Dear People: I received both of the posts directly from Helmut Lammer. I did some editing to the previous posting, just to edit out references to CAUS and Peter Gersten's instructions for subscribing to his daily on-line communications. KK -- - - - - - Start of Post from Helmut Lammer - - -- - - - - - - - - - - What Would Freud Say? - He Would Say: I Donīt Know! Reply to the March 1999 response from Mrs. Victoria Alexander concerning my MILAB article (MUFON UFO Journal December, 1996). by Helmut Lammer, Ph.D. I feel "honored" to be worth a reply by Victoria Alexander after the insignificant period of two years. Given the length of her article and the substantial number of quotes, I can understand what took her so long. Itīs just unfortunate that in all these two years she could not spare the time to read MY article "Preliminary Findings of Project MILAB" (December 1996) carefully. It is obvious that Mrs. Alexander wrote her recent response under the false impression that I try to explain ALL alleged alien abduction cases as kidnappings by covert military personnel ("hundreds...[even thausends] of women who are victims of unwanted military surveillance...," Victoria Alexander, March 1999). Nowhere in my article did I state such numbers. To the contrary I stated that "only some" abductees report such events. Furthermore, if Mrs. Alexander believes that in a budget as huge as as SDI (several tens of billions of US dollars), there is no chance to transfer funds to black projects, then I urge her to study the literature about the funding of the Manhattan-Project or she should read Tim Wiener's book "Blank Check - The Pentagonīs Black Budget", (New York, Warner Books, 1991). All these projects have been accomplished within the US governments budgetary structure, and no one knew! That the US government budget structure "can not be fooled" has been visibly proven by the "Iran Contra" affair ! Contrary to her believe, the core of the investigated MILAB cases have first been reviewed by professional medical therapists before they were included in my work. Many of the normal psychological problems Mrs. Alexander has quoted in no less than 4 long pages were already considered by several professional therapists. Although such psychological conditions can and do happen, they in no way can be used to explain ALL MILAB or alleged alien abduction cases, as shown in our forthcoming book "MILABS!" (http://www.illuminetpress.com Illuminetpress, spring 1999). Again Mrs. Alexander reads things into my article which simply are not there: When I mentioned "triangulation of radio devices" by "three satellites or specially equipped helicopters" I in no way mentioned GPS! Triangulation techniques exist as long as radio waves are being emitted thats almost a century for ground based devices and several decades for satellite systems. Satellite triangulation is not necessarily confined to the GPS era. YES, Dr. Lammer believes covert military operations can track and tag abductees without a hitch - IF they carry an implanted bio-chip or electrodes. That such technology exists for decades now can be checked in the public literature. For instance the German government developed a brain implant for remote monitoring of physiological parameters in people for heart attack prevention or other medical purposes (Bochdansky, Alexander: Ein Chip im Kopf schlaegt Alarm, Modern Times, Austrian TV2, January 9, 1998). This bio-telemetric brain implant has the size of a rice grain (0.8 x 2 mm). Of course for monitoring alleged alien abductees (eg. location via triangulation) one would not have to use satellites - three cars or fixed installations (such as Handy-phone antenna masts) would be perfectly adequate. Such systems are already operational for keeping track of criminals on probation. I recommend that Mrs. Alexander asks her husband John B. Alexander about the work of Mrs. Debra Spencer (Wide Area Continous Offender Monitoring, SPIE Proceedings, Vol. 2938, 166 - 177, 1996), who should be familiar to him from the SPIE conference 1996, where he was one of the Chairmans. While we are writing about "Offender Monitoring" it must be wishful thinking by Mrs. Alexander that such people like Colonel Khaddafi, General Noriega and Saddam Hussein carry implanted devices. Otherwise what reason had she to compare them with alleged alien abductees. A note on her comment about the lack of continous overhead reconnaissance from space platforms during "Operation Desert Storm": this has to do with the laws of orbital mechanics and not with possible other applications for such satellites. If Mrs. Alexander has applied her version of " basic logic" to my article and concluded my theory "flawed at the most fundamental level", hers must have been "FUZZY" logic ! Mrs. Alexander shows a sad lack of knowledge of "state-of-the-art" technologies, if she considers triangulation by satellite impossible before 1989. However, despite her shortcomings in the field of physics and aerospace science, it is amazing that she combines such diverse talents as expert psychological knowledge, equivalent to the level of professional medical doctors with decades of experience as well as detailed insight into the science of tracking transmitter devices. Coming back to the title of Mrs. Alexanderīs reply "What Would Freud say?": Dr. Freud was an innovative man ready and willing to navigate and explore uncharted waters against strong opposition. I think Freud would say: "I donīt know, but - lets find out !!!" ************************************************************** MINDCONTROL-L Mind Control and Psyops Mailing List To unsubscribe or subscribe: send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text: "unsubscribe MINDCONTROL-L" or "subscribe MINDCONTROL-L". Post to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wes Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, list moderator
