Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] What's Really Causing Gulf War Illness?]
-Caveat Lector- Edwina, This is wonderful ews for me!! I get two journals on this with very little mention of these developments. This is so advanced over my material. Came at just the right time as this has been devastating this week. I really thought it was gone this time and it comes back. Thank youso much for taking the time to help. This just may work (good chance) and it also gives hope to us dealing with this!! I woder if others on this list have their own ideas of how they came to have this, especially CFS.. Fibro is arthritic but CFS remains a puzzle. I had the full Epstein-Barre virus when first diagnosed but not all peope w/CFS do. Any theories? What could be the link? Is it exposure to soething. What have I done wrong if it was gone and now is back? Sooo many questions ao few answers! Amelia DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] What's Really Causing Gulf War Illness?]
-Caveat Lector- I was diagnosed in 1996 with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome then a year later with fibromyalgia, a painful tendon/ligament kind of thing. Fortunately, I am mch, much better. I have the routine information on this but new things like this I would really like to have. I fear it will come back one day and it was awful. I have thought about flu vaccines as a possilbe cause or maybe even gamma globulin. I think I am OK now but t was devastating and probably had a great deal to do with my marriage falling apart at that time. I know several people who did not recover. Some never do. Cher, Roblert Blake and several Hollywood types have had it. Cher recovered, RB didn't. Anyway, send me anything NEW you run across. I want to help anybody who still has it. Amelia DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- weve discussed fibromyalgia on the abinfo list too, amelia---they may have some good info for u liz DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Go back to Legionnaires Diseaseremember the "Swine Flu Shots' and something wrong with serum. My son had a new strain of meningitus, and I did plenty of research. This was 1974; however, as mentioned previously anthrax and meningitus...Pathology of Disease (well that was the book at the hospital) when you looked up meningitus, it said "See Anthrax"...and my doctor came in thelibrary and took the book from me. At that point in time I had information then from Federal Government which stated (and I am going from memory here and spelling is off) that some of the polio shots, etc., which are alleged to be MANDATORY cause the menges of the brain to become swollen, and other stuff happens. So as our blood supply, was some of this serum used poisoned or not fit for use. Gerald Ford had to take the shot with picture in paper about this time, promoting the "swine flu" innoculation which also carried with it the Victoria innoculation; now the term swine flu is insulting enough, is it not? My name is Legion; for we are many - the disease enters into the swine, who in turn PANIC and run to the sea, and die - like a bunch of lemmings.now, tis is innocent enough, but when you have in your possession a calendar - a bible code calendar - keyed date wise to above, it looks very suspect. The outbreaks of the meningitus then, were primarily at two different air bases; when I sat in the hospital with my two year old, a man from the USAF came into my room, and stood and looked at him - I must add, then members of an outlaw gang of motorcyclists were also placed beside my son, and the women would come in like a bunch of banshees and knock the IV around, and harass me - their son had "cat fever", they said. Security took care of this problem...but I always wanted to know more about tis group So you see, with some of this germ warfare comes further surveillance even into a two year old's hospital room. What was going on then; and what is going on now. And remember, Aquired Immune Deficiency began with the Blood Banks.and now, blame on the homosexual community for its spread. Now why do you suppose over 20 years later certain members of the military are refusing to be innoculated against anthrax, which is a form of meningitus. Who murdered Angola.who is murdering the children over the world in the name of humanitywho created the genocide - and the census is coming up. I have my own religion - and I do know that I can see the endoften anything in between is a wastebetter wake up and defend your rights now. Has Clinton been backed into a corner; or as Yeltsin - he sobered up and lost his kingdom; Clinton wised up too late, and lost the respect of a nation...what more is there we do not knowandn is e being blackmailed? Hiliary Clinton for Senate - you got to be kidding. The secret service would go on strike with that one. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] What's Really Causing Gulf War Illness?]
-Caveat Lector- www.immed.org You will find many articles on the connection between CFIDS and Gulf War illnesses at Dr. Nicolson's site. Also, George Hylack of the Cooley Law School has done a lot of work, and written a long paper on mycoplasmas in the civilian population. This should get you started. Edwina DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] What's Really Causing Gulf War Illness?]
-Caveat Lector- -- From: Amelia Kay Edgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] What's Really Causing Gulf War Illness?] Date: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 2:09 AM -Caveat Lector- I was diagnosed in 1996 with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome then a year later with fibromyalgia, a painful tendon/ligament kind of thing. Fortunately, I am mch, much better. I have the routine information on this but new things like this I would really like to have. I fear it will come back one day and it was awful. I have thought about flu vaccines as a possilbe cause or maybe even gamma globulin. I think I am OK now but t was devastating and probably had a great deal to do with my marriage falling apart at that time. I know several people who did not recover. Some never do. Cher, Roblert Blake and several Hollywood types have had it. Cher recovered, RB didn't. Anyway, send me anything NEW you run across. I want to help anybody who still has it. Amelia Amelia, My step mother has fibromyalgia and has chronic pain. If you have come across any methods that have helped you with the pain I would love to pass them onto her. Thanks, Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om