Re: [CTRL] EXOPOLITICS - Book Review by N Molloy
If that constitutes the "Best Evidence" then this position truly cannot be supported scientifically. Consider that we have NO verified sample of anything "not of this Earth". We have no verified "alien technology". We have no verified, and or analyzed example of "extraterrestrial life form". We have nothing, in short. What we do have is supposition (not that I'm against that in and of itself, nor am I against anyone's belief in alien visitation, but I will grouse at the mention of "evidence" when it is more a matter of BELIEF). What we do have is anecdotal reports, which based on the preheld notions of the investigators are given an "alien spin". UFO's could be many things not the least of which are TERRESTRIAL SECRET CRAFT, which is almost wholly ignored by this group of people in favor of the much more exotic "ETH". Let us be aware that this issue is one that has been manipulated by the Intelligence agencies over the years since Kenneth Arnold's first sighting. They like it when people get their panties all in a bunch defending indefensible positions while your attention is directed away from the man behind the curtain wearing a USAF uniform, or having CIA credentials. They sit back and call it all bunk and have the whole notion discredited, and that means when people talk about Aurora it is tainted by the whole UFO-Alien issue and no one believes it is real. On Sat, 20 May 2000, DIG alfred webre wrote: In a message dated 00-05-20 20:43:51 EDT, you write: Which is? Try "Best Available Evidence" http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/ufobrief.html CSETI http://www.cseti.org/ The first document was delivered to the President of the USA (Bill Clinton), the US Congress and Heads of State around the world by an interested group of researchers, funded by et-curious Laurance Rockefeller. About 1000 copies exist. You can purchase copies on the Net for a modest sum. It is a serious research document, which should be approached with the methodology of science and the respect due the many lives of humans who have been assassinated by the secret state in order to cover up an extraterrestrial presence. Like conspiracy research, et research is demanding and a sacred task. IMHO Alfred A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey ___ Why pay when you don't have to? Get AltaVista Free Internet Access now! http://jump.altavista.com/freeaccess4.go ___ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A
Re: [CTRL] EXOPOLITICS - Book Review by N Molloy
Nicky Molloy wrote: Here is a rare mental treat folks! I just reviewed Alfred Webre's book on the preparation of our entry into Universal society to join with the intergalactic federation and WOW I do think he will be worth a listen on Jeff Rense's show Sightings on 29 May. Did it ever occur to anyone that earth may actually be in quarantine from the rest of the Universe? No. Not really. If you weight up all the odds of this being likely - well it seems to fit perfectly. Could you show those numbers which make these odds likely. This is great exercise for expanding the mind. Try Miracle Gro instead. Be good to get some feedback and see what others think too - Alfred has been hiding his talent. I think people need to get prepared for the possibility of us rejoining the Universe. This is a good idea. As practice, why not try rejoining the planet first. They are here and we aren't preparedAlfred used to be a futurist at Stanford and has sussed out all that we need to achieve to get back into the universal fold. Nicky Dear Nicky, I don't want list members to get the erroneous impression that I have it in for you ( so to speak ). I don't. I think that you are bright and energetic. It's your judgment that I question. Apparently you are capable of believing ANYTHING. This should not be confused with being open minded. They are not the same thing though might appear to be. There might or might not be intelligent life out in the universe, " but there's bugger all down here on Earth." (- Monty Python's The Meaning of Life.) The TRUTH is that we don't know. There is a huge leap to be made from "we don't know," to what this guy is proposing. In between, there is not sufficient hard evidence to evoke his conclusion, and your endorsement of that conclusion. To counteract this nonsense, I suggest you read Rare Earth. This book's authors propose the theory that life on Earth is UNIQUE. This theory does not require outrageous leaps of fantasy because ALL CURRENT EVIDENCE SHOWS THIS TO BE THE CASE. Now, I understand that we may be limited to what we currently know and that it will surely change, but at least it's rooted in reality. So keep working on those ol' critical faculties there. Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] EXOPOLITICS - Book Review by N Molloy
In a message dated 00-05-20 15:43:28 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To counteract this nonsense, I suggest you read Rare Earth. This book's authors propose the theory that life on Earth is UNIQUE. This theory does not require outrageous leaps of fantasy because ALL CURRENT EVIDENCE SHOWS THIS TO BE THE CASE. There really is no contradiction between Rare Earth and the Exopolitics model. The model put forth in Rare Earth represents a best guess by the authors as to the probablity of existence of other life bearing planets. Exopolitics as well represents a field theory based on the probablity that other life-bearing planets exist besides Earth. The two authors differ, based on evidence. The Rare Earth authors overlook the hard evidence of extraterrestrial presence on Earth. Carl Sagan would even say they are limited!!! Exopolitics says Earth is a very rare planet in a populated Universe, which is the more accurate view. Alfred Webre, Vancouver, BC _ earthradioTV.com - Alternative News Forum for ecology, politics consciousness. MIRROR SITES: USA http://www.earthradioTV.com/ CZECH http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ UK http://members.tripod.co.uk/ecologynews/ Canada http://www.ecologynews.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] EXOPOLITICS - Book Review by N Molloy
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: The Rare Earth authors overlook the hard evidence of extraterrestrial presence on Earth. Which is? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] EXOPOLITICS - Book Review by N Molloy
In a message dated 00-05-20 20:43:51 EDT, you write: Which is? Try "Best Available Evidence" http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/ufobrief.html CSETI http://www.cseti.org/ The first document was delivered to the President of the USA (Bill Clinton), the US Congress and Heads of State around the world by an interested group of researchers, funded by et-curious Laurance Rockefeller. About 1000 copies exist. You can purchase copies on the Net for a modest sum. It is a serious research document, which should be approached with the methodology of science and the respect due the many lives of humans who have been assassinated by the secret state in order to cover up an extraterrestrial presence. Like conspiracy research, et research is demanding and a sacred task. IMHO Alfred A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om