-Caveat Lector- Wednesday, Feb. 17, 1999 Military defends missions Some in area agree; others fear exercises By JAMES A. SUYDAM Staff Writer The Corpus Christi City Council on Tuesday gave a unanimous thumbs-up to the mysterious troops in Army helicopters that have been buzzing the area recently. "Texas has a long, rich history of supporting the U.S. military," Mayor Loyd Neal said before the council voted its support for the Special Forces exercises being conducted in the Coastal Bend. Two soldiers -- who asked to be identified as J.D. Zumwalt and Sam Joseph -- briefed the council on the operations and addressed several concerns about citizen safety related to the exercises. Zumwalt also expressed his exasperation with the conspiracy theories that have been fanned by their helicopters. "Sometimes I wish we could paint them red, white and blue and put a big sign on them, `we are the good guys.' " Zumwalt told the council. "We paint them black so that the bad guys can't see us coming. I don't know what X-Files episode started all paranoia about the black helicopters. Those are American pilots with American soldiers who love this country in those helicopters." During the exercises, the soldiers have been seen swooping low over residential areas in Annaville, Kingsville and Port Aransas in black helicopters with no lights. The soldiers, wearing black face masks and night-vision goggles, use explosives and sometimes fire live rounds during the exercises, the soldiers said. "Our guys have been hurt and even killed during these types of exercises," Joseph told the council. "But we have never had any significant civilian injuries." Zumwalt said that 50 to 60 soldiers are involved with the two-week exercise, and that they will be conducting one more operation in the city of Corpus Christi. Zumwalt said that the U.S. Army Special Operations Command in Fort Bragg had received permission from the city for the exercises and that the mayor, City Manager David Garcia and Police Chief Pete Alvarez had been informed. The unit has encountered problems in other cities where their operations were widely known about, Joseph said. "We've had more problems with too many people knowing what's going on than not enough," Joseph said. In one case, he said, 200 people crowded onto the roof of an abandoned factory to watch the operation, threatening to collapse the roof and slowing the unit's vehicles. "The bars emptied all because one guy knew about it and started telling his friends who told their friends who told their friends," Joseph said. After several council members asked the soldiers about the drills, City Councilman Ed Martin asked for a vote by the council to show their support for the soldiers. Martin said he felt that the Army was right in not notifying the council. "If you would have told us, we would have held a rally or something," Martin said. Joseph said that all the Army could offer the city is its thanks for cooperating. "We're just here for two weeks, we know that. We have nothing to offer you but risk, we know that. The only thing we can give you is our gratitude," Joseph said. Staff writer James A. Suydam can be reached at 886-3618 or by e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday, we asked what you thought about the Army Special Forces training exercises being conducted in the Coastal Bend. Responses ranged from gratitude that the military is training hard to protect the country to theories that the exercises are part of a dark government conspiracy. Being an ex-Marine, I know that these training exercises are necessary. I think that if the buns of these people that are doing all the complaining were on the line, they would be more than glad to see these people doing what they are doing. Number one, the military has absolutely no business whatsoever preforming any exercises using military equipment -- which is prone to have accidents -- on any civilian property. Number two, above that, they have no business performing their exercises without notifying everybody that lives in that area. There's a lot of people out here that I've talked to that thought something went dangerously wrong at Koch Refinery and that we were all getting ready to get blown away or gassed. It shows a totally irresponsibility of (Mayor) Loyd Neal and the police chief to the citizens of Corpus Christi. And I do very much take offense to it and I do take offense to the military thinking that they could play their little games anywhere they want to. San Antonio said no to them, I wish our mayor had enough backbone to say no to them too. I'm very much against what they are doing here in the Coastal Bend. I don't think it's necessary and that it's harmful to the cities where they are training. Military training doctrine is that the next war will probably be fought in both rural and urban areas. So it's only natural that the Army would want to train in urban areas. They're going to need to get a feel for different areas around the country. It's okay that they come here. I thought it was part of a conspiracy. Why would they do it at night and not let the people know they were coming, even the officials? What if someone thought it was a bank robbery and opened fire on those soldiers? What they want to do is declare the American people dangerous with arms and take our guns away. I am thankful that we have people training to protect us in case we have terrorism or any other kind of assault on this country. We would be in terrible shape if we don't. I'm sorry for people that are getting scared but I am thankful for people that are training to protect me. I think this is the first indication of what is going to happen in 2000. The executive orders have already been signed that the constitution is to be suspended and we will see King William in power and in charge. And our rights as free citizens will be abdicated. We won't have them anymore. We let him get off lying and obstructing justice in this last fiasco trial. Our senators are gutless wonders. I think that this is just a preliminary of what 2000 is going to look like. We better wake up. I think the people of the Coastal Bend should be very happy to know that their military is doing what they are supposed to do. I think it's wonderful. I think we should have more of it. I think that the American public has the right to know what is going on in their own hometown. What if there were vagrants living in the burned building in Kingsville, or children playing or unaware law enforcement personnel who used force to defend their city? I can't believe that (Kingsville Police) Chief Garza failed to notify anyone about the training, not even the emergency management coordinator. And helicopters flying (with) no lights? Isn't that putting every other person in the area in danger of a mid-air collision? Why should we have to endure this? I realize that our armed forces need training but in cities and among uninformed citizens? Why can't they train in Area 51 far from any cities or civilians. I don't think they are telling us everything. I think that the Army is just doing their job. And the people who think there's a conspiracy have too much time on their hands and they need to get a life. To all the military services, you are welcome. The Army wants to train in this area, you are welcome to land on my place. We need them. We need them bad. Come on over to Portland, you're welcome down here. Most of these people complaining have never been in the military, have never even had a shot fired at them in anger. We need them. I think that David Garcia and the rest of the city officials should have their house stormed if they are so patriotic. I think I am against this, mainly from a safety issue, but I believe that they have handed these conspiracy theorists plenty of ammunition to fortify their overwhelming fear of the government. It's stupid. What's going to happen some day when a law-abiding, upstanding, good citizen is fearful at unmarked, black, middle-of-the-night, gun-shooting helicopters coming down on their homes, whips out their rifle and bam, shoots them? There is absolutely no reason for this. I wanted it stopped the first day I heard about this. It's stupid and it's irresponsible. This is not training, it's dangerous. Do we have a responsible government? I don't think so and this proves it. I think it's ridiculous that this President Clinton would allow this type of training among civilians. I think we have serious problems in Washington, D.C., and the White House to allow this kind of thing to go on. Rush Limbaugh is right -- there are a bunch of those wackos out there and the Kingsville officials really sound like they are out of their cage. If we can't put up with a little bit of military training, albeit a secret type mission, then we are in deep, deep doo-doo. I appreciate their diligence. If something were to happen everyone would complain if they weren't here. I'm very much against this. I think it's disgraceful for them to do in the town. That's what Hitler did in Germany when he was getting in power. Also, they didn't do that over here when they were training for the Second World War, so I think it's inappropriate. © 1999 Corpus Christi Caller Times, a Scripps Howard newspaper. All rights reserved. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! 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