Re: [CTRL] question: Re Northern Alaska

2004-06-09 Thread Eric Stewart
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If we had to rely on oil drilled here, we might be a little more prone to
using less as we wade in its muck.

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Quoting William Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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 This question refers specifically to Northern Alaska where tremendous
 oil
 and gas reserves are located. This area is artic wasteland for at least
 nine months out of the year, the wildlife there are able to survive the
 horribly cold winter. Could someone explain how development of the oil
 and natural gas resources possibly affect the wildlife in Northern
 Alaska?

  There is an existing oil production operation at
 Prudhoe
 bay(Check my energy web page at A
 HREF=http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Energy.html; My Energy web
 page/A) with no evidence of negative effect on the wildlife
 population,
 in fact the elk population has actually increased!

 So what's the basis of the alleged fear that the wildlife population
 would be negatively affected? Remember, this is the basis the self
 appointed environmental militants are using to
  deny the United States badly needed oil and gas resources which would
 under the political control of the United States not somebody in the
 volatile middle east. Could this simply be a pre-text for a hidden
 agenda?
 If not, why not?





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[CTRL] question: Re Northern Alaska

2004-06-03 Thread William Bacon
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This question refers specifically to Northern Alaska where tremendous oil
and gas reserves are located. This area is artic wasteland for at least
nine months out of the year, the wildlife there are able to survive the
horribly cold winter. Could someone explain how development of the oil
and natural gas resources possibly affect the wildlife in Northern
Alaska?

 There is an existing oil production operation at Prudhoe
bay(Check my energy web page at A
HREF=http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Energy.html; My Energy web
page/A) with no evidence of negative effect on the wildlife population,
in fact the elk population has actually increased!

So what's the basis of the alleged fear that the wildlife population
would be negatively affected? Remember, this is the basis the self
appointed environmental militants are using to
 deny the United States badly needed oil and gas resources which would
under the political control of the United States not somebody in the
volatile middle east. Could this simply be a pre-text for a hidden agenda?
If not, why not?





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Re: [CTRL] question: Re Northern Alaska

2004-06-03 Thread Prudy L
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The elk population is increasing in Alaska, because the idiots are shooting the wolves from helicopters so that the tourist hunters will be able to get an elk without having to work hard. As for the oil business coexisting with wild life, it doesn't have to be a problem, but the oil business is run by greedy slobs who do not take care with their procedures or their product. It costs a little money to be sure that everything is done neatly and timed correctly. Look at the mess the pipeline is. Look at the tundra that used to be where it is. Think about it. If a banker put his and your money in a big slide, piped it somewhere and loaded it into ships and tankers without any special care, and some (sometimes a lot) of the money just fell into the water or where ever it happened to be at the time, you'd think he was a moron. Well oil seems to be everywhere doesn't it? Ships that should be scrapped are transporting that precious product everywhere, going aground, and sometimes sinking. Don't worry about having to double hull them to keep from more Exxon disasters. Bush the First made sure that the oil boys didn't have to spend that kind of money in the interest of the environment, and I'm sure that Bush the Second has done lots of kind things for the same oil boys that we don't even know about. Besides it's sour crude. The oil boys aren't really too crazy about theidea of having to refine it. Theyjust want to sell it to Japan. Prudy 
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