Re: [CTRL] How Uncle SamTurned into a Big Brother

1999-09-05 Thread Das GOAT

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Actually, I think by now he's become a Big Mother--

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[CTRL] How Uncle SamTurned into a Big Brother

1999-09-04 Thread earthman

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FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA

All 137 earlier Special Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins on NATO's
Kosovo War and "Peace" can also be seen at our Web site:
www.truthinmedia.org, along with numerous photos and other memorable
images.  The Kosovo TiM GW Bulletins are now divided into two sections:
NATO's War (106 issues) and NATO's "Peace" (33 issues).

Issue S99-138, "Peace" 33
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August 24, 1999

3. A Sobering Message to Truthmongers Around the World: How "Uncle Sam"
Turned into a "Big Brother"

PHOENIX, Aug. 24 - And now, here's an epilogue to the story behind the
above "Venik" story.  And it has nothing to do with Serbia.  It has to do
with how Uncle Sam's criminal reincarnation, the Clinton administration,
tried to shut down the dissemination of God's truth during NATO's war on
Serbia, and turned itself into a Big Brother reincarnate.

At least two U.S. Internet providers not only had tried to, but actually
did, shut down the "Venik" Web sites.  At the U.S. government urging, the
"Venik" insists.  Because he told the truth about NATO's aggression on
Serbia.  Here are copies of some of the correspondence which TiM exchanged
with "Venik" during the course of trying to verify his existence and
credibility. You can judge for yourself whom to believe - the "Venik," or
the "Big Brother:"

VENIK: "I am reading your TiM newsletter about the situation in Yugoslavia
with great interest every time. During NATO's aggression against
Yugoslavia, the (TiM) newsletter provided a lot of particularly interesting
information that would otherwise have escaped my attention.

I did my best during NATO's aggression to maintain an accurate record of
NATO combat losses and military tactics. My Web site (Venik's Aviation
Page) had on the average about 3,000 visitors every day from Yugoslavia
alone.  Which, I guess is not bad for a personal home page.

Several months ago I received a strange letter from the webmaster of
Cybercities - my former Web space provider - who explained that he was
forced by the government to close my page. I moved my site to XOOM, where it
existed until several days ago when I received a similar letter for
XOOM's webmaster.

Knowing that your newsletter targets the audience which may be interested
in the kind of information presented on my Web site, I decided to contact
you with a request to include the new address (below) of my page in your
newsletter."

Asked by TiM who ordered his ISPs to shut down his Web site, "Venik"
replied:

"Apparently, it was the US government. It appears that I probably deleted
the e-mail from XOOM's webmaster, but I still have the one I got from the
Cybercities, which is a Web space provider based in Flagstaff, Arizona.
Their Web site is www.cybercities.com

Recently they re-designed their web page and removed any info about their
location. But on their old web site the address was: Cybercities.com; 2532
Borth 4th St. #301; Flagstaff, AZ, 86004

Here is the e-mail I received from the Webmaster of Cybercities on May 26,
1999. Subject line: Anti-American Pages; sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

"Dear Madam - Sir,

We recently got some governmental complaints about your web page on our
server concerning the topic: Aircraft used and lost in Yugoslavia. You
know, that our policy is, and always will be, to obtain  the free speech on
the internet.

But, as you might know, our server is located in the U.S. , so we cannot
provide any topics, that collide with federal laws of the U.S.. And
according to one of these laws, no company inside the U.S. is allowed to
supply any hostile country, this concerns ALSO (due to the email we got)
YOUR web page.

So we please you to rearrange your web site the way it does not show the
numbers and locations where the Yugoslavian side assume NATO planes got
down (If it is true or not I do not care) or we have to shut down your
web page.

Sorry ?about that [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

To be honest, at first I assumed that this was somebody's practical joke,
so I checked the source code of the e-mail and, to my surprise, it did come
from Cybercities. On the very same day Cybercities disabled my account and
erased all of my files. That was it. Somebody must have really spooked
them. Cybercities did not reply to any of my e-mails regarding the
termination of my Web site."
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TiM Ed.: Welcome to the Big Brother's (not Uncle Sam's) United States of
America.

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