Re: [CTRL] CommentMax: Tyranny Is Here
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/01/2000 10:21:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Ya! Thank God animals have the right to be cooked properly with garlic and butter! MS >> You're right about that, but until you get around to that point, they should be treated decently. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >So maybe all these Amerikcan activists who headed for Prague to lend a hand are these very jewish socialists, etc., who are attempting to topple democracy and capitalism? Democracy and capitalism are two entirely different, and diametrically opposed, ways of life. Capitalism is inherently undemocratic. In a democracy, all people participitate in decision making. In capitalism, the vast overwhelming majority of the decisions that impact the everday life of most people is made by the boards of directors of the major corporations. These boards are not representitive of people as a whole. The represent only the stock holders. The vast overwhelming majority of stock is held by a handful of people. This is not democracy. This is plutocracy. One dollar, one vote. Capitalism must also be distinguished from free enterprise. In free enterprise, the state is not involved in any way. As soon as the state gets involved, enterprise is no longer free. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- --- Mike Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ya! Thank God animals have the right to be cooked properly with > garlic and > butter! HEY YOU!! I LOVE ANIMALS.MEDIUM RARE!! ROTFLMBO!! Tenorlove on her way to Mike's for dinner __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CommentMax: Tyranny Is Here
-Caveat Lector- > So far, the only activists from either spectrum I praise and pray for are the animal > rights activists. God Bless Them. Ya! Thank God animals have the right to be cooked properly with garlic and butter! MS http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CommentMax: Tyranny Is Here
-Caveat Lector- KOMRADES: I know this is going to sound a bit confused, but I find what is happening today with politikal korrektness and activists going at it every which way to be konfusing as to who is behind it all mostly. So bear with me, and any insights are greatly appreciated. Studying, as much as possible, all sides of the spectrum, from the left to the right, and the middle classes in between (otherwise known as the "Sheeples"), from what I see the "left" consists of liberals, well-meaning some, but behind the liberals seem to be mostly jewish/marxist/leninist/communist/socialists. I listen to WBAI-FM on the East Coast, and I saw on Channel 13 an hour documentary on the history of the flagship station called Pacifica. These two stations are the only two on the radio which promote all of the activist agendas. I thought at first this was great, because corporations were merging left and right and getting way too big and having way too much power. I think Eutrice Leeds (not sure if that's the correct spelling) is brilliant in explaining "The Man" and "The System". However, of late I've noticed that she, and all the other activists on the other programs seem to all for minority rights only. All the activists on WBAI, although I cannot see what race they are, most sound like young white females and males (mostly females). So, what are white activists so concerned about nothing but minority rights, here and all around the world? There are white people suffering too. I'm a tax slave, and who is talking for me? So, as I wonder just who these young white activists are, it seems now probably they are jewish/marxist/leninist/communist/socialists. The things they say are most certainly of a socialist-type bent, and how many times have I heard about the jews who pit one segment of society against the other, and after things have reached a pitch, they, the jewish marxists/leninists, etc., just step in. Look at how media, like Jerry Springer, a jew, caters to the worst elements of society. You don't see ANY jews on his show as guests. So maybe all these Amerikcan activists who headed for Prague to lend a hand are these very jewish socialists, etc., who are attempting to topple democracy and capitalism? Not to mention doing all possible for minority rule over, most especially, whites? On the other hand, maybe marxist/leninist/socialists/communists have a point? Big government and big corporations, and IMF, WTC, etc., even democracy, have done nothing for me as a tax slave living in Amerika. So maybe all these socialists are right, and maybe politikal korrektness is right, so that minorities get rule more around the world, including Amerika? Or that the "People" rule? Incidentally, the early Pacifica radio station gave voice to communists and two of them even had programs on. Just the other day I was listening to WBAI, and they were interviewing a communist politician, a homosexual too. Just thoughts, because I sure wish I could figure all this out. So far, the only activists from either spectrum I praise and pray for are the animal rights activists. God Bless Them. Any person who feels for the suffering of the Animal Kingdom, I KNOW they have a true HUMAN heart straight down the line. So, is CTRL mostly made up of marxists/leninists, etc., or what? Justine SIG HEIL! >>>In Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, there were victim groups that were championed and oppressor groups that were suppressed. In Germany, the "victims" were Aryans, who were said to be under the financial hegemony of Jews. In the Soviet Union, the hegemonic group was the bourgeoisie, who allegedly held sway over an oppressed proletariat. In both countries, victims were permitted to exercise violent language and actions against oppressors. In the United States today, white heterosexual able-bodied males constitute the hegemonic group. Everyone else is a member of a victim group. __ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[E
[CTRL] CommentMax: Tyranny Is Here
-Caveat Lector- COMRADES; CommentMax Tyranny Is Here Paul Craig Roberts Sept. 27, 2000 Tyranny is creeping up on us. If you don't believe it, consider the most prominent hallmarks of the Nazi and Communist regimes, which sought to supplant democracy in the 20th century. In National Socialist Germany and the Soviet Union, there were no First Amendment rights. No one could voice an opinion contrary to the politically correct views enforced by the Gestapo and the KGB. Media and education were used to instill politically correct thinking and bring denunciation upon anyone who departed from politically correct thinking. This is precisely the situation that exists today in the vast majority of American colleges and universities. Verbal and facial expressions that are contrary to political correctness result in sensitivity training (a form of brainwashing) or expulsion for the offender, who may have done nothing more than laugh. If the source of mirth is an ethnic joke, a blonde joke or a hilarious claim by a multiculturalist, the hapless offender discovers that his constitutional protections do not exist. In Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, there were victim groups that were championed and oppressor groups that were suppressed. In Germany, the "victims" were Aryans, who were said to be under the financial hegemony of Jews. In the Soviet Union, the hegemonic group was the bourgeoisie, who allegedly held sway over an oppressed proletariat. In both countries, victims were permitted to exercise violent language and actions against oppressors. In the United States today, white heterosexual able-bodied males constitute the hegemonic group. Everyone else is a member of a victim group. In Germany and the Soviet Union, the abstract and imaginary group roles of oppressor and victim were given a frightful reality by ideologues. Race and class categories became the basis for discrimination and new legal systems that favored victims' groups with preferences. On American campuses, multicultural ideology has revived the concepts of race and class oppression, and added new ones based on gender and sexual orientation. Men oppress women, and heterosexuals oppress homosexuals. According to multiculturalists, our culture and values reflect nothing but the arbitrary domination of society by white heterosexual males. University of Pennsylvania professor Alan Kors says that, thanks to multiculturalism, "half a century after the defeat of Nazism, we distinguish by blood and we equate blood with culture." We now think like Nazis and explain our society and culture in terms of race (and gender) hegemony. Tyrannical states attack the family. Both the Nazis and Communists are infamous for state intrusions in family affairs. In the United States, similar bureaucratic and political intrusions come from family courts. Most Americans are unaware of the existence of these relatively new "courts." Howard University professor Stephen Baskerville is the leading authority on these courts. He says family courts are "the most dangerous institution posing a threat to constitutional rights in our society. The only parallels are the ideological-bureaucratic dictatorships of the last century." Family courts claim immunity from the Constitution and from scrutiny by federal courts. Baskerville describes them as follows: "Their proceedings are secret and unrecorded. Their orders are enforced by bureaucratic police who do not wear uniforms and whose sole responsibility is to conduct surveillance over families and private lives. As such, these police are akin to secret police. By the very nature of their jurisdiction, these courts and police are the most intrusive and invasive arm of government, and yet they are accountable to virtually no one. Such an institution is intolerable in a free society." Recently a family court judge ordered the parents of a 7-year-old boy in Berne, N.Y., to put their child on Ritalin, a behavior-control drug. The alternative was to be found guilty of "educational neglect," an offense that would open the possibility of their child being seized by Child Protective Services - a Hillary Clinton "village" institution straight from the pages of the Gestapo. The child suffered serious side effects from the drug, but parents no longer have the right to decide what is best for their children. Tyrannical states assault the individual in the inner recesses of his consciousness. He is not permitted to think certain thoughts or to express a prohibited thought privately to anyone. Recently, Janice Barton encountered a Spanish-speaking couple while leaving a restaurant in Manistee, Mich. She turned to her mother and said, "I wish these (ethnic slur) would learn to speak English." An off-duty deputy sheriff overheard the private remark, followed the woman to her car and noted her tag number. Janice Barton was sentenced to 45 days in jail for her thought crime. This couldn't happen in a free country. Dr. Roberts' latest boo