Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
-Caveat Lector- "chill" ... say what ...??? Maybe you need a shot at the bar yourself ... ??? Anyhow ... apparently Bush, prior to his big booze "bust," got a tad pissed whilst havin' a few toasts with an Aussie Tennis Legend ... so, i figure the guy can't be all THAT BAD !!! At least he seems to be more of a down-to-earth character than his opponent. Gore on the other hand, appears to strut the stage like he's dragging a pineapple of sizable dimension betwixt his rectal passage. BTW - i don't have my Rosetta Stone with me today, nor the Cipher Key, so I have no idea what all the other crypto stuff is about ... in the rest of your post ... ??? The media over this way ... seem to be in favour of Gore ... i can't see that a Bush "win," is a foregone ... anyone's guess really ... "lesser of two evils" is still the only real option being given ... imo ... Bush seems the better choice, lower taxes and more of a peacemaker ... but the press influence certainly appears to be behind Gore. Anyhow ... by the time this e-mail surfaces ... you Yanks will probably know the outcome and have a winner ... the more things change, the more they stay the same. Hmmm ... now where's that Fosters ... ??? BRP!!! - Original Message - From: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest -Caveat Lector- Please, chill, there is no need to shout and . . . what do you know of Bush "baby?" And this list is not about the election. But dunna worry, the "odds" are if your "favor." Thanks Om K In a message dated 11/2/00 7:09:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BUSH SOUNDS LIKE THE BETTER CANDIDATE ... I'M NOT THAT PRIVY TO US POLITICS ... BUT FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, AND READ ... IF ONE HAD TO CHOOSE THE "LESSER OF TWO EVILS," WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE GAME PLAN ANYWAY ... YOU'D HAVE TO GO WISH BUSH ... SURELY??? - Original Message - From: Eagle 1 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest So what if Gore lied, or Bush lied... about ANYTHING... ??? (Maybe they both wear pantyhose? Has either lied about this yet? Heck, what brand do they use??? THAT would be more useful information). A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance not soap-boxing please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory' with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
-Caveat Lector- the man is an alcoholic... It is not fair to say he was an alcoholic. If you are an alcoholic who doesn't drink anymore, then you are just a recovering alcoholic. While he was drinking and driving Gore was running for office...and Nader was pressuring for legislation that would save lives... it's called leading by example... 12xu out -Original Message- From: gandalf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 3:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest -Caveat Lector- What I what to know what is the big deal that Bush had a DUI 24 years ago. To me that is ancient history and has no bearing on how he is acting today. He could not be any worse then Clinton and Gore. So let us stay with the issues at hand. __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
-Caveat Lector- From: "Bob Stokes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clinton is not responsible for the economy, Greenspan is the one person most responsible for the economy. This "booming economy" is booming for those wealthy enough to be in the top 10% or so on the economic scale, those of us less fortunate are actually loosing buying power. The reason the GNP is growing is because the rich are getting richer, not because poorer folks are making a better living as the clinton bunch would like you to think, finding facts about that is very easy ... Specifically the fact that since 1993, a large population of skilled workers have been 'downsized', and are now forced to work temporary and/or part-time jobs -- and usually more than one job just to make ends meet -- that provide little or no benefits like medical insurance or paid sick leave. But because they are employed, the administration uses this to claim we have a booming economy with low unemployment. What they aren't reporting is the huge increase in under-employment. It is a smoke and mirrors trick. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
-Caveat Lector- From: "Terry" [EMAIL PROTECTED] But then that's Ok cause we keep getting these Fast Food Restaurants on every street corner for job security. Same scenario in New England. I've been wondering whether the reason unemployment stats are so good is, besides them cooking them for political and public consumption, that this younger workforce is on welfare, disability and/or sheltered work programs. It would be easy to take them out of the workforce calculation, or into it, as needed and whenever needed. Like those trust fund IOU's. Well, I can tell you how they are now handling it in Connecticut. It used to be that if you were collecting unemployment, but worked at a job (even part time) that paid you more than your weekly unemployment allotment, you were still kept on the books, still had to report your status weekly. In otherwords, the Unemployment Commission wasn't paying you anything because you had earned more than the Commission allowed, but you were still on the books as 'unemployed'. This took into consideration the fact that many people take temporary or part-time work just to get their foot in a door of a company, in hopes that perhaps they will eventually be hired on as full-time employees; or just that often-times one can get a part-time job that pays more than what unemployement gives out. Now, if you report earnings over your weekly allotment for four weeks in a row, you are now automatically removed from the books. So people who are getting by with a part-time job that just happens to pay them a little over what unemployment was paying are now reported as 'employed'...and hence, we now are presented with a rosy picture of 'full employment', ignoring the fact that many of the people who are reported as being employed are working part-time, sometimes multiple part-time jobs just to make ends meet. Or they are working as temps. Both types of 'employment' pay a fraction of what full-time, permanent positions would pay, and offer little, if any, benefits. But it is an economic boom for the big companies, who don't have to pay the salaries and cost of benefits to maintain a full-time workforce of employees. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
-Caveat Lector- This has many of the current items on Bush and DUI is a very small part. This page will be updated again later today. http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/index.htm gandalf wrote: -Caveat Lector- What I what to know what is the big deal that Bush had a DUI 24 years ago. To me that is ancient history and has no bearing on how he is acting today. He could not be any worse then Clinton and Gore. So let us stay with the issues at hand. Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson brbr My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competition there. - Indira Gandhi http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 NEW http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/site_map.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
-Caveat Lector- On 4 Nov 00, at 2:00, Bob Stokes wrote: Do you really think some dumb asshole like Clinton is responsible for this "booming economy?" YES!!! BTW, is that defined as a 'loaded question'? }}} ANOMALOUS RADIO {{{ - Techno, Ambient, Talk (33k+) http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=anomalous }}} RADIO ANOMALY {{{ - Techno, Ambient, Jazz (Cable, DSL) http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=stevew168 Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
-Caveat Lector- At least Clinton/Gore balanced the budget for a change, as opposed to 300 Billion + deficits and sluggish economy during the Reagan/Bush years. Carter was too blind to figure out the future effects of inflation. We bit the bullet for a couple years until we had a run of prosperity. Now we have an booming economy, Yes and a budget surplus. Heh heh heh... I.O.U.'s I guess some would like to return to the failed ways of the past. Get a few hundred more dollars back from a tax cut, Clinton either lied, told us what we wanted to hear or didn't know what the hell he was promising us. I think it was all of the former. I curious as to where all this money is coming from with all these new programs Gore is promising us. with higher interest rates, Didn't Greenspan hike interest rates a while back??? higher unemployment, Well we've got alot of jobs...too bad they don't pay spit. soaring medical costs, etc. Heh heh heh...evidently you haven't looked at your paycheck stub recently or don't have any hospitalization. Mine increases 50 cents per hour next week and they informed us it will go up another 20 cents per hour next June. Just give the big companies a big tax break and everything will be ok! I think you are dreaming... You're gonna have to get back in this reality. Something has to be done here. In Michigan we've had a bustling economy but...in our local area alone we've lost a General Motors Plant 8000 workers, most of the production facilities at Kellogg's Cereals, we had a Monsanto merger with Pharmacia/Upjohn with over 2000 jobs lost and we're waiting on the rumored American Home Products buyout/merger where they buyout and trash what they don't want. But then that's Ok cause we keep getting these Fast Food Restaurants on every street corner for job security. I remember when James Blanchard (democrat) was last Governor here, things seemed peachy until our 16 billion dollar debt caught up with us. John Engler(republican) found the "books were cooked" cleaned up the debt and put us on a surplus. We could have a rude awakening if Bush gets in and has a bunch of "Pro's" sort through the books that were handled by Clinton's Cronie's. Bush is smart enough to surround himself with qualified professionals and not "good old buddies". I still like to say I'm non-partisan but enough is enough. We need a little bit of both but it's time to get a republican in there to sort through it all and see what we've really got. Gore's making too many promises and trying to be too many things to too many people just like Clinton did. He's telling us what we want to hear. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
-Caveat Lector- I have just a few problems with this DUI story. One, Dubya's verbal evasions refer to it only as the "mistakes" made in his "youth." Despite the fact that, as we get older, we tend to see all significantly younger people as "young," I think most people, myself included, don't include age 30--the age at which Dubya drank and drove (and got caught, because if he got caught once, statistics say he did it a hundred times more) in the concept of "youth." Gosh, those "youngsters" are usually thought of as teenagers. I think we need to investigate the Texas troupers' records of later years--including arrests that Daddy Bush had wiped--rather than just reacting to this one report. Second, Bush has said he stopped drinking '14 years ago"--which would make him 40--10 years AFTER the arrest. He says of the arrest "I learned my lesson!" but apparently the learning took 10 years to sink in. In between times, he appears to have been adrinkin' and adrivin', and just not atellin' Ole Daddy Bush. If dumbbell Dubya is elected, and it takes him ten years to learn a lesson, he'll be out of office before he "larns his lesson!" if he makes mistakes that cause disaster to the country wrong-headed enough to elect him. Why is this important? For one thing, WHERE ARE THE MOTHERS AGAINST DRUNK DRIVERS--MADD--IN THIS DISCUSSION? HOW HAVE THEY BEEN SILENCED? Presently, drinking and driving is viewed as a heinous and irresponsible crime. In California, where I live, ONE DUI ARREST ( at only .08 blood alcohol--Dubya's was .12--half again as high) will cost drivers automatic license revocation for three months, AND they need to go to behaviorial school, AND they get mopped through the court system for a year, the insurance company cancels them and they need special insurance policies. 'Two friends told me ruefully that their (first and only) DUIs cost them $10,000 apiece. Jail is also a possibility for the judge to impose. Why aren't these "concerned mothers" speaking up? Have they been either bought off--or terrorized into silence--by Dubya's campaign coerscion specialists? Parallel question: what about Dubya's compulsive tastes for cocaine? WHERE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SOLD IT TO HIM WHERE ARE ALL THE ACQUAINTANCES WHO KNEW DAMN WELL WHAT HE WAS DOING!!! Same question: by what strongarm methods have THEY been silenced during the election? The first election I remember directly is the 1960 one, Kennedy vs. Nixon. Every election from that one forward has eloquently demonstrated that each side plays dirty pool; I cheerfully admit that the political process largely disgusts me. Yet I cannot EVER remember a candidate so OBVIOUSLY DERELICT, lamebrained, owned-by-conniving-corporate-interests and MOTIVATIONALLY AND INTELLECTUALLY unqualified as Bush is. I can only assume that the largescale corporate ownership of the media has put a blockade between the truth about this degenerate scumbag and the public's need to know, and a falsifying spin on every embarassing fact that nevertheless manages (as this DUI story did) to escape the censorship barricade. I only wish all the mothers and neighborhood activists who scream so loudly against "drunk drivers!" and "protecting our children against drugs!" would scream now. Jenny Decker - Original Message - From: "Eagle 1" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest -Caveat Lector- Steve W, Perhaps I should have been more specific... I meant, a problem involving **drinking and driving**, that precipitated your 24 year old report of DUI arrest, which is the topic of this thread of discussion. Also, he [Bush] says he hasn't been under the influence of demanding alcohol in 14 years. That's quite a while ago. Fourteen years is plenty of time to "get over it". So what's your point??? He got the rehab he needed, obviously... and does not still have the problem, so he says. WHY beat a dead horse? The subject is moot at this point. This kind of political mud slinging is exactly what I do not understand about the 'new democrats', i.e... bringing up stuff that happened "x" many years ago, as if it is still the problem today. I know many people who are quote **FORMER** alcoholics and function just fine in their jobs today, successfully, without a drink even under stress. I also know many who have previously had some psychological problems, but, again, function normally and without problems today. Everyone tells the person who needs help to go to rehab. They go, and are rehabilitated, or rehabilitate themselves, yet everyone still points and accuses as though the problem still exists. What's your point? except to attempt to defamate the candidate you see as least fit. I reiterate, it
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
Whatever, Bill, FYI, I don't watch much TV at all. Don't have time for it. IF and when I do watch TV, I'm usually watching a rented movie or a prime movie channel. I get my news, online, as I hate the forcedcommercials, and nearly refuse to watch TV because of the marketing circus. My TV time is very limited, as I do work for a living. Regardless of your lack of belief, of WHEN I saw this piece, Bill, the ONLY time I have ever seen the piece on AL was when it was originally aired, as previously stated. Sorry to disappoint you. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: William Shannon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest In a message dated 11/2/00 11:39:43 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I still vividly remember video of AL GORE, visiting with William Jefferson Clinton, in 1992, at the Jefferson memorial, pointing up to the president's busts that lined the round office of the former founding father, and Big Al asking: "Who are these guys?" OH MY! eagle 1What you "vividly remember" is a recent FOX News piece on this gaffe'...I hardly belive that you actually caught this when it was originally aired. Bill.
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I think we should vote for neither one of the major candidates up for grabs... Neither has the guts, nor the brains to stand up to some of the criminal leaders in the world. What we need is a REAL CROOK of a president! One who is not afraid to lie, steal and cheat. A holy president will get us no where fast. The first onslaught of terror, and either of these guys is bound to melt at a confrontation. We need a president who can take the world by the balls, and show the world that the US, is not the draft dodging, pantywaisted, sex fiends that thelame duckpresident has frequently shown in the past. NOW... WHO of the two major candidates running can stand up to this test... ? NEITHER. So I may just go cast my vote for TED NUGENT and hope the rest of the USrocks the vote as well!!! - Original Message - From: William Shannon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest In a message dated 11/3/00 7:38:25 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well why don;t someone ask Gore and Clinton if they are Communists? They are traitors! So "stoopid"...why ask such DUMBASSED questions of this well-read list??? Here's a thought...LOOK UP THE WORD "COMMUNIST"...methinks you'll see why nobody with an OPERATIVE BRAIN asks such a MORONIC question! By the way..."socially liberal" DOESN'T equal COMMUNIST... NO FURTHER COMMENT NEEDED... Bill.
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At least Clinton/Gore balanced the budget for a change, as opposed to 300 Billion + deficits and sluggish economy during the Reagan/Bush years.Carter was too blind to figure out the future effects of inflation. We bitthe bullet for a couple years until we had a run of prosperity. This explains the Reagan year economics I would think, it's how I remember it. Didn't Reagan have a tax cut in order to stimulate the inflated economy? Now we have an booming economy,Yes and a budget surplus.Heh heh heh... I.O.U.'s ==Surplus is only on paper; statistics lie I guess some would like to return to the failed ways of the past. Get a few hundred more dollars back from a tax cut,Clinton either lied, told us what we wanted to hear or didn't know what thehell he was promising us. I think it was all of the former. I curious as towhere all this money is coming from with all these new programs Gore ispromising us. He lied, like he has with so many other items, AND told us what we wanted to hear, like with so many other items. The money is perhaps coming from"expected savings" from belt-tightening and other smoke-and-mirrors tricks. with higher interest rates,Didn't Greenspan hike interest rates a while back??? higher unemployment,Well we've got alot of jobs...too bad they don't pay spit. ==Haven't you heard of all the layoffs in the communicaitons industries in the past 2-3 years?? soaring medical costs, etc.Heh heh heh...evidently you haven't looked at your paycheck stub recently ordon't have any hospitalization. Mine increases 50 cents per hour next weekand they informed us it will go up another 20 cents per hour next June.==Soaring primarily because of malpractice insurance, which is rising because doctors/hospitals do things like amputate the wrong foot (Tampa General). Just give the big companies a big tax break and everything will be ok! I think you are dreaming... You're gonna have to get back in this reality. Something has to be donehere. In Michigan we've had a bustling economy but...in our local area alonewe've lost a General Motors Plant 8000 workers, most of the productionfacilities at Kellogg's Cereals, we had a Monsanto merger withPharmacia/Upjohn with over 2000 jobs lost and we're waiting on the rumoredAmerican Home Products buyout/merger where they buyout and trash what theydon't want. But then that's Ok cause we keep getting these Fast FoodRestaurants on every street corner for job security. Same scenario in New England. I've been wondering whether the reason unemployment stats are so good is, besides them cooking them for political and public consumption, that this younger workforce is on welfare, disability and/or sheltered work programs. It would be easy to take them out of the workforce calculation, or into it, as neededand whenever needed. Like those trust fund IOU's. I remember when James Blanchard (democrat) was last Governor here, thingsseemed peachy until our 16 billion dollar debt caught up with us. JohnEngler(republican) found the "books were cooked" cleaned up the debt and putus on a surplus. We could have a rude awakening if Bush gets in and has abunch of "Pro's" sort through the books that were handled by Clinton'sCronie's. Bush is smart enough to surround himself with qualifiedprofessionals and not "good old buddies". ===Shades of Whitewater. And don't forget Cattlegate.I still like to say I'm non-partisan but enough is enough. We need a littlebit of both but it's time to get a republican in there to sort through itall and see what we've really got. Gore's making too many promises andtrying to be too many things to too many people just like Clinton did. He'stelling us what we want to hear. ===For sure. While Republican in leaning, I am voting more against Gore than I am for Bush. One big reason is that I feel Gore is more pro-UN and pro-nationalism and pro-New World Order/One World Government and I am decidedly not. So I agree with G. Virtuoso's comment, IF ONE HAD TO CHOOSE THE "LESSER OF TWO EVILS," WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE GAME PLAN ANYWAY ... YOU'D HAVE TO GO WISH BUSH ... SURELY??? We are about to lose the bill of rights and constitution with Clinton Goreand Democratic Party! We already have lost them, the loss is just not apparent yet. Well why don;t someone ask Gore and Clinton if they are Communists? They aretraitors! =The definition of a traitor used to, years ago, include selling out one's country's financial interests to foreigners. Like NAFTA. Iagree they are traitors. We know what stress did to Clinton. ;-) ==It was hardly "stress"! It was purely lust and opportunity. Now the whole world, present and future,will remember him for this. He deserves that; it is nothing more than the truth. Then there's the Lincoln Bedroom shame. Clinton's conduct is on a par with the one who did not even TRY to rescue the lady in the
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-Caveat Lector- I remember that well, it was on the Nightly News on one of the major networks. And please, let's don't leave anyone out, as we've known for eight long years that Albert Gore isn't ready for prime time either. I still vividly remember video of AL GORE, visiting with William Jefferson Clinton, in 1992, at the Jefferson memorial, pointing up to the president's busts that lined the round office of the former founding father, and Big Al asking: "Who are these guys?" OH MY! eagle 1 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/02/2000 8:09:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "It's not something he's proud of," Bush spokeswoman Mindy Tucker said, explaining why Bush had not come forward with the information on his own. Bush was pulled over by police for driving too slowly near his family's Kennebunkport, Maine, summer home during the Labor Day weekend. Other people were in the car, but Tucker did not know who. There are a lot of reasons why I don't want Dubya for president, but none of them have anything to do with an ancient DUI. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/02/2000 10:09:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: YOU'D HAVE TO GO WISH BUSH ... SURELY??? Oh surely not! Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/02/2000 9:11:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who really cares about who lied about what? The past is the past and no one is going to change what either one of these nutzoids did in their pasts. The bottom line is you are not going to find the perfect candidate in the choices for president available. So why bother? And why even bother to vote? NEITHER is worthy of my time to go to the poll. Now wait a minute. We've spent eight years investigating things that the Clintons might or might not have done for the past thirty years. I thought the past was the past, until the Republicans spent millions of tax dollars insisting that every little bit of anything really counted. So if you don't want to vote, don't vote, but don't tell me the past is the past until you can get the Republican party to cough up the money they cost us investigating it. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Well why don;t someone ask Gore and Clinton if they are Communists? They are traitors! Bill A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest: Now Votescam...
Who really cares about who lied about what? The past is the past and no one is going to change what either one of these nutzoids did in their pasts. The bottom line is you are not going to find the perfect candidate in the choices for president available. So why bother?And why even botherto vote?*** NEITHER is worthy of my time to go to the poll. eagle 1 Good Question there Eagle 1... www.votescam.com You're running in your first election for City Council in a crowded field of 26 candidates. Nine will be elected. The No. I local anchorman comes on T.V. at about 9:15 PM and announces that you're going to do very well for a first time candidatehe flashes on the screen that you're running 12th; only three places from victory. Such a finish would give hope to all who were daring to fight city hall. Earlier in the evening, a liberal-leftist hometown university professor who was analyzing early returns for another local TV station had projected that your arch-rival, and his allya sweetheart of the anti-God portion of the establishmentwas headed towards defeat. But HO-L-L-L-D EVERYTHING !!!At approximately 9.45 PM the same anchorman announces that there has been a computer breakdown. 45 minutes later when the computers come back up, a massive switch has occurred. You and 7 other feisty challengers have fallen to the very bottom of the heap The establishment sweetheart has jumped into a winning positionagainst all odds. Despite unprecedented public dissatisfaction, the same oldfaces are elected once again. Many conclude that "you just can't fight city hall. " Things have worked out just great for all those entrenched politicians who seemed to be the object of such public dissatisfaction right up to election day. The next morning, you scan the papers in vain for any mention of the computer breakdown no record for posterity. The above scenario is my storybut it was happening in dozens of places all across the nation. It was 1979 and a new day had quietly dawned in America - UNVERIFIABLE, RIGGABLE computerized vote tabulation. Ballots for BulletsWhen I was small I remember my Dad saying how in other countries they would shoot each other to decide the transfer of power. In our country it was done by the ballot at election time. Millions of American soldiers have fought and bled and died to protect your right to free and fair elections; to protect your right to an orderly, peaceful transfer of power when the people so will. How Your Parents' Votes Were CountedOnce upon a time, Americans voted by Paper Ballot. At the end of the day after the polls had closed, neighborhood people, Democrats and Republicans, worked together to count the votes in the precinct (polling place) BEFORE the votes left that precinct. The count was then posted at the precinct polling place for all to see. This is the only way to insure a verifiable election. Variations of method are possible, but the elements of physical ballots which are counted and posted at the precinct before the ballots leave each precinct are essential to insure a fair and honest count. To rig an election with the above safeguards built in, one would have to bribe many hundreds of neighborhood people, including key Democrats and Republicans in each precinct you hoped to rig. Finally, the group of people bribed at each precinct would only have access to a tiny fraction of the vote. There would be no hope of throwing an election from a central location with the push of a button. The Greatest Cover-up Begins About 1974 a sinister development was in full swing all over the United States. In many areas, especially high population regions, the votes were no longer being counted in the precincts by neighborhood people. The switch was on to computer vote counting systems. Typical was Cincinnati, Oluo where votes were bundled up immediately after the polls closed and sent to a mysterious centra computer room to be counted by secret computer codes. To add insult to injury, the votes were counted away from the watchful eye of the entire electorate and the press.Despite the brutal cover up that has been conducted for going on date decades by the newsmedia and the major parties to prevent you from hearing about this issue, some major media news items have appeared. In a rare but superb news story on the eve of the 1988 Presidential election, Dan Rather (CBS Evening News) engaged in this exchange with computer expert Howard J. Strauss of Princeton University: Rather- "Realistically, could the fix be put on in a national election?" Strauss: "Get me a job with the company that writes the software for this program. (ed- Strauss was referring to the most common computer program in use) Then I'd have access to one third of the votes. Is that enough to fix a general election?" "A
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
-Caveat Lector- Let's see now... Did Bush drive his car off a bridge while drunk? Did a female passenger drown? Did he fail to recue her? Since none of these things happened, Bush obviously is totally worthless. ### Those who expect to reap the benefits of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. - Thomas Paine A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
Title: RE: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest I think you meant, did he even TRY to rescue her? In which he didn't. Let's see now... Did Bush drive his car off a bridge while drunk? Did a female passenger drown? Did he fail to recue her? Since none of these things happened, Bush obviously is totally worthless. ### Those who expect to reap the benefits of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. - Thomas Paine
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In a message dated 11/2/00 11:39:43 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I still vividly remember video of AL GORE, visiting with William Jefferson Clinton, in 1992, at the Jefferson memorial, pointing up to the president's busts that lined the round office of the former founding father, and Big Al asking: "Who are these guys?" OH MY! eagle 1 What you "vividly remember" is a recent FOX News piece on this gaffe'...I hardly belive that you actually caught this when it was originally aired. Bill.
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In a message dated 11/3/00 7:38:25 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well why don;t someone ask Gore and Clinton if they are Communists? They are traitors! So "stoopid"...why ask such DUMBASSED questions of this well-read list??? Here's a thought...LOOK UP THE WORD "COMMUNIST"...methinks you'll see why nobody with an OPERATIVE BRAIN asks such a MORONIC question! By the way..."socially liberal" DOESN'T equal COMMUNIST... NO FURTHER COMMENT NEEDED... Bill.
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In defense of "Eagle" I VIVIDLY remember it well and didn't see it aired recently. Seems like it was a tour of DC they and their wives were on and remember Gore gazing at these busts that lined the upper portion of a wall while making that statement. The first thought that came to my mind was "Well...here we go...this is gonna get good". I also waited for the tax cut Clinton promised us in his first campaign...what did we get...a Tax Increase. Clinton and Gore in my opinion have and are making promises they can't keep. I like to think I'm non-partisan and don't care for either candidate but would have to decide against Gore in this campaign. -Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William ShannonSent: Friday, November 03, 2000 8:33 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI ArrestIn a message dated 11/2/00 11:39:43 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I still vividly remember video of AL GORE, visiting with William Jefferson Clinton, in 1992, at the Jefferson memorial, pointing up to the president's busts that lined the round office of the former founding father, and Big Al asking: "Who are these guys?" OH MY! eagle 1What you "vividly remember" is a recent FOX News piece on this gaffe'...I hardly belive that you actually caught this when it was originally aired. Bill.
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-Caveat Lector- On 3 Nov 00, at 21:12, T Nohava wrote: I also waited for the tax cut Clinton promised us in his first campaign...what did we get...a Tax Increase. At least Clinton/Gore balanced the budget for a change, as opposed to 300 Billion + deficits and sluggish economy during the Reagan/Bush years. Now we have an booming economy, and a budget surplus. I guess some would like to return to the failed ways of the past. Get a few hundred more dollars back from a tax cut, with higher interest rates, higher unemployment, soaring medical costs, etc. Just give the big companies a big tax break and everything will be ok! I think you are dreaming... Steve }}} ANOMALOUS RADIO {{{ - Techno, Ambient, Talk (33k+) http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=anomalous }}} RADIO ANOMALY {{{ - Techno, Ambient, Jazz (Cable, DSL) http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=stevew168 Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/3/00 10:04:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also waited for the tax cut Clinton promised us in his first campaign...what did we get...a Tax Increase. At least Clinton/Gore balanced the budget for a change, as opposed to 300 Billion + deficits and sluggish economy during the Reagan/Bush years. Now we have an booming economy, and a budget surplus. I guess some would like to return to the failed ways of the past. Get a few hundred more dollars back from a tax cut, with higher interest rates, higher unemployment, soaring medical costs, etc. Just give the big companies a big tax break and everything will be ok! I think you are dreaming... Steve you believe that? We are about to lose the bill of rights and constitution with Clinton Gore and Democratic Party! WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! ** *** A vote for Bush or Gore is a vote to continue Clinton policies! A vote for Buchanan is a vote to continue America! Therefore a vote for Gore or Bush is a wasted vote for America! Don't waste your vote! Vote for Patrick Buchanan! Today, candor compels us to admit that our vaunted two-party system is a snare and a delusion, a fraud upon the nation. Our two parties have become nothing but two wings of the same bird of prey... Patrick Buchanan A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- ??? Clinton/Gore balanced the budget - since when, in what dream? Do you really think some dumb asshole like Clinton is responsible for this "booming economy?" You even think we have a budget surplus? This is a troll right? not very funny Regards, Bob Stokes A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- On 4 Nov 00, at 2:00, Bob Stokes wrote: You even think we have a budget surplus? You think we don't? Based on what evidence? You do have evidence to back up you words don't you? No? This is a troll right? Or are you trolling a long line of obfuscation? Steve }}} ANOMALOUS RADIO {{{ - Techno, Ambient, Talk (33k+) http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=anomalous }}} RADIO ANOMALY {{{ - Techno, Ambient, Jazz (Cable, DSL) http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=stevew168 Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
-Caveat Lector- IF this is the worst skeleton that must be dragged out from Bush's closet... then, is there really a problem with this? unless there was a chronic problem with drinking...? This happened at what? Age 30? Hmm? That's 24 years ago. Let's see, and how old is he now? 54? and he has no other DUI charges in 24 years? Sounds like he learned from the error of his ways. Dragging this kind of ludicrous stuff in the mud only makes Gore look more like an idiot every day. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Steve Wingate" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 6:54 PM Subject: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest -Caveat Lector- (What else is Bush not telling us? --SW) Bush aides acknowledge 1976 DUI charge November 2, 2000 Web posted at: 7:41 p.m. EST (0041 GMT) From staff and wire reports GLEN ELLYN, Illinois -- Aides to Texas Gov. George W. Bush acknowledged Thursday that in 1976 Bush was arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol in Kennebunkport, Maine. Bush, who was 30 at the time, paid a $150 fine and his driving privileges were temporarily suspended in that state. Responding to a news report about the arrest just five days before the presidential election, one aide here said, "We obviously believe the timing of this disclosure is political. It was leaked with the intent of hurting the governor." Campaign officials for Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore declined to comment. "It's not something he's proud of," Bush spokeswoman Mindy Tucker said, explaining why Bush had not come forward with the information on his own. Bush was pulled over by police for driving too slowly near his family's Kennebunkport, Maine, summer home during the Labor Day weekend. Other people were in the car, but Tucker did not know who. The GOP presidential nominee has said he quit drinking the day after his 40th birthday -- July 6, 1986. Alcohol "was beginning to compete for my affections," he told an interviewer in September. His presidential campaign said Thursday they decided to release details after the 1976 police report was faxed to Maine news outlets. CNN Correspondent Candy Crowley and The Associated Press contributed to this report. ./ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
In a message dated 11/2/00 7:24:40 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IF this is the worst skeleton that must be dragged out from Bush's closet... then, is there really a problem with this? unless there was a chronic problem with drinking...? This happened at what? Age 30? Hmm? The big issue is whether Bush ever lied about his conviction on any loan/mortgage type papers...that's the interesting part! Bill.
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
So what if Gore lied, or Bush lied... about ANYTHING... ??? (Maybe they both wear pantyhose? Has either lied about this yet?Heck, what brand do they use??? THAT would be more useful information). Who really cares about who lied about what? The past is the past and no one is going to change what either one of these nutzoids did in their pasts. The bottom line is you are not going to find the perfect candidate in the choices for president available. So why bother? And why even botherto vote? NEITHER is worthy of my time to go to the poll. Fact is, you're going to get screwed, regardless of who is elected this time. Face reality. So why bring up trivial BS like a 24 year oldDUI chargethat has irrelevance to the subject at hand? NEITHER candidate, in my opinion, has the CHARACTER, nor the QUALITY that is required to be the president of this great country for the next four to possibly eight years, (not to mention that their salary is coming out of YOUR paycheck every week). So, we all are going to pay to get screwed, again. (As if we haven't already been paying for the same treatment the past 8 years). What a wonderful thought for the new millennium'sfuture. NOT! eagle 1 - Original Message - From: William Shannon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest In a message dated 11/2/00 7:24:40 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IF this is the worst skeleton that must be dragged out from Bush's closet... then, is there really a problem with this? unless there was a chronic problem with drinking...? This happened at what? Age 30? Hmm? The big issue is whether Bush ever lied about his conviction on any loan/mortgage type papers...that's the interesting part! Bill. .
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
BUSH SOUNDS LIKE THE BETTER CANDIDATE ... I'M NOT THATPRIVY TO US POLITICS ... BUT FROM WHAT I'VEHEARD, AND READ ... IF ONE HAD TO CHOOSE THE "LESSER OF TWO EVILS," WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE GAME PLAN ANYWAY ... YOU'D HAVE TO GO WISH BUSH ... SURELY??? - Original Message - From: Eagle 1 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest So what if Gore lied, or Bush lied... about ANYTHING... ??? (Maybe they both wear pantyhose? Has either lied about this yet?Heck, what brand do they use??? THAT would be more useful information). Who really cares about who lied about what? The past is the past and no one is going to change what either one of these nutzoids did in their pasts. The bottom line is you are not going to find the perfect candidate in the choices for president available. So why bother? And why even botherto vote? NEITHER is worthy of my time to go to the poll. Fact is, you're going to get screwed, regardless of who is elected this time. Face reality. So why bring up trivial BS like a 24 year oldDUI chargethat has irrelevance to the subject at hand? NEITHER candidate, in my opinion, has the CHARACTER, nor the QUALITY that is required to be the president of this great country for the next four to possibly eight years, (not to mention that their salary is coming out of YOUR paycheck every week). So, we all are going to pay to get screwed, again. (As if we haven't already been paying for the same treatment the past 8 years). What a wonderful thought for the new millennium'sfuture. NOT! eagle 1 - Original Message - From: William Shannon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest In a message dated 11/2/00 7:24:40 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IF this is the worst skeleton that must be dragged out from Bush's closet... then, is there really a problem with this? unless there was a chronic problem with drinking...? This happened at what? Age 30? Hmm? The big issue is whether Bush ever lied about his conviction on any loan/mortgage type papers...that's the interesting part! Bill. .
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
-Caveat Lector- Please, chill, there is no need to shout and . . . what do you know of Bush "baby?" And this list is not about the election. But dunna worry, the "odds" are if your "favor." Thanks Om K In a message dated 11/2/00 7:09:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BUSH SOUNDS LIKE THE BETTER CANDIDATE ... I'M NOT THAT PRIVY TO US POLITICS ... BUT FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, AND READ ... IF ONE HAD TO CHOOSE THE "LESSER OF TWO EVILS," WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE GAME PLAN ANYWAY ... YOU'D HAVE TO GO WISH BUSH ... SURELY??? - Original Message - From: Eagle 1 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest So what if Gore lied, or Bush lied... about ANYTHING... ??? (Maybe they both wear pantyhose? Has either lied about this yet? Heck, what brand do they use??? THAT would be more useful information). A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Guitar Virtuoso wrote: BUSH SOUNDS LIKE THE BETTER CANDIDATE ... I'M NOT THAT PRIVY TO US POLITICS ... BUT FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, AND READ ... IF ONE HAD TO CHOOSE THE "LESSER OF TWO EVILS," WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE GAME PLAN ANYWAY ... YOU'D HAVE TO GO WISH BUSH ... SURELY??? You must have mistakingly read/heard/recalled it exactly "back-assed-wards," my friend. Most sincerely, Mike = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
-Caveat Lector- On 2 Nov 00, at 19:32, Eagle 1 wrote: then, is there really a problem with this? unless there was a chronic problem with drinking...? But Bush did have a chronic problem with alcohol and is apparently an alcoholic, who claims he does not drink or do drugs anymore. Ok, but I have to wonder how he will do under stress. We know what stress did to Clinton. ;-) Steve }}} ANOMALOUS RADIO {{{ - Techno, Ambient, Talk (33k+) http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=anomalous }}} RADIO ANOMALY {{{ - Techno, Ambient, Jazz (Cable, DSL) http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=stevew168 Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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Except this time, it is the "Evil of Two Lessers." :) When I think of either of them being on TV almost daily, I think I shall take up drinking! It will certainly get the set turned off at my house. That thought is painful--watching the news and there one of them will be, Gore telling lies a 9 year old would not believe or Bush mispronouncing 10th grade vocabulary words before the whole world. We are in for a bad time of it for the next four years. Pray for a miracle! It is not worth much but I shall go to vote just to let them know people are watching and do not approve. A heavy third party voting should at least give them a moment or two of wondering why they did not get those votes, too. Nah! They won't care but we can see how many of us are disgusted and vote our conscience even if it is "wasting" a vote. Amelia - Original Message - From: Guitar Virtuoso To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest BUSH SOUNDS LIKE THE BETTER CANDIDATE ... I'M NOT THATPRIVY TO US POLITICS ... BUT FROM WHAT I'VEHEARD, AND READ ... IF ONE HAD TO CHOOSE THE "LESSER OF TWO EVILS," WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE GAME PLAN ANYWAY ... YOU'D HAVE TO GO WISH BUSH ... SURELY??? - Original Message - From: Eagle 1 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest So what if Gore lied, or Bush lied... about ANYTHING... ??? (Maybe they both wear pantyhose? Has either lied about this yet?Heck, what brand do they use??? THAT would be more useful information). Who really cares about who lied about what? The past is the past and no one is going to change what either one of these nutzoids did in their pasts. The bottom line is you are not going to find the perfect candidate in the choices for president available. So why bother? And why even botherto vote? NEITHER is worthy of my time to go to the poll. .
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
-Caveat Lector- Steve W, Perhaps I should have been more specific... I meant, a problem involving **drinking and driving**, that precipitated your 24 year old report of DUI arrest, which is the topic of this thread of discussion. Also, he [Bush] says he hasn't been under the influence of demanding alcohol in 14 years. That's quite a while ago. Fourteen years is plenty of time to "get over it". So what's your point??? He got the rehab he needed, obviously... and does not still have the problem, so he says. WHY beat a dead horse? The subject is moot at this point. This kind of political mud slinging is exactly what I do not understand about the 'new democrats', i.e... bringing up stuff that happened "x" many years ago, as if it is still the problem today. I know many people who are quote **FORMER** alcoholics and function just fine in their jobs today, successfully, without a drink even under stress. I also know many who have previously had some psychological problems, but, again, function normally and without problems today. Everyone tells the person who needs help to go to rehab. They go, and are rehabilitated, or rehabilitate themselves, yet everyone still points and accuses as though the problem still exists. What's your point? except to attempt to defamate the candidate you see as least fit. I reiterate, it doesn't matter who wins... We're all losers in the final analysis, on the day that either of these yahoos is sworn to office. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Steve Wingate" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest -Caveat Lector- On 2 Nov 00, at 19:32, Eagle 1 wrote: then, is there really a problem with this? unless there was a chronic problem with drinking...? But Bush did have a chronic problem with alcohol and is apparently an alcoholic, who claims he does not drink or do drugs anymore. Ok, but I have to wonder how he will do under stress. We know what stress did to Clinton. ;-) Steve ./ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
-Caveat Lector- Anyone wishing to "see" for themselves, the Bush DUI article... for mudslinging politics as usual Please go to: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20001102/ts/bush_arrest_dc_5.html -snip- Bush, running neck-and-neck with Democratic rival Al Gore (news - web sites), also questioned the timing of the report -- five days before the Nov. 7 election -- saying, ``I have my suspicions.'' The Gore campaign has denied any involvement in leaking the news. ``I'm not proud of that. I've often said that years ago I made some mistakes,'' Bush told reporters. ``I regret that it happened. But it did ... I stopped drinking 14 years ago and I haven't had a drop since.'' Asked why he had not disclosed the incident earlier, Bush said: ``I didn't want my girls to do the same thing. I'm not trying to get away with anything. I didn't want to talk about this in front of my daughters. I didn't want them drinking and driving. It was a decision I made.'' Bush said he was arrested after a drinking session with former Australian tennis star John Newcombe. In the car as well were Newcombe's wife and two other people. Bush campaign spokeswoman Karen Hughes said Bush, who was 30 at the time, pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of driving while under the influence, paid a $150 fine, and had his license temporarily suspended in the state of Maine. snip- - Original Message - From: "Eagle 1" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest -Caveat Lector- Steve W, Perhaps I should have been more specific... I meant, a problem involving **drinking and driving**, that precipitated your 24 year old report of DUI arrest, which is the topic of this thread of discussion. Also, he [Bush] says he hasn't been under the influence of demanding alcohol in 14 years. That's quite a while ago. Fourteen years is plenty of time to "get over it". So what's your point??? He got the rehab he needed, obviously... and does not still have the problem, so he says. WHY beat a dead horse? The subject is moot at this point. This kind of political mud slinging is exactly what I do not understand about the 'new democrats', i.e... bringing up stuff that happened "x" many years ago, as if it is still the problem today. I know many people who are quote **FORMER** alcoholics and function just fine in their jobs today, successfully, without a drink even under stress. I also know many who have previously had some psychological problems, but, again, function normally and without problems today. Everyone tells the person who needs help to go to rehab. They go, and are rehabilitated, or rehabilitate themselves, yet everyone still points and accuses as though the problem still exists. What's your point? except to attempt to defamate the candidate you see as least fit. I reiterate, it doesn't matter who wins... We're all losers in the final analysis, on the day that either of these yahoos is sworn to office. eagle 1 ./ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
-Caveat Lector- On 2 Nov 00, at 22:36, Eagle 1 wrote: What's your point? except to attempt to defamate the candidate you see as least fit. These allegations have been on the Internet for many months. Someone sent an email about a G. Bush or something like that arrested for drunk driving in Maine. Bush's press secretary admitted today she was aware of his previous arrests (actually two, one in his earlier, earlier youth for stealing a wreath from a hotel). I think the real issue here is Bush's lack of truthfulness and openness about his past, some of which is part of the public records. (Maybe he assumed it had been expunged due to his father's status) The lack of his foresight in not releasing this information about his arrests earlier shows his lack of leadership and yes, intelligence. Bush is not ready for prime time. Can he even read? Has he been tested? :-) Steve }}} ANOMALOUS RADIO {{{ - Techno, Ambient, Talk (33k+) http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=anomalous }}} RADIO ANOMALY {{{ - Techno, Ambient, Jazz (Cable, DSL) http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=stevew168 Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
-Caveat Lector- SW says, Bush is not ready for prime time. Can he even read? Has he been tested? :-) And please, let's don't leave anyone out, as we've known for eight long years that Albert Gore isn't ready for prime time either. I still vividly remember video of AL GORE, visiting with William Jefferson Clinton, in 1992, at the Jefferson memorial, pointing up to the president's busts that lined the round office of the former founding father, and Big Al asking: "Who are these guys?" OH MY! eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Steve Wingate" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest -Caveat Lector- On 2 Nov 00, at 22:36, Eagle 1 wrote: What's your point? except to attempt to defamate the candidate you see as least fit. These allegations have been on the Internet for many months. Someone sent an email about a G. Bush or something like that arrested for drunk driving in Maine. Bush's press secretary admitted today she was aware of his previous arrests (actually two, one in his earlier, earlier youth for stealing a wreath from a hotel). I think the real issue here is Bush's lack of truthfulness and openness about his past, some of which is part of the public records. (Maybe he assumed it had been expunged due to his father's status) The lack of his foresight in not releasing this information about his arrests earlier shows his lack of leadership and yes, intelligence. Bush is not ready for prime time. Can he even read? Has he been tested? :-) Steve ./ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
Piper Creations page on George Bush and the Bush family philosophy is at, there are multiple links there. http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/index.htm also http://thepiedpiper.tripod.com/Book1/CNS1.htm#_Bush_/_Gore Bush Must Face Lawsuit Brought by Environmental Activists http://ens.lycos.com/ens/sep2000/2000L-09-13-02.html By Brian Hansen AUSTIN, Texas, September 13, 2000 (ENS) - A Texas judge has rejected a motion to dismiss Republican presidential nominee Governor George W. Bush from a civil rights lawsuit brought by environmental groups and individual protesters. The suit was filed against the Texas governor by citizens who were arrested and jailed last spring for protesting Bush's environmental policies on the public sidewalk in front of the Texas Governor's Mansion. http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/communism0001.htm At my web site I have some essays on Communisim and it's belief in "Suvival of the Fittist" Intresting that they advocate the common man and common means below average. Kissinger and Bush seem to advocate the status quo it seems as if they do not believe in change either. Title: FreeFind search boxes Site Map * Disclaimer * Site Search * Piper Creations this is mirrored from Aspartame Consumer Safety Network and Pilots Hotline at http://web2.airmail.net/marystod/ Is a Vote for BUSH a Vote For ASPARTAME? 10.23.00 For Immediate Release Contact ACSN: 214-352-4268 Website: http://web2.airmail.net/marystod > October 23, 2000 Is a Vote for BUSH a Vote For ASPARTAME? You decide... First, came the inaction of an unethical Federal Prosecutor in the late 1970s: Samuel Skinner is the U.S. Attorney taking G.D. Searle, [inventors of aspartame] officials to court on behalf of the Food and Drug Administration, for lying about aspartame's deadly results in the falsified lab tests - a grave Federal offense. Prosecutor, Samuel Skinner then "defected" - left his government post and crossed over - to work for those same people he was taking to court, G.D. Searle's lawfirm, Sidley Austin. He later left Sidley Austin to insinuate his way back into government as head of the U.S. Department of Transportation [over the FAA pilots]. Where did the former U.S. Attorney/Dept. of Transportation Dir. go next? The following is a brief excerpt from the feature magazine article in Washington D.C.'s SPOTLIGHT April 6, 1992 pg 14-15 -- also this and more was discussed on the January 21, 1992 broadcast on The Spotlight's nightly call-in talk forum, Radio Free America, hosted by Tom Valentine: Headline: "Media Ignores Scandals Close to President Bush's Campaign" "It was President Bush's son, George W. Bush who suggested Samuel Skinner be named White House chief of staff. Son, George W. Bush said Skinner was so capable, yet if you look at Skinner's record . . . you'll find several cases where he wasn't looking out for the protection of the American people. Photo with article captioned: George W. Bush . . . High on Skinner." Also in the report: "While her husband served as President Bush's White House chief of staff, Mrs. Samuel Skinner remained employed by Sidley Austin, G.D. Searle pharmaceutical's lawfirm. Major conflict of interest? Read on . . . Two examples of Bush's arrogant actions leading up to his nomination as a Presidential Candidate: In 1995, ignoring approximately 50,000 phone calls from consumers to his Austin office, asking him to "Veto" the notorious "Agricultural Anti-Defamation Act" [the one which allowed the Beef Industry in Texas to sue Oprah Winfrey], Texas Gov. George W. Bush refused to support his constituents, and allowed the unjust law to go into effect without his signature or veto. Dallas-based Aspartame Consumer Safety Network and Pilot Hotline, [the grassroots multi-national organization formed by former State Judge, Mary Nash Stoddard and Washington consumer advocate, James Turner, Esq. in 1987 to promote food safety and consumer awareness] blitzed the media, in the spring of 1995, with interviews exposing this bill for being not only unnecessary [existing libel laws in Texas are more than adequate], but also dangerously un-Constitutional - taking away our Freedom of Speech. [Mainstream Media was on ACSN's side in this battle, calling it primarily a First Amendment / Freedom of the Press issue.] Texas Gov.George W. Bush ignored the public outcry, and allowed the law [jeeringly referred to in the press as the "Bush Veggie Bill"] to go into effect, September 1, 1995. When the Beef Industry tried to sue Oprah under this law in Amarillo, Texas, they lost their case. Recently reported by the national media, are these George W.
Re: [CTRL] Bush Finally Admits DUI Arrest
-Caveat Lector- Sounds like Gore has a sense of humor... On 2 Nov 00, at 23:38, Eagle 1 wrote: I still vividly remember video of AL GORE, visiting with William Jefferson Clinton, in 1992, at the Jefferson memorial, pointing up to the president's busts that lined the round office of the former founding father, and Big Al asking: "Who are these guys?" OH MY! }}} ANOMALOUS RADIO {{{ - Techno, Ambient, Talk (33k+) http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=anomalous }}} RADIO ANOMALY {{{ - Techno, Ambient, Jazz (Cable, DSL) http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=stevew168 Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om