Re: [CTRL] Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien on Mind Control 3/3
Thank you for responding. I bought the book and read it a few years ago. It was shocking, yes, but also not entirely believable. I'd already done a fair amount of reading on satanic ritual abuse and mind control when I read this book. Some of the information was similar to what I'd learned and much was new. I couldn't bring myself to trust Mark's account or his motivation. That was the main problem I had with the book. I still don't understand why publishing the book himself was safer than going through a publishing house. It's the mechanics of the publishing process as it relates to the CIA that I do not understand. Samantha In a message dated 6/2/00 11:33:00 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Samantha, I just finished the published book, Trance Formation of America, and if you get a chance I would recommend you do the same. This "David and Goliath" story will answer those questions, without hesitation. I would say I comprehend the seriousness of the situation, only through the exposure of these ultimately anti-humanity versed individuals, and in the reality of how heavily it "strong arms" all the perception possibilities, to the point of it actually placing EVERYONE at risk, if not in total control. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien on Mind Control 3/3
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: It was shocking, yes, but also not entirely believable. The late Jim Keith concurred. See: Mind Control, World Control by Jim Keith, ISBN 0-932813-45-3, pps. 293-299 I've never looked either Mark or Cathy in the eye, so I'm loath to even guess. But I'm pretty skeptical, not so much of the concept but of them. Where's the forensic evidence? Now that Monica Lewinsky has taught the entire world how to collect a DNA sample, we can finally begin to hope that some future Monarch victim (if indeed there are such people) will have the presence of mind to swab the gob, so to speak, and put this matter to rest, once and for all. Which reminds me. Please send me any clear, distinct photos any of you might have of any high muck-a-mucks, politicos or otherwise, dressed in lingerie, in bed with a couple of twelve year olds, smoking crack. Actually, anything along those lines will do. You know what I like. I'll keep your name out of it. Thanks in advance. nessie c/o Bound Together Books 1369 Haight St. San Francisco CA 94117 USA A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien on Mind Control 3/3
Samantha, I just finished the published book, Trance Formation of America, and if you get a chance I would recommend you do the same. This "David and Goliath" story will answer those questions, without hesitation. I would say I comprehend the seriousness of the situation, only through the exposure of these ultimately anti-humanity versed individuals, and in the reality of how heavily it "strong arms" all the perception possibilities, to the point of it actually placing EVERYONE at risk, if not in total control. The "name dropping" will cause your head to spin, and the degree of torture implemented to instill the "control factor" on these slaves is close to being beyond belief... until you realize how ultimately successful the "methods of madness" are. (Do research "compartmentalized memory" and the "Oz" programming) With the "gun control issue" being on the front burner of the "media" and both Presidential Platforms (if you still believe there are two parties), is it really surprising that there is suddenly a rash of violent gun "crimes"? This being perpurtrated on the same "dummied down" populace that has been taught to be "politically correct" in accepting anything presented in the Socialist Agenda as being for the "good of America", from Education 2000 to same sex marriages. Realize, this is not "new", there have been entire generations who have labored on this same Agenda, knowing full well they would not experience fruition in their lifetime, yet not questioning nor relenting in their pursuit of the Spiritual, mental and financial bancruptcy of the human being. Now armed with "technology" and having only the desire to "Master" the sheeple (including reducing the number of available humans, depending on their willingness to be enslaved), through control of all factors of life as we believe it to exist. RIGHT DOWN TO THE DEFINITIONS OF RIGHT AND WRONG! Follow or "rebel", the choice is not yours unless you comprehend the seriousness of what is described in Trance Formation... and actively combat the process of being led and lied to. Do beware, if in fact you have been programmed, this book could be a rather unpleasant "trigger", and without not only your permission being granted, but without being aware of the actions performed. Control can be recognized, total control will not only not be realized, but performed without question. === I don't understand this reasoning. Is he saying if he were to use a publishing house, they would own the copyright and then could be strong-armed not to publish the book? That the CIA could silence the publishers and then Mark would be dead? I don't get it. Authors own the copyrights usually. Samantha = $ecrets 2 $uccess Inc. (http://www.secrets2success.com/special97580) Your Personal Lifestyle Upgrade Available. Want BIG MONEY and the time to enjoy it? Catch this train before it pulls out, IT IS FREE TODAY...and can you tell me when the next one runs. Winning is not everything, but the effort to win is! Remember, most locked doors are in your mind, your key to success is right here... http://www.secrets2success.com/special97580 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien on Mind Control 3/3
Transcription: Question Period Mind Control A Presentation to Justice Pro Se by Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien June 4, 1996 Livonia Civic Center Library, Livonia Michigan transcribed from tape by Peter J. Celano http://ic.net/~celano/questtrans.html Question Period Speaker as noted. Mark Phillips: (Lost several seconds - responding to question about why they won't take any verbal questions, only written ones.) ... like yourselves. We've been doing a lot of work with the mental health folks. Therapists are known as "rapists" and mental health is known as "mental hell" and I learned real quick around doctors, you don't allow them to ask verbal questions, because they get in heated arguments and (unintelligible.) Cathy O'Brien: Verbalizing goes into the emotions, and by writing, it certainly keeps it logical, and logical is the key for us all to deal with this psychological warfare tactic. Mark Phillips: Question: Is there a Masonic connection to this sexual abuse? Quite frankly, all secret societies are involved or infiltrated in some way. I know a lot of Masons that are as surprised and as shocked as you are to learn about this. But yes, Cathy was abused in some Masonic halls, and I'm sure, by the names I checked and the names that some of our friends within the FBI checked that not all of them were Masons that were in there that were in fact sexually abusing Cathy. So I guess you could say Masons are involved, but it is not a Masonic issue so much as it is a criminal issue. Question: What role does NLP play in mind control? I wish every child and every adult in this country understood Neuro Linguistic Programming. Neuro Linguistics is the language of the unconscious, and until you understand it, you can become a victim of it. Not in absolute robotic mind control, but you may find yourself impulse buying in the grocery store, or you may find yourself falling victim to a ve ry clever automobile ad or perfume ad or, I don't think you'd call it the military, but the military uses NLP and subliminal (unintelligible) heavily in their marketing campaigns to recruit. Question: Is NLP comprehensive in Colorado and Ohio and involved in this in any way? No. NLP, I believe, should be taught to everybody because if you understand something, it is not nearly as dangerous, and NLP is the language of our unconscious. Question: How does the HAARP project play into mind control of the masses? The Soviets were the first to developed this type of technology. It is based on Nicola Tesla's work, and it is tapping into the Van Allen belt, among other things. This book called, "Angels Don't Play This HAARP," by Doctor Nick Begich out of Anchorage Alaska, and it is one of the most comprehensive. His father was a Senator of Alaska, and along with the Senator from Louisiana (unintelligible), neither one of them have ever been found. Their plane went down a few years back and (unintelligible.) But Nick, his son, went on to become a doctor, and has written a wonderful book exposing this. Haarp, among other things, is a behavior modification device. It is a mind control device. Among other things, it is wreaking havoc, I believe, on our crops and certainly our weather pattern. But you need to get his book and read about that. Question: Are you on the World Wide Web? Yes. We are. Question: If yes, do you have an internet address to give out? Oh, I feel awful. Yes, I do have an address, and if you'll write us, we'll give it to you. And you can now hear us talking, do all kind of things on this particular web site, (unintelligible.) There's one of them that went into operation just last Friday which is, um, I'm really illiterate when it comes to the Web and to the net, and we've had people, supporters, putting us on there. But we have an address: PO Box 158352, Nashville, Tennessee, 37215, it is in our book. If you write to us, we will immediately get back and give you that internet number. We want to get as many questions as we possibly can. Question: What are you going to say about the Philadelphia Experiment and Montauk? Ok. First of all, for those of you who don't understand about Montauk, there are a number of people that are going around the countryside stating that we've been involved in all sorts of things involving aliens and this sort of thing. I'm not saying that there's not aliens, I'm not saying that some of our problems couldn't be alien related. All of it seems alien to me, but in my experience and all of the experience of those that I know in the various intelligence communities, no one has coughed up the information that this is aliens behind this stuff. And I'd like to understand, for you all to understand what I understand is the bad guys go to a whole lot of trouble to convince us it's aliens, and that ought to tell you something right there. But the Montauk Project is very simple.
Re: [CTRL] Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien on Mind Control 3/3
In a message dated 6/1/00 7:33:52 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Question: Usually I thought the CIA takes the book from the authors? Uh huh. That's exactly why I self published it. Because I had more publishers running into us, with all of this wild money that would have ended all my problems, and some people said, "You're a criminal! You could take this money and put Kelly back together." I said, "Let me tell you something, pal. $200,000, and that was the top offer, wouldn't even begin to put Kelly back together. All that's going to do is get me killed, because then I lose control of this information for 17 years and I'm done." I said, "No thank you. I'm going to open my own dang publishing company." I don't understand this reasoning. Is he saying if he were to use a publishing house, they would own the copyright and then could be strong-armed not to publish the book? That the CIA could silence the publishers and then Mark would be dead? I don't get it. Authors own the copyrights usually. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
