Re: [CTRL] Fake Terrorism - The Road To Dictatorship
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Tatman, Robert wrote:
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> And the Mexican War was equally a manufactured war, created with the sole
> objective of opening the way for U.S. annexation of a significant portion of
> Mexican territory.
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Subject: [fwo] GENL: Re: Fake Terrorism and the Road to Dictatorship
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 08:43:43 -0800
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>`Under the slogan "Remember the Maine", Americans went to war with
>Spain, wresting from that nation ownership of what is now much of the
>American southwest.
Actually, the southwest was taken in a earlier crime spree during the 1840's
that the then-alleged "government of the united states" managed to provoke
the then-alleged "government of mexico" into starting. Thoreau became
famous during this period for being a
"war tax resister"- i.e. refusing to pay tribute to the gang that committed
crimes on behalf of "america's" secret gang of robbers & murderers. The
"splendid little bloodbath" of 1898 gave the secret gang of robbers &
murderers a bunch of Caribbean & Pacific possessions, including the
Phillippines, and marked the beginning of the gang's status as a
"recognized world power".
>While several American Presidents have willingly started wars for
>personal purposes, perhaps no President has ever carried it to the
>extreme that Bill Clinton has.
I disagree here. I certainly do not doubt the mendacious talents for
"improv" fiction of the current dog-wagger-in-chief, but, although his
crimes are blatant & numerous enough to earn the "title" for the last
several decades, he is, in the last analysis, just too petty and preoccupied
a crook to measure up to previous hoodlums-in-chief, namely, in addition to
FDR, Wilson & Lincoln(not necessarily in order).
Lincoln, to an extent no thug-in-chief had previously dared, trashed
protections of individual rights; denied due process to people not even
charged w/ specific crimes; engaged in the most expensive & ruinous war ever
to take place on the North American continent; ordered & authorized his
accomplices, especially
"generals" Sherman & Grant, to commit crimes against those posing no threat
to them, with the express intention of destroying their livelihoods and
making them dependent on the caprices of jackbooted thugs for their very
survival; he & his successors ordered further such crimes, persisting for
years after the official end of the "war"; and he & his sucessors issued a
continual stream of lies, distortions, and stupifying drivel, specifically to induce
otherwise sensible people to endorse all of these criminal acts. To cap it all off,
when those oppressed by his crimes were afforded a small token of justice by way of
the shooting of this thug-in-chief while he spent stolen funds
wallowing like a prized pig in unearned & undeserved luxury, not only the
shooter, but several others as well, including a doctor who had done nothing
more than perform his proper duties and others who had little or no
connection w/the shooting, were ruthlessly hunted down & killed by goons
acting under pretense of enforcing "the law"(so-called). His crimes served
to set considerable precedents for the steady expansion of tolerated
criminality& repression of agoric voluntarism that plagues the world to this
day-and because of this, the secret gang of robbers & murderers has decreed
that his birthday, (together with that of the first gangster-in-chief, who
was quite a character himself, gaining power in the bloodless coup that
created the high-level gang(aka the so-called "federal government") that
collects tribute for the secret gang) be comemmorated with a national
holiday, and that every concentration campus("school"), crimethink
suppressor("TV", "radio", "papers", "magazines", etc.), local& regional
crime-syndicate headquarters("local", "county", and "state" "government"
(so-called) offices), and propaganda organ(public relations offices,
chambers of commerce, etc.) be filled to bursting with effusive praise for
this wretched humanoid organism's "great accomplishments"
and "selfless service"! The only thing he accomplished in any public
capacity was death & destruction; the only "selfless" public act he ever
performed(albeit very much against his will) was to die. The good that came
from his acts- the manumission & enfranchising of African-descended slaves-
was neither desired nor supported by him. His sole interest was in
maintaining & increasing his power over both North & South. Clinton's
self-interest may be clumsier and more blatantly obvious- but it is hardly
more "extreme". The myth that massive worldwide crime sprees(often
mislabeled as "wars") are undertaken for charitable or benevolent purposes
is one of the many insidious lies used to gain support- and to blame antiwar
protesters & "subversives" when the "benevolent purposes" fail to
materialize as promised.
Ayn Rand put it well (Atlas Shrugged, p. 962):
"...if the
Re: [CTRL] Fake Terrorism - The Road To Dictatorship
-Caveat Lector- And the Mexican War was equally a manufactured war, created with the sole objective of opening the way for U.S. annexation of a significant portion of Mexican territory. > -Original Message- > From: nessie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 10:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fake Terrorism - The Road To Dictatorship > > -Caveat Lector- > > >Under the slogan "Remember the Maine", Americans went to war with Spain, > wresting from that nation ownership of what is now much of the American > southwest. > > > "Ownership of what is now much of the American southwest" was actually > wrested from a different nation, Mexico, in a war with equally bogus > beginnings, over half a century earlier. > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting > propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid > matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and > outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor > effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to > readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fake Terrorism - The Road To Dictatorship
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Fake Terrorism - The Road To Dictatorship By Michael Rivero http://24.142.63.193/perl/profile?op=show&user=Michael%20Rivero It's the oldest trick in the book, dating back to Roman times; creating the enemies you need. In 70 BC, an ambitious minor politician and extremely wealthy man, Marcus Licineus Crassus, wanted to rule Rome. Just to give you an idea of what sort of man Crassus really was, he is credited with invention of the fire brigade. But in Crassus' version, his fire-fighting slaves would race to the scene of a burning building whereupon Crassus would offer to buy it on the spot for a tiny fraction of it's worth. If the owner sold, Crassus' slaves would put out the fire. If the owner refused to sell, Crassus allowed the building to burn to the ground. By means of this device, Crassus eventually came to be the largest single private landholder in Rome, and used some of his wealth to help back Julius Caesar against Cicero. In 70 BC Rome was still a Republic, which placed very strict limits on what Rulers could do, and more importantly NOT do. But Crassus had no intentions of enduring such limits to his personal power, and contrived a plan. Crassus seized upon the slave revolt led by Sparticus in order to strike terror into the hearts of Rome, whose garrison Sparticus had already defeated in battle. But Sparticus had no intention of marching on Rome itself, a move he knew to be suicidal. Sparticus and his band wanted nothing to do with the Roman empire and had planned from the start merely to loot enough money from their former owners in the Italian countryside to hire a mercenary fleet in which to sail to freedom. Sailing away was the last thing Crassus wanted Sparticus to do. He needed a convenient enemy with which to terrorize Rome itself for his personal political gain. So Crassus bribed the mercenary fleet to sail without Sparticus, then positioned two Roman legions in such a way that Sparticus had no choice but to march on Rome. Terrified of the impending arrival of the much-feared army of gladiators, Rome declared Crassus Praetor. Crassus then crushed Sparticus' army and even though Pompeii took the credit, Crassus was elected Consul of Rome the following year. With this maneuver, the Romans surrendered their Republican form of government. Soon would follow the first Triumvirate, consisting of Crassus, Pompeii, and Julius Caesar, followed by the reign of the god- like Emperors of Rome. The Romans were hoaxed into surrendering their Republic, and accepting the rule of Emperors. Julius Caesar's political opponent, Cicero, for all his literary accomplishments, played the same games in his campaign against Julius Caesar, claiming that Rome was falling victim to an internal "vast right wing" conspiracy in which any expressed desire for legislative limits no government was treated as suspicious behavior. Cicero, in order to demonstrate to the Romans just how unsafe Rome has become hired thugs to cause as much disturbance as possible, and campaigned on a promise to end the internal strife if elected and granted extraordinary powers. What Cicero only dreamed of, Adolph Hitler succeeded in doing. Elected Chancellor of Germany, Hitler, like Crassus, had no intention of living with the strict limits to his power imposed by German law. Unlike Cicero, Hitler's thugs were easy to recognize; they all wore the same brown shirts. But their actions were no different than those of their Roman predecessors. They staged beatings, set fires, caused as much trouble as they could, while Hitler made speeches promising that he could end the crime wave of subversives and terrorism if he was granted extraordinary powers. The Germans were hoaxed into surrendering their Republic, and accepting the rule of Der Fuhrer. The state-sponsored schools will never tell you this, but governments routinely rely on hoaxes to sell their agendas to an otherwise reluctant public. The Romans accepted the Emperors and the Germans accepted Hitler not because they wanted to, but because the carefully crafted illusions of threat appeared to leave no other choice. Our government too uses hoaxes to create the illusion that We The People have no choice but the direction the government wishes us to go in. In 1898, Joseph Pulitzer's New York World and William Randolph Hearst's New York Journal were arguing for American intervention in Cuba. Hearst is reported to have dispatched a photographer to Cuba to photograph the coming war with Spain. When the photographer asked just what war that might be, Hearst is reported to have replied, "You take the photographs, and I will provide the war". Hearst was true to his word, as his newspaper published stories of great atrocities being committed against the Cuban people, most of which turned out to be complete fabrications. On the night of February 15, 1898, the USS Main, lying in Havana harbor i
Re: [CTRL] Fake Terrorism - The Road To Dictatorship
-Caveat Lector- >Under the slogan "Remember the Maine", Americans went to war with Spain, wresting from that nation ownership of what is now much of the American southwest. "Ownership of what is now much of the American southwest" was actually wrested from a different nation, Mexico, in a war with equally bogus beginnings, over half a century earlier. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fake Terrorism - The Road To Dictatorship
-Caveat Lector- Fake Terrorism - The Road To Dictatorship By Michael Rivero http://24.142.63.193/perl/profile?op=show&user=Michael%20Rivero It's the oldest trick in the book, dating back to Roman times; creating the enemies you need. In 70 BC, an ambitious minor politician and extremely wealthy man, Marcus Licineus Crassus, wanted to rule Rome. Just to give you an idea of what sort of man Crassus really was, he is credited with invention of the fire brigade. But in Crassus' version, his fire-fighting slaves would race to the scene of a burning building whereupon Crassus would offer to buy it on the spot for a tiny fraction of it's worth. If the owner sold, Crassus' slaves would put out the fire. If the owner refused to sell, Crassus allowed the building to burn to the ground. By means of this device, Crassus eventually came to be the largest single private landholder in Rome, and used some of his wealth to help back Julius Caesar against Cicero. In 70 BC Rome was still a Republic, which placed very strict limits on what Rulers could do, and more importantly NOT do. But Crassus had no intentions of enduring such limits to his personal power, and contrived a plan. Crassus seized upon the slave revolt led by Sparticus in order to strike terror into the hearts of Rome, whose garrison Sparticus had already defeated in battle. But Sparticus had no intention of marching on Rome itself, a move he knew to be suicidal. Sparticus and his band wanted nothing to do with the Roman empire and had planned from the start merely to loot enough money from their former owners in the Italian countryside to hire a mercenary fleet in which to sail to freedom. Sailing away was the last thing Crassus wanted Sparticus to do. He needed a convenient enemy with which to terrorize Rome itself for his personal political gain. So Crassus bribed the mercenary fleet to sail without Sparticus, then positioned two Roman legions in such a way that Sparticus had no choice but to march on Rome. Terrified of the impending arrival of the much-feared army of gladiators, Rome declared Crassus Praetor. Crassus then crushed Sparticus' army and even though Pompeii took the credit, Crassus was elected Consul of Rome the following year. With this maneuver, the Romans surrendered their Republican form of government. Soon would follow the first Triumvirate, consisting of Crassus, Pompeii, and Julius Caesar, followed by the reign of the god- like Emperors of Rome. The Romans were hoaxed into surrendering their Republic, and accepting the rule of Emperors. Julius Caesar's political opponent, Cicero, for all his literary accomplishments, played the same games in his campaign against Julius Caesar, claiming that Rome was falling victim to an internal "vast right wing" conspiracy in which any expressed desire for legislative limits no government was treated as suspicious behavior. Cicero, in order to demonstrate to the Romans just how unsafe Rome has become hired thugs to cause as much disturbance as possible, and campaigned on a promise to end the internal strife if elected and granted extraordinary powers. What Cicero only dreamed of, Adolph Hitler succeeded in doing. Elected Chancellor of Germany, Hitler, like Crassus, had no intention of living with the strict limits to his power imposed by German law. Unlike Cicero, Hitler's thugs were easy to recognize; they all wore the same brown shirts. But their actions were no different than those of their Roman predecessors. They staged beatings, set fires, caused as much trouble as they could, while Hitler made speeches promising that he could end the crime wave of subversives and terrorism if he was granted extraordinary powers. The Germans were hoaxed into surrendering their Republic, and accepting the rule of Der Fuhrer. The state-sponsored schools will never tell you this, but governments routinely rely on hoaxes to sell their agendas to an otherwise reluctant public. The Romans accepted the Emperors and the Germans accepted Hitler not because they wanted to, but because the carefully crafted illusions of threat appeared to leave no other choice. Our government too uses hoaxes to create the illusion that We The People have no choice but the direction the government wishes us to go in. In 1898, Joseph Pulitzer's New York World and William Randolph Hearst's New York Journal were arguing for American intervention in Cuba. Hearst is reported to have dispatched a photographer to Cuba to photograph the coming war with Spain. When the photographer asked just what war that might be, Hearst is reported to have replied, "You take the photographs, and I will provide the war". Hearst was true to his word, as his newspaper published stories of great atrocities being committed against the Cuban people, most of which turned out to be complete fabrications. On the night of February 15, 1898, the USS Main, lying in Havana harbor in a show of US resolve to protect her interests, exploded violently. Captain Sig
