Re: [CTRL] hello, new girl, anyone else getting viruses around here?

2003-07-06 Thread Rowena Thursby
Title: Message
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Hello I'm new to this list. Have been having virus 
trouble since I joined. Wondered if anyone else is getting 
it? After 2 years of no viruses I am now getting about one a day - 
always the same title - "WORM_KLEZ.H" but different e-mail titles (the one today 
had my name - re:rowenathursby,so cool a flash, enjoy). My PC-Cillin 
anti-virus programme alerts me each time and I delete, but this is a pain I 
could do without. Anyone else getting 
this?

I like Icke's first books - And the Truth Shall set you free - is 
one I often refer to. What makes people think he's spreading 
disinformation? I know he's off-beam with the reptilian stuff but in the 
beginning, a lot of what he wrote seemed pretty sound to me,with the 
proviso thateverything you read needs 
corroboration.

Rowena (UK)

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ole 
  Gerstrm 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 7:47 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] Was Hitler A 
  Rothschild?
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  Dear Zuukie,
  
  David Icke is a thorough researcher. He has guts. His 
  productionis a breakthrough of magnitude.In your long ranting, you 
  have not proven one word wrong in his writings.
  
  Yours, Ole Gerstrom
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Zuukie 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 2:44 
AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Was Hitler A 
Rothschild?
-Caveat Lector- 

Caveat Lector 
sure fits anything coming out of a Icke site. It's obvious that no 
scholar is ever going to take the time to challenge that basket of bullshit 
because it's only disinformation served up for obvious deflecting 
purposes. There are only a limited number of people who care about 
what is going on in the cultural change. A certain number of newbies 
in this group will look atthe Icke material and assume that he has 
gone into depth with his research. That frees them from the 
responsibility of analyzing things on their own, that being the assumption 
that they can never find out more than Icke has already told 
them. It's in good hands, they feel, if it is in Icke's hands. 
Icke's books and tapes sell well in the New Age and Afrocentric 
bookstores. They emotionally support the "What have they done to me 
lately?" New Age, Afrocentric, and militia crowd who are too lazy to 
do any searches on their own, thinking that since they've found Icke's 
material that's all they need to do, and this is more than their neighbors 
have done. More important than Icke's rantings is finding out who is 
behind Icke and why they are using shovels to present their material? 
Come on Shannon. Tell us who is behind Icke and his disinformation 
promotion.

  
  -Original Message-TFrom: Conspiracy 
  Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  William ShannonSent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 5:35 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [CTRL] Was 
  Hitler A Rothschild?-Caveat Lector- http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/hitler.html
  WAS HITLER A ROTHSCHILD?by David Icke Official history is merely a veil to hide 
the truth of what really happened. When the veil is lifted, again and 
again we see that not only is the official version not true, it is often 
100% wrong. Take the Rothschilds, the bloodline formerly known, 
among other names, as the Bauers, one of the most notorious black occult 
bloodlines of Middle Ages Germany. It became known as Rothschild 
(red-shield or rotes-schild in German) in the 18th century when a 
financial dynasty was founded in Frankfurt by Mayer Amschel Rothschild 
working in league with the Illuminati House of Hesse and others. They 
took their name from the red shield or hexagram/Star of David on the 
front of their house in Frankfurt. The Star of David or Seal of Solomon 
is an ancient esoteric symbol and only became associated with Jewish 
people after the Rothschilds adopted it for themselves. It has 
absolutely no connection to "David" or "Solomon", as Jewish historical 
sources confirm. The Rothschilds are one of the top Illuminati 
bloodlines on the planet and they are shape-shifting reptilians (see The 
Biggest Secret). Guy de Rothschild, of the French House, heads 
this bloodline dynasty today. He is one of the most grotesque exponents 
of trauma-based mind control, indeed the top man according to many of 
those who have suffered mercilessly under his torture. I am always loath 
to use the world evil, but if evil is the reverse of live, Guy de 
Rothschild is thoroughly evil. He stands for the opposite of life. He 
has been personally responsible for the torture and death of millions of 
children and adults, either directly or 

Re: [CTRL] hello, new girl, anyone else getting viruses around here?

2003-07-06 Thread Mike Smith
Title: Message
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Not I... but if you happen to be on winmx 
downloading Noam Chomsky Manufacturing Consent VCD 1/3 (500 or so megs) 
watch out my antivirus blocked it out.(forget which 
virus)...3/3is clean...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rowena Thursby 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 10:04 
AM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] hello, new girl, 
  anyone else getting viruses around here?
  -Caveat Lector- 
  
  Hello I'm new to this list. Have been having virus 
  trouble since I joined. Wondered if anyone else is getting 
  it? After 2 years of no viruses I am now getting about one a day - 
  always the same title - "WORM_KLEZ.H" but different e-mail titles (the one 
  today had my name - re:rowenathursby,so cool a flash, enjoy). My 
  PC-Cillin anti-virus programme alerts me each time and I delete, but this is a 
  pain I could do without. Anyone else getting 
  this?
  
  I like Icke's first books - And the Truth Shall set you free - 
  is one I often refer to. What makes people think he's spreading 
  disinformation? I know he's off-beam with the reptilian stuff but in the 
  beginning, a lot of what he wrote seemed pretty sound to me,with the 
  proviso thateverything you read needs 
  corroboration.
  
  Rowena (UK)
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Ole 
Gerstrm 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 7:47 
AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Was Hitler A 
Rothschild?
-Caveat Lector- 



Dear Zuukie,

David Icke is a thorough researcher. He has guts. His 
productionis a breakthrough of magnitude.In your long ranting, 
you have not proven one word wrong in his writings.

Yours, Ole Gerstrom

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Zuukie 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 2:44 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] Was Hitler A 
  Rothschild?
  -Caveat Lector- 
  
  Caveat 
  Lector sure fits anything coming out of a Icke site. It's obvious 
  that no scholar is ever going to take the time to challenge that basket of 
  bullshit because it's only disinformation served up for obvious deflecting 
  purposes. There are only a limited number of people who care about 
  what is going on in the cultural change. A certain number of newbies 
  in this group will look atthe Icke material and assume that he has 
  gone into depth with his research. That frees them from the 
  responsibility of analyzing things on their own, that being the assumption 
  that they can never find out more than Icke has already told 
  them. It's in good hands, they feel, if it is in Icke's hands. 
  Icke's books and tapes sell well in the New Age and Afrocentric 
  bookstores. They emotionally support the "What have they done to me 
  lately?" New Age, Afrocentric, and militia crowd who are too lazy to 
  do any searches on their own, thinking that since they've found Icke's 
  material that's all they need to do, and this is more than their neighbors 
  have done. More important than Icke's rantings is finding out who is 
  behind Icke and why they are using shovels to present their 
  material? Come on Shannon. Tell us who is behind Icke and his 
  disinformation promotion.
  

-Original Message-TFrom: Conspiracy 
Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
William ShannonSent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 5:35 
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [CTRL] Was 
Hitler A Rothschild?-Caveat Lector- http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/hitler.html
WAS HITLER A ROTHSCHILD?by David 
  Icke Official history is 
  merely a veil to hide the truth of what really happened. When the veil 
  is lifted, again and again we see that not only is the official 
  version not true, it is often 100% wrong. Take the 
  Rothschilds, the bloodline formerly known, among other names, as the 
  Bauers, one of the most notorious black occult bloodlines of Middle 
  Ages Germany. It became known as Rothschild (red-shield or 
  rotes-schild in German) in the 18th century when a financial dynasty 
  was founded in Frankfurt by Mayer Amschel Rothschild working in league 
  with the Illuminati House of Hesse and others. They took their name 
  from the red shield or hexagram/Star of David on the front of their 
  house in Frankfurt. The Star of David or Seal of Solomon is an ancient 
  esoteric symbol and only became associated with Jewish people after 
  the Rothschilds adopted it for themselves. It has absolutely no 
  connection to "David" or "Solomon", as Jewish historical sources 
  confirm. The Rothschilds are one of the top Illuminati bloodlines on