Re: [CTRL] Lawyer Alleges Federal Plot Unleashed AIDS on Blacksj2
-Caveat Lector- Nurev Ind Research wrote: > > This shyster says he found a document which will prove that the Gov > developed aids. Maybe yes, and maybe no. But he extrapolates this into > a plot by the Pentagon to wipe out Blacks. > > Now which is the more likely scenario? It's not a "plot by the Pentagon"; certain elements of the military establishment are merely the tools of some very unscrupulous miscreants and scoundrels with lots of power and money and a curious agenda. As for the "Blacks", he was referring mainly to Africa - which he believes is a planned depopulation (Global 2000-type thingy) to loot and usurp the abundant resources from the ever-growing, so-called "worthless eaters" there by 2066. Rense stated that he believes that such depopulation will happen much earlier if the present rate of 'AIDS' (or whatever the fuck it is) continues. > That what he claims is actually possible to do. According the gubbnmint docs he uncovered it seems VERY possible. Whether they are genuine or not, I don't know. Rense seemed quite taken by them, though - and he doesn't strike me as a fool (on most issues). > Or... > This shyster race hustler is out to invent a race based > case to make a buck. I'd say making a buck probably has something to do with it, but why does it have to be either-or? And isn't he entitled to a little compensation for his 8-9 years of intense research; after all, time is money? > C'mon guys. There are real conspiracies. But one can't just believe any > bullshit that comes down the pike. True, but you seemed to have made up your mind before you heard his side of the story. I was skeptical of the engineered viral theory too (although for about 8 or so years I've believed 'AIDS' as presented by Gallo, et al., is pure BUNK). Now, after hearing him interviewed on Rense, I'm at least giving his theory the benefit of the doubt. > > http://playlist.broadcast.com/makeram.asp?id=867234 > > > > "We have stood by like timid sheep while the wolf killed, > > first the weak, then the strays, then those on the outer > > edges of the flock, until at last the entire flock belonged > > to the wolf. We did not care about the weak or about the > > strays. they were not a part of the flock. We did not care > > about those on the outer edges. They had chosen to be there. > > But as the wolf worked its way towards the center of the > > flock we discovered that we were now on the outer edges. Now > > we must look the wolf squarely in the eye. That we did not > > do so when the first of us was ripped and torn and eaten was > > the first wrong. It was our wrong." - Gerry Spence > > I see you've got a thing for shysters eh?-- J2 Sometimes; I especially have a perpetual stiffy for that "moldering, dead" 19th Century lawyer/legal theorist Lysander Spooner. Frederic Bastiat wasn't too bad, either. IMO, not ALL lawyers are shysters, although a VAST majority of them seem to be. "Poor people have access to the courts in the same sense that the Christians had access to the lions..." -- Justice (JUST-us) Earl Johnson Jr. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Lawyer Alleges Federal Plot Unleashed AIDS on Blacksj2
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > Nurev Ind Research wrote: > > > > It's called science fiction fantasy bullshit. > > Perhaps; I heard Jeff Rense give him a lengthy interview the > other day, and found him pretty convincing. Then again, I'm > just a golwis, conspiracy kook, so what the fuck do I know > (besides "fiction fantasy bullshit" and whatnot)? I don't know what you know. But your brain is obviously not defective. This shyster says he found a document which will prove that the Gov developed aids. Maybe yes, and maybe no. But he extrapolates this into a plot by the Pentagon to wipe out Blacks. Now which is the more likely scenario? That what he claims is actually possible to do. Or... This shyster race hustler is out to invent a race based case to make a buck. If targeting is possible, why haven't gay groups joined the suit? Why haven't India, and Thailand, and other countries being devastated by the epidemic made an issue out of it? Don't they know a conspiracy when they see one? C'mon guys. There are real conspiracies. But one can't just believe any bullshit that comes down the pike. Joshua2 > > http://playlist.broadcast.com/makeram.asp?id=867234 > > "We have stood by like timid sheep while the wolf killed, > first the weak, then the strays, then those on the outer > edges of the flock, until at last the entire flock belonged > to the wolf. We did not care about the weak or about the > strays. they were not a part of the flock. We did not care > about those on the outer edges. They had chosen to be there. > But as the wolf worked its way towards the center of the > flock we discovered that we were now on the outer edges. Now > we must look the wolf squarely in the eye. That we did not > do so when the first of us was ripped and torn and eaten was > the first wrong. It was our wrong." - Gerry Spence I see you've got a thing for shysters eh?-- J2 http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Lawyer Alleges Federal Plot Unleashed AIDS on Blacksj2
-Caveat Lector- >> It's called genetic engineering. > >It's called science fiction fantasy bullshit. No one can do what you are >alleging. Sorry, I didn't realise you no-doubt believe that the world is flat, 6,000 years old and the computer you're using works via a little man who runs around doing things. You shouldn't carry on about things which you are obviously so ignorant of. Genetic engineering is very advanced, cloning etc. is a reality (and many contend it has been used for several decades at least). >>As unpolitically correct as it is to say so, there are certain distinctive >>DNA features for Black >people, gays, left-handed people etc. They can use >>that to make the virus far more agressive >towards such people. > >How do you know this? Do you just make stuff up? What you think you are >describing, can't be done yet. There is a way to target certain groups, >but not through " genetic engeneering." No, I don't 'just make stuff up' as you so eloquently put it. Perhaps you should try and pass a high school level biology class and learn a bit about it, rather than making these hysterical allegations. And how else do you propose to target specific groups without using their genes? Ask them on the census? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Lawyer Alleges Federal Plot Unleashed AIDS on Blacksj2
-Caveat Lector- Nurev Ind Research wrote: > > It's called science fiction fantasy bullshit. Perhaps; I heard Jeff Rense give him a lengthy interview the other day, and found him pretty convincing. Then again, I'm just a golwis, conspiracy kook, so what the fuck do I know (besides "fiction fantasy bullshit" and whatnot)? http://playlist.broadcast.com/makeram.asp?id=867234 "We have stood by like timid sheep while the wolf killed, first the weak, then the strays, then those on the outer edges of the flock, until at last the entire flock belonged to the wolf. We did not care about the weak or about the strays. they were not a part of the flock. We did not care about those on the outer edges. They had chosen to be there. But as the wolf worked its way towards the center of the flock we discovered that we were now on the outer edges. Now we must look the wolf squarely in the eye. That we did not do so when the first of us was ripped and torn and eaten was the first wrong. It was our wrong." - Gerry Spence http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Lawyer Alleges Federal Plot Unleashed AIDS on Blacksj2
-Caveat Lector- Johannes Schmidt IV wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > >> > >> In a program then propelled by the Nixon Administration, Graves alleges, the > >> Pentagon subsequently spread the virus in Africa and the United States to > >> cull the black population of the world. > > > >This is stupid Black conspiracy theory. How the hell does the virus know who > >is Black? How does the virus know who is not Black? This is STUPID, STUPID, > >STUPID! Does the Pentagon want to wipe out the high percentage of Blacks in it's > >own armed forces? STUPID! > > It's called genetic engineering. It's called science fiction fantasy bullshit. No one can do what you are alleging. >As unpolitically correct as it is to say so, there are certain distinctive >DNA features for Black >people, gays, left-handed people etc. They can use >that to make the virus far more agressive >towards such people. How do you know this? Do you just make stuff up? What you think you are describing, can't be done yet. There is a way to target certain groups, but not through " genetic engeneering." >And yes, some >of the racists probably would like to wipe out the blacks in >the AF (the >officers at least, the grunts are expendable anyhow). > > >> > >> Smoking gun: To bolster his argument, Graves said he has located a key piece > >> of evidence that represents the smoking gun to his allegations. It's a > >> government flow chart from 1971 that provides a road map to research > >> programs, experiments and scientific papers that he believes were directly > >> involved in the development of AIDS. > > > >Maybe. > > > >> > >> A number of reports on those 15 programs still exist, he said, and they > >> detail every step and contract relating to the development of the human > >> immune-deficiency virus (HIV), which has been linked to AIDS. > > > >Maybe. > > > >> > >> Once produced, the virus was then released in Africa through smallpox > >> vaccines and in New York City during a controlled Hepatitis B experimental > >> vaccine, he said. > >> > >> "The issue is not what I believe, because this is the truth and these are > >> the facts," he explains. "I have the program that made the AIDS virus." > > > >Maybe. But it's a huge leap to claim that they targeted anyone group > >specifically. Once the disease is out there, there is no way to control it. > >This does not make for a good weapon. > > > >This moron would do better claiming that the Pentagon developed sickle cell > >anemia. That would be a more ethnospecific weapon. > > Try reading up on the terrible health effects black children suffer from > being forced to drink milk at government run schools. We're not talking about milk. We're talking about aids. > >> Well known: Officials with the National Cancer Institute, the National > >> Institutes of Health and other agencies said they were unable to respond to > >> Graves' allegations, though he is well known to many within the agencies and > >> a cause of frustration because of his relentless digging for records. > >> > >> "There's no one here who remembers the Special Virus Program," offered one > >> spokesman. > > > >Meaningless cover gibberish. > > Yet it isn't a denial. Joshua2 http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
