Re: [CTRL] Historian: IBM not used in Auschwitz
-Caveat Lector- You nit picking again June? Better take a good course in semantics? IBM paid its employees very well at one time; but then things are touch all over..as a great dark cloud descends over and on this country. My home is my castle..all paid for, and nobody comes aboard here without my permission. I got a piece of the rock.. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Historian: IBM not used in Auschwitz
-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > IBM once was a great country; I'm sure that IBM would like to consider itself as a sovereign country rather than the corporate entity that it is... But it is only 'great' for the handful of ruling elite at its helm; ask any of the rank-and-file employees, who coined the joke that IBM stands for "I've Been Moved"... I worked at IBM for a few months for a private contractor; it was one of the few sites I worked at where I was glad I was not an employee of the client...rarely have I seen and experienced such a dehumanizing environment, where one was expected to gladly forego any vestiges of individuality and instead sublimate one's personality to that of the corporation... Which is why I'm not surprised at the claims that IBM's founder was quite fond of the Nazis, since the corporate atmosphere at IBM to this day is extremely fascist... > So who is sabotaging IBm... Itself June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Historian: IBM not used in Auschwitz
-Caveat Lector- Cui Bono Bill? Domestic sabotage and political espionage - who sold Clinton to the public like a pound of ground round? Who blackmails and boycotts and from where did they learn these tactics? IBM once was a great country; and when the day comes more people will be out of work, steel plants in Ohio once proud out begging, 100,000 jobs to be lost at Chryslelr - Huffy Bikes down in Mexico.. And while people were being subjected to little Elian the UN Secretary was meeting with Fidel Castro to figure out how to dump the refuse from their shores to USAin Africa, any immigrants must have AIDS.and Cuba, we will get more of their drug runners and criminals to feedwhile the Star of David flew ouside Elians house? Cui Bono - Clinton was sold to the Americans like a pound of ground round in collusion with sale of Blair and Barak. Now illegal drug money channeled through foundations coming out of closet with the homos...reparations now for negros like Jews - same tactics? What about reparations for the citizens of Amrica who are being victimized by these criminals. Remember US Steel, Westinghouse, Western Electric, North Amrican, Chrysler going busto.Zenith TV, and have you bought any Philllips Magnavox stuff lately that was any good? Airplanes with maybe bad bolts, etc., with Made in Japan stamped on rear? Worse yet, made in China? So who is sabotaging IBm.well who was sabotaging Bill Gates? Dirty money - see Mark Rich and his floosie wife who looks like something out of Soho..billions of dollars from what? Drugs - see foundations and start with mob in Columbus Ohio which is major laundering areaand see Columbus today, buried and held hostage...even Lex Wexner came to my town which is just a little town. Anybody check out these big planes from Mexico or why drugs buried in sand at Key West or check out the old Odessa Route which is a known drug route - or theft of diamonds and sales of diamonds now from Israel who will now run the diamond cartel - maybe not if it is true, Holy War is Forever. So who is sabotaging our giants? Rockefellers two were murdered within 6 months, Nelson and John and we then had Kissinger step into their shoes - the servant? What was it Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were servants of Godwell believe me, there was the day God was an Englishman in America.today what do we have but - well see Sodomists vs. the Boy Scouts and see all that America was being destroyed. And in those days when America thrived, there were giants - who is murdering our giants? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Historian: IBM not used in Auschwitz
http://www.salon.com/books/wire/2001/02/12/ibm_nazis/index.html Historian: IBM not used in Auschwitz - - - - - - - - - - - - By Monika Scislowska Feb. 12, 2001 | WARSAW, Poland (AP) -- Poland's leading Holocaust historian said Monday that there was no evidence to support the claim that the Nazis used technology made by the U.S. computer giant IBM at Auschwitz, although he does believe it was used in other concentration camps. Franciszek Piper, the Auschwitz museum's historian, said that contrary to a claim made by U.S. researcher Edwin Black in a book entitled "IBM and the Holocaust," punch-card machines made by IBM were not used in the camp. "Black maintains that the punch-machines were used in Auschwitz, but we have no sources to confirm that," Piper said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press from his home in the city of Oswiecim, in southern Poland, where Nazis built the Auschwitz camp during World War II. According to Piper, documents from survivors of Mauthausen, the Nazis' most notorious concentration camp in Austria, show the machines were used there to organize information on inmates' personal data. Such files can be seen at the Auschwitz museum exhibit, he said. The Nazis killed some 1.5 million people, mostly Jews, in the Auschwitz-Birkineau camps between 1940-1945. The release of the book Monday coincided with a lawsuit accusing IBM of providing technology to the Nazis -- knowing it could facilitate persecution and genocide. IBM's German subsidiary during the Nazi era, Deutsche Hollerith Maschinen GmbH, was taken over by the Nazis. A machine made by the company -- believed to have been used in the German census in 1933, the year the Nazis took power -- is on display at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington. The company hasn't yet seen either the book or the lawsuit and isn't commenting in detail, Ian Colley, IBM's European spokesman in Paris, said Monday.
