Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- From: "Johannes Schmidt III" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mechanical. Maybe something in the car, a nut or bolt or something, snapped and whacked you under the ear? Was it that sort of car. Not sure what you mean by 'that sort of car'...it was a 1976 Plymouth Volare Sport Coupe. Sweet little car that I kept until 1989... I was parked in a parking space in the garage, just about to get out of the car. If it had been anything hard that had hit my ear -- whether the object was metallic, mineral, plastic, glass, whatever, it would have hit the glass of my car after hitting my ear...yet nothing did. Insect: Could it have been a bee sting, insect bite or sting? You stated the windows were closed, but could something have gotten in through a gap or the airconditioning? Possibly. Believe me, that is one of the many possibilities/excuses I considered over the years, but for the same reason above that I dismiss the hard object from within the car, I dismiss the insect theory, since my windows were up and I was in a parked car. There was no insect buzzing around inside. Also, the sensation was of some hard object hitting my ear (the outer ear actually bent forward), not of something sitting on my ear and stinging me. Physical/Psychological: Could it have been some sort of twitch or muscle spasm you hadn't experienced before? If it was, it was something I'd never experienced before, and never have experienced since. It was a 'twitch' that caused my outer ear to be pushed forward and flattened against my ear canal opening, and also magically produced a bruise only on the back of the ear and not on the front... There might be some sort of neurological explanation, perhaps it was due to stress or something? You said it was bruised, but did you have a mirror with you to check? Yes, I did. I first checked it in the car mirror, and a compact I carried with me, and could see 'something', but not much. I then checked it in a larger mirror in the ladies' room at work, about 15 minutes later. If you bruise easily, I don't. It takes a lot for me to bruise, but once I am the bruise stays a long time...this bruise didn't completely fade for almost a month, although after 2 weeks or so it had gone from ugly black/blue/purple to blackish/yellow... any subsequent bruise might have been caused by you rubbing the spot when the pain occured. I never rubbed it, only first touched it because I really thought I'd been shot and expected to see blood, and when I didn't I then bent the ear forward and tried to see the back of it in my car mirrors and in my compact...I could see that there was some sort of mark, but like I said couldn't really see a lot (the lighting wasn't the best in the parking garage), and when I got into work I immediately checked it in the ladies room, and it was already very 'colorful'... Besides, it hurt like the dickens immediately when it happened, and for the rest of the day (and was hard to sleep on that side because of the pain). No 'touching' or 'rubbing' on my part caused that. Just a few ideas to try and convince you you're sane. Oh, I'm reasonably sure I'm reasonably sane...but I still have no idea what it was that occurred that day, and still am searching for a theory that would fit. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- June wrote: Oh, I'm reasonably sure I'm reasonably sane...but I still have no idea what it was that occurred that day, and still am searching for a theory that would fit. Forgive me if someone else has suggested the following - I'm pretty behind on my emails, but find your experience intriguing. When I was a teenager I was at a party (at my own house) and a friend across the room called my name. I turned my head to look and suddenly 'heard' a loud 'snap' and felt intense pain shoot up from the back of my neck to the top of my skull. It was *incredibly* painful. My neck and skull were sore for days after. The doctor I saw told me that we have tendons in our neck, and that one of mine had 'snapped', probably simply due to the simple movement of my head to look at my friend. So I accepted that explanation. Then years later I read about something called 'mini-strokes' that can sometimes occur in the (sorry forget the medical term) large artery that leads up the neck to the brain. I though back to my 'snapped' tendon and wondered if instead of that I had experienced a mini-stroke. In any event, it has always puzzled me, and the location of it - the 'snapping' was close to the side of the neck near the back of the ear area that you describe. However, I don't remember any bruising, although I have very thick and long hair - there easily could have been some and would have been more surprised than not if their hadn't been - that was how powerful the force of the snapping was. Indeed, as you say, it would be easy to think of it as being shot. Not sure if this is of any help to you - but if you ever do find out what caused yours, let me know! Kelly A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- From: "Kelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I was a teenager I was at a party (at my own house) and a friend across the room called my name. I turned my head to look and suddenly 'heard' a loud 'snap' and felt intense pain shoot up from the back of my neck to the top of my skull. What I experienced did not entail pain in the neck or on the top of my head. It felt like a small, hard object hitting the back of my ear at an extremely high rate of speed, with such force as to bend the cartilage and lobe forward over the opening to the ear canal. The pain was sharp but localized to the back of the ear. If it WAS an external object that hit my ear, what was strange was that it managed to hit my ear but nothing else. Even stranger was the fact that only the back of my ear was bruised, and extremely bruised at that...we're talking mostly black, with a little patch of ugly purple. And yet the front of my ear was fine. It's this last fact that causes most theories I and others have considered over the years to be rejected...anything that would have caused that extensive amount of bruising should have caused the bruising to also appear on the front of the ear, at least on the lobe... It was *incredibly* painful. My neck and skull were sore for days after. Again, this description is nothing like what I experienced. As I mentioned in another post, put the tip of your index finger on the back of your earlobe. Then move it up the back of your ear about half an inch, and then push your ear forward so that the cartilage and lobe cover your outer ear canal. Now imagine this being done quickly and sharply by what felt to be a small, hard object, and you'll get an idea of what I experienced. In any event, it has always puzzled me, and the location of it - the 'snapping' was close to the side of the neck near the back of the ear area that you describe. In my experience, it wasn't a case of being 'near the back of the ear area', but of BEING the back of the ear, period. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- From: "NSA" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I meant a vigorous sexual encounter. Unfortunately, no. ;-) And I've never heard of any sort of vigorous physical activity resulting in a burst blood vessel behind the ear, especially a burst vessel that didn't show anything in the front of the ear... ??? What do YOU think it was? Other than STRANGE, I really have no idea what cause it. I've ruled out being shot, since no skin was broken, neither was there any sign of a bullet, and it would have been nigh on impossible to have shot me based on my location in that parking garage (being on the 2nd level and the walls having extremely narrow openings). But it really FELT as if something hit me externally, especially since I felt the cartilage portion of the ear move forward, albeit quickly and sharply. I suppose that if it WAS something like an 'implant', if it COULD 'explode', it perhaps could have cause the sensation of something hitting my ear...but such a premise then opens up a whole can of worms as to when, why, and by whom such a conjectural implant would have been done. Quite frankly, I put 'implant' low down on the list of possibilities...but I don't rule out anything entirely. I just thought anyone who has any knowledge of such things could perhaps offer an opinion... Well I think you've possibly answered your own conundrum June? Reagan was already infected with Powell's ideology, which he had dialogued and argued with Reagan on many an occasion. Therefore, the seed planted, the sales sizzle delivered by Powell over a long period, Reagan could have easily been crunched into submission within a relatively brief 20 - 30 minutes. But obviously the sales pitch had been delivered over a much longer period by Powell. Perhaps, but unlikely. Everyone who knew Reagan was extremely surprised by his 180-degree turn politically at that time, and no one, not even his wife, could explain it. Surely Powell wasn't the only person who'd argued politics with Reagan over the years, and the fact that week after week he couldn't sway Reagan doesn't lend credence to the claim that one night he was able to lock him in his den -- and again, why the need to separate Reagan from their wives, and lock the door to boot -- and magically change Reagan's mind in 20 minutes. Something else had to be at work that night, something both Jane Wyman and June Allyson commented on later in their lives. By the way, where was this Powell character educated? I have no idea. The only thing I know about him is that he was the lead tenor in Busby Berkley musicals in the 1930s, then surprised everyone with his dramatic performances in the late 1940s...but due to his extreme rightwing politics, he found getting movie roles more and more difficult, and so made what was considered a career-killing move to television in the late 1950s, but ended up being very successful and able to thumb his nose at his nay-sayers... But his politics never changed, and if anything got more rightwing... Further, according to other reports, Reagan was extremely superstitious, and consulted mediums and astrologers for his personal and politico guidance, and was quite serious about such matters. It may perhaps be more precise to say that Nancy Reagan seems to be the really superstitious one, and that her husband went along with it. I've heard of astrologers being used, not sure about the mediums. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- Found this item June that may be of interest - re pesticides and death of Dick Powell and a movie they made...he died in 1963 but his last appearance in Columbus, he had "hives" and thought swiss cheese caused an allergic reaction. Look at cast of characters re this movie and what happened to them? THE ALARMING LEGACY OF PESTICIDES What Everyone Should Know THE POLITICS OF PESTICIDES Corporations spend millions on campaign contributions to block tougher pesticide regulations. Their investment has paid off: *In 1958, congress passed the Delaney Clause which prohibits all food additives shown to cause cancer. But congress also allowed the continued use of all pesticides approved before 1958. *In 1970, the EPA assumed responsibility for setting safe pesticide limits. but congress again permitted the continued use of all pesticides approved before 1970. *In 1978, more accurate testing procedures were adopted. But all pesticides approved prior to 1978 were again exempted. Several older sprays grandfathered into use without adequate testing, persist for years and would not be allowed on the market today. The National Academy of Sciences estimates that 90% of the cancer risk from pesticides stems from those approved before 1978. In contrast to other industrialized nations, breast cancer deaths in Israel (which had been rising for 25 years) dropped sharply between 1976-1986. During this same period, known risk factors actually worsened: Israeli alcohol, fat and total calorie consumption increased; fiber, fruit and vegetable intake declined; and childbearing was delayed. The apparent reason for Israel's declining breast cancer was their program to ban organochlorine pesticides (DDT and lindane) in 1978. the pesticide level in Israeli breast milk and cow's milk has fallen since the ban. Scientists believe organochlorines are "complete" carcinogens, which both initiate and promote cancer growth. U.S. breast cancers increased sharply in recent years, despite a drop in consumption of fat and alcohol. U.S. pesticide exposure worsened during the past decade. Pesticides contribute to breast cancer risk independent of fat intake. Countries with toxic waste sites have elevated breast cancer rates. Our government has failed to curtail dangerous pesticides, not because we lack information, but because we lack political resolve. The Delaney Clause requires the EPA to deny approval of new pesticides, that are less carcinogenic than older pesticides currently in use. Congress inflicted this intolerable situation on the public and only Congress can undo the damage. PROPOSED PESTICIDE REFORM - Immediately revoke the registration of all pre-1978 pesticides not tested under current standards. (Manufacturers could re-apply for registration.) - Ban the production and export of any pesticide not allowed on American food. - Regulate and phase out estrogenic chemicals. - Require growers to disclose which pesticides they use. - Require a country-of-origin labeling law. - Mandate civil and criminal penalties for violators. There are those who still cling tenaciously to tenets of the past. the chemical industry with its powerful lobbies, legislative cohorts, and indentured academic consultants, has relentlessly pursued profits with little regard for biological consequences. While lives are being lost, members of congress accept campaign contributions from pesticide companies. The government's pesticide regulatory system is fundamentally compromised by special interests, an approach not compatible with public health. A sustainable society cannot place corporate profits and campaign war chests over cancer risks to the public at large. A sustainable society tempers technology with accountability and gives people a voice. In 1954, John Wayne, Susan Hayward, Agnes Moorehead and producer Dick Powell filmed, "The conqueror," on the sand dunes outside St. George, Utah about 150 miles downwind from atomic bomb testing. for three months, the filmmakers breathed dust laced with radioactive fallout. Of the 220 people in the cast and crew, 91 had contracted cancer by late 1980, and half the cancer victims had died of the disease. These included John Wayne, Susan Hayward, Agnes Moorehead and Dick Powell. The U.S. government apologized to the citizens of Utah for the lives lost in the name of national security . . . 40 years after the fact. We cannot wait for the same apology with pesticides. the stakes have grown too large in this macabre game of poker. The seeds are sown and nothing short of concerted national action can halt cancer from becoming our nation's leading cause of death. Every time history repeats itself, the stakes go up. "Tomorrow is the most important thing in life . . . It hopes we've learned something from yesterday." - John Wayne (1907 - 1979) Lee Hitchcox, D.C. is a researcher, author and chiropractor. The material presented here may be found in his recently released book, Long Life Now: Strategies for
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:50:17 -0400 Ynr Chyldz Wyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- From: "NSA" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps an exploding implant? ;-) Prolly a burst blood vessel maybe too much "thinking" June ... Perhaps. But that 'burst blood vessel' moved my earlobe flat against the FRONT of my ear...IOW, my earlobe, and a good amount of cartilage above it, was pressed FORWARD over my ear opening, which is why I actually thought I'd been shot with a BB gun... Ever experience getting your ears 'boxed'? That was how my ear felt, as if something had hit it at high speed, pushing the lobe and cartilage forward at high speed... Maybe it was the pressure in your ear caused it to rupture? This usually only happens in aeroplanes, but if some localised pressure difference happened, you might have partly ruptured your eardrum (which can be very painful). Did you experience any lasting hearing damage? A handy martial arts technique is to slap both your attacker's ears at once, hard, which if done properly can rupture the eardrums and certainly puts him off balance for a while! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- From: "Johannes Schmidt III" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe it was the pressure in your ear caused it to rupture? This usually only happens in aeroplanes, but if some localised pressure difference happened, you might have partly ruptured your eardrum (which can be very painful). Did you experience any lasting hearing damage? Nope, it wasn't IN my ear. It was BEHIND my ear, where the cartilage meets the skull. The whole BACK of my ear was terribly bruised, including a portion of skin over my skull where the ear cartilage meets the skull (about the size of a 25-cent piece), but the front of my ear, including the outer portion that enters the skull, was fine. It was definitely just on the surface, not deep down. My ear didn't even 'ring', let alone have any effect on my hearing. Put the tip of your index finger on the back of your earlobe. Now move your fingertip up about half an inch and press your ear forward. Now imagine a 'something' that is made of a hard substance performing the same action at an extremely high rate of speed, and you'll get an idea of what I experienced (plus an idea of where the worst of the bruising was located)... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- You know, now that I think about it I can think of a few possible explanations. Now you are the only one who was there, so these may seem ridiculous to you, but there has to be some explanation: Mechanical. Maybe something in the car, a nut or bolt or something, snapped and whacked you under the ear? Was it that sort of car. Insect: Could it have been a bee sting, insect bite or sting? You stated the windows were closed, but could something have gotten in through a gap or the airconditioning? Physical/Psychological: Could it have been some sort of twitch or muscle spasm you hadn't experienced before? There might be some sort of neurological explanation, perhaps it was due to stress or something? You said it was bruised, but did you have a mirror with you to check? If you bruise easily, any subsequent bruise might have been caused by you rubbing the spot when the pain occured. Just a few ideas to try and convince you you're sane. On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 21:07:24 -0400 Ynr Chyldz Wyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- From: "Johannes Schmidt III" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe it was the pressure in your ear caused it to rupture? This usually only happens in aeroplanes, but if some localised pressure difference happened, you might have partly ruptured your eardrum (which can be very painful). Did you experience any lasting hearing damage? Nope, it wasn't IN my ear. It was BEHIND my ear, where the cartilage meets the skull. The whole BACK of my ear was terribly bruised, including a portion of skin over my skull where the ear cartilage meets the skull (about the size of a 25-cent piece), but the front of my ear, including the outer portion that enters the skull, was fine. It was definitely just on the surface, not deep down. My ear didn't even 'ring', let alone have any effect on my hearing. Put the tip of your index finger on the back of your earlobe. Now move your fingertip up about half an inch and press your ear forward. Now imagine a 'something' that is made of a hard substance performing the same action at an extremely high rate of speed, and you'll get an idea of what I experienced (plus an idea of where the worst of the bruising was located)... A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- From: "NSA" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps an exploding implant? ;-) Prolly a burst blood vessel maybe too much "thinking" June ... Perhaps. But that 'burst blood vessel' moved my earlobe flat against the FRONT of my ear...IOW, my earlobe, and a good amount of cartilage above it, was pressed FORWARD over my ear opening, which is why I actually thought I'd been shot with a BB gun... Ever experience getting your ears 'boxed'? That was how my ear felt, as if something had hit it at high speed, pushing the lobe and cartilage forward at high speed... perhaps some extra serious ... ahmmm ... ahmmm "activities" ... the night before ()! ... which quite prolly would have been associated with an "EXPLODING implant!" (GGG)!!! I'm not sure what you're implying, but the only activity the night before was coming home from work, making supper, watching some TV, and then going to bed because I had work the next day. I am not all that familiar with US politics, but I can hardly imagine Reagan being a "Leftie," except for the purposes of SPYING on his fellows. He was, back in the 30s and 40s, which is why he was elected president of the Actors Union. Even Jane Wyman, to whom he was married at the time, expressed surprise...and not a little disgust, since she's been fairly left-leaning all her life...at his sudden about-face from strident leftist to goosestepping rightist. When Reagan was elected president, much was made of this 180-degree turn, and much speculation was done as to what caused it. The article where June Allyson revealed this tete-a-tete between Reagan and Powell was not specifically about Reagan, it was something revealed in the course of the interview about her life... She and Powell apparantly had dinner at least once a week with the Reagans back in those days, and Allyson revealed that often Reagan and Powell would get into heated political arguments, Reagan sticking to his leftist philosophy while Powell would argue his rightist opinions. So it hardly seems a case of Powell being a persuasive arguer that changed Reagan. That only occured, Allyson recounted, one specific night when after dinner her husband made it a point to take Reagan alone, behind locked doors. According to her, they were only in the room (I believe Powell's home office) 20 to 30 minutes, and when they came out, Reagan was suddenly a convert to the rightwing political spectrum, and never deviated from it from that day... Allyson presented it as an 'odd' tidbit, and I got the feeling that perhaps she was hinting that perhaps the reporter should delve into this further, but of course the reporter didn't and the article went on to other subjects... So again, I wonder what it was that Powell said or did in those 20 or so minutes, behind locked doors (and why lock the door, when the only other people around were his and Reagan's wife?), that resulted in such a dramatic conversion, when months of after-dinner arguments had failed to do so? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- From: "Mark McHugh" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I doubt the monitoring station could have been a problem. Radio intercept is a passive endeavor, you can't "suck" the radiowaves out of the air. Transmitting, maybe interference there, but not receiving. Be that as it may, the fact remains that my fellow physical therapy recipients reported the same phenomenon, namely being able to HEAR radio (and sometimes TV) broadcasts in their heads immediately after their accidents, and for some weeks thereafter (apparantly it also faded with time as it did with me). What I heard was definitely in a Middle Eastern language (perhaps more than one), and once I 'picked up' the BBC (replete with ads for upcoming shows) and once I picked up Radio Moscow (identified as such by the announcer). And the fact remains that the strongest 'signal' was smack next to where the Air National Guard has their listening outpost. Perhaps they not only were listening to worldwide broadcasts, but then also rebroadcasting them to somewhere else? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] William Powell used to play the Thin Man but it was the singer Dick Powell who married June Allyson. I stand corrected. The person I am referring to is Dick Powell, not William. Dick Powell never seemed politically incliined He was EXTREMELY politically inclined, so much so that he was considered possibly a Nazi-sympathizer -- but he always worked behind the scenes, politically. That was one reason he couldn't get good movie roles in the 1950s, even though he had turned in such excellent performances in various 'film noires' of the late 1940s...so that is why he went into television, and was successful in developing his own television production company... It was good timing, too, because his move into TV coincided with the McCarthy witch hunts, and TV more than welcomed someone with the 'impeccable' political credentials of Dick Powell. Will see if I can find out about Dick Powell - but never heard of him in politics Yes, one never heard of him IN politics, but apparantly he was quite active behind the scenes...had quite a few 'influential friends', according to a biography of him on some show not long ago...which makes his ability to suddenly change Reagan's political views, after months of after-dinner political arguments, all the more intriguing... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Something happened to you that day - I do not like music in automobiles either, or tapes - if your automobile window was open that day, you could have been hit by something - maybe BB gun... The windows were up, and no glass was broken. I was actually parked in a commercial parking garage (thank goodness, because if it had happened while I was driving I would probably have had an accident), and just about to get out. The garage had cement block walls with very small openings, I was on the second level parked next to an outer wall, and there was no building directly across the street. Believe me, I investigated, because I really thought at first I'd been shot at...the only way for someone to have shot me would have been to have been on the same level as I was (in other words, on a second story), and be directly across the street...but as I said, there was no building there, just a parking lot for a Holiday Inn. The hotel building itself was a half-block down the street. The only other building more than one story in the area was the local federal building, a half-block up the street. But no one in either building would have had a direct site to me, because of the narrow openings in the cement blocks of the parking garage wall... Also, I didn't hear anything hitting any of the other cars in the packed garage, nor was there any ricochet off of either vehicles or cement walls... And my skin wasn't broken...extremely bruised, but only on the back of the ear and a portion of skull by the ear, not on the front of the ear... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- --- Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- I believe somehow these celluar phones you pick up stuff, I found getting rid of my cell phone to be extremely liberating. Not only the $30 a month, but it is nice NOT to be reachable sometimes. New Jersey is finally going to pass a law making it illegal to drive and talk on the cell phone at the same time. Hooray! They are worse than drunk drivers. I had a "lady" almost broadside me while she was talking on a cell phone. When I honked, she stopped, flipped me the bird, and went off on her merry way, never missing a word of her conversation. But even better than a law would be a provision that if you are eating, drinking, smoking, or talking on the phone while you are driving, and you get into an accident because of same, your insurance WILL NOT PAY for any damage you cause, to property or people, leaving YOU personally liable for your carelessness. If it's that bloody important, pull over. Besides, if you don't eat, drink, or smoke in the car, your car will be much cleaner, making it easier for you to find the implants "they" put in your car. And I think cigarettes are a NWO elite tool for depopulating the planet, but that's a whole 'nuther thread. :-D Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- Maybe that day Powell got with Reagan a TV deal was cut? Powell had own TV show and Reagan had Death Valley Days.. This experiment with Jonestown, though, Reagan was in that to his turtle neck... Reagan maybe is a chameleon like some of the others? High degree Mason - and Irishman whom they called "Dutch"? Now I always wondered about that one - but Jean Dixon, the psuedo political religious propagandist declared Reagan, was a man of destiny. So Reagan got to be President and the CFR stomped on him nearly taking him out.he was warned. The many masks of a demigod? Or is that demicrat? When Reagan was shot he was NEVER the same; and now Alzheimers - his memory was never the same - especially when it came to the drugs and Contras thing. Then I thought Jonestown with the Rabbi Washington of the Black House of Israel next door.his followers looked drug addicted - little kids with greata big eyes and frozen faces.later that guy was picked up in USA for murder, old warrant. What if Jonestown was a set up half way house for more drug running? This grand experiment with people, Nazi doctors on board, cyanide in kool aid - white nights, and the worksall timed - and Mark Lane CIA lawyer the one who always gets away, at Jonestown ..the storiy of the implant behind their ears and I will try to find if there was mention which earthink left, maybe? You know how a dog turns its head left first when thinking - at least mine does.left side of brain maybe easier to control? Regardless, my friend said there were slits behind the ears of many of the victimsJonestown was a front and experiment also for thresholds of pain.wonder too about Waco - was this too a drug scenario in disguise - drugs and guns. So Reagan could have been in this drug stuff deep - he knew all about Jonestown and maybe he knew how to play the game. Noted too the Mormon Church had his family tree back to Brian Boru.now this simply means he has a family tree authenticated and someone in his family kept careful family records - our family records were always kept by the women but only 10 percent of people ever kept records. Why would Reagan be a man of destiny? He was in a sense, but made no great mark - and he was nearly killed at high twelve, coming from the Temple of Labor like a Brother Hiram in the biggest set up since JFK. So who is or was, Ronald Reaganmaybe Dick Powell got him into TV? Dick Powell had lots of underworld connections no doubt because when he made his first movies the mob thrived..for the writers write of things they know and what they have seen first hand...but guess that's show biz/ Am really curious about Dick Powell, for I remember in Columbus watching that show and he died shortly thereafter - but he thought he was sick because of allergy to cheese he had eaten.. Wonder how masonry or rosicrucianism fits here, for it surely does...there are those, right wingers, who detested the John Birch Society for they say they were front for organized crime.a man with Attorney General Office once told me this, but I often agreed with the JGS more than my own democrat party, at the time. For I can no longer be a democrat - CFR took them over .there is no democrat party - just puppets but now and then one flies over the cuckoos nest and a real one gets elected. But then hasn't thisi CFR and Cronkite type figures given the American people a choice - fascism or communism? No in betweens where majority sit and if they voted could swing any election but what do you get? As they say, Meet the new boss - same as the old boss? Murder Inc. Meets Murder Inc. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe that day Powell got with Reagan a TV deal was cut? Powell had own TV show and Reagan had Death Valley Days.. This was before Death Valley Days, when Powell was only just starting out in TV and hadn't made his mark there yet...so it's unlikely that after months of after-dinner political arguments, Powell suddenly hit the key to Reagan's brain by locking him in his den and saying "Hey, buddy...I'm thinking of switching to this new-fangled thing called television, and if you stop being the liberal SOB you've been all your life and join us rightwing Nazi sympathizers, maybe I can swing you a TV deal, too...hell, you wouldn't even have to act if you don't want to, just show up and introduce the shows every week...I'm thinking of doing the same thing with stories about private dicks and other dramas, so why don't you think about doing a western anthology series?" Nope. I doubt THAT was what changed Reagan's life-long political stance in 20 minutes time... This experiment with Jonestown, though, Reagan was in that to his turtle neck... Yep, because Jones gained his power and gathered his followers under Reagan's watch as guv of CA...took advantage of Reagan's draconian measures regarding the state's mental health system... Now I always wondered about that one - but Jean Dixon, the psuedo political religious propagandist declared Reagan, was a man of destiny. And perhaps it was Powell's cronies and handlers who made this decision? What if Jonestown was a set up half way house for more drug running? That was the least of what was going on. This grand experiment with people, Nazi doctors on board, cyanide in kool aid The cyanide in Kool Aid seems to have been a cover story, and not really what happened, based on evidence that has been coming to light over the past couple of years... The very first reports out of Jonestown at the time had a relatively small number of dead being declared to have been found...as the days went on, the number grew, and the excuse for the first early numbers was that there were bodies under bodies which had been missed in the initial count... But look at all the photos taken of the death scene...no 'bodies under bodies'...and according to those who managed to escape, there were death squads roaming the countryside for days, slaughtering those who'd escaped into the woods rather than drink the poisoned Kool Aid... And if you listen to some of the tapes of "Jim Jones" exhorting his followers to drink the Kool Aid, you CAN here shooting and screams in the background... - white nights, and the worksall timed - and Mark Lane CIA lawyer the one who always gets away, at Jonestown ... And intimately tied up with the JFK assassination, to boot... ...the storiy of the implant behind their ears and I will try to find if there was mention which earthink left, maybe? You know how a dog turns its head left first when thinking - at least mine does.left side of brain maybe easier to control? FWIW, my 'ear thing' happened on the left side... Why would Reagan be a man of destiny? Who knows, but more importantly who DECIDED this? Surely not Jeanne Dixon on her own. And perhaps this 'destiny' was communicated to Powell, who one night after one of their weekly dinners, took Ronnie into the den and locked the door (what was it that he didn't even want Jane and June to hear?), and presented this 'destiny' to his buddy...a 'destiny' that would only come about if Reagan made a 180-degree about-face politically... But if this was what happened, what ELSE did Powell have to reveal? I mean, surely it wouldn't have been enough to say "Hey buddy...change your politics and I'll guarantee you'll be elected president of the United States within 30 years!" Reagan would have fallen on the floor laughing...Powell would have had to present 'something' to show Reagan that such a claim was definitely in the realm of possibility, something that had Re agan convinced in less than 30 minutes. Dick Powell had lots of underworld connections no doubt because when he made his first movies the mob thrived... In Dick Powell's first movies, he was nothing but a pretty boy lead with a good singing voice in a Busby Berkely musical, usually paired with Ruby Keeler... He didn't get to break out of that mold for a good 15 years... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote: -Caveat Lector- From: "Mark McHugh" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I doubt the monitoring station could have been a problem. Radio intercept is a passive endeavor, you can't "suck" the radiowaves out of the air. Transmitting, maybe interference there, but not receiving. Be that as it may, the fact remains that my fellow physical therapy recipients reported the same phenomenon, namely being able to HEAR radio (and sometimes TV) broadcasts in their heads immediately after their accidents, and for some weeks thereafter (apparantly it also faded with time as it did with me). I don't doubt that you were receiving, just that it was generated by what you believe was a monitoring station. What I heard was definitely in a Middle Eastern language (perhaps more than one), and once I 'picked up' the BBC (replete with ads for upcoming shows) and once I picked up Radio Moscow (identified as such by the announcer). And the fact remains that the strongest 'signal' was smack next to where the Air National Guard has their listening outpost. Perhaps they not only were listening to worldwide broadcasts, but then also rebroadcasting them to somewhere else? June Guardies and Reservists usually don't do foreign radio intercept, unless they are on temp duty at a major strategic listening post. Also, intercept isn't rebroadcast, it's recorded and stored for reference. The interceptors pick out the info in realtime and send it on to the analysts. Perhaps some strange radio energies were being manipulated there, indirectly facilitating your cranial reception. Weird shit happens while fooling around with various spectral energies. I remember one of our radio jammers frying wildlife that came too close to the rig. I wonder if the GLQ-3B is still in use? -- ´´ Mark McHugh First to know, last to glow! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- From: "Mark McHugh" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guardies and Reservists usually don't do foreign radio intercept, unless they are on temp duty at a major strategic listening post. Remember, this was during the height of the Gulf War... Perhaps some strange radio energies were being manipulated there, indirectly facilitating your cranial reception. Weird shit happens while fooling around with various spectral energies. FWIW, this area of Connecticut is the same area Betty Andreasson lives in, and where she has reported seeing both UFOs and mysterious black helicopters... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes -Caveat Lector- From: "NSA" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps an exploding implant? ;-) Prolly a burst blood vessel maybe too much "thinking" June ... Perhaps. But that 'burst blood vessel' moved my earlobe flat against the FRONT of my ear...IOW, my earlobe, and a good amount of cartilage above it, was pressed FORWARD over my ear opening, which is why I actually thought I'd been shot with a BB gun... Ever experience getting your ears 'boxed'? That was how my ear felt, as if something had hit it at high speed, pushing the lobe and cartilage forward at high speed... perhaps some extra serious ... ahmmm ... ahmmm "activities" ... the night before ()! ... which quite prolly would have been associated with an "EXPLODING implant!" (GGG)!!! I'm not sure what you're implying, but the only activity the night before was coming home from work, making supper, watching some TV, and then going to bed because I had work the next day. I meant a vigorous sexual encounter. But now that i have some more info - I'll ask my medico buddies, altho, i suppose you've already done that? .. ??? What do YOU think it was? I am not all that familiar with US politics, but I can hardly imagine Reagan being a "Leftie," except for the purposes of SPYING on his fellows. He was, back in the 30s and 40s, which is why he was elected president of the Actors Union. Even Jane Wyman, to whom he was married at the time, expressed surprise...and not a little disgust, since she's been fairly left-leaning all her life...at his sudden about-face from strident leftist to goosestepping rightist. When Reagan was elected president, much was made of this 180-degree turn, and much speculation was done as to what caused it. The article where June Allyson revealed this tete-a-tete between Reagan and Powell was not specifically about Reagan, it was something revealed in the course of the interview about her life... She and Powell apparantly had dinner at least once a week with the Reagans back in those days, and Allyson revealed that often Reagan and Powell would get into heated political arguments, Reagan sticking to his leftist philosophy while Powell would argue his rightist opinions. So it hardly seems a case of Powell being a persuasive arguer that changed Reagan. That only occured, Allyson recounted, one specific night when after dinner her husband made it a point to take Reagan alone, behind locked doors. According to her, they were only in the room (I believe Powell's home office) 20 to 30 minutes, and when they came out, Reagan was suddenly a convert to the rightwing political spectrum, and never deviated from it from that day... Allyson presented it as an 'odd' tidbit, and I got the feeling that perhaps she was hinting that perhaps the reporter should delve into this further, but of course the reporter didn't and the article went on to other subjects... So again, I wonder what it was that Powell said or did in those 20 or so minutes, behind locked doors (and why lock the door, when the only other people around were his and Reagan's wife?), that resulted in such a dramatic conversion, when months of after-dinner arguments had failed to do so? June Well I think you've possibly answered your own conundrum June? Reagan was already infected with Powell's ideology, which he had dialogued and argued with Reagan on many an occasion. Therefore, the seed planted, the sales sizzle delivered by Powell over a long period, Reagan could have easily been crunched into submission within a relatively brief 20 - 30 minutes. But obviously the sales pitch had been delivered over a much longer period by Powell. By the way, where was this Powell character educated? Reagan has never appeared to be of a substantive intellect, nor a decision maker in terms of ideological movement, and leadership. Perhaps, this was a media distortion of him or deliberately manufactured, otoh, the media got him elected did they not? To add to the notion of Reagan's imbecility and non-spontaneity, I recall that the former Prime Minister of Australia recounts an encounter between Reagan and Gorbachov for some heavy negotiations, Reagan is said to have bumbled into the room and in the process stumbled and dropped a bunch of cue cards on the floor which were basically his "script," for the meet! Further, according to other reports, Reagan was extremely superstitious, and consulted mediums and astrologers for his personal and politico guidance, and was quite serious about such matters. Such a superstitious mindset, imo, is apt to be open to psychological suggestions which could perhaps portray him is some "messianic" or "fated" role. Certainly, the Vatican and its agents played on this aspect of
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- Well Bill - you have been in luck - lightning took ou my web modem, so I went back to my old one. This is a very interesting item sent in by Jim Marrs..I want to add something and the information I knew to be correct nearly 30 years ago, but no official documentation right now. Lee Harvey Oswald has a mastoic operation behind his ear from surgery when child; when the autopsy was done on Lee Harvey Oswald, a Bethesda as I recall, there is no mention of this mastoid scar. Last night on TV it showed a man with such a scar, it was very visible and was years and years old (medical program). So an important scar such as this, how could doctors miss this one.then I thought of Jonestown - my friend with MI6 told me way back in 1979 that many of these people had implants behind their ears..now this was over 20 years ago and from some of this Mkultra stuff, etc., I wonder..people have been known to pick up radio communications in teeth which had been filled - Lucille Ball for instance, was picking up radio communications..might add she had been brought before House of Unamerican Activities but it was her grandfathre who was a communist - but Dezi Arnez had mob connections and little Sirhan worked for a racetrack or something he owned at one time..Ball, I think, was involved in something...who knows when it comes to movie stars and movies, along with Television - which now serves as the secret link between literature and the police as William Hazlett once said of a newspaper owner? So all is goodbut when Oswald said when asked what was in his package that day, he said "curtain rods"so, it was curtans for Kennedy s the rod of iron not only struck through him, but his brother as well.Oswald used this bible code - or the assassins behind him did, and so did little Sirhan and his mentors. Its KGB all the way which comes in many colors and disguises and today you find them in cahoots with the Clinton Administratin and NWO terrorists. Anyway, now my house has been hit by lighting three times in 5 years..go a new television out of it, lost a big pine tree with great ball of fire, and then now they got my Web TV - but I had one in reserve...sometimes I think those Weather Modification terrorists have my (house) number. Anyway, my house was full of little lightning bolts and I saw the one hit my web..I thought missed me again, you lousy.but they got my web (just kidding). A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- --- Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucille Ball for instance, was picking up radio communications..might add she had been brought before House of Unamerican Activities but it was her grandfathre who was a communist - but Dezi Arnez had mob connections Desi said of Lucy at the time: "The only red thing about Lucy is her hair, and even that is not real!" __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So an important scar such as this, how could doctors miss this one.then I thought of Jonestown - my friend with MI6 told me way back in 1979 that many of these people had implants behind their ears... For once (and surprisingly), I'm taking a post of Aleisha's seriously... ;-) Aleisha, do you know whether these supposed implants were put behind the left or the right ear, or didn't it matter? The reason I ask is that I had a very strange thing happen with my ear back in 1978. One day I experienced a severe, intense, sharp pain behind my ear, next to my skull. I actually thought I'd been shot, but there had been no sound and no shattered glass (I was in the car), and I wasn't bleeding. When I got home I looked in the mirror, and at first there didn't seem to be anything wrong. But the back of my ear was still hurting, and when I pushed my hair aside and bent my earlobe foward, I saw the whole back of my ear, and a portion of the skull right by the ear, was severely bruised. But the front of my ear displayed no bruising, no injury whatsoever... I had that bruise weeks...and to this day can think of no rational explanation for what could have caused that injury, that wouldn't have also shown on the front of the ear... Perhaps an exploding implant? ;-) ...now this was over 20 years ago and from some of this Mkultra stuff, etc., I wonder..people have been known to pick up radio communications in teeth which had been filled It doesn't happen so much any more, because they've changed the materials used for fillings. No radio transmitter in my teeth, but back in Feb. 1991 I was run down while crossing the street...no broken bones, but many months of therapy for a slipped disk... This was during the height of the Gulf War, and about a week after the accident it dawned on me I'd stopped listening to the radio or my tapes in the car during my commutes to and from work...I had an hour or more drive one way, and I'd always listened to music to pass the time... But without thinking about it, immediately after the accident I'd stopped...and at first I didn't understand why, and then I realized that for a good portion of my commute, I was somehow picking up in my head what sounded like shortwave radio broadcasts, most in what sounded like Middle Eastern languages, occasionally the BBC and Radio Moscow... No disembodied voices claiming to be God or anything, the effect was of someone 'surfing' the shortwave spectrum, and somehow I was picking it up without needing any electronic equipment... One day at the end of hydrotherapy, me and my fellow therapy recipients started talking about the various things we'd experienced after our various accidents, things that none of us were willing to discuss with our doctors...and turns out almost everyone else mentioned having had at least on one occasion after their accident having experienced this 'psychic radio' phenomenon... And it dawned on me that I only experienced this in the car, not at home and not at work...or rather, that the 'sound' was very faded at work. But it would get stronger and stronger when I was driving home, getting its strongest at what was generally the half-way point of my commute, then getting softer and softer and finally becoming silent a few miles from my home. The process was reversed when I drove to work, again getting the strongest at the half-way point of my commute, and gradually fading (but not getting completely silent, but drowned out in a soft "white noise") when I reached worked (at that time I worked in downtown Hartford, in a building housing a local TV station, so I suspect all the electronics in my building counteracted all the other sounds)... I later found out that the area where I was hearing this 'shortwave scanning' the loudest is where the Air National Guard have a base that includes state-of-the-art radio equipment, and that indeed the base was used during the Gulf War to monitor radio transmissions from the Mideast and from our allied nations (probably also monitoring what non-allied nations like Russia were reporting)... Anyway, as my therapy progressed and I got better, this 'psychic radio' faded and finally disappeared. Now if I want to listen to the radio, shortwave or regular, I have to turn on and tune in a regular radio just like everyone else... ;-) - Lucille Ball for instance, was picking up radio communications..might add she had been brought before House of Unamerican Activities but it was her grandfathre who was a communist She was a card-carrying one, too...she admitted it, explaining that she'd signed up in the 1930s in the height of the Depression, just like almost everyone else in Hollywood had at that time, too...it was considered 'the thing' to do, before all of Stalin's atrocities came to light... time..Ball, I think, was involved in something...who knows when it
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes I had that bruise weeks...and to this day can think of no rational explanation for what could have caused that injury, that wouldn't have also shown on the front of the ear... Perhaps an exploding implant? ;-) Prolly a burst blood vessel maybe too much "thinking" June ... or perhaps some extra serious ... ahmmm ... ahmmm "activities" ... the night before ()! ... which quite prolly would have been associated with an "EXPLODING implant!" (GGG)!!! Okay, here's a serious question, Aleisha. I can't give you any info on Lucille Ball...but do you know anything regarding William Powell? I've asked this question periodically on this, and other lists, over the years, because of something I read at the time Reagan became president. June Allyson was quoted in an article -- quite as an aside -- saying that Powell (her husband at the time), was responsible for turning Reagan from a far-left actor's union president to the far-right reactionary we all knew...and apparantly accomplished this deed in the span of 20 to 30 minutes, behind closed doors. So I always wondered what it was that Powell said (or perhaps, what he WAS), that was able to sway Reagan that extremely, in only a matter of minutes... People can be persuaded in seconds, let alone longer periods of time, and persuaded into most extraordinary activities or life-course changes that they had not planned, or perhaps had long held internally, and then had such triggered by some event. Although it is possible, there is no essential need to ascribe to such changes to some cloak and dagger motive imo. I am not all that familiar with US politics, but I can hardly imagine Reagan being a "Leftie," except for the purposes of SPYING on his fellows. The whole "Communist" anti-God schema, does appear to have played into the hands of the Vatican US religio-economic-politico Alliance. In hindsight, one could almost be excused for envisaging the hysteria generated by the "Cold War," and the rapid "fall" of Soviet Communism, as almost stage-managed. Anyway, now my house has been hit by lighting three times in 5 years..go a new television out of it, lost a big pine tree with great ball of fire, and then now they got my Web TV - but I had one in reserve...sometimes I think those Weather Modification terrorists have my (house) number. Invest in a good surge protector...not only for the electrical lines, but for the phone line into your WebTV unit, too... June I would add to that fine arsenal - anti inter-Galactic body-snatcher pedants, cosmic-ray inhibitor crystals, a cupboard and fridge well stocked with Bundaberg Rum and Coke! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote: I later found out that the area where I was hearing this 'shortwave scanning' the loudest is where the Air National Guard have a base that includes state-of-the-art radio equipment, and that indeed the base was used during the Gulf War to monitor radio transmissions from the Mideast and from our allied nations (probably also monitoring what non-allied nations like Russia were reporting)... I doubt the monitoring station could have been a problem. Radio intercept is a passive endeavor, you can't "suck" the radiowaves out of the air. Transmitting, maybe interference there, but not receiving. -- ´´ Mark McHugh A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Thanks - I find that this is what I have to do, for the Web people said to unplug my phone line during storm - line to web. So this I will do. Now it was Dick Powell who was married to June Allyson..I remember when he was in Columbus in 1960 about - appeared on a TV show, and said he had eaten swiss cheese and it had given him "hives"..he apologized for it. Shortly thereafter, he died of cancer and I always wondered about the hives and if it was related to his death a symptom/ Never heard the Reagan story - only that Reagan had said the communists had taken over Hollywood - and this was at a time when he did not get too many good movie roles. Also he played in a movie that had been called the Voice of the Turtle and the name of same, was changed to something else - remember they played the song Danny Boy throughout the movie and Eleanor Parker, whose grandparents lived across the street from us when we were very small - played the role - (her grandfather hated her).she seldom visited. Anyway - that movie Voice of othe Turtle name straight out of Song of Solomon...and also line from poem written by Wheeler - For I Am The Voice of the Turtle and Reagan did you ntoce, had neck of turtle? William Powell used to play the Thin Man but it was the singer Dick Powell who married June Allyson. Dick Powell never seemed politically incliined and went on to play good detective parts, etc., and Reagan ended up with a money named Bonzo? And he really played in some bombs. Will see if I can find out about Dick Powell - but never heard of him in politics - frankly, he was always smiling and a nice type and did not have the mean streak Reagan had when young.once at Republican Convention when Rockefeller go up to speak he was in audience and camera caught him screaming and frothing at the mouth, for he sure hated Nelson... Reagan had personal ax to grind somewhere.he had two faces - sweet and kind, and boy that other one like masks of comedy and tragedy So much for Voice of Turtle ... Thanks again for tip on Web..little bitty lightning bolts were floating about - and boy when the big one hit - a tiny little lightning bolt took out my modem on the web box. Such is life... A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- I believe somehow these celluar phones you pick up stuff, June.and during this Gulf War on this one radio I had in my office, and I was surrounded with communication equipment, etc., I picked up these signals from this what Col Thomas Beardon called "woodpecker" signals from Russian Satellites..] Once when MUIR was up there, the American Astronauts were awakened to the Woody W oodpecker Song - and that MIR had connections I am sure to this weather modification program. So some pepole are more sensitive to this stuff for I was told by this one group that I had become "attuned to the cosmos" and to this day am not sure what they meantbut I used to pick up stuff from space program all the time - for your brain acts like a computer and everything our brain and senses do, we have made replicas - like TV, radio for seeing and hearing, telephone for communication and now wireless stuff - this is how brain works and psychic stuff happens - some receive and strong can send also and this stuff can be dangerous - especially if drugs are used to "enhance" psychic ability - this woman who was heir to Sheraton Hotels, husband used drugs down in Florida (she was Robin Moore's sister) to "enhance" her psychic ability and she later disappeared back in 1980 or 81lots of experimentation and MkUltra I never heard of until I got on web in 1968. Interesting and deadly stuff and I had enough of that stuff pulled on me through these "psychic" terrorists (friendly thank heavens)..who make receivers of you. Now behind your ear ais a puzzle.implants are now used when people need medical treatament so they do not have to search for veins and the thought of that is sickening..is daily procedure now that many doctors do not approve. But Reagan knew all about Jonestown and was involved in this "experiment".lots of things about him we do not know yet - he did have two faces. Sounds like youi were hit by something behind your ear - as for Oswald I thought about that mastoid scar and wondered about implant..radio transmitters, etc...for he is still an enigma. The guy was ot that smart yet claimed to possess omnipotent powers when young..god like powers. Secret Experiments - I am still puzzling over two words I found written in this old bible "Key Experiment" handwritten in pencil on side of page of Song of Solomon, probably most cryptic book in bible - under the rose, so to put - hypnotic drugs, lips of those who are asleep made to speak - hypnosis.I am Black but Comely (Black is Beautiful) and of course, the Order of the Lily and the Rose - Rosicrucian Suff..shadows fleeing at daybreakit all means something. Something happened to you that day - I do not like music in automobiles either, or tapes - if your automobile window was open that day, you could have been hit by something - maybe BB gun.once in the night somebody shot through our board room windows with a gun, and we had three bullet holes - my office was next to Board Room..whoever did it, had to be on lowr hill road and shot up or hiding in r avine (had 90 acres there)...but if yo9u got hit with that one, you would have really known it. So Russian Satellites up there - and some people are sensitive to some of this stuff.now and then I get CB radios and police cars on my telephone.also cable tv and al houses wired for this sound - you have to wonder. Do know thistelephath and ESP exists and the government upper echelon know it but to them it is dangerous and they do not want people getting into it much..this is why psychics are put near places like Coca Beach, and in Huston for they pick up stuff and do not know sometimes what they are picking up but a good trianed one, does. So much for Tower of Babel, advertising, and just plain brainwashing and psychic networkthe real thing you will not know when you are around them until they start writing the books for money. Remote viewing is real. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[CTRL] Jim Marrs-What a difference a day (or two) makes
-Caveat Lector- What a difference a day (or two) makes By Jim Marrs Date: 10/05/2000 URL: http://www.alienzoo.com/features/m/200010050001.cfm Wouldnât any criminal be delighted if he could have complete, secret, and unsupervised control over all the evidence in his case for two full days? Wouldnât the verdict in his criminal trial be a swift "not guilty" if he had the opportunity to "doctor" the evidence? This is precisely the situation which occurred in the murder of President John F. Kennedy beginning the very night of the assassination. Although the proof of the disappearance and reappearance of the JFK evidence has been lying right in front of researchers since the fateful weekend, no one seems to have perceived the significance of the matter. However, at least one person with access to official federal government documents apparently recognized this significance and took steps to conceal it from the American public. This issue began the evening of November 22, 1963, when Dallas Police Chief Jesse Curry began receiving calls from Washington. As he related to Warren Commission member Allen Dulles, "We kept getting calls from the FBI. They wanted this [assassination] evidence up in Washington, in the [FBI] laboratory, and there was some discussionâ¦" Curry made it clear that "we felt this was a murder that had been committed in the county, city and county [sic] of Dallas, and that we had prior, I mean we had jurisdiction over this. The FBI actually had no jurisdiction over it, the Secret Service actually had no jurisdiction over it⦠"[Homicide Capt. Will] Fritz told me, he says, `Well, I need the evidence here, I need to get some people to try to identify the gun, to try to identify this pistol and these things, and if it is in Washington, how can I do it?â" But someone in Washington was most persistent. "We got several calls insisting we send this (evidence), and nobody would tell me exactly who it was that was insisting, âjust say I got a call from Washington, and they wanted this evidence up there,â insinuated it was someone in high authority that was requesting this, and we finally agreed as a matter of trying to cooperate with them, actually." Consistent rumors in Dallas have long been that President Lyndon B. Johnsonâs assistant Cliff Carter made the calls. On the basis of this pressure from Washington and against their better judgment, the Dallas police reluctantly released all of the assassination evidence to the FBI. "â¦we finally, the night, about midnight of Friday night, we agreed to let the FBI have all [emphasis added] the evidence and they said they would bring it to their laboratory and they would have an agent stand by and when they were finished with it to return it to us," stated Curry. However, much of the evidence was never returned to Dallas. Curry told the Warren Commission on April 22, 1964, "Subsequently they photographed these things in Washington and sent us copies, some 400, I think 400 copies of different items. So far as I know, we have never received any of that evidence back. It is still in Washington, I guess. Perhaps the Commission has it." "Yes; the Commission is still working with it," responded Commission General Counsel J. Lee Rankin. What the Dallas authorities did receive was "very poor reproduction of some of these items on microfilm", according to Fritz. There is no doubt that the FBI received the assassination evidence late on the night of the crime. A document signed by J. Edgar Hoover himself stating that "No latent [finger]prints of value were developed on Oswaldâs revolver, the cartridge cases, the unfired cartridge, the clip in the rifle or the inner parts of the rifle," was dated November 23, 1963. Yet the journeys of this vital evidence apparently was unofficial and was never made clear to the public. The first official word on the transfer of assassination evidence came on Tuesday, Nov. 26, when both Dallas newspapers carried stories announcing that the evidence was to be turned over to federal authorities. So now the FBI was officially on the case and officially in charge of the evidence. But what could have happened during the two days while the evidence was unofficially in their hands. Fabrication, substitution, elimination, alteration - anything could have been done to the evidence, with no effective "chain" of responsibility. Unlike 1963, today the FBI has come under suspicion of poor management of evidence at best and downright falsification of evidence at worst. Under Hooverâs iron control, it was have been an easy matter for certain ranking Bureau officials to do with the evidence whatever they pleased. And evidence exists for just such speculation. For example, FBI document Dallas 89-43 dated Nov. 29, 1963, and first publicly released in 1968, stated brown wrapping paper in the Texas School Book Depository "was examined by the FBI Laboratory and found to have the same observable characteristics as the
