Re: [CTRL] McVeigh's execution date

2001-01-26 Thread Ted Saari

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Is anyone aware of any primary source corroboration (i.e. McVeigh)that
McVeigh actually waived his appeal?




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>Subject: Re: [CTRL] McVeigh's execution date
>Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:43:43 -0800
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>--- Aleisha Saba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"For McVeigh somehow I believe, thought he was working
>for official intelligence source..."
>___
>
>Nakano comments:  Yes, McVeigh was working for an
>"official intelligence source."  During the peak
>of the Desert Storm airwar, several hundred Iraqi
>troops called "Republic Guards" surrendered in
>Kuwait. They were keep in a prison compound in Saudi
>Arabia for about a year.  These Iraqis appealed to
>Bill Clinton for "political asylum".
>He gave it to them and issued an order to allow them
>to come and live in the United States.
>They settled in groups in several U.S. cities.
>(CBS 60 Minutes did a report about this).
>
>One group of former Iraqi soldiers settled in..
>are you ready for this...Oklahoma City.
>Tim McVeigh was an undercover intelligence agent
>assigned to keep tabs on this group. Several eye
>witnesses in Oklahoma City reported seeing McVeigh
>in the company of several of the Iraqis in the
>days before the bombing.
>The Federal Judge you mentioned was warned of the
>bombing a week before it happened.
>BTAF Office also had advance notice.
>Several eyewitnesses reported seeing the
>Oklahoma City Fire Dept. Bomb Squad and BATF agents
>deployed in the area of the Murrah Building as much
>as 3 hours before the explosion.
>_
>Aleisha Saba:
>"McVeigh, who was not too bright face it, with a chin
>like Jay Leno was easy target to find maybe?   Or
>maybe to draw picture for a wanted ad?"
>_
>
>Nakano:
>
>You are almost right on this one too.
>McVeigh was chosen to be the "Patsy" because
>there was a "McVeigh double" in the BATF.
>This BATF agent and McVeigh looked almost like
>twin brothers.  It was the McVeigh "double"
>who was speeding 85 MPH in a car with no license
>plates to purposely get pulled over and arrested.
>That's why the FBI confiscated the mugshots, the
>fingerprints records and even the bed sheets and
>blankets from the jail where the McVeigh double
>had been held for three days.  They removed all
>evidence that might prove that the man who had
>been arrested wasn't McVeigh.
>
>One more thing.  McVeigh isn't a dummy.
>He was an outstanding soldier.
>Unfortunately, he is also a victim of
>"mind control programming", and they put
>a chip implant in him to control him.
>
>I know this sounds like bizarre science fiction.
>But have you noticed there have been only one or
>two very carefully controlled interviews by
>reporters with him?  No writer has come forward
>to do interviews with McVeigh and write a book?
>In fact, since the trial, there has been almost
>nothing in the media about him.
>WHY Not?
>
>  Regards to All
>Nakano
>
>
>
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Re: [CTRL] McVeigh's execution date

2001-01-25 Thread John Cone

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--- Aleisha Saba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"For McVeigh somehow I believe, thought he was working
for official intelligence source..."
___

Nakano comments:  Yes, McVeigh was working for an
"official intelligence source."  During the peak
of the Desert Storm airwar, several hundred Iraqi
troops called "Republic Guards" surrendered in
Kuwait. They were keep in a prison compound in Saudi
Arabia for about a year.  These Iraqis appealed to
Bill Clinton for "political asylum".
He gave it to them and issued an order to allow them
to come and live in the United States.
They settled in groups in several U.S. cities.
(CBS 60 Minutes did a report about this).

One group of former Iraqi soldiers settled in..
are you ready for this...Oklahoma City.
Tim McVeigh was an undercover intelligence agent
assigned to keep tabs on this group. Several eye
witnesses in Oklahoma City reported seeing McVeigh
in the company of several of the Iraqis in the
days before the bombing.
The Federal Judge you mentioned was warned of the
bombing a week before it happened.
BTAF Office also had advance notice.
Several eyewitnesses reported seeing the
Oklahoma City Fire Dept. Bomb Squad and BATF agents
deployed in the area of the Murrah Building as much
as 3 hours before the explosion.
_
Aleisha Saba:
"McVeigh, who was not too bright face it, with a chin
like Jay Leno was easy target to find maybe?   Or
maybe to draw picture for a wanted ad?"
_

Nakano:

You are almost right on this one too.
McVeigh was chosen to be the "Patsy" because
there was a "McVeigh double" in the BATF.
This BATF agent and McVeigh looked almost like
twin brothers.  It was the McVeigh "double"
who was speeding 85 MPH in a car with no license
plates to purposely get pulled over and arrested.
That's why the FBI confiscated the mugshots, the
fingerprints records and even the bed sheets and
blankets from the jail where the McVeigh double
had been held for three days.  They removed all
evidence that might prove that the man who had
been arrested wasn't McVeigh.

One more thing.  McVeigh isn't a dummy.
He was an outstanding soldier.
Unfortunately, he is also a victim of
"mind control programming", and they put
a chip implant in him to control him.

I know this sounds like bizarre science fiction.
But have you noticed there have been only one or
two very carefully controlled interviews by
reporters with him?  No writer has come forward
to do interviews with McVeigh and write a book?
In fact, since the trial, there has been almost
nothing in the media about him.
WHY Not?

 Regards to All
   Nakano



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Re: [CTRL] McVeigh's execution date

2001-01-24 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Kansan:  Could you send that stuff on McVeigh; before Oklahoma, I had
received some information that figures into this stuff and even links to
Halle Bopp Heaven's Gate.

For McVeigh somehow I believe, thought he was working for official
intelligence source; now, how did ADL and Morris Dees know this Murrah
Building was to be blown up?

Why did they just notify BATF and FBI and ONE judge - and this one judge
would be the one that Dees spoke to shortly before and after the crime
committed?

Now the idea was to blame this on the Arabs - right?  Only McVeigh, who
was not too bright face it, with a chin like Jay Leno was easy target to
find maybe?   Or maybe to draw picture for a wanted ad?

Loot to World Trade Center and then question why nobody has ever tried
to blow up UN building .see little Buford leaving neo nazi
literature to find.and the Littleton kids called neo nazis until it
was released Klebon was jewish and his great grandfather - well need I
say more?

So big question is this - why did they leave the little babies in the
cribs to be blown up and why wasn't everybody told that this was a very
bad date.

Remember the USS Liberty?   Think about that one, and remember - the
idea is to hate the arab domestic leaders..so they said Terrorists
blew up the Murrah Building- well I think a Samsom was inside standing
between two pillars of the major foundation who planted the big boom in
this building and it ws an inside job.

Maybe look for maintenance workers with big drum like waste baskets?
But then, that is an old trick or is it?

Maybe look at the maintenance workers at Littleton for those propane
tanks had to be brought in after house.but then that building did
not blow as it was intended.

So Kansan anyway you can reproduce that item and mail it?   There is one
man with whom many acts of violence seem to be connected - he uses the
JFK assassination to get in the limelight but he also leads people to
wrong side of horsehe is a man that we know who he is not not what
he really is.CIA lawyer, always one who gets away.

Thanks in advance if this is possible Kansansomehow I think the CIA
is way ahead of these rascals now and when you are out, you are
out..hate to kick a man when he is down, but Clinton - would still
like to give him a double boot off this planet/

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Re: [CTRL] McVeigh's execution date

2001-01-24 Thread Mary K. Gemmato

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Can you elaborate...
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Subject: [CTRL] McVeigh's execution date


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>   The CLuM secret behind May 16, the date selected for Timothy
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[CTRL] McVeigh's execution date

2001-01-22 Thread PM Kansan1225

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  The CLuM secret behind May 16, the date selected for Timothy McVeigh's
phony execution, is revealed in the January 2001 issue of the newsletter
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