Re: [CTRL] Tonight on History Channel: "The Crop Circle Controversy"
-Caveat Lector- > > > Usually they trot out a couple of elderly guys or some college > > > students who say they made all the crop circles. They must have one > > > heck of a travel allotment. As the y appear all over the world. > > > > IMHO, they are made with masers or lasers from satellites, using > > templates that someone or other drew. > > Although to just what purpose, I have no idea. Perhaps to keep the > > uFO controversy going. > > If they're done by satellites (which I find more plausible than a couple of > geysers with two-by-fours) then the purpose would be to gain ultimate control > of the people. Create a hoax, let the suspense build, then say it's aliens > doing it, and if we don't do as they say, the aliens have threatened to > destroy us in probably more words than that. I imagine that most people > in the world would be gullible enough to believe such a story. Then the real > scientists and intellectuals would become what UFOlogists are now -- that wild > and crazy bunch that can't get a grip on reality. if people did that, you'd get riots and whatnot worldwide. they're not about to go and create more chaos... they're just religious symbols being shot down by ruling masons using some kind of bizarre electromagnetic waves or something. do some comparisons on crop circles & runes, mason art, etc.. inri np: throbbing gristle http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Tonight on History Channel: "The Crop Circle Controversy"
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:53:40 -0500, Marilyn Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > On 29 Jan 01, at 13:43, Carl Amedio wrote: > > > Usually they trot out a couple of elderly guys or some college > > students who say they made all the crop circles. They must have one > > heck of a travel allotment. As the y appear all over the world. > > IMHO, they are made with masers or lasers from satellites, using > templates that someone or other drew. > Although to just what purpose, I have no idea. Perhaps to keep the > uFO controversy going. If they're done by satellites (which I find more plausible than a couple of geysers with two-by-fours) then the purpose would be to gain ultimate control of the people. Create a hoax, let the suspense build, then say it's aliens doing it, and if we don't do as they say, the aliens have threatened to destroy us in probably more words than that. I imagine that most people in the world would be gullible enough to believe such a story. Then the real scientists and intellectuals would become what UFOlogists are now -- that wild and crazy bunch that can't get a grip on reality. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- I only caught the first half of the show on crop circles but really liked it! The History Channel has one on UFO's I believe is tonight. Some of the crop circles were quite elaborate. I could se two guys with a rope and board making the plain circles but the more elaborate designs would take some time and measurements being taken. Anybody have explanations? Favorite theories? I saw some "ice rings" on a pond during our recent freeze and asked a couple of farmers about possible causes and they seemed to think an underground spring bubbling up warmer water could cause this. Hhuumm--they were near perfect circles but I suppose it is possible. Maybe I should ask them about crop circles. I would need photos to show them as I doubt they are familiar with this phenomenon. Amelia - Original Message - From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Tonight on History Channel: "The Crop Circle Controversy" > -Caveat Lector- > > From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > BTW, has anyone else > > noticed that the cable network, "Travel Network" (i.e., the > > channel that is usually dominated by vacation travel destination > > type shows) has been almost EXCLUSIVELY *serious* treatments of > > shows dealing with UFOs, ghost and haunting locales, and > > paranormal shows having about ZERO to do with TERRESTRIAL travel > > for the last few weeks!?!?!? > > The Travel Channel puts these shows on during the weekend, for the most part...they bill it as "Haunted > Destinations", I guess to appeal to people who would like to travel to interesting places... > > > June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Tonight on History Channel: "The Crop Circle Controversy"
-Caveat Lector- From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > BTW, has anyone else > noticed that the cable network, "Travel Network" (i.e., the > channel that is usually dominated by vacation travel destination > type shows) has been almost EXCLUSIVELY *serious* treatments of > shows dealing with UFOs, ghost and haunting locales, and > paranormal shows having about ZERO to do with TERRESTRIAL travel > for the last few weeks!?!?!? The Travel Channel puts these shows on during the weekend, for the most part...they bill it as "Haunted Destinations", I guess to appeal to people who would like to travel to interesting places... June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Tonight on History Channel: "The Crop Circle Controversy"
-Caveat Lector- On 29 Jan 01, at 13:43, Carl Amedio wrote: > Usually they trot out a couple of elderly guys or some college > students who say they made all the crop circles. They must have one > heck of a travel allotment. As the y appear all over the world. IMHO, they are made with masers or lasers from satellites, using templates that someone or other drew. Although to just what purpose, I have no idea. Perhaps to keep the uFO controversy going. sno0wl http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Tonight on History Channel: "The Crop Circle Controversy"
In a message dated 1/29/01 12:39:05 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > [I just saw the hyped-up trailer for this new episode of "Histories > Mysteries," and it came off as though they have much new information that > supports the paranormal origins of at least some crop formations (i.e., Usually they trot out a couple of elderly guys or some college students who say they made all the crop circles. They must have one heck of a travel allotment. As the y appear all over the world. Carl
Re: [CTRL] Tonight on History Channel: "The Crop Circle Controversy"
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 09:46:34 -0700, MICHAEL SPITZER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > [I just saw the hyped-up trailer for this new episode of "Histories > Mysteries," and it came off as though they have much new information that > supports the paranormal origins of at least some crop formations (i.e., > versus passing all crop formations off as world-wide frauds and hoaxes ALL > perpetrated by two very elderly, and/or recently deceased, English country > side farmers, as were the conclusions of several other recent made-for-TV > documentaries, e.g., the recent idiotic B.B.C. presentation on crop > circles, as well as the completely ludicrous recent U.S. treatment that > was hosted by Judd Nelson). Hey, some of these crop circles are simply too elaborate and detailed for a couple of old geyzers to go out stomping around the fields with two by fours and twine. I'm sorry, but I don't believe that all of these circles were done by old men. I've seen some crop circles that were poorly done and I beleived them to be hoaxes, but some of these cirlces are simple too beautiful and too symmetrical to have been done with boards and string. To do these kinds of circles, men would need aerial surveyors and weeks, if not months of work to complete some of these designs so perfectly, if they could do it at all. > BTW, has anyone else noticed that the cable network, "Travel Network" > (i.e., the channel that is usually dominated by vacation travel > destination type shows) has been almost EXCLUSIVELY *serious* treatments > of shows dealing with UFOs, ghost and haunting locales, and paranormal > shows having about ZERO to do with TERRESTRIAL travel for the last few > weeks!?!?!? Weird? Seems to me that this type thing is more than just > network programmers, news media, advertisers, etc., just "answering the > public's interest and desire" to see/hear/read of things related to ETs, > etc. I figure the government announced, and over-due, bomb shell that we > are "not alone" shouldn't be long in coming now. --MS] I used to have this state of mind in which every time I saw something about the possibility of alien contact and more proof thereof, I thought that "they" were preparing to spill the beans. I have always been disappointed. I've always found that these programs never reveal as much as I've already surmised about the situation, or read elsewhere. These programs are geared toward people who don't participate in CTRL or other similar mailing lists. The top priority in most people's minds is the economy, education, health care and what they're having for supper each night. Unless a space ship drops out of the sky and lands in their back yard, they aren't going to be too concerned about it. The government and the media surely wonder why they should rock the boat during times when the economy is growing and people are making money. Of course, there are still many who have seen something in the sky, but they're still too afraid to come out with it for fear of being laughed at by their friends or colleagues. Luckily the internet is helping to bring these kinds of people together so they can realize that they're not so strange. Then again, we often reveal things online that we would never tell our next-door neighbor, much less our relatives. The unfortunate thing is that chances are I've probably spilled the beans to people I've talked to face-to-face--perhaps even some good friends, and I've almost certainly been read by a friend of one of my friends, and if we connected the dots, we'd surely find some consensus and bring these topics out of the internet and into face-to-face conversations. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Tonight on History Channel: "The Crop Circle Controversy"
-Caveat Lector- [I just saw the hyped-up trailer for this new episode of "Histories Mysteries," and it came off as though they have much new information that supports the paranormal origins of at least some crop formations (i.e., versus passing all crop formations off as world-wide frauds and hoaxes ALL perpetrated by two very elderly, and/or recently deceased, English country side farmers, as were the conclusions of several other recent made-for-TV documentaries, e.g., the recent idiotic B.B.C. presentation on crop circles, as well as the completely ludicrous recent U.S. treatment that was hosted by Judd Nelson). BTW, has anyone else noticed that the cable network, "Travel Network" (i.e., the channel that is usually dominated by vacation travel destination type shows) has been almost EXCLUSIVELY *serious* treatments of shows dealing with UFOs, ghost and haunting locales, and paranormal shows having about ZERO to do with TERRESTRIAL travel for the last few weeks!?!?!? Weird? Seems to me that this type thing is more than just network programmers, news media, advertisers, etc., just "answering the public's interest and desire" to see/hear/read of things related to ETs, etc. I figure the government announced, and over-due, bomb shell that we are "not alone" shouldn't be long in coming now. --MS] History's Mysteries "All New Show" Crop Circle Controversy Length: 60 min. An examination of crop circles in England and other countries. Category: Documentary Release Year: 2001 Show times: [Arizona time, i.e., 1 hour later than Pacific Time Zone. --MS] Date TimeChannel Monday, 29 6:00 PM 28 HISTORY CHANNEL Monday, 29 10:00 PM 28 HISTORY CHANNEL Tuesday, 30 2:00 AM 28 HISTORY CHANNEL = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
