Re: [CTRL] Reviving the Declaration Of Independence (fwd)

1999-10-27 Thread Tatman, Robert

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I like the proposal to add lines from the Declaration of Independence to the
Pledge of Allegiance, but I would go farther and include the following
excerpt:

"We hold these Truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal.
That they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights.
That among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving
their just powers from the consent of the governed.
That when any government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right
of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government,
laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such
form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and
well-being.
Prudence indeed will dictate that governments long established should be
changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath
shewn, that mankind are disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than
to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the
same design, evinces a desire to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is
their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and provide new
guards for their future security."

I DARE anyone--Democrat, Republican, Reform, Green, whatever--to require
THAT to be said each day by the nation's schoolchildren. It remains the
single most revolutionary statement ever written, and it is a sin that very,
very few American citizens have any idea what's in it.

-Original Message-
From:   MICHAEL SPITZER [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, October 24, 1999 12:48 PM
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Subject:        [CTRL] Reviving the Declaration Of Independence
(fwd)

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The Claremont Institute--PRECEPTS
October 22, 1999
http://www.claremont.org
No. 199

In December of 1776, General George Washington and the
Continental Army crossed the icy Delaware River to Trenton, New
Jersey. There, the Americans won their first major victory in the
war of independence against the British. On November 8, 1999, the
Claremont Institute will cross the Delaware and fight another
battle in Trenton, for the same principles as those for which
Washington and his men fought 223 years ago.

An issue has arisen in New Jersey that reaches to the heart of
the principles of Washington.  It is raised by the Declaration of
Independence Bill, which has been stopped, dead in its tracks, in
the New Jersey State Senate. The bill, fiercely opposed by a
contingent of liberal lawmakers, was passed by the lower house.
The bill would require students in the state's public schools to
recite two sentences from the Declaration of Independence daily,
along with the Pledge of Allegiance. They are:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are
created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with
certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights,
governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers
from the consent of the governed."

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Re: [CTRL] Reviving the Declaration Of Independence (fwd)

1999-10-27 Thread Lucio Benedetto

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Bravo!  Frankly, I'd prefer to substitute these lines wholly for the current
Pledge.  The Declaration is our most important document.  The Constitution
is great, as far as it goes, but it is merely the documentary foundation of
one type of government.  Our true power and our true freedom as a people
rests in these excellent passages from the Declaration.  The Declaration
reminds us not that we need third or fourth parties (or, in today's case, a
second party), but that we have the power to imagine and implement other
forms of social organization beyond those with which we are familiar.

Lucio

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 I like the proposal to add lines from the Declaration of Independence to
the
 Pledge of Allegiance, but I would go farther and include the following
 excerpt:

 "We hold these Truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal.
 That they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights.
 That among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
 That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,
deriving
 their just powers from the consent of the governed.
 That when any government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the
right
 of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government,
 laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in
such
 form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and
 well-being.
 Prudence indeed will dictate that governments long established should be
 changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience
hath
 shewn, that mankind are disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable,
than
 to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
 But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the
 same design, evinces a desire to reduce them under absolute despotism, it
is
 their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and provide
new
 guards for their future security."

 I DARE anyone--Democrat, Republican, Reform, Green, whatever--to require
 THAT to be said each day by the nation's schoolchildren. It remains the
 single most revolutionary statement ever written, and it is a sin that
very,
 very few American citizens have any idea what's in it.

 -Original Message-
 From:   MICHAEL SPITZER [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:   Sunday, October 24, 1999 12:48 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:        [CTRL] Reviving the Declaration Of Independence
 (fwd)

  -Caveat Lector-

 The Claremont Institute--PRECEPTS
 October 22, 1999
 http://www.claremont.org
 No. 199

 In December of 1776, General George Washington and the
 Continental Army crossed the icy Delaware River to Trenton, New
 Jersey. There, the Americans won their first major victory in the
 war of independence against the British. On November 8, 1999, the
 Claremont Institute will cross the Delaware and fight another
 battle in Trenton, for the same principles as those for which
 Washington and his men fought 223 years ago.

 An issue has arisen in New Jersey that reaches to the heart of
 the principles of Washington.  It is raised by the Declaration of
 Independence Bill, which has been stopped, dead in its tracks, in
 the New Jersey State Senate. The bill, fiercely opposed by a
 contingent of liberal lawmakers, was passed by the lower house.
 The bill would require students in the state's public schools to
 recite two sentences from the Declaration of Independence daily,
 along with the Pledge of Allegiance. They are:

 "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are
 created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with
 certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty,
 and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights,
 governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers
 from the consent of the governed."

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[CTRL] Reviving the Declaration Of Independence (fwd)

1999-10-24 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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The Claremont Institute--PRECEPTS
October 22, 1999
http://www.claremont.org
No. 199

In December of 1776, General George Washington and the
Continental Army crossed the icy Delaware River to Trenton, New
Jersey. There, the Americans won their first major victory in the
war of independence against the British. On November 8, 1999, the
Claremont Institute will cross the Delaware and fight another
battle in Trenton, for the same principles as those for which
Washington and his men fought 223 years ago.

An issue has arisen in New Jersey that reaches to the heart of
the principles of Washington.  It is raised by the Declaration of
Independence Bill, which has been stopped, dead in its tracks, in
the New Jersey State Senate. The bill, fiercely opposed by a
contingent of liberal lawmakers, was passed by the lower house.
The bill would require students in the state's public schools to
recite two sentences from the Declaration of Independence daily,
along with the Pledge of Allegiance. They are:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are
created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with
certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights,
governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers
from the consent of the governed."

Those two sentences describe both in time and in principle the
foundation of our country. And today, they are controversial.

As we have reported before, a few powerful citizens of New Jersey
claim that it would be wrong for children to recite those words,
on the grounds that they applied only to wealthy white men at the
expense of women and minorities.

We are going to New Jersey on November 8 to prove three things.
First, that the opponents of the Declaration of Independence are
wrong when they say that the Declaration excluded women and
blacks. Second, that they are also wrong to call America's
Founders hypocrites, and that rejection of the bill on this
ground is illogical. Third, that behind these opponents'
arguments is an antipathy to the principles of the Declaration of
Independence, the principles of natural rights and limited
government, and that rejecting their arguments is essential to
preserving American democracy.

Joining us at the Trenton War Memorial will be Steve Forbes,
Jersey City Mayor Bret Schundler, and one of the bill's sponsors,
State Assemblyman Michael Patrick Carroll. We hope the bill's
opponents join us there, too, so they might be set right.

For more information about the Claremont Institute's "Revive the
Battle at Trenton" rally and luncheon, I invite you to visit our
website at www.claremont.org/Events/trenton990909.cfm, or go to
our home page at www.claremont.org.

Sincerely,
Larry P. Arnn
President, The Claremont Institute


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