Re: [CTRL] PG Satan Rumors

1999-05-05 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 05/04/1999 8:21:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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HOUSTON (Reuters) - Along with soap and vitamins, those friendly Amway
salesmen have been pushing something else for years -- false rumors
that rival Procter  Gamble Co. is in league with the devil --
attorneys charged in opening arguments of a lawsuit Monday.

Procter  Gamble lawyers said Amway Corp. had tried to take away sales
by fomenting the mistaken belief, prevalent in some religious circles,
that Procter  Gamble's venerable trademark incorporated satanic
symbols such as the number ``666'' and devil's horns. 

How's about the old saw, "A pox on both their houses."  Prudy

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[CTRL] PG Satan Rumors

1999-05-04 Thread Brian Redman

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   Tuesday May 4 8:09 AM ET

Amway Spread Satan Rumors, PG Claims In Court

   By Jeff Franks

   HOUSTON (Reuters) - Along with soap and vitamins, those friendly Amway
   salesmen have been pushing something else for years -- false rumors
   that rival Procter  Gamble Co. is in league with the devil --
   attorneys charged in opening arguments of a lawsuit Monday.

   Procter  Gamble lawyers said Amway Corp. had tried to take away sales
   by fomenting the mistaken belief, prevalent in some religious circles,
   that Procter  Gamble's venerable trademark incorporated satanic
   symbols such as the number ``666'' and devil's horns.

   ``They (Amway) know full well the malignant, cancerous effect of
   associating someone with a satanic cult,'' Procter  Gamble attorney
   Mike Gallagher said. ``It incorporates everything that is bad and
   nothing that's good.'' The lawsuit is the culmination of years of
   bitterness between Procter  Gamble and Amway, which has filed a
   counter-suit charging that Procter  Gamble is conducting a smear
   campaign.

   Procter  Gamble attorneys said Amway might have encouraged the rumors
   since they first surfaced in the 1970s. The lawsuit asks for $595
   million in lost sales from 1995 to 1997, plus an unspecified amount
   for damage to the company's reputation.

   An attorney for direct marketer Amway denied the charges and said
   Procter  Gamble had sued because it was concerned about Amway's
   strong sales growth in Asia.

   The trademark, which dates back to the 1850s, shows a bearded ``man in
   the moon'' looking over 13 stars, one for each of the original 13
   American colonies.

   Procter  Gamble says the trademark ``remains an important company
   identification'' but removed it in 1985 from the company's more than
   300 products. These include such well-known brands as Tide laundry
   detergent, Crest toothpaste, Ivory soap, Pampers disposable diapers
   and Folgers coffee.

   In an audio tape played in court Monday, an Amway distributor said in
   an April 1995 voice mail to other distributors that Procter  Gamble's
   president had admitted on the Phil Donahue television show that a
   percentage of the company's profits went to the ``Church of Satan.''

   But Amway attorney Charles Babcock, who successfully defended talk
   show hostess Oprah Winfrey against a 1998 lawsuit brought by Texas
   livestock producers who said she had defamed beef, said Amway did not
   approve of the distributor's message and had quickly ordered him to
   send out a retraction.

   ``We've bent over backwards to help Procter  Gamble stop this
   rumor,'' he said.

   Babcock said the Satanism rumors emanated not from Amway but from
   religious groups unhappy about Procter  Gamble's sponsorship of
   controversial television programs. He charged that the company had
   handled the problem badly from the beginning.

   He showed a videotape of comedian David Letterman joking about the
   rumors on his television show to make the point that the firm's
   botched public relations efforts had spread the Satanism rumors far
   and wide.

   ``They're not mad at us. They're mad at themselves, and they're trying
   to blame us,'' Babcock said.

   The real reason for the lawsuit, Babcock argued, was Procter 
   Gamble's concern that Amway was growing rapidly in Asia because of its
   direct-sales strategy.

   The company sells its 450 products through 3 million independent
   distributors worldwide, not through stores, and is known as much for
   its aggressive recruiting of new distributors as it is for its
   products.

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