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-Caveat Lector- WONDERFU There should be such a display in EVERY city. We certainly see what has happened to America since 'they' have tried to remove every vestige of God. No one can object to words that say 'thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not covet, honor thy father and thy mother'. These are harmful, dangerous words? If someone thinks of killing you or yours do you not want them to remember these words? Crazy! The Court ruled that the 10 commandments could be displayed GOD BLESS JUDGE MOORE!! And I pity those who attempt to rise up against him. Fewer and fewer and fewer people are paying attention to what msnbc or the other liars think. CNN is finally catching on to this fact. On Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:05:58 -0400 thew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Alabama¹s Ten Commandments > Why there should be a wall between church and state > > > By Mitch Albom > SPECIAL TO MSNBC.COM > Aug 6 I love the Ten Commandments. I can recite them. > I don¹t > always succeed in obeying them, but I still try, and I think the > world would > be better if we all did. Having said that, I can still say this: The > Ten > Commandments do not belong in a state courthouse. But last week, in > Montgomery, Ala., they arrived in a big way. In the still of the > night, a 2 > 1/2-ton monument featuring the Ten Commandments was trucked in and > positioned in the rotunda of the state¹s judicial building. The > building is > home to, among other things, the Alabama State Supreme Court. > > >Go > >I am the highest legal authority in the state and I wanted it > there.¹ > ROY MOORE > Alabama State Supreme Court chief justiceROY MOORE > is the > chief justice. >He ordered the sculpture. >The next morning, he unveiled it in a small ceremony. ³May > this day,² > he declared, ³mark ...a return to the knowledge of God in our land.² >Wow. And I thought only Moses delivered the tablets. >When asked what gave him the right without even consulting > the > other Supreme Court justices to sneak a huge religious symbol into > a > clearly secular building, Moore, who helped pay for the sculpture, > said, ³I > am the highest legal authority in the state and I wanted it there.² >Hmm. He must have missed the Bible study on humility. > > JEFFERSON AND THE WALL¹ > > > > Do you approve of an Alabama judge's decision to put a monument > to the > Ten Commandments in the state judicial building? > Yes > No > Don't know > > > Voice your views on MSNBC.com's Religion and Ethics discussion > board. > Vote to see results Do you approve of an Alabama judge's > decision to > put a monument to the Ten Commandments in the state judicial > building? > * 2339 responses > Yes 27% > No 72% > Don't know 1% > Voice your views on MSNBC.com's Religion and Ethics discussion > board.Survey > results tallied every 60 seconds. Live Votes reflect respondents' > views and > are not scientifically valid surveys. > > Now, while I love and believe in the Ten Commandments, > Moore > is wrong to do what he did. Plain and simple. There is an accepted > separation between church and state in this country Thomas > Jefferson > demanded it be ³a wall.² >Any Hindu, Buddhist or atheist entering the Alabama Judicial > Building > could rightly be squeamish upon seeing the words ³I am the Lord, > your God² > or ³Honor the Sabbath and keep it holy.² >Which Lord? Which Sabbath? What if you don¹t believe in God? > Can you > feel confident about getting a fair hearing when a top judge has > hung his > religion on the door? >Judges are supposed to be impartial, quiet and blind in their > justice. But Moore told me, ³it¹s clear which god our forefathers > referred > to the God of the Scriptures.² Hmm. That sounds a lot more like > Sunday > morning than Monday through Friday. >OK. By now, you already have taken sides. Some will defend > Moore with > standard arguments: > Our forefathers were Christians. That¹s why they put ³in God we > trust² on > the money. >Actually, that¹s not true. Many of our forefathers were > deists. And > ³in God we trust² is a fairly modern addition to currency. > You get sworn in on a Bible. >Yes, and many people feel uncomfortable with that, too. > Separation of church and state is a myth. >Sorry. Not only did Jefferson use those exact words, but John > Adams, > the second president, said, ³The government of the United States is > not in > any sense founded on the Christian religion,² and James Madison > defended > ³the total separation of the church from the state.² > It¹s what the majority of Americans believe, so what¹s the problem? >Ah. Now we¹re getting somewhere. > > MORE WORDS FROM THE BIBLE >It is true, the largest percentage of religious Americans > believe in > the Ten Commandments. But with major
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Title: from msnbc Alabama¹s Ten Commandments Why there should be a wall between church and state By Mitch Albom SPECIAL TO MSNBC.COM Aug 6 I love the Ten Commandments. I can recite them. I don¹t always succeed in obeying them, but I still try, and I think the world would be better if we all did. Having said that, I can still say this: The Ten Commandments do not belong in a state courthouse. But last week, in Montgomery, Ala., they arrived in a big way. In the still of the night, a 2 1/2-ton monument featuring the Ten Commandments was trucked in and positioned in the rotunda of the state¹s judicial building. The building is home to, among other things, the Alabama State Supreme Court. Go I am the highest legal authority in the state and I wanted it there.¹ ROY MOORE Alabama State Supreme Court chief justice ROY MOORE is the chief justice. He ordered the sculpture. The next morning, he unveiled it in a small ceremony. ³May this day,² he declared, ³mark ...a return to the knowledge of God in our land.² Wow. And I thought only Moses delivered the tablets. When asked what gave him the right without even consulting the other Supreme Court justices to sneak a huge religious symbol into a clearly secular building, Moore, who helped pay for the sculpture, said, ³I am the highest legal authority in the state and I wanted it there.² Hmm. He must have missed the Bible study on humility. JEFFERSON AND THE WALL¹ Do you approve of an Alabama judge's decision to put a monument to the Ten Commandments in the state judicial building? Yes No Don't know Voice your views on MSNBC.com's Religion and Ethics discussion board. Vote to see results Do you approve of an Alabama judge's decision to put a monument to the Ten Commandments in the state judicial building? * 2339 responses Yes 27% No 72% Don't know 1% Voice your views on MSNBC.com's Religion and Ethics discussion board.Survey results tallied every 60 seconds. Live Votes reflect respondents' views and are not scientifically valid surveys. Now, while I love and believe in the Ten Commandments, Moore is wrong to do what he did. Plain and simple. There is an accepted separation between church and state in this country Thomas Jefferson demanded it be ³a wall.² Any Hindu, Buddhist or atheist entering the Alabama Judicial Building could rightly be squeamish upon seeing the words ³I am the Lord, your God² or ³Honor the Sabbath and keep it holy.² Which Lord? Which Sabbath? What if you don¹t believe in God? Can you feel confident about getting a fair hearing when a top judge has hung his religion on the door? Judges are supposed to be impartial, quiet and blind in their justice. But Moore told me, ³it¹s clear which god our forefathers referred to the God of the Scriptures.² Hmm. That sounds a lot more like Sunday morning than Monday through Friday. OK. By now, you already have taken sides. Some will defend Moore with standard arguments: Our forefathers were Christians. That¹s why they put ³in God we trust² on the money. Actually, that¹s not true. Many of our forefathers were deists. And ³in God we trust² is a fairly modern addition to currency. You get sworn in on a Bible. Yes, and many people feel uncomfortable with that, too. Separation of church and state is a myth. Sorry. Not only did Jefferson use those exact words, but John Adams, the second president, said, ³The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion,² and James Madison defended ³the total separation of the church from the state.² It¹s what the majority of Americans believe, so what¹s the problem? Ah. Now we¹re getting somewhere. MORE WORDS FROM THE BIBLE It is true, the largest percentage of religious Americans believe in the Ten Commandments. But with majority status comes a burden: being sensitive to the minority. A democracy works only if everyone is considered equal. You can¹t say, ³Well, most of us believe in one God, so tough on you.² That¹s the mentality our forefathers were running from when they came here. It is not, as some of the majority feel, a persecution of their faith. Actually, Justice Moore is doing a disservice to his religion. He is making faith a wedge between people, instead of leaving it where it belongs, in the hearts of the practitioners. No one can tell Jews and Christians not to believe. But Jews and Christians cannot tell others what to believe or to believe at all. Remember that the Ten Commandments never say ³Thou shalt convert others.² But the Bible does say, ³Judge carefully, for with the Lord there is no partiality.² That¹s in Chronicles, Justice Moore. But apparently not on your sculpture.
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