Re: [CTRL] Weird Medical Science

1999-09-11 Thread John Szocik

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This is part of the government's plan to cause enough hype about the
"dangers" of gun possession that the public would gladly support stricter
gun-control.   To the point of total dis-armement of the American public.
This is the ultimate plan of the government.

As far as suicides go, it doesn't take a genius to realize that this could be
accomplished by several alternative means.

In my opinion, it would be impossible to remove "every" gun from society. In
that respect, if everyone did possess a weapon, one would think twice before
attempting to use one on somebody if they thought for a minute that they may
be the one getting shot!

JOHN

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Re: [CTRL] Weird Medical Science

1999-09-11 Thread Bill

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Disarmament of America is THE LAST STEP to NWO
takeover...they saved it till last because A) it is going to
be the hardest to accomplish and probably won't be
pretty...and once its done the gig is up...it must be
handled adroitly to say the least, and B) because they could
take their own sweet time up to that point eroding liberties
and conditioning people with commercial programming.  Kill
Your TV.

John Szocik wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 This is part of the government's plan to cause enough hype about the
 "dangers" of gun possession that the public would gladly support stricter
 gun-control.   To the point of total dis-armement of the American public.
 This is the ultimate plan of the government.

 As far as suicides go, it doesn't take a genius to realize that this could be
 accomplished by several alternative means.

 In my opinion, it would be impossible to remove "every" gun from society. In
 that respect, if everyone did possess a weapon, one would think twice before
 attempting to use one on somebody if they thought for a minute that they may
 be the one getting shot!

 JOHN

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[CTRL] Weird Medical Science

1999-09-08 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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""The literature of modern medicine demands strict adherence to the rigors of
the scientific method: which includes strict intellectual honesty and integrity
and avoiding self-deception. ""

This is fine except how many times do the professionals indulge in activities
that would be best left on the drawing boards?  Of course, there are varieties
of ways -- to approach infinity -- for "practicing" medicine but at what point
do they become means of 'self-deception'  {"doing good", i.e.} or 'other-
deception' {giving hope when and where there might be little or none}.
Deification of the medical community to the point of acceptance by patients of
any and all treatments and procedures may approach the realm of the absurd.
There should be some sort of 'balance' yet the scales tip toward the 'provider'
rather than 'reason'.  The article below examines a result of the deification
of the medicoes ("e" Dan?) in another emotionally charged issue.  "'Cause the
doctor said so ?"  AER 


From NewsMax.CoM

 Scientific Misconduct By Physician Propagandists: A Perspective On Gun
 ViolenceMartin L. Fackler, MDSeptember 7, 1999



 ...learning how to not fool ourselves — of having utter scientific integrity —
 is, I'm sorry to say, something that we haven't specifically included in any
 particular course that I know of. We just hope you've caught on by osmosis.

 The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest
 person to foolI'm talking about a specific, extra type of integrity that
 is...bending over backwards to show how you're maybe wrong, that you ought to
 have when acting as a scientist. And this is our responsibility as scientists,
 certainly to other scientists, and I think to laymen.

 Surely You’re Joking Mr. Feynman
 (Feynman RP, New York, WW Norton, 1985, pp. 342-3)




 The above citation by Richard Feynman illustrates one of the rigors of the
 scientific method. Scientists who allow their intellect to be misled by their
 emotions fall into the trap of fooling themselves into isolating their
 preconceived strongly held desires and opinions from contradictory facts.

 When scientists allow themselves to be drawn into political agendas their
 heretofore rigorous scientific method is often replaced by a frenzy of
 fanaticism. Are they fooling themselves, or is this conscious fraud?.
 Distinguishing fraud from ignorance is often impossible, but whatever the
 motivation, the effect of the misinformation is equally deleterious. The public
 is most easily misled by political propaganda from highly respected sources.

 An extensive, carefully documented study by Kates DB, Schaffer HE, Lattimer JK,
 Murray GB, Cassem EH., Guns and Public Health: Epidemic of Violence or Pandemic
 of Propaganda? published in the Tennessee Law Review in 1995 (62(3):513-596)*
 tells a sad and shocking story.

 In the late 1970s, physicians from the American public health community
 apparently saw the opportunity for publicity (which helps to obtain funding) in
 the emotionally charged way the media presents, and dwells upon, violence
 involving firearms. Despite lacking expertise about firearms and their effects,
 and ignoring that crime (with or without guns) is clearly in the purview of the
 criminologist, these physicians declared gun violence an "epidemic,” and entered
 into a campaign to remove firearms from the hands of the citizens of the United
 States.

 To further this goal, these physicians allied themselves with anti-gun political
 lobbying organizations. Medical journals, including the Journal of the American
 Medical Association (JAMA), and the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM)
 became willing partners in this anti-gun advocacy. Most distressingly, the
 taxpayer-funded Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has also joined
 this medical anti-gun political cabal.

 Unfortunately, but not surprisingly, the resulting public health anti-gun
 advocacy literature is emotionally driven and lacks scholarly detachment.
 Prominent "researchers” openly admit an overwhelming "hate” of firearms – yet,
 contrary to the basic tenets of scientific method, they continue to do
 "research” on a subject about which their "hate” precludes rational evaluation.
 Grossly inaccurate hyperbole and failure to adhere to basic scientific method
 seem to "slip through” any editorial or peer review process — so long as it
 supports the anti-gun advocacy. And, when in print, these abuses are protected
 from the corrective effects of dissent and criticism – by editorial refusal to
 publish corrections (Fackler, ML. JAMA Writes Politically Correct Wound
 Ballistics History and Refuses to Publish Corrections Wound Ballistics Review
 1996;2[3]:44-45).

 Concrete examples of deception by half-truth, failure to address contrary data,
 selecting and manipulating data to validate preordained conclusions, falsifying
 references, fabricating statistics, overt fraud, and more, in the medical