cents a Pack
http://www.timesheraldonline.com/judge/docs/news10.shtml - Dan Judge Column Jan. 17: Clinton in a puff of smoke Et tu, Clintonus, et tu? Yes, Bill Clinton, the world's most famous smoker, has stabbed his fellow lung jockeys in the back. Well, actually he stabbed us a little lower - in the wallet. The president has proposed a federal tax increase of 55 cents per pack on cigarettes to help pay for new domestic and military spending programs. And this from a guy who was photographed lighting a stogie in what proved to be a premature celebration of the Paula Jones case being thrown out of court. Not to mention that El Presidente and his girlfriend also managed to turn the very word "cigar" into a dirty joke through their abuse of tobacco products. The Hypocrite-in-Chief's tax proposal, supposedly designed to keep kids from smoking but really meant to make him look good during the Senate's impeachment trial, comes immediately on the heels of a 45-cent increase by the tobacco companies in December. That boost was forced by the settlement of lawsuits filed by 46 states seeking reimbursement for health-care costs caused by smoking. Here in California, Jan. 1 also saw the enactment of actor-director-creep Rob Reiner's Prop. 10, which levies a 50-cent increase per pack - more like 87 cents once you do the voodoo tax math involved - to raise funds for early childhood development programs. Folks, the smell of money is in the water and the politicians and actor-director-creeps are swarming. It's D-Day in the Battle for Enforced Health and the lead invasion troops are hitting the beaches of Normandy. Only this time smokers get to be the Germans. And here I am using this column once again to play the part of Axis Sally, broadcasting discouraging messages to the advancing soldiers: "Go home, G.I.'s! This is not your fight! Your government is being unfair and this war is unjust! Besides, your wife is probably sleeping with the milkman while you fight this stupid battle!" But I see there's no point to it anymore. We've already lost. Heck, I came to grips with the fact I'd probably have to quit smoking two price hikes ago when the boss turned down my request for a cost-of-dying increase. Arguments about individual freedom and the unfairness of punishing one segment of society for purchasing a legal product fell on deaf ears. Our defeat was assured by the fact that tobacco has been demonized to the point where most people don't even think it's possible to mistreat a smoker anymore. As a result, no one squawks when the politicians and Rob Reiner move in for an unchecked feeding frenzy. Game over. They win. I believe it's going to be something of an empty victory, though. The increases might have made some kind of sense if the revenues were used to implement anti-smoking programs and defray medical costs due to cigarettes. That way the need for more money to fund the programs would naturally diminish along with the dwindling number of smokers paying the tab. But politicians and Rob Reiner are greedy scum, so they aren't doing that. Only a fraction is going toward anti-smoking efforts or health costs while the rest is spent on items completely unrelated to cigarettes. Clinton wants to spend his proposed tax money on after-school programs, support for disabled workers, hiring new police officers, tax credits and $100 billion worth of new military projects. Reiner wants to spend his Prop. 10 money on...on...well, no one really knows for sure yet, but he's promised us some kind of ongoing programs for kids. The states plan to spend their settlement money on everything from sidewalk-fixing programs to - and I love this one - helping tobacco farmers. If all these people are successful in their stated purpose to make people quit smoking through exorbitant taxation, all their wonderful ongoing programs will turn out to be built on sand. As the smokers disappear, the funding goes up in smoke, too. Their only option will be finding something else to demonize and tax. My advice would be to stock up your liquor cabinet. I firmly believe these idiots are going to pump the sin well for money until we're a country known mainly for its tax-driven puritanism. But, like I said, there isn't really any point in arguing. We've lost. The only thing left is to be mean and petty and hope there are a lot of senators who smoke presiding over our two-faced president's impeachment hearing. In a perfect world, they'd let us impeach movie directors, too. Return to the Judge Index || Return to Times Herald Homepage All rights reserved. Copyright 1998, Times Herald. This content may not be archived, retransmitted, saved in a database, or used for any commercial purpose without the express written permission of the Times Herald..
