[CTRL] FW: [CTRL] US 'poisoned Robeson' with mind-bending drug
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- >But it is shoddy reportage by The Sunday Times. And would that be The New York Sunday Times, The London Sunday Times, The Podunk Sunday Times or The Langley Sunday Times? There is only one Timesthe London Times of course (the times URl dont go directly to the piece, but here is the link to the magazine click on sunday times/ world) http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/home.html?1201011 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] US 'poisoned Robeson' with mind-bending drug
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/16/99 1:05:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>But it is shoddy reportage by The Sunday Times. > > >And would that be The New York Sunday Times, The London Sunday Times, The >Podunk Sunday Times or The Langley Sunday Times? My take was the London one. I gather one could check, it wasn't clarified in the original post. Om K DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- > think they mean the OSS, or think they made the whole thing up? Could be they tell a true tale but add one blatent falsehood to make us think the whole thing was bogus. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] US 'poisoned Robeson' with mind-bending drug
-Caveat Lector- >But it is shoddy reportage by The Sunday Times. And would that be The New York Sunday Times, The London Sunday Times, The Podunk Sunday Times or The Langley Sunday Times? DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] US 'poisoned Robeson' with mind-bending drug
-Caveat Lector- >No, but the file sure did. Make that files, plural. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] US 'poisoned Robeson' with mind-bending drug
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/15/99 8:10:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << The CIA didn't exist in 1943. >> No, but the file sure did. Prudy DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] US 'poisoned Robeson' with mind-bending drug
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/15/99 5:10:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>The CIA opened a file on Robeson in 1943. > > >The CIA didn't exist in 1943. Absolutely correct, I wonder if the correct agency was FBI or OSS or. . . ? But it is shoddy reportage by The Sunday Times. Om K DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] US 'poisoned Robeson' with mind-bending drug
-Caveat Lector- >The CIA opened a file on Robeson in 1943. The CIA didn't exist in 1943. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] US 'poisoned Robeson' with mind-bending drug
-Caveat Lector- Well, Robeson sang Old Man River; I still remember the jokes when Sinatra sang Old Man River. Now we know about the juke boxes and the old poem "we re the music makers, we are the dreamer of dreams; sitting by lone sea breakers, wandering by desolate streams - world movers and earth shakers.etc. etc". In October of 1963 all the juke boxes were playing Old Man River - but I played the flip side - The Steets of Laredo.over, and over, and over; and when JFK was gunned down in the streets of Dallas, I thought about it."beat the drums, roll the drums"I think of the white cowboy hat given to JFK, about the Mayor of Dallas who had a brother a deputy director of CIA. I thought years later after RFK, about John F. Kennedy walking the high hill to the Lee Memorial, stating "I could stay here forever", a line directly from the Psalms.and he looked into the valley below, to Arlington Cemetary where some weeks later he would be buried. Was the author of the book leaving a message; or did JFK as he read his very special bible on the way to Dallas - did he know he would not return to his house. Did he read any of the bibles in the hotel rooms placed by the Gideons, or did he ever hear the song Rocky Racoon. There was music in the air; nobody listened; a log of people did not question JFK's murder with red and white roses strewn about.but red roses lay in the President's car.why red roses - was this not the Yellow Rose of Texas. Who really suggested the route be changed by the Trade Mart that day; and how fortunate, Oswald got a job where he could take deadly aim along with another shooter when the target was at almost zero speed.who tolled the vesper bells...while Sagitarius the Archer, took deadly aim..who stole JFK's bible, this very special bible.why did the Chief of Police awake in the middle of the night and reach for his bible. Why did Jack Ruby repeat over and over again in his jail cell " Shadrach, Meschenk, and Abenego".and his little dog Sheba - but had he read "for where a testament is there must also of necessity be, the death of the testtor..." So, two men on a horseI always thought when one fell, another horseman would pickhim up to safetymy Kingdom for a Horse - also, it is safer to ride in pairs, is it not.. With the death of the witnesses, no trial would be forthcoming and the nation would be "spared" the misery of knowing what happend to their President that 22 day of November,1963when the Archer took its deadly aim, and the golden sun-god lay at its feet. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] US 'poisoned Robeson' with mind-bending drug
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/15/99 10:19:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Mike Miniccino, an MK-Ultra historian with contacts in American intelligence, said the argument that Robeson had been targeted by the CIA was "entirely plausible". The Russian doctors and his family kept his suicide attempt and depression a secret, claiming he had suffered a heart attack. But between April and June 1961 the FBI kept a "status of health" file on the artist which reveals that plans were made to prevent the world communist movement from exploiting his "imminent" death. "The fact that such a file was opened at all is sinister in itself," said Robeson Jr, 71, at his house in Brooklyn, New York, last week. "It indicates a degree of prior knowledge that something was about to happen to him." >\ Sounds pretty plausible to me too. Prudy DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] US 'poisoned Robeson' with mind-bending drug
-Caveat Lector- Sunday times March 14 1999 UNITED STATES US 'poisoned Robeson' with mind-bending drug by Tom Rhodes New York THE round of meetings, interviews and speeches had been strenuous but by the time he reached his Moscow hotel on a spring evening in 1961, Paul Robeson, the singer, actor and black American radical, was in unusually good spirits. He was planning to meet Fidel Castro in Cuba before returning to America to join the growing wave of civil rights activism led by Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. It was an exciting prospect. However, Robeson never made it to Cuba. After a surprise party in his hotel suite, he was hit by a sense of extreme paranoia and tried to kill himself by slashing his wrists. Three weeks later Cuban exiles led by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) landed in the island's Bay of Pigs in an unsuccessful attempt to overthrow Castro. This led to an international crisis that brought the world to the brink of nuclear war. On the surface, the two events appear unconnected. But now Robeson's son is blaming the CIA for the sudden deterioration in his father's health, from which the singer never fully recovered before his death in 1977. Paul Robeson Jr claims his father may have been poisoned by the agency to prevent what would have been a high-profile visit to Havana at the time of the American-backed invasion. He believes this was part of a wider plot to ensure that the charismatic activist never assumed his place in the vanguard of the civil rights movement. According to Robeson Jr, his father's symptoms at the time of the attempted suicide were identical to those produced by BZ, a mind-altering drug developed by intelligence agencies in Britain and America for use in a highly classified psychological warfare programme known as MK-Ultra. He says that at least two doctors who subsequently treated his father in London and New York had links to the programme. In an initiative that coincides with the centenary of Robeson's birth, the singer's son is making a formal approach to British, American and Russian intelligence organisations, demanding the release of classified documents relating to his father's visit to Moscow and medical treatment. Most people remember Robeson for his rich bass voice and songs such as Ol' Man River and Summertime that formed the core of his repertoire. In Britain he was also famous for his portrayal of Othello opposite the young Peggy Ashcroft's Desdemona - and the couple's controversial love affair. Robeson, however, was more than an actor and singer. He learnt more than 20 languages, including several African dialects, Chinese and Russian. He was also the first black man to be employed by a leading New York law firm. For intelligence agencies in America and Britain, Robeson's stature as an artist, combined with his increasingly radical politics, made him a serious threat. He was a close friend not only to American activists but also to leading lights of the colonial independence movement such as Jawaharlal Nehru and Jomo Kenyatta. As early as 1935, MI5 officers visited Robeson on the set of Sanders of the River, an Alexander Korda epic that was the first to feature a powerful black male star. The CIA opened a file on Robeson in 1943. At the end of the war his case was assigned to the agent directly responsible for covert operations. According to his son, Robeson had several close brushes with death in the next decade. In 1947, a car in which he was a passenger suddenly lost its left wheel and was found to have been sabotaged. He was a target of Senator Joseph McCarthy's 1950-54 anti-communist witch-hunt and, with the onset of the cold war, his politics effectively ended his mainstream musical and theatrical careers. Robeson Jr formed his theory about an attempt to "neutralise" his father in Moscow after more than 35 years of investigation and the gradual declassification of intelligence documents. A fluent Russian speaker, he has interviewed senior officials in Moscow, including the hosts of the surprise party - which appeared to have been filled with anti-Soviet dissidents. When he visited his father in hospital the day after the suicide attempt, the singer said he had felt trapped in a real-life "James Bond nightmare". The walls had seemed to undulate and everyone appeared hostile to the communist regime. He shut himself in his bedroom, suffering extreme depression and feelings of utter worthlessness - symptoms that can be induced by hallucinogenic drugs. Shortly afterwards he was admitted to the Priory hospital in London. Within 36 hours of his arrival, and against the advice of his Soviet doctors, Robeson was subjected to the first of 54 electro-convulsive shock therapy sessions. Mike Miniccino, an MK-Ultra historian with contacts in American intelligence, said the argument that Robeson had been targeted by the CIA was "entirely plausible". The Russian doctors and his family kept his suicide attempt and depression a se
