Re: [CTRL] FW: [CTRL] AUTISM ON RISE
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 29 May 2001, Aleisha Saba wrote: Who do you believe? I choose to believe a reliable source and the sources I have check out most certainly were reliable...this item reflects the views of professional sources And yet you either cannot read, or chose to pick and choose that portion of the article that bolsters your prejudices... To whit: Although perceived as being outside the groups that worry about AIDS, some lesbians may face a substantial risk of HIV infection because their behaviors do not follow the stereotypical views of this population, according to studies by researchers from UCLA and other institutions. While the risk of female-to-female transmission of HIV does appear to be small, judging lesbians' risk solely on this issue ignores evidence that some lesbians may use intravenous drugs and engage in sexual relations with men -- often young gay men -- according to the studies appearing in a special edition of the journal Women's Health. This does not negate the statement I made. MOST lesbians engage in solely female-with-female intercourse, and most are also in committed relationships (most reliable studies back this up) and also are NOT drug users. Disease risk increases with sexually risky behavior, and this applies to heterosexuals as equally as homosexuals. Shared needle use also increases health risk, not just for HIV but for hepatitis, tetanus, etc. Just because SOME lesbians may be drug users who share needles, or some may engage in sexually risky behavior, does not mean that lesbians as a group represent a health risk. The good news is that our research suggests that, as generally believed, most lesbians do not face a high risk of HIV infection, said Susan Cochran, a UCLA public health epidemiologist and author of several of the studies in the special issue. Which is exactly what I stated in my first post. June Check out Alternative Kite radio: http://www.live365.com/stations/242153 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: [CTRL] AUTISM ON RISE
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: YnrChyldzWyld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 8:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] FW: [CTRL] AUTISM ON RISE MOST lesbians engage in solely female-with-female intercourse, and most are also in committed relationships (most reliable studies back this up) Are these reliable studies anything like the reliable studies the FDA uses to approve new drugs the pharmaceutical giants just happen to have spent millions of dollars developing? Studies, polls, statistics are all different forms of falsehoods. They determine a mathematical average that applies to no one individual. Useless information. Language like this that is obviously meant to be convincing needs to be exposed for what it is. The psychological need to be right does not make others wrong. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: [CTRL] AUTISM ON RISE
-Caveat Lector- I passed this on to a friend who is an autism researcher whom I happen to know personally, who wishes to remain anonymous for professional reasons. I got back this: Vaccination is almost surely a major contributing factor to the rising rate of autism, but it is not the sole cause of autism. To say so is to make your arguments easily rebutted, to wit: 1. Autism existed long before vaccines. 2. There are many people who have autism but have never been vaccinated. 3. Autism is a set of symptoms, not a single disorder with a single cause. There is no doubt among any researcher I know--and I know most of them-- that autism is a genetic disorder. But like some forms of breast cancer, it's a genetic disorder that involves inheriting a gene or combination of genes that puts a person at risk for, but that do not directly cause, the disease. Today's vaccines, which contain mercury and which are given before an infant's immune system is fully formed, are one very likely contributing factor. They are an environmental insult of the sort that could cause those genes to be expressed, causing the disorder. Research in the early 60s showed that atypical measles exposure (before age 6 mos., or measles and mumps at once) was a risk factor for autism. For an infant with an impaired immune system, which is the case for most persons with autism, the MMR shot would appear to deliver exactly that type of risky atypical exposure, even without the mercury-based preservative, which further depresses the immune system. I can't speak for the Medical Mafia, but there are quite a few mainstream researchers looking into the vaccine/mercury angle (see www.mindinstitute.org for info on one group at UC Davis Medical Center.) Even NIH was forced to admit last year that the connection deserved attention--although apparently not their funding. Other angles deserving of attention include organophosphate pesticides and heavy metals like lead and mercury from sources other than vaccines, among other environmental causes. As the saying in autism research circles goes, there's no such thing as a genetic epidemic. There absolutely, positively has to be one or more probably many environmental causes involved in the rising rates. Incidentally, the rise in cases of autism is hitting the third world particularly hard, and this story has gotten little play in the US or the UK. Rates in China, the Philippines, India, etc. are also skyrocketing. And guess who is now getting boatloads of perfectly good, free, mercury-containing vaccines that have been taken off the Western market? You guessed it... now THERE'S a conspiracy, not unlike the shipping of BSE-infested feed to Malaysia by Britain in the '90s, when the UK government ordered it taken off the local market. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: [CTRL] AUTISM ON RISE
-Caveat Lector- I am still wondering why the USA government bought $45,000,000.00 worth of vaccine from UK? Cui Bono? Will someone quadruple the price and sell it over here? UK just got caught using a lot of obsolete outdated vaccines which some say, could cause a problem kids now have to be revaccinated. Now this new AIDS virus should be lovely; iimagine putting that crap in the blood of a beautiful child - teach your children to keep away from homosexuals and lesbians and other sources of disease. Might check some of this cocaine coming into the country for the sharing of needles may not be the only way, certain diseases are spread - the cocaine itself could be contaminated. There is nothing new under the sun; the information I had on this brain fever and autism causing vaccines dates back to 70 period, early 70 period - and was put out by the US Department of Health - they admitted some of this crap would cause brain swelling, etc. So those who polluted the blood of our children with these vaccines one shot after an other, look into their eyes and see the monsters for the God Almighty American Buck. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: [CTRL] AUTISM ON RISE
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 29 May 2001, Aleisha Saba wrote: Now this new AIDS virus should be lovely; iimagine putting that crap in the blood of a beautiful child - teach your children to keep away from homosexuals and lesbians and other sources of disease. Lebianism does NOT pose a disease risk, certainly as far as HIV is concerned. Neither does male homosexuality, in and of itself. What causes a potential health risk is promiscuous sexual behavior, whether homesexual or heterosexual. June Check out Alternative Kite radio: http://www.live365.com/stations/242153 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: [CTRL] AUTISM ON RISE
-Caveat Lector- What causes a potential health risk is promiscuous sexual behavior, whether homesexual or heterosexual. Wrong. What causes a potential health risk is the exchange of bodily fluids in cases where one participant is already infected. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: [CTRL] AUTISM ON RISE
-Caveat Lector- Well what would you say the answer is June - give everyone a shot of green tea or should they practice maybe some ofo the teachings in the bible. There are numerous articles backing up AIDS and the spreading of AIDSfor instance in Africa the Africians tried to blame AIDS on truck drivers on the road, bringing the disease home to their wives. Me, think as you want; I know this - those that were bit by the needle are alledged to have lived and those today in modern times who are bit by the needle while sharing cocaine using same needle, die a horrendous death. If AIDS is a virus or if AIDS was a vaccine that caused immune system to fail - Americans have right to know. Per capital wise - wonder how it goes in New York and in Los Angeles.now, it is said horses can get these diseases - why? Yet in estrogen - it is made from horse serum and now it is said, the use of estrogen has causes numerous cases of cancer? Who do you believe? I choose to believe a reliable source and the sources I have check out most certainly were reliable...this item reflects the views of professional sources I do note intend to research this garbage further for I find even the discussion of same repugnant - but there is a duty of the parents to protect their children from such people who now want to invade the boy scouts by an organized effort and other groups for obvious reasons. And these people want a chance to harass and molest our children and young people? At least now that they are out of the closet, we know their objective and it is obovious to me, to send these people out - especillay among our young children i.e., this one sodomist just arrested with AIDS who molested these little chldren - they are more dangerous than any gun. Next thing June you will be supporting placing Lepers in our communities for lebrosy I understand is increasing - maybe Mother Theresa could deal with that crap, but I am not Saint material. Saba Jan. 31, 1997 Lesbians' Risk of HIV Infection May be Greater Than Perceived; Studies Highlight Need for More Lesbian Health Research Although perceived as being outside the groups that worry about AIDS, some lesbians may face a substantial risk of HIV infection because their behaviors do not follow the stereotypical views of this population, according to studies by researchers from UCLA and other institutions. While the risk of female-to-female transmission of HIV does appear to be small, judging lesbians' risk solely on this issue ignores evidence that some lesbians may use intravenous drugs and engage in sexual relations with men -- often young gay men -- according to the studies appearing in a special edition of the journal Women's Health. The good news is that our research suggests that, as generally believed, most lesbians do not face a high risk of HIV infection, said Susan Cochran, a UCLA public health epidemiologist and author of several of the studies in the special issue. However, there is a smaller group of lesbians, who tend to be young and still may be unsure about their sexuality, who engage in activities that may put them at risk. Understanding better the HIV infection risks of lesbians is important because it may lead to better prevention programs for high-risk groups and better treatment for lesbians who are infected, according to researchers. Issues relating to lesbians and HIV risk have not been addressed by research thus far, said Cochran, a professor at the UCLA School of Public Health. The problem for women in the community is that silence is not reassuring. Younger lesbian and bisexual women may be at greater risk for HIV infection than older lesbians and bisexual women because they may sexually experiment with men -- including young gay and bisexual men who are among those most at risk for HIV, according to a study headed by Cochran. Surveying more than 350 lesbians aged 18 to 25 from Los Angeles County, Cochran and her colleagues found that 26 percent reported sex with men in the prior year and 19 percent reported sex with a gay man in the prior three months, according to the study. One basic fact is that most lesbians have sex with men at some point in their lives, usually early in their lives when they may be unsure about their sexuality, Cochran said. The partners tend to be the people they socialize with, who are often young gay men. In another study that surveyed more than 8,500 lesbian and bisexual women in different parts of the country, Cochran found that lesbians who were most likely to report sex with a man in the past year are more likely to describe themselves as bisexual, be of a younger age, be less educated and not be in a lesbian relationship. In addition, researchers found that black lesbians are more likely to be heterosexually active. In this group, which included women of a wider age range, 12 percent reported heterosexual activity within the past year. The findings from Cochran's studies and others
