Re: [CTRL] Our web domain blocked
-Caveat Lector- your site was checked out and all you need to do is to pay your bill. It has been long enough that you will have to upload your files again. piper Sean McDougal wrote: -Caveat Lector- From: K [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Our web domain blocked Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:08:40 -0500 -Caveat Lector- Why couldn't a series of mirror sites be set up around the net? Surely the original HTML still resides on the owners drive. I am sure that is possible. Unfortunately, when something like this happens it throws a monkey wrench into the information disseminating process because regular visitors cannot simply be emailed and told where the new site is and the spoken of, taken over site would have to be re-hacked in order to redirect people. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Our web domain blocked
-Caveat Lector- Hey that's my page. Check it out again. Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage - Original Message - From: John Szocik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Our web domain blocked -Caveat Lector- When I attempted to access the URL : http:// sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage I was dumped on some site stating that this URL was not accessible anymore! What's up with that?! JOHN DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Our web domain blocked
-Caveat Lector- Why couldn't a series of mirror sites be set up around the net? Surely the original HTML still resides on the owners drive. Kathleen Every age and generation must be as free to act for itself, in all cases, as the ages and generations which preceeded it." -- T homas Paine DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Our web domain blocked
-Caveat Lector- From: K [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Our web domain blocked Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:08:40 -0500 -Caveat Lector- Why couldn't a series of mirror sites be set up around the net? Surely the original HTML still resides on the owners drive. I am sure that is possible. Unfortunately, when something like this happens it throws a monkey wrench into the information disseminating process because regular visitors cannot simply be emailed and told where the new site is and the spoken of, taken over site would have to be re-hacked in order to redirect people. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Our web domain blocked
-Caveat Lector- When I attempted to access the URL : http:// sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage I was dumped on some site stating that this URL was not accessible anymore! What's up with that?! JOHN DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Our web domain blocked
-Caveat Lector- NWO took over their website, an anti terminator seed website. Vaporized it, made it a dummy site, but dead. What can they do? It's so amazing. Received: from mb04.swip.net (mb04.swip.net [193.12.122.208]) by grebe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23556; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:17:25 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from jaan (dialup38-4-32.swipnet.se [130.244.38.224]) by mb04.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA24197; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:10:12 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:11:03 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PSRAST - Our web domain blocked! - Attempted suppression of our information Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Physicians and Scientists for Responsible Application of Science and Technology (PSRAST) ATTEMPTED SUPPRESSION OF OUR INFORMATION - OUR WEB DOMAIN IS BLOCKED Our domain "www.psrast.org" was, on August 27, 1999, taken over by an unkown agent and is inaccessible. All traffic to our website is now directed to another site owned by "Globalworks corporation" (click here: http://www.psrast.org and you will see). This is apparently a mock site, as the "links" from the index page of "Globalworks" are just underlined text. And the e-mail is returned as "host unknown". We take this apparent *sabotage* act as a dubious recoginition of the importance of our site (we have not heard of any other similar case). It is however serious that such attempts at suppressing the free word occurs. The biotech industry has taken similar actions before, like threatening publishers and in one known case a TV station when they were about to publish unfavorable facts (read: the truth) about genetic engineering. So there are reasons to suspect them although we are not able to prove it at this stage, if ever, as they are likely to cover their trails carefully. On Friday the 27th August we we entered information at our website about the warning for investing in Biotech that Europe's leading bank had sent to over 1000 institutional investors (see "Message to investors in Biotechnology", URL: http://www.psrast.org/messinvest.htm). It was the strongest blow against biotech shares so far. - Is it just a coincidence that we were blocked out within 24 hours after this? Already before that the webpage contained enough information to dishearten investors - was this the "drop"? We are taking action to stop this intrusion and hope to be able to recover our domain (including contacting InterNIC). If you are knowledgeable about such matters, please contact us. For example we would need help to, if possible, track the owner of the "globalworks" site. We would greatly appreciate if you wanted to convey this information and our new (temporary?) URLs, given below, to friends who may be interested in GE. URL in the US (may be more rapid than the other but has banners that disturb): http://psrast.webjump.com/indexeng.htm URL in Europe: http://home2.sbbs2.com/genfacts/indexeng.htm WE NEED MORE SPONSORING We are in great need of more sponsorship. We are still on the verge of having to close down. At the same time as we are on the verge of a major breakthrough (an additional reason for blocking us out?). Because of the loss of our domain site, on-line sponsoring does not work (we can only use free sites, and they don't support the cgi-scripts required for the on-line service). So please mail either banknotes or checks or make a transfer in accord with the instructions at: http://psrast.webjump.com/sponsor.htm or http://home2.sbbs2.com/genfacts/sponsor.htm Although it becomes more and more apparent that the food biotech enterprise is heading towards a crash, the industry is fighting hard. It is now directing great efforts to Third World countries where legislation is less developed, the countries are more or less "defensless" against pressure from superpowers, being dependent on support from them, and corruption may often be pronounced. At the same time, release of GE crops there is likely to do much greater damage to biodiversity and the ecology because there are more wild relatives to important GE crops. It is by the way ironic that the EPA of the US, at approval of GE crop release in the US, considers the risk for spread of transgenes to wild relatives, while the government of the US does not hesitate to press hard to promote the spread of such genes in countries where this risk is considerable. And is lobbying hard internationally to achieve a global deregulation of Biotech crops. So there are very strong reasons to continue campaigning so as to achieve a global moratorium as soon as possible. Best regards, Jaan Suurkula, MD Chairman ___
Re: [CTRL] Our web domain blocked
-Caveat Lector- Re: domain blocked: GE FOODS. This sounds like NSA.workFew months ago the private conversations of the British Minister for Health-- who is pro labelling- were intercepted and given to Monsanto. This is pure fascism. The Government works for a select few firms.!. This interception caused a fury in England. The press in the US has not reported the storm of protest against GE products in Europe.The September issue of FTIR is devoted entirely to the dangers of GE products and the GE controversy. FTIR has never accepted GE as a "future technology'...its all about control of food supply. ( Single issue $5, PO Box 2903 Sacramento CA 95812) It is extraordinary that US Government would risk relations with friendly countries just to help out Monsanto. A little research needed hereWe remember Bobby Inman who runs NSA say that NSA would NEVER help private firms. And those wimpy marshmallows in Congress wont do anything as we state in this months FTIR check out your food intake. You cant rely on Washington DC DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
