Re: [CTRL] Oh, oh! Cristiane Amanpour is in Jerusalem. You KNOW there's going...
-Caveat Lector- Yes, and it is equally true that the Palestinians have been waiting impatiently to complete Hitler's vision of eliminating every jew in the world. There are no saints or innocents on this stage. If you think you see any you are simply delusional. There are no saints or sinner at any stage. The Palestinians probably don't really even know what Hitler's vision was. They might apply it to the Israeli vision for themselves if they did. Palestinians are certainly not a peaceful citizenry, but then the Israeli have not been loving in their dominion. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Oh,oh! Cristiane Amanpour is in Jerusalem. You KNOW there's going...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/13/2000 11:48:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is stupid Prudy. Ninety dead IS NOTHING. After 2 weeks of insurrection, ninety dead is a clear indicator of restraint. Quite impressive to those not stupefied by Arafat's propaganda. You're right. There is always restraint, but there is always the hatred. And there is always the contempt. And there is always the sneaky tormenting. It's the settling of America all over again. But then, they were the Indians, and they were not of the proper faith, and they wanted to go where they wanted to go, and they wanted their land back, and they thought they should be able to eat and feed their families. History repeats itself on this planet--over and over and over and over. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Oh,oh! Cristiane Amanpour is in Jerusalem. You KNOW there's going...
-Caveat Lector- I have not seen reports that anybody is being drug from their homes but rather shot in the streets. We have all seen children used in conflicts and wars in this manner. When there is fighting in the streets, why don't the parents keep their children inside where they would be safer! Instead, the videos always show little kids mixed in with the Palestinians. This is by design and should be pointed out on record by the UN. Where is their great concern "for the children" in this matter? This is similar to the Iranians and others using children to clear mine fields as human detection devices. Then they cry foul when one is killed or maimed--same thing using them as shields for media coverage outrage and to generate sympathy. children should not be pawns nor tools of war. Kindredspirit --- Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- "Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/13/2000 6:54:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seeing Amanpour in Jerusalem is like seeing vultures circling a hunt. You can be sure that there will be bodies. I don't know what kind of demented pictures you have of the Israelis, but you can bet your ass that if they wanted the Palestinians dead, they would be. Try to keep it real. J2 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Oh, oh! Cristiane Amanpour is in Jerusalem. You KNOW there's going to be a war.
-Caveat Lector- Seeing Amanpour in Jerusalem is like seeing vultures circling a hunt. You can be sure that there will be bodies. She spins the " official " NWO line. Let's see how this gets spun. She almost single handedly sold the " genocide " of the Kosovar Albanians to the world in order to set up an excuse to destroy the infrastructure of Yugoslavia. There was no genocide. J2 = Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak talks with CNN's Senior International Correspondent Christiane Amanpour October 12, 2000 [typos in original] AMANPOUR: Prime Minister Barak, you have just finished saying that this was a limited action, that you did not target Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat. But you have never -- Israel has never taken this extensive action against the Palestinians. How do you expect them to react? BARAK: I expect them to put an end to violence that they have initiated and are responsible for. We have this morning -- we had a lynch of three Israeli reservist soldiers; people came from the home and were lynched, then mutilated and burned. It's something that no government on Earth could accept, and Israel is ready to look open- eyed at the situation. Understand that we are living in the Middle East, not in North America and not the Midwest, and this is a place where you cannot expect anyone to respect you, you cannot expect your own people to trust you if cannot respond to such an event. And we responded in a very focused manner, very clear signal that we will not have this kind of violence continue forever. AMANPOUR: Mr. Prime Minister, this looks like an argument that is spinning out of control, each side blaming the other for what's going on, each side saying that the other one has to stop. Isn't it time, Mr. Prime Minister, to show leadership, to stop this? BARAK: We have stopped it some hundred times since it began 10 days ago or 12 days ago. We are ready all along the way to stop it. We are not creating the provocation, we are responding, and we will keep responding. Unfortunately, you cannot let your neck be kind of cut as a gesture for your neighbor, even if it's a good neighbor. AMANPOUR: Would you acknowledge, Mr. Prime Minister, this kind of heavy weaponry, this kind of offensive action, simply plays into the hands of the extremists on both sides? BARAK: I say, first of all, it's a necessity. We cannot avoid it. It's the role of a government to defend its soldiers and its citizens. We did it in a way that did not cause casualties. There are few people wounded. We made clear to announce in advance what kind of headquarters we are going to attack. We made clear that every place we approach, first of all, we signaled with few shots that something is happening so everyone can go out and then we hit it, so that there are very few wounded people, much less than in every daily demonstration where the Palestinians in their terrible way of sending people with weapons, innocent citizens, and kids, together. That's crazy. AMANPOUR: Mr. Prime Minister, the Palestinian Authority president says in fact there were several people killed in attack, and there were dozens of people wounded. Nobody... BARAK: I beg to kind of question the level of credibility that this authority, the Palestinian Authority, has in reporting effects. AMANPOUR: Nobody would condone what you described as the lynching this morning. But the Palestinians and the rest of the world who are looking at the last two weeks know that the majority of the people who have been killed -- nearly 100 people -- are Palestinians. BARAK: Christiane, try to imagine that you have a farm, it's attacked by rebels. You respond. Unfortunately, they are trying to kill you respond. You kill five of them and one of your family was killed. Is it fair to say that unless you will kill or let someone else kill another four of your family, it's not satisfactory? It makes him, not just the Hamas and Islamic Jihad, responsible for the following terrorist attacks that might easily come. We have to be able to make it clear. It's like you have lost today at the near Aden port four sailors and some, maybe 12, that disappeared. When you try to ask yourself, what's that, is it something offensive that the vessel had done? It's nonsense. Butchering is the intention of terrorists, to take the life of Americans since you are standing firm for freedom and against terror. And that's exactly what the world expects the leaders of the free world to do. AMANPOUR: But don't you think what you've just done plays into the hands of that very activity? Don't you think that it just encourages the push toward the extremist side? BARAK: I tell you, to bury more Israel does encourage them. There is no -- we are living in a neighborhood which is somewhat different from the neighborhood you are living in. It's not North America; it's not Western Europe. This is a place where there is no mercy for the
Re: [CTRL] Oh, oh! Cristiane Amanpour is in Jerusalem. You KNOW there's going...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/13/2000 6:54:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seeing Amanpour in Jerusalem is like seeing vultures circling a hunt. You can be sure that there will be bodies. But J2, the vultures can already get fat circling Israel. When you're counting the bodies, be sure to compare the numbers. Today's headlines in our paper are screaming about the two Israeli soldiers who were killed, but our paper never mentioned anything about the various Palestinians who were dragged out of their homes and killed. Would war be so bad? Israel has been waiting impatiently for a chance to kill as many Palestinians as possible without damaging their chances for money and arms donations. If they kill them all, they don't need to share anything with them do they? Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Oh, oh! Cristiane Amanpour is in Jerusalem. You KNOW there's going...
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:37:04 EDT "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Israel has been waiting impatiently for a chance to kill as many Palestinians as possible without damaging their chances for money and arms donations. Yes, and it is equally true that the Palestinians have been waiting impatiently to complete Hitler's vision of eliminating every jew in the world. There are no saints or innocents on this stage. If you think you see any you are simply delusional. ### It's a scientific fact that if you stay in California you lose one point of your IQ every year. -- Truman Capote A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Oh,oh! Cristiane Amanpour is in Jerusalem. You KNOW there's going...
-Caveat Lector- "Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/13/2000 6:54:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seeing Amanpour in Jerusalem is like seeing vultures circling a hunt. You can be sure that there will be bodies. But J2, the vultures can already get fat circling Israel. When you're counting the bodies, be sure to compare the numbers. Today's headlines in our paper are screaming about the two Israeli soldiers who were killed, but our paper never mentioned anything about the various Palestinians who were dragged out of their homes and killed. Would war be so bad? Israel has been waiting impatiently for a chance to kill as many Palestinians as possible without damaging their chances for money and arms donations. If they kill them all, they don't need to share anything with them do they? Prudy This is stupid Prudy. Ninety dead IS NOTHING. After 2 weeks of insurrection, ninety dead is a clear indicator of restraint. Quite impressive to those not stupefied by Arafat's propaganda. A war, would be worse. There would be nothing but 40,000 armed men facing the IDF. Now take off your shoes and socks, and start counting the dead. Pointing up the deaths of the Israeli soldiers counteracts the devastating pictures of the death of that 12 year old child. That's why it's being played up. Did you see those pictures? Not exactly Ghandis are they? But of course Prudy you don't have to live with them under the most dangerous circumstances do you? It's easy to take sides at 7,000 miles away. No threat, no danger. I don't know what kind of demented pictures you have of the Israelis, but you can bet your ass that if they wanted the Palestinians dead, they would be. Try to keep it real. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
