Re: [CTRL] CHECK THIS: FR: Credibility of ballot suit claimants questioned
-Caveat Lector- From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > So it makes these 3's claims to have been flummoxed by the > > ballot design all the more suspicious...one suspects this > > ballot design challenge has been in the works for some > > time... > > Do you believe that these fraud accusations in several KEY states > might have been planned...maybe to "Internet-ize" all future > national elections?? I believe one outcome will be a stronger drive to change from the Electoral College to electing officials via the majority of the popular vote, however that vote is done. June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CHECK THIS: FR: Credibility of ballot suit claimants questioned
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 12 Nov 2000, Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote: > > So it makes these 3's claims to have been flummoxed by the > ballot design all the more suspicious...one suspects this > ballot design challenge has been in the works for some > time... Do you believe that these fraud accusations in several KEY states might have been planned...maybe to "Internet-ize" all future national elections?? = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CHECK THIS: FR: Credibility of ballot suit claimants questioned
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/11/2000 10:03:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << are savvy activists with political experience, not the sort of voters whoâd be stymied by a ballot layout. Yet as the plaintiffs at the center of a historic suit, each plans to testify that they personally voted for Patrick Buchanan when they were aiming to vote for Al Gore. >> The one I think should have sued was the lady who tried to get them to take a machine that was not calibrated off line. She went and called everywhere to no avail. That sounds like things are a bit screwy there. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CHECK THIS: FR: Credibility of ballot suit claimants questioned
-Caveat Lector- > But Gaines, now a homemaker, was for several years a member of > the Childrens Services Council, a big-budget, taxpayer-financed > group in Palm Beach County. [snip] > Abigail McCarthy also claims she cast the wrong vote, but shes > a County Commissioner, hardly a political naïf and presumably > someone who can navigate a ballot. [snip] > But Fladell, dim as he may be, is more than just the > chiropractor which many news accounts say he is. Hes also a > political consultant and Democratic activist, And as I pointed out in another post, sample ballots were mailed out a week before the election, so it is not a case of people suddenly being confronted with the 'zigzag design' when arriving to actually vote. So it makes these 3's claims to have been flummoxed by the ballot design all the more suspicious...one suspects this ballot design challenge has been in the works for some time... June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CHECK THIS: FR: Credibility of ballot suit claimants questioned
-Caveat Lector- CREDIBILITY OF BALLOT SUIT CLAIMANTS QUESTIONED A Nexis search of Florida newspapers shows all three plaintiffs, Abigail McCarthy, Lillian Gaines, and Andre Fladell are savvy activists with political experience, not the sort of voters whod be stymied by a ballot layout. Yet as the plaintiffs at the center of a historic suit, each plans to testify that they personally voted for Patrick Buchanan when they were aiming to vote for Al Gore. Lillian Gaines says shes mortified that she might have voted for Buchanan."I went to the polls for one specific reason, to vote for Gore I hit the second hole. I am sure I did," she told the Associated Press. "Somehow my right to vote had been taken away from me." But Gaines, now a homemaker, was for several years a member of the Childrens Services Council, a big-budget, taxpayer-financed group in Palm Beach County. Gaines popped up in local newspapers in 1993 when she defended the groups expenditure of $6,000 in taxpayer money on a beachside retreat. "From time to time, an organization needs to look at themselves," she told the Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel as a reason why taxpayers should put her and her fellow council members up in a resort hotel. Abigail McCarthy also claims she cast the wrong vote, but shes a County Commissioner, hardly a political naïf and presumably someone who can navigate a ballot. Andre Fladell, with lawyer Howard Weiss, was a guest on CNNs Larry King Live Thursday night. "I had no idea that in this country you have to read zig-zag and diagonal to know who youre voting for," he complained. "I didnt go there to take a test. I went in to vote for President." He told CNSNews.com that when it came to voting, "I wasnt too bright." But Fladell, dim as he may be, is more than just the chiropractor which many news accounts say he is. Hes also a political consultant and Democratic activist, who celebrated his hardball approach in a 1999 interview. "Politics is the greatest challenge," Fladell proclaimed to local journalist Harris Meyer. "Its where the best and worst in people comes out. You get the adrenaline of war without having to physically hurt anyone. --- Published: Unknown Author: Florida Papers Posted on 11/11/2000 05:45:07 PST by oneway http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a0d4d636d71.htm = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
