[CTRL] Why do you do this to us?
-Caveat Lector- Counting Iraq's dead civilians By Jackson Thoreau Deep in the pit of Hell, Fatima Abdullah screams. Few hear her. Especially not the pilots in the U.S. and British jets that have been raining 2,000-lb. bombs, which obliterate everything within a football field upon impact, on Baghdad since Thursday. Especially not the U.S. generals who refuse to acknowledge the lives of kids like Fatehah Abdullah, Fatima Abdullahs eight-year-old son. Fatehah is dead, another victim in Bushs and Cheneys Blood for Oil, Inc. war. And Bush, Cheney and the generals that push this massacre could care less. Welcome to the New World Order. U.S. Commander Tommy Franks says they will not tabulate body counts, especially of Iraqis, in this war that is as illegitimate as Bushs claim to the White House. The bulk of the U.S. media will not report on civilian casualties, unless they are so large that even our corporate-and-Republican-controlled media cannot ignore them. But some of us will. I will. Fatehah Abdullah may just be eight years old. He may be Arab. But he counts for something in my book. Hes number 303. And that number of Iraqi civilians killed by our bombs continues to rise. Since the outbreak of the latest phase of the war for Iraqi oil and continued U.S. domination of the planet Wednesday, I have not slept much. I have paid little attention to the talking heads on CNN, who like to call themselves the most trusted name in news. CNN commentators lied once again about progressive film maker Michael Moore being booed off the Oscar stage Sunday. As the British news agency Reuters reported, many in the Hollywood crowd gave Moore a standing ovation as he issued his anti-Bush, anti-war remarks. Moore himself had this to say to reporters: Don't report that there was a split decision in the hall because five loud people booed. Maybe CNN is the most trusted name in the U.S. media to paint pictures the way the Bush administration wants them painted. I have concentrated on reading international media reports such as from Londons Guardian. I have read the reports from activists like Voices in the Wilderness Iraq Peace Team who put their lives on the line to try to protect Iraqis. I have scanned the reports from alternative media like the United Kingdoms Independent Media Centre. And Im here to tell you what Gen. Franks and CNN and Donahue-less MSNBC and others will not: More than 300 Iraqi civilians many of them children, as almost half of Baghdads population is under age 14 - have been killed by the U.S.-led massive aerial bombing campaign, as of early Tuesday. Many more will probably soon die in hospitals. At Al Kindi Hospital in Baghdad, Fatima Abdullah screamed, Why do you do this to us? to April Hurley, a physician and member of the Iraq Peace Team. Not only is one of her sons dead, but her four-year-old boy and two daughters were wounded by a missile that hit her uncle's home outside Baghdad, near a bridge targeted by U.S. bombers. Nada Adnan, a 13-year-old student at a high school for girls, is among those with deep wounds who must suffer in anguish without basic medicines that could at least give her some temporary relief from the pain. Cheneys oil company, Dallas-based Halliburton, could make millions supplying Iraq with oil equipment after the 1991 Gulf War. But relief workers could not ship basic medicines to Iraq because that violated the economic sanctions imposed by the UN on Husseins regime. To repeat: Cheneys company can make millions in oil deals, but Iraqi kids like Nada cannot get basic medicines. Want to talk precision bombing? Talk to Nahla Harbi, a passenger driving away from Baghdad with her two-year-old when a military school for boys was struck, causing her car to roll. She escaped with fractures in both legs. Her toddler suffered head injuries. Talk to the families of the five Syrians who died when a U.S. missile struck a Syrian passenger bus near the Iraqi border. Ten other passengers, most of whom were laborers working in Iraqi oil fields, were injured. One of the more ludicrous aspects of this war is how U.S. officials are crying foul when Iraq pulls a few tricks like pretend surrenders and putting POWs on television. Iraq is violating the Geneva Convention, U.S. officials say. These are the same officials who ignore international laws such as the UN charter that states one country cannot invade another without provocation or the blessing of the UN Security Council. These are the same officials who ignore international treaties like those governing nuclear weapons and global warming. So its unfair for Iraq to put prisoners on television or use civilians as soldiers or women and kids as shields? Tell me, whats fair about one side spending $400 billion annually on nuclear weapons, high-tech weapons, etc. and the other spending some $1.4 billion on scud missiles and other low-tech weapons after years of economic sanctions that has wracked its strength? Thats like
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-Caveat Lector- A serious question. The Iraqi leadership has brutalized its people for many years. Now it appeared to be on the verge of brutalizing the western world in connection with other powerful leaders outside of the Arab world. If the US had not taken the action did, what do you think the world and US situation would look like ten years from now and please justify your answer with some factual information. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jei Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Why do you do this to us? -Caveat Lector- Counting Iraq's dead civilians By Jackson Thoreau Deep in the pit of Hell, Fatima Abdullah screams. Few hear her. Especially not the pilots in the U.S. and British jets that have been raining 2,000-lb. bombs, which obliterate everything within a football field upon impact, on Baghdad since Thursday. Especially not the U.S. generals who refuse to acknowledge the lives of kids like Fatehah Abdullah, Fatima Abdullahs eight-year-old son. Fatehah is dead, another victim in Bushs and Cheneys Blood for Oil, Inc. war. And Bush, Cheney and the generals that push this massacre could care less. Welcome to the New World Order. U.S. Commander Tommy Franks says they will not tabulate body counts, especially of Iraqis, in this war that is as illegitimate as Bushs claim to the White House. The bulk of the U.S. media will not report on civilian casualties, unless they are so large that even our corporate-and-Republican-controlled media cannot ignore them. But some of us will. I will. Fatehah Abdullah may just be eight years old. He may be Arab. But he counts for something in my book. Hes number 303. And that number of Iraqi civilians killed by our bombs continues to rise. Since the outbreak of the latest phase of the war for Iraqi oil and continued U.S. domination of the planet Wednesday, I have not slept much. I have paid little attention to the talking heads on CNN, who like to call themselves the most trusted name in news. CNN commentators lied once again about progressive film maker Michael Moore being booed off the Oscar stage Sunday. As the British news agency Reuters reported, many in the Hollywood crowd gave Moore a standing ovation as he issued his anti-Bush, anti-war remarks. Moore himself had this to say to reporters: Don't report that there was a split decision in the hall because five loud people booed. Maybe CNN is the most trusted name in the U.S. media to paint pictures the way the Bush administration wants them painted. I have concentrated on reading international media reports such as from Londons Guardian. I have read the reports from activists like Voices in the Wilderness Iraq Peace Team who put their lives on the line to try to protect Iraqis. I have scanned the reports from alternative media like the United Kingdoms Independent Media Centre. And Im here to tell you what Gen. Franks and CNN and Donahue-less MSNBC and others will not: More than 300 Iraqi civilians many of them children, as almost half of Baghdads population is under age 14 - have been killed by the U.S.-led massive aerial bombing campaign, as of early Tuesday. Many more will probably soon die in hospitals. At Al Kindi Hospital in Baghdad, Fatima Abdullah screamed, Why do you do this to us? to April Hurley, a physician and member of the Iraq Peace Team. Not only is one of her sons dead, but her four-year-old boy and two daughters were wounded by a missile that hit her uncle's home outside Baghdad, near a bridge targeted by U.S. bombers. Nada Adnan, a 13-year-old student at a high school for girls, is among those with deep wounds who must suffer in anguish without basic medicines that could at least give her some temporary relief from the pain. Cheneys oil company, Dallas-based Halliburton, could make millions supplying Iraq with oil equipment after the 1991 Gulf War. But relief workers could not ship basic medicines to Iraq because that violated the economic sanctions imposed by the UN on Husseins regime. To repeat: Cheneys company can make millions in oil deals, but Iraqi kids like Nada cannot get basic medicines. Want to talk precision bombing? Talk to Nahla Harbi, a passenger driving away from Baghdad with her two-year-old when a military school for boys was struck, causing her car to roll. She escaped with fractures in both legs. Her toddler suffered head injuries. Talk to the families of the five Syrians who died when a U.S. missile struck a Syrian passenger bus near the Iraqi border. Ten other passengers, most of whom were laborers working in Iraqi oil fields, were injured. One of the more ludicrous aspects of this war is how U.S. officials are crying foul when Iraq pulls a few tricks like pretend surrenders and putting POWs on television. Iraq is violating the Geneva Convention, U.S. officials say. These are the same officials who ignore international laws
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-Caveat Lector- You ask us to predict a hypothetical future for 10 years to come and justify it with facts? You don't ask for much, do you? But for one thing, maybe International Law and sovereignity of nations would still be respected. Now, we can only rely on the force of arms and weapons of mass destructions to protect the people and nations on this planet from brutal business warriors and nutcases in charge of armies. As for the facts to support this conclusion, the US handling of North Korea vs US handling of Iraq are an excellent example. One is getting silk gloved treatment, while the other is going to be raped for all it's worth. I bet no WMDs will be found in Iraq, lest it says Made in USA or Israel, painted over with crosses and Irag stamped in place. As for the future we will experience, it is one of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and unlimited warfare for the reasons of business and making money, with total disregard for any treaties and laws. Anarchy, some might call it. But, it is explicitly clear that US and Bush co are keen on pissing on any and all treaties they don't like, and will keep on doing so if and when they can make fast profits for small numbers of people by doing so. On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Zuukie wrote: -Caveat Lector- A serious question. The Iraqi leadership has brutalized its people for many years. Now it appeared to be on the verge of brutalizing the western world in connection with other powerful leaders outside of the Arab world. If the US had not taken the action did, what do you think the world and US situation would look like ten years from now and please justify your answer with some factual information. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jei Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Why do you do this to us? -Caveat Lector- Counting Iraq's dead civilians By Jackson Thoreau Deep in the pit of Hell, Fatima Abdullah screams. Few hear her. Especially not the pilots in the U.S. and British jets that have been raining 2,000-lb. bombs, which obliterate everything within a football field upon impact, on Baghdad since Thursday. Especially not the U.S. generals who refuse to acknowledge the lives of kids like Fatehah Abdullah, Fatima Abdullahs eight-year-old son. Fatehah is dead, another victim in Bushs and Cheneys Blood for Oil, Inc. war. And Bush, Cheney and the generals that push this massacre could care less. Welcome to the New World Order. U.S. Commander Tommy Franks says they will not tabulate body counts, especially of Iraqis, in this war that is as illegitimate as Bushs claim to the White House. The bulk of the U.S. media will not report on civilian casualties, unless they are so large that even our corporate-and-Republican-controlled media cannot ignore them. But some of us will. I will. Fatehah Abdullah may just be eight years old. He may be Arab. But he counts for something in my book. Hes number 303. And that number of Iraqi civilians killed by our bombs continues to rise. Since the outbreak of the latest phase of the war for Iraqi oil and continued U.S. domination of the planet Wednesday, I have not slept much. I have paid little attention to the talking heads on CNN, who like to call themselves the most trusted name in news. CNN commentators lied once again about progressive film maker Michael Moore being booed off the Oscar stage Sunday. As the British news agency Reuters reported, many in the Hollywood crowd gave Moore a standing ovation as he issued his anti-Bush, anti-war remarks. Moore himself had this to say to reporters: Don't report that there was a split decision in the hall because five loud people booed. Maybe CNN is the most trusted name in the U.S. media to paint pictures the way the Bush administration wants them painted. I have concentrated on reading international media reports such as from Londons Guardian. I have read the reports from activists like Voices in the Wilderness Iraq Peace Team who put their lives on the line to try to protect Iraqis. I have scanned the reports from alternative media like the United Kingdoms Independent Media Centre. And Im here to tell you what Gen. Franks and CNN and Donahue-less MSNBC and others will not: More than 300 Iraqi civilians many of them children, as almost half of Baghdads population is under age 14 - have been killed by the U.S.-led massive aerial bombing campaign, as of early Tuesday. Many more will probably soon die in hospitals. At Al Kindi Hospital in Baghdad, Fatima Abdullah screamed, Why do you do this to us? to April Hurley, a physician and member of the Iraq Peace Team. Not only is one of her sons dead, but her four-year-old boy and two daughters were wounded by a missile that hit her uncle's home outside Baghdad, near a bridge targeted by U.S. bombers. Nada Adnan, a 13-year-old student