[CTRL] Mike and attacks on long standing members
Nessie, Mike is not a son of a bitch. He never threatened you in anyway, nor anyone else on this list. Get a grip. No one even knows who the hell you are! The slander of individual's mental states, the slander of our religions on this list are intolerable. And now one of the most prolific members has been removed for no proper reason in my eyes, and I'm sure the eyes of many others. And you dare to call HIM a son of a bitch. If someone shoots you, I would imagine it will be someone who knows you very well, not someone from an email list, and certainly not one sworn to uphold the law. This has got to be the most hate filled and bigoted email list to which I've ever belonged. If one is not a nut like the rest they are treated like shit, insulted without provocation, kicked off, called a son of a bitch. (I guess that would make Mike June's son). I don't need to be fired. I quit. You are by far the most disgusting group of idiots and I hope that you continue to enjoy your little party. And maybe with luck, you'll all piss somebody off so much that they do you all. You can only hope for the day. I do believe that you would be so proud. Especially if it were blamed on a Christian. What a feather in your bloody cap that would be! That's not a threat, but it seems an interpretation of what you truly believe that Christians are. And what I think would be your dream come true Nessie. Ever heard of a self fulfilling prophecy? Better think about it, you guys send out the most hate filled vibes I have ever encountered and the farther I get away from you the more wonderful my life will be. By the way June, I think you are the one who needs a long term stay in a psych hospital. I hope you don't have any kids! (if you do, is one of them named Damien?) Josh, you're just a butt wipe. Nuf said. Tara A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mike and attacks on long standing members
As someone who is relatively new to the list, I would like to know if anyone knows what is going on or are we all stumbling through the darkness trying to decide who, if anyone, is wearing a white hat?? The ongoing debate over evolution has deteriorated to namecalling instead of any form of serious inquiry, conspiracy or otherwise. About half way through, I completely lost track of who was on which side. Arguing and claiming each other morally and intellectually bankrupt was the only discourse. Now, it appears, paranoia has set in. At last, some real conspiracy--- created and maintained by our own list members. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mike and attacks on long standing members
--- Chris Gaydosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As someone who is relatively new to the list, I would like to know if anyone knows what is going on or are we all stumbling through the darkness trying to decide who, if anyone, is wearing a white hat?? What you have witnessed recently has happened over and over and over the nearly 3 years I have been subscribed to this list. Things are quiet for a few months and then some folks come along and start a beef. I think it is inevitable that a list devoted to this subject matter will wander off topic. Even Kris sometimes posts some things that can only tenuously be categorized as 'conspiracy theory.' A lot of ideological material gets posted here (from all over the spectrum.) And while some believe that the disruptive folks are some sort of disinfo agents, I think they are just the flakes of the world looking for a place to vent (though I have no evidence to back this up.) Our beleaguered Kris has few weapons at his disposal to deal with disruption. So Mr. Gaydosh my advice is to either ignore or draw entertainment value from the occasional war of words, use the delete key often, and keep your eyes peeled for the bits of good information. = Jeff Russo [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mindspring.com/~sevnout - "A paranoid-schizophrenic is a guy who just found out what's going on" -- William S. Burroughs __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mike and attacks on long standing members
Actually this no longer needs to be true. If the list was switched to Egroups where I have managed five lists for several years. I am ruthless about lack of respect and have no problems maintaining an environment that is postive and educational. It is very easy to place offenders on moderation to moderate who comes on the list, and indeed to ban with little effort by the moderators. http://www.egroups.com and best of all it is a free service with an excellent archive, search engine and additional benefits for members such as chat, calender, file storage (not archives which is different) and more. If Kris ever decides to move over there I will be glad to assist with transition and integration. Working with a list serve is too unwieldy for me. Kirimaku - Original Message - From: Jeff Russo [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip What you have witnessed recently has happened over and over and over the nearly 3 years I have been subscribed to this list. Things are quiet for a few months and then some folks come along and start a beef. I think it is inevitable that a list devoted to this subject matter will wander off topic. Even Kris sometimes posts some things that can only tenuously be categorized as 'conspiracy theory.' A lot of ideological material gets posted here (from all over the spectrum.) And while some believe that the disruptive folks are some sort of disinfo agents, I think they are just the flakes of the world looking for a place to vent (though I have no evidence to back this up.) Our beleaguered Kris has few weapons at his disposal to deal with disruption. So Mr. Gaydosh my advice is to either ignore or draw entertainment value from the occasional war of words, use the delete key often, and keep your eyes peeled for the bits of good information. Jeff Russo A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mike and attacks on long standing members
It is not rocket science to ban a poster with listserv either; the problem is that there are 5000 free email sites out there and someone can easily re-appear in another guise. I believe this has happened to CTRL several times in the last few years. --- Kirimaku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually this no longer needs to be true. If the list was switched to Egroups where I have managed five lists for several years. I am ruthless about lack of respect and have no problems maintaining an environment that is postive and educational. It is very easy to place offenders on moderation to moderate who comes on the list, and indeed to ban with little effort by the moderators. = Jeff Russo [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mindspring.com/~sevnout - "A paranoid-schizophrenic is a guy who just found out what's going on" -- William S. Burroughs __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mike and attacks on long standing members
From: "Kirimaku" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually this no longer needs to be true. If the list was switched to Egroups where I have managed five lists for several years. I second Kirimaku's suggestion regarding eGroups...I run a couple of lists there myself, and find it quite easy to do, especially when it comes to moderating certain subscribers and approving their posts (something I only do on rare occasions) It is very easy to place offenders on moderation to moderate who comes on the list, and indeed to ban with little effort by the moderators. Also to moderate the posts. You can set up the list options so that the moderator(s) get a copy of the moderated post, which they have the option to approve via email, or to go onto the website to read the post in its entirety... http://www.egroups.com and best of all it is a free service with an excellent archive, search engine and additional benefits for members such as chat, calender, file storage (not archives which is different) and more. The chat function is funky right now. Apparantly works for Netscape browsers, but IE has problems with it. According to the Merger email list I'm on (discussion of the Onelist and eGroups merger), it is a known problem which they are working on. Translated, it means "don't hold your breath expecting a fix any time soon"... If Kris ever decides to move over there I will be glad to assist with transition and integration. Same here. Working with a list serve is too unwieldy for me. Same here... ;-) June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mike and attacks on long standing members
Yes indeed, good comments from both of you Jeff and Chris. I tend to think this is just some people hell bent on exposing their grand ideas to the world and when someone disagrees with them they get a little bent out of shape and then the posts just have one place to go, down the sewer pipe. Please let us stay focussed on the issues and not each other, let us avoid discussing issues f FAITH and BELIEF in a way that is designed to inflame (in other words don't spout off about how YOUR belief is BETTER than someone elses or that someone is going to hell for believing what THEY believe). Issues of strong emotional content (religion, abortion, evolution, etc.) CAN be discussed here IF the focus is on the ISSUE and IF it has relevance t Conspiracy Theory, it's as simple as that. Calling people Baby Killers does nothing to foster debate nor does it have anything to do with CT. Saying Creationists are stupid fools (or some such) does nothing to encourage debate nor is it in any way related to CT. Caling people "idiot", etc., exposes no conspiracy nor does it enlighten anyone (if someone says something stupid or posts crap most people here will be able to smell its reek without having to be told that "so-and-so" is a big stupid jerk that is full of shit). Please bring issues, and have them relate to CT and don't think that your comments are holy writ and expect that everyone will sit idly by and accept what you say. Remember too that longevity on this list affords you no special status or priviledge. On Mon, 01 May 2000, Jeff Russo wrote: --- Chris Gaydosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As someone who is relatively new to the list, I would like to know if anyone knows what is going on or are we all stumbling through the darkness trying to decide who, if anyone, is wearing a white hat?? What you have witnessed recently has happened over and over and over the nearly 3 years I have been subscribed to this list. Things are quiet for a few months and then some folks come along and start a beef. I think it is inevitable that a list devoted to this subject matter will wander off topic. Even Kris sometimes posts some things that can only tenuously be categorized as 'conspiracy theory.' A lot of ideological material gets posted here (from all over the spectrum.) And while some believe that the disruptive folks are some sort of disinfo agents, I think they are just the flakes of the world looking for a place to vent (though I have no evidence to back this up.) Our beleaguered Kris has few weapons at his disposal to deal with disruption. So Mr. Gaydosh my advice is to either ignore or draw entertainment value from the occasional war of words, use the delete key often, and keep your eyes peeled for the bits of good information. = Jeff Russo [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mindspring.com/~sevnout - "A paranoid-schizophrenic is a guy who just found out what's going on" -- William S. Burroughs __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey ___ Why pay when you don't have to? Get AltaVista Free Internet Access now! http://jump.altavista.com/freeaccess4.go ___ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing
