Re: [CTRL] On CNN Manipulating Images (fwd)

2001-09-17 Thread Michael Pugliese

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Posted to Marxmail by Jose Perez:

[Following the recent spate or repostings of the charge that CNN
played decade old video claiming it was Palestinians celebrating the
Sep. 11 attacks, a person named Craig Gingold did the logical thing,
and wrote CNN. He was immediately answered by the person in charge of
newsgathering for CNN, Eason Jordan. Gingold asks that his email and
Jordan's response be circulated to all lists where the charge against
CNN was aired]

[I do not know Craig Gingold, or if I do I don't recall who he is.
But I have known Eason Jordan, the executive who answered his email,
for more than a decade, at least casually, as well as observed his
work, or the results of it, at fairly close range.

[I'm sure if we sat down to have a philosophical or political
discussion Jordan and I might disagree on countless topics. But on
the level of the formal, ethical norms and standards of mainstream
journalism, nothing I've ever seen him do or say nor anything I have
ever heard about him would raise the slightest question in my mind
about taking his probity for granted on an issue like this.

[Jordan is a Georgia native who rose through the CNN. He came into
CNN in his early 20s and was for five or six years the overnight
person on CNN's international desk. At the end of the 1980's, as CNN
grew and its international reporting expanded, he was put in charge
of the growing international desk, and is especially associated with
initiatives like making sure CNN kept a reporting presence in Iraq
throughout the Gulf War and resisting significant pressure from the
U.S. and its allies in that war to stop reporting Iraq's side of that
story.

[There would be, undoubtedly, countless things one might criticize
from a left-wing point of view about this reporting, but even so, it
must be admitted that CNN covered Iraq's side in that war to an
extent that was unprecedented in the history of mainstream American
journalism. Similarly, he was closely associated with things like
CNN's establishing a bureau in Havana, and was the first journalist
from a major Western news organization to report on North Korea,
using a small DV cam to record pictures and reporting about the
famine that country was facing 3 or 4 years back. He has stanchly
defended CNN's hiring of Palestinian journalists and the airing of
their work against a barrage of criticism from the Israeli press and
government. Under Jordan, CNN's international desk became much more
of a truly international desk, with staff members from all over the
world, including many from the third world. A number of people that
came in essentially as person-on-the-lowest-rung on the international
desk (most famously Christian Amanpour but not just her) have gone on
to do some of the better on-screen CNN international reporting of
recent years, despite funny accents, bad delivery and faces made
for radio.

[Unfortunately, U.S. viewers get very little exposure to this
reporting, as the CNN domestic network (the one everyone thinks of as
the CNN although the truth is CNN International has many, many more
subscribers) no longer carries much of this material, unlike several
years ago, before Time-Warner acquired Turner broadcasting.

[An interesting question for CNN to ponder might be why what is
presented as an unsubstantiated rumor was given such credence. I say
unsubstantiated rumor because the person who made the charge didn't
even CLAIM to have the proof, and there was a strong suggestion in
how he wrote about it that he'd never even seen the alleged proof.
The person who was said to have the proof was an anonymous teacher.
And on the *substance* of the events, there is no dispute that there
were initially some expressions of celebration among Palestinians
when the first reports on the attacks came through.

[I do not believe such a claim would have been as easily accepted
say, eight or ten years ago.]

[José]

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- Original Message -
From: Craig Gingold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:00 PM
Subject: !b_a_Act: CNN Exec Replies to Phony Video Accusation

Over the last several days an extremely alarming email has been
circulating on virtually every email list in existence, judging by
the number of copies that I have received. The basic charge is that
CNN perpetrated a knowing deception of its viewers by airing a
10-year-old videotape of Palestinians celebrating during the Gulf
War, but misrepresenting it as showing celebrations of the terror
attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. I hardly need explain
why this is an extremely serious accusation. The implications -- if
true -- are so disturbing that I felt compelled to make an effort to
ascertain the veracity of the claim. (The relevant parts of that
email are at the very end of this posting.)

Given the incredibly wide circulation of the email, and the fact that
it is based entirely on the 

[CTRL] On CNN Manipulating Images (fwd)

2001-09-16 Thread Yardbird

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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:42:58 -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [neah] Carvalho apologized on CNN Manipulating Images

Hello,

I wanted to inform you on the issue of CNN using
1991 footage.

Márcio A. V. Carvalho from State University of
Campinas - Brazil
wrote: I sincerely apologize for this uncertain information;
unfortunately I can't prove the information contained in my last
post; IT'S ONLY A CONJECTURE, THAT THOSE IMAGES OF PALESTINIANS
CELEBRATING IS FALSE. I bought the idea myself, and reproduced it for
you because of the importance of it, in the case it was to be
confirmed.

I wish he had informed us in person. This article
caused our
website to crash several times during the weekend.
Our server got
up to 4 hits per second.

After CounterPuncher took this issue seriously, it
appeared on their
front page: http://www.counterpunch.org/ This
article was taken of
their web site.

It was also published on our website:
http://www.indymedia.org.ilarticle/6946


After searching for information on the issue of CNN
using 1991
footage of celebrating Palestinians. I finally found
an email by
Marcio A. V. Carvalho. This email was sent to the
soc.culture.polish Newsgroup.


Have a happy new year,


Guy

indymedia group - ISRAEL
http://www.indymedia.org.il/
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independent media ogranizations
and hundreds of journalists
offering grassroots, non-corporate
coverage of major events.

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 Dear all,

 Last September 13, I've sent an email to a social
 theory list in which
 I provided some information about the falsity of the
 images of
 Palestinian celebration for the terrorism in USA,
 information given to
 me by a teacher. I spent the last day looking for
 that teacher, and,
 unfortunately, when I found her, she DENIED having
 access to such
 images.

 She said that she was sure she had seen the images
 back in 1991, but
 SHE CAN'T PROVE. She was not willing to provide
 further information,
 DENYING what she had said before to a full class of
 students.

 I sincerely apologize for this uncertain
 information; unfortunately I
 can't prove the information contained in my last
 post; IT'S ONLY A
 CONJECTURE, THAT THOSE IMAGES OF PALESTINIANS
 CELEBRATING IS FALSE. I
 bought the idea myself, and reproduced it for you
 because of the
 importance of it, in the case it was to be
 confirmed.

 Whatever news I get I'll pass to you.

 Best regards

 Márcio A. V. Carvalho
 State University of Campinas - Brazil


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   - Original Message -
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:48 PM
   Subject: CNN: Manipuating Images?
  
  
Independent Media Center
  http://www.indymedia.org:8081
   
  CNN USING 1991 FOOTAGE of celebrating
 Palistinians to manipulate
  you
  (english) Wednesday 12 Sep 2001
  author: Marcio
   
  I'd like to add some ideas from here,
 down south.
   
  There's an important point in the power
 of press, specifically the
  power
  of CNN.
   
  All around the world we are subjected to
 3 or 4 huge news
  distributors,
  and one of them - as you well know - is
 CNN. Very well, I guess
   all
   of
  you have been seeing (just as I've been)
 images from this company.
  In
  particular, one set of images called my
 attencion: the
  Palestinians
  celebrating the bombing, out on the
 streets, eating some cake and
  making
  funny faces for the camera.
   
  Well, THOSE IMAGES WERE SHOT BACK IN
 1991!!! Those are images of
  Palestinians celebrating the invasion of
 Kuwait! It's simply
  unacceptable that a super-power of
 cumminications as CNN uses
  images
  which do not correspond to the reality
 in talking about so serious
  an
  issue.
   
  A teacher of mine, here in Brazil, has
 videotapes recorded in
   1991,
   with
  the very same images; he's been sending
 emails to CNN, Globo (the
  major
  TV network in Brazil) and newspapers,
 denouncing what I myself
  classify
  as a crime against the public opinion.
 If anyone of you has access
  to
  this kind of files, serch for it. In the
 meanwhile, I'll try to
   'put