Re: [CTRL] Down Under There Media Coverage ...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/24/1999 9:18:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: of the lot, as expected, was The Australian's Washington-based Cameron Forbes. A particularly nasty piece of left-wing work who never seeems to miss a chance to blame the Republicans for whatever is supposed to plague the US. I like this Forbes fellow. He sounds like my kind of guy. Tell us more about his ideas. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Down Under There Media Coverage ...
-Caveat Lector-
Hey, what do you mean "Down Under" ...The magnetic North Pole of earth is
the geometric South pole, so that makes us up and US down, does it not?
:)
Peter
We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
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From: Alamaine Ratliff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 2:16 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Down Under There Media Coverage ...
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From http://www.newaus.com.au/upfront.html
{{Begin}}
Rupert Murdoch's Australian savages Republicans over test ban
By Gerard Jackson
No. 139, 25 - 31 October 1999
Cameron Forbes
The refusal of the US Senate to ratify the International Comprehensive
Nuclear
Test Ban Treaty outraged Australian left-wing US-based journalists,
causing
them to vent their anger on the Republicans, never a difficult task. The
worst
of the lot, as expected, was The Australian's Washington-based Cameron
Forbes.
A particularly nasty piece of left-wing work who never seeems to miss a
chance
to blame the Republicans for whatever is supposed to plague the US.
Letting himself go, the self-righteous and dishonest Forbes accused the
Republicans of sending the world into "a mad nuclear arms race," of
creating an
"apocalyptic vision," of causing India, China, Russia, North Korea and
Pakistan
to conduct "further weapons test." But what could one expect, argued
Forbes,
when the likes of Jesse Helmes, a man who "makes teenagers look like
troglodytes", are nestling in the Senate. (Rupert Murdoch's Australian,
Ban the
bomb? Over Jesse's [Helmes] dead body, 15/10)
That those who opposed Clinton's test ban treaty could possibly have any
sound
or honourable objections was summarily dismissed by Forbes who described
them
". . . as people who do not want disarmament. They love the bomb - in the
name
of US security and superiority." Why it is morally indefensible to defend
US
security and maintain its military superiority is something that the
socialist
Forbes chose not to share with his readers. After all, it was this
military
superiority that kept Soviet barbarism at bay for more than 50 years. Is
that
why Forbes hates it so?
In another sickening example of selective quoting Forbes parroted the
left-wing
Chris Paine, a representative of the NRDC (Natural Resources Defence
Council),
which Forbes tried to pass off as just "an influential lobby group." This
is
absolutely false. The NRDC is a hardcore socialist green organisation that
has
condemned economic growth, synthetic fuels, genetic engineering and
nuclear
power, etc. It has done everything within its power to sabotage economic
development. During the Cold War it supported Soviet initiatives,
condemned
American defence spending and demanded a nuclear freeze by the US - but
not by
the Soviets.
It is fanatical and completely unprincipled. It provoked the alar scare,
claiming that its own experiments with mice proved that the chemical would
cause cancer in humans. Competent scientists extrapolated the NRDC's tests
to
humans and found that a person would have to eat 27,000 apples a day for
70
years to produce the kinds of tumours that massive doses produced in the
NRDC's
mice! It was later found that using the NRDC's own research, a mouse fed
with
half the maximum dose - equivalent to a man eating 14,000 apples a day for
70
years - produced no tumours. A fact that the NRDC did not report. As this
kind
of behaviour is the equivalent of what passes for journalistic ethics on
Murdoch's Australian, it's no wonder Forbes didn't notice. So it comes as
no
surprise that he grossly misled his readers about the nature of this
vicious
scaremongering outfit whose own founder resigned from it out of disgust
because
of the direction it had taken. Another fact, like so many others, that the
fearlessly honest Forbes neglected to mention.
Having quoted the extreme leftwing Paine, Forbes then quoted Joe Biden, a
leading left-wing Democratic Senator who described the Republicans
principled
rejection of Clinton's handiwork "as the US's worst mistake in his 27
years in
politics". And what do we know of Biden? Nothing good, as one would expect
of
someone respected by Forbes.
It was Biden who took to the Senate floor in September 1998 and
ferociously
argued that allowing America to defend itself against a nuclear missile
attack
by building an anti-missile system "will destroy the Anti-Ballistic
Missile
Treaty", completely ignoring the fact that Russia is working on such a
system.
Moreover, according to this great American patriot, such a defence system
would
force China and Russia to adopt a nuclear "launch-on-warning" strategy
which
would bring "nuclear war closer". What Biden and his left-wing
Congressional
ilk did was resurrect the doctrine of Mutual Assured Destruction. A
[CTRL] Down Under There Media Coverage ...
-Caveat Lector-
From http://www.newaus.com.au/upfront.html
{{Begin}}
Rupert Murdoch's Australian savages Republicans over test ban
By Gerard Jackson
No. 139, 25 - 31 October 1999
Cameron Forbes
The refusal of the US Senate to ratify the International Comprehensive Nuclear
Test Ban Treaty outraged Australian left-wing US-based journalists, causing
them to vent their anger on the Republicans, never a difficult task. The worst
of the lot, as expected, was The Australian's Washington-based Cameron Forbes.
A particularly nasty piece of left-wing work who never seeems to miss a chance
to blame the Republicans for whatever is supposed to plague the US.
Letting himself go, the self-righteous and dishonest Forbes accused the
Republicans of sending the world into "a mad nuclear arms race," of creating an
"apocalyptic vision," of causing India, China, Russia, North Korea and Pakistan
to conduct "further weapons test." But what could one expect, argued Forbes,
when the likes of Jesse Helmes, a man who "makes teenagers look like
troglodytes", are nestling in the Senate. (Rupert Murdoch's Australian, Ban the
bomb? Over Jesse's [Helmes] dead body, 15/10)
That those who opposed Clinton's test ban treaty could possibly have any sound
or honourable objections was summarily dismissed by Forbes who described them
". . . as people who do not want disarmament. They love the bomb in the name
of US security and superiority." Why it is morally indefensible to defend US
security and maintain its military superiority is something that the socialist
Forbes chose not to share with his readers. After all, it was this military
superiority that kept Soviet barbarism at bay for more than 50 years. Is that
why Forbes hates it so?
In another sickening example of selective quoting Forbes parroted the left-wing
Chris Paine, a representative of the NRDC (Natural Resources Defence Council),
which Forbes tried to pass off as just "an influential lobby group." This is
absolutely false. The NRDC is a hardcore socialist green organisation that has
condemned economic growth, synthetic fuels, genetic engineering and nuclear
power, etc. It has done everything within its power to sabotage economic
development. During the Cold War it supported Soviet initiatives, condemned
American defence spending and demanded a nuclear freeze by the US but not by
the Soviets.
It is fanatical and completely unprincipled. It provoked the alar scare,
claiming that its own experiments with mice proved that the chemical would
cause cancer in humans. Competent scientists extrapolated the NRDC's tests to
humans and found that a person would have to eat 27,000 apples a day for 70
years to produce the kinds of tumours that massive doses produced in the NRDC's
mice! It was later found that using the NRDC's own research, a mouse fed with
half the maximum dose equivalent to a man eating 14,000 apples a day for 70
years produced no tumours. A fact that the NRDC did not report. As this kind
of behaviour is the equivalent of what passes for journalistic ethics on
Murdoch's Australian, it's no wonder Forbes didn't notice. So it comes as no
surprise that he grossly misled his readers about the nature of this vicious
scaremongering outfit whose own founder resigned from it out of disgust because
of the direction it had taken. Another fact, like so many others, that the
fearlessly honest Forbes neglected to mention.
Having quoted the extreme leftwing Paine, Forbes then quoted Joe Biden, a
leading left-wing Democratic Senator who described the Republicans principled
rejection of Clinton's handiwork "as the US's worst mistake in his 27 years in
politics". And what do we know of Biden? Nothing good, as one would expect of
someone respected by Forbes.
It was Biden who took to the Senate floor in September 1998 and ferociously
argued that allowing America to defend itself against a nuclear missile attack
by building an anti-missile system "will destroy the Anti-Ballistic Missile
Treaty", completely ignoring the fact that Russia is working on such a system.
Moreover, according to this great American patriot, such a defence system would
force China and Russia to adopt a nuclear "launch-on-warning" strategy which
would bring "nuclear war closer". What Biden and his left-wing Congressional
ilk did was resurrect the doctrine of Mutual Assured Destruction. And yet this
is exactly what Forbes had the nauseating nerve to accuse Republicans of doing.
What a sickening hypocrite.
The truth is that Biden has a shocking record on American Defence. (Why else
would Forbes quote him approvingly). Biden was a strong supporter of the
Coalition for a New Foreign Military Policy. This umbrella organisation was
formed in 1976 by the notoriously pro-Soviet Institute for Policy Studies and
consisted of 55 left-wing groups. Readers will not be surprised to learn how
closely it toed the Soviet line which included "unilateral disarmament" and aid
to "liberated" countries like totalitarian
