Re: [CTRL] [political-research] Straw fuels fear of rift between EU and US

2003-12-01 Thread Sean McBride
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I take this development as further proof 
that Bush and the neocons are destroying America's relations with the entire 
world, including all of Europe (not just "Old Europe").

From the standpoint of American interests, 
history will judge the Bush administration to be the most disastrous in 
history. Bush is a force for pure destruction. It will be impossible 
for anyone to fix what he has broken.

Israel, and its satellite, the U.S., are 
on a violent collision course with the entire planet. Sharon, and his 
puppet, Bush, are terrorism-creating machines without peer. Increasingly 
the rest of the world wants nothing to do with us.

The more the errors of the necons are 
exposed, the more frenetically they redouble their 
fanaticism.

The Democratic Party is utterly useless in 
dealing with this problem. Hillary Clinton just revealed herself to be 
"Bush Lite" when she urged Americans to "stay the course" in Iraq. She, 
like all theother leading Democrats,is dependent for her political 
survival on the financial generosity of closet Greater Israelists and Israel 
Firsters who are determined to push the U.S. into Joseph Lieberman's "global 
religious war" (the neocons'/neolibs' World War IV).

Pretty much all we can do is stand back 
and watch the U.S. go permanently downhill, as it is turned into a permanent 
paranoid garrison state, at war with the entire world.


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  fear of rift between EU and US
  
  http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/11/30/wnato30.xmlsSheet=/news/2003/11/30/ixnewstop.html/news/2003/11/30/wnato30.xmlJack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, fuelled fears of 
  a transatlantic rift over the European Union's defence policy yesterday 
  when he refused to reveal how Washington had reacted to news of a 
  controversial deal struck by Britain, France and Germany. http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$LVCCAHVYF0CLLQFIQMFCFFWAVCBQYIV0?xml=/news/2003/11/29/weu29.xmlIt is believed that Colin Powell, the US secretary 
  of state, telephoned two European foreign ministers on Friday seeking 
  urgent clarification of the deal, which will allow the EU to conduct its 
  own military operations independently of Nato.The plan will also 
  be discussed by Nato defence and foreign ministers at meetings in Brussels 
  this week, where critics are expected to include Donald Rumsfeld, the 
  hawkish US defence secretary.Mr Straw spoke to Mr Powell on Thursday, 
  the day after the deal was struck in Berlin, but said his response would 
  have to remain one of the "secrets of the confessional".He refused 
  to be drawn on whether the Bush administration was willing to back the 
  plan. "There is a process of discussion to take place with our American 
  colleagues and with other partners in Nato," he said.One Nato 
  diplomat, however, had already warned that the proposal - broadly welcomed 
  by other EU foreign ministers meeting in Naples - was a "Trojan horse" 
  that could undermine the transatlantic alliance.Senior Washington 
  officials are concerned that the EU taking on an independent defence role 
  will weaken Nato, the cornerstone of Western defence for more than 50 
  years.Earlier this month, President George W. Bush said that he 
  trusted Tony Blair to "make the right decision" on EU 
  defence.Yesterday, Mr Straw insisted that the plan would not weaken 
  Nato. "The conclusion that we reached last night was one in which Nato is 
  accepted as the alliance par excellence of all participating member 
  states, the prime means by which we guarantee each other's mutual 
  defence," he said.Any EU defence activities would be "complementary" 
  to the alliance.Michael Ancram, the shadow foreign secretary, said: 
  "This is a sell-out by Tony Blair. I think George Bush will be very angry 
  and upset by this deal. They promised the Americans there would be no 
  planning capability outside Nato. But that is what they have 
  agreed."Mr Ancram said he had warned President Bush about the 
  initiative during his recent meeting with Michael Howard, the Conservative 
  leader."President Bush told us that Tony Blair had assured him it 
  would not undermine Nato. He said, 'I trust him and therefore I am not 
  listening to you'. I think he will see this vindicates what we were 
  saying," said Mr Ancram.EU diplomats said that the defence plan, 
  described by Dominique de Villepin, France's foreign minister, as "a 
  breakthrough", would see a skeleton staff of about 30 "operational 
  planners" established alongside an existing strategic planning unit in 
  Brussels.They would be put to work whenever the EU decided to deploy 
  its own military force.Nato 

Re: [CTRL] [political-research] Straw fuels fear of rift between EU and US

2003-12-01 Thread Prudy L
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In a message dated 12/1/2003 12:03:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Israel, and its satellite, the U.S., are on a violent collision course with the entire planet. Sharon, and his puppet, Bush, are terrorism-creating machines without peer. Increasingly the rest of the world wants nothing to do with us.

The more the errors of the necons are exposed, the more frenetically they redouble their fanaticism.
I can't imagine anything Straw would like better. The neo-cons remind me of controller husbands. You know, the guys who get married to some poor woman and then see to it that she is alienated from her friends and her relatives as soon as they can manage it. Prudy
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