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The social conditions you
describe happen to some extent in most countries. Aspects would naturally be
intensified in areas of near non-abated violence and conflict.
As mostly armchair
prognosticators, its not going to make any friggin difference what we say as to
what goes on their. Israel has probably the most powerful military and
technological capability in the region, I think that if Israel, and its
leadership,were as evil as so often portrayed by such articles as
the former, they would have applied the military resources to frizzle the
Mid-East. They haven't; and to me, this is an indicator of the Israeli's
intellectual and moral resolve and character, to find peace through other
meansthan total annihilation, which is what some of her critics would like
nothing better for her.
From where I sit the mad Arabs and the Islamists
are the losers.
And I don't mean in terms of Israel, but in terms
of their own moral actions. Strapping bombs to your kids and having them blow up
others kids, is a completely beyond-dickhead mentality; and that dickhead
mentality isinstilled into them from youth.
One cannot even begin to imagine what life would
be like in such a society. How can the likes of some Palestinians, who have no
respect for their own lives, and vicariously through no respect of their
children's lives; possibly respect their neighbours lives much less the social
welfare of their neighbour. And if they are notmaddeningly bombing the
Israeli's;they are busy killing one another.
The mullahs and clerics must bare vast blame for
the violence and the darkness of their societies, and should be exhumed from
their society until open, free secular education is allowed to prosper, not
barbarous clerical brain-washing and hate.
If Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon is
culpable of delays in the peace process than at least equalculpability, if
not vastly more,ought be laid at the feet of Yasser Arafat. But of course,
let's not forget that there also external foreign powers involved here, and one
must ask, even if sounding cynical, is Middle-East peace the genuine agenda of
these foreign interests? Or is it a peace based majorly on foreign interests
that is sought?
What would a united Democratic Middle-East,
sitting atop earths mega-oil reserves, a wealth of human history, religion,
archaeology, culture and so on, look like in terms of the world stage,as a
united Democratic front?
As a consequence of their bitter experiences over
the centuries, Jews have stood at the forefront of human rights and civil rights
issues across the world. Sure Israel has and will make mistakes, as has America
and every otherDemocratic society.But to have the Jews and
Israel demonised in it's formative stages, whilst encompassed by terrorists who
want nothing more than Israel's complete destruction, is a myopia that rivals Dr
Goebbels.
Dave.
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From:
Prudy L
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Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:22
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Icy gust cools
Israel's relations with EU - from an ICY QUEEN "(Li...
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In a message dated 11/5/2003 2:51:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hence, one would imagine that any
State that has received a fair amount of favourable US attention and is
consistently in the headlines as a potent US ally, could be anything but
disliked in parts of Europe.
Furthermore,there is the fact
that Europe is the historic homeland of the Jewish-killing Nazis,the
Inquisition, Roman Catholic and Russian Orthodox anti-Semitism; its hardly
surprising that Israel would ever come up trumps in any Euro-pop
contest.
I'm glad you think of Israel as an ally of the United States, but that
just doesn't wash with me. There isn't even any reason why Israel should
be. Israel is her own country and has obligations to no one. That
Israel is a country which behaves abominably to its native peoples
whofrequentlyhappen to be Moslems and occasionally Christian is a
sad fact. It has parallels with the old South in that even Israel's Jews
who are sympathetic to Moslems can be persecuted. To lay the blame
for the behavior of Israel's Jews on the fact that they are Jewsis a
mistake. Sharon may be a man of peace in George Bush's eyes, but he is
not. Does he do what he does because of his faith or even faith in
God? Of course not. He is a master politician "in charge."
He has power and wants more. Israel has land and wants more. And
for some reason, Israel (with or without Sharon) does not want to share
governance with anyone who is not a Jew. And now it seems that
anti-Semitism is rearing its ugly head. So easy for others to blame
someone's faith for actions that have no connection with that faith.
European nations suffering economic problems look at a world in which
