Re: [CTRL] Fw: St. John's Wort as Effective as Antidepressant Drug 9/17/00
-Caveat Lector- Samantha, you didn't read what I wrote. I said *one faction* of the NWO favored synthetic medicines over natural ones... My implication was that this particular faction is interested more in protecting the endangered ecosystem than in promoting individual liberty. *This* is why they support the pharmaceutical industry, not because they necessarily support business--they tend to regard it as messy and inconvenient and rather prefer state monopolies--but because manmade medicines don't require plundering rainforests these particular NWO types regard as sacrosanct. I'm not talking about cultivated herbals; there are many which do not survive cultivation, or which lose their efficacy when cultivated, and these are still being harvested in the wild. This NWO faction may be allied to the Prince Philip-WWF group who appear to be interested in depopulating Africa, if speculation seen on this list some time ago is correct. In any event, my response to Amelia's post was REALLY designed to show how such a post could indeed be legitimate material for conspiracy theory. - Original Message - From: "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:55 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: St. John's Wort as Effective as Antidepressant Drug 9/17/00 > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 9/20/00 7:43:47 PM Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > I suspect that the NWO, or > > rather the faction of it that's pushing the Codex, favors synthesized > > medicines > > over herbal ones, partly because there is less potential risk to endangered > > species and ecosystems, especially in the tropical rain forests. > > I don't understand that argument. First of all, who ever accused Big > Business of being concerned about the ecosystem? Secondly, these herbs are > cultivated more often that wildcrafted. > > I'm glad some of the major pharmaceuticals are selling herbs. They are an > undeniably powerful lobby and Codex may have less of a chance because of them. > > Samantha > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: St. John's Wort as Effective as Antidepressant Drug 9/17/00
-Caveat Lector- What it has to do with conspiracy: The pharmaceutical companies, with their interlocking boards of directors, are conspiring to create a monopoly, with all people dependent upon THEM for the supply of medicines. That way, they can suck our wallets dry. It's the same reasoning behind elimination of non-hybrid seeds, GM foods, and anti-breastfeeding propaganda, to name a few of their tricks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: St. John's Wort as Effective as Antidepressant Drug 9/17/00
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/20/00 7:43:47 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I suspect that the NWO, or > rather the faction of it that's pushing the Codex, favors synthesized > medicines > over herbal ones, partly because there is less potential risk to endangered > species and ecosystems, especially in the tropical rain forests. I don't understand that argument. First of all, who ever accused Big Business of being concerned about the ecosystem? Secondly, these herbs are cultivated more often that wildcrafted. I'm glad some of the major pharmaceuticals are selling herbs. They are an undeniably powerful lobby and Codex may have less of a chance because of them. Samantha http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: St. John's Wort as Effective as Antidepressant Drug 9/17/00
-Caveat Lector- I've seen this report before; it appears legitimate. Now to the conspiracy connections: first, ALL of the big pharmaceutical firms have their own lines of "natural" remedies either on the shelves now or ready to go. Second, consider the Codex Alimentarius factor--will natural/herbal remedies still be allowed when the entire planet has come under the Codex? I suspect that the NWO, or rather the faction of it that's pushing the Codex, favors synthesized medicines over herbal ones, partly because there is less potential risk to endangered species and ecosystems, especially in the tropical rain forests. - Original Message - From: "Amelia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 11:54 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fw: St. John's Wort as Effective as Antidepressant Drug 9/17/00 > -Caveat Lector- > > Let's see--I am supposed to announce whether or not I believe this. I have > not decided as yet. And that is what the "Caveat Lector" is all about. Plus > my personal beliefs are none of anybody else's business. How does this tie > into conspiracies? Major pharmaceutical companies are attempting to prevent > free access to alternatives to their products. These products could be > equally beneficial as the very costly traditional ones. Any other > information required to post an article? > > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 10:58 AM > Subject: St. John's Wort as Effective as Antidepressant Drug 9/17/00 > > > > http://www.mercola.com/2000/sept/17/st_johns_wort_depression.htm > > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: St. John's Wort as Effective as Antidepressant Drug 9/17/00
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Amelia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 1:54 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fw: St. John's Wort as Effective as Antidepressant Drug 9/17/00 > How does this tie into conspiracies? Frankly, I don't think it does in terms of any "conspiracy" that i know of - although many 'Conspiracy Theorists' are extremely DEPRESSIVE personalities (ggg)! Major pharmaceutical companies are attempting to prevent > free access to alternatives to their products. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but looking on my common supermarket shelves, St Johns Wort is readily available for purchase, and some of it is bottled and marketed by well-to-do and known pharmaceutical companies. One I think ought be at least a tad cautious in this day and age, particular those addicted to, or imbibing heavy doses of the "conspiracy" milieu who seem to blindly leap into anything simply because it is badged as "ALTERNATIVE," or "secret knowledge," or "conspiracy." This area is now largely penetrated and dominated by "BIG CORP" and the use of the above euphemisms is little more than SMART MARKETING to the loony Esoteric, neo-Gnostic, Anarchist, Voguish, dippy New-Age-Oprah oddballs, and so on and so forth types, who are besotted with such "alternative" lip-homage placebos. > These products could be > equally beneficial as the very costly traditional ones. Any other > information required to post an article? I've heard people speak well of the stuff that have used it, against some of the addictive, and side-issues of the pharma-chemical concoctions they also tried - but I don't know if there have been any serious long term or scientific studies done? > > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 10:58 AM > Subject: St. John's Wort as Effective as Antidepressant Drug 9/17/00 > > > > http://www.mercola.com/2000/sept/17/st_johns_wort_depression.htm > > > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: St. John's Wort as Effective as Antidepressant Drug 9/17/00
-Caveat Lector- Let's see--I am supposed to announce whether or not I believe this. I have not decided as yet. And that is what the "Caveat Lector" is all about. Plus my personal beliefs are none of anybody else's business. How does this tie into conspiracies? Major pharmaceutical companies are attempting to prevent free access to alternatives to their products. These products could be equally beneficial as the very costly traditional ones. Any other information required to post an article? Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 10:58 AM Subject: St. John's Wort as Effective as Antidepressant Drug 9/17/00 > http://www.mercola.com/2000/sept/17/st_johns_wort_depression.htm > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
