Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Unusual book]

1999-04-19 Thread Robert Tatman

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Gerry Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 I once came across (in Cambridge University Library, which allows you to
 browse its collection, unlike the Bodleian) a book called (I think) *The
 Rosicrucians*, by someone called Olive Wagner Driver, which argued (?)
 that all Elizabethan literary works of any note (with the sole exception
 of Jonson's) were produced by a cabal of noblemen, all illegitimate sons
 of Queen Elizabeth.  The _Faerie Queene_, for example, was the work of
 Leicester, her sixth son.  The book, I suspect, was 'donated by the
 author'-still, there's nothing like a little Looney-ness to brighten
 one's day.

 Peter Groves,
 Department of English,
 Monash University
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A quick check of Amazon.com yielded the following equally loony item...

Bacon, Shakespeare and the Rosicrucians
by W.F.C. Wigston
Our Price: $29.95


Paperback (March 1997)
Kessinger Publishing Company; ISBN: 156459338X
Availability: This title usually ships within 4-6 weeks. Please note that
titles occasionally go out of print or publishers run out of stock. We will
notify you within 2-3 weeks if we have trouble obtaining this title.
Amazon.com Sales Rank: 602,653
***
Book Description
Most mystical students know that Bacon was Shakespeare, and that he was the
Imperator (leader) of the Rosicrucian Order. This book proves this. Contents:
John Heydon; The Prophecy of Paracelsus; The Tempest; Venus and Adonis;
Freemasonry; Hermetic and Masonic Origins in the Plays; The Winter's Tale;
Bacon and Antiquity; Hamlet; Sonnets; and more. Discover the intrigue behind
this great emissary of the mystery schools. Essential for Freemasons and
Rosicrucians.


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[CTRL] Unusual book

1999-04-16 Thread Gerry Forbes

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Of course these days when they screw with the virgin queen
they're hoping for a kid named Oscar.


 Forwarded message 
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:29:47 -0500
From: "Hardy M. Cook" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SHK 10.0512  Re: THINKING, Feeling and Meaning, and Writing


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From:   Peter Groves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:52:55 +1100
Subject:Re: SHK 10.0493 Re: Acting, Feeling and Meaning, and Writing

The matter of being "well educated" depends on how you define that
term.  No, he didn't go to university, but from what evidence exists of
grammar schools, such as the one in Stratford, I doubt that many of my
current crop of undergraduates would have been able to hack it in that
educational environment.  Also, like many other intelligent people, then
and now, Shakespeare seems to have read widely (as has been noted in
some other recent postings).  Reading need not occur only in the
classroom.

Well said.  Incidentally, it is sometimes argued (more in the spirit of
a lawyer than a scholar) that no records survive of Shakespeare's
attendance at the grammar school, but the fact is that no records
survive of anyone's attendance there in that period.

And about whether there would be an authorship question...you're
probably right.  No one argues about whether Marlowe or Sidney wrote
those works which have been attributed to them.  Or maybe they do and I
just am not aware of it?  Information, anyone?

Karen Peterson-Kranz
University of Guam

I once came across (in Cambridge University Library, which allows you to
browse its collection, unlike the Bodleian) a book called (I think) *The
Rosicrucians*, by someone called Olive Wagner Driver, which argued (?)
that all Elizabethan literary works of any note (with the sole exception
of Jonson's) were produced by a cabal of noblemen, all illegitimate sons
of Queen Elizabeth.  The _Faerie Queene_, for example, was the work of
Leicester, her sixth son.  The book, I suspect, was 'donated by the
author'-still, there's nothing like a little Looney-ness to brighten
one's day.

Peter Groves,
Department of English,
Monash University

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