Re: [CTRL] Email Freezing on CTRL Emails ONLY

2000-05-17 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Jim Condit Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 What in the world is going on? Last night I ran into another CTRL email that
 froze my email. I had to go into mailstart and get rid of it after I
 identified it. I didn't note the name, but now, tonight a CTRL email froze
 me up under the name "William Shannon" --

 I must say I find it interesting that I identify the "Bill Richer" emails as
 being the cause of freeze up -- and then immediately the freeze up begins to
 happen with emails sent under other names. Again, I'm not accusing anyone, I
 just determined to get to the bottom of this strange problem. I've lost
 hours trying to determine what was happening -- and to straighten out the
 whole situation, probably days.

Since it seems to only be happening to you (I haven't had any problems, and
seemingly no one else, or at least very few), it would seem that this subject
would be better handled by taking it off-list and discussing it with your own
ISP and perhaps the ISPs of the emails you suspect are causing you a problem.

June

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Re: [CTRL] Email Freezing on CTRL Emails ONLY

2000-05-17 Thread Dano

May I suggest Jim, that perhaps the problem is in your machine and
not with the emails? Was it on this list the other day where someone
suggested a deep format of the hard drive should be performed
every so oftenI do exactly that...purge the junk!!!


Jim Condit Jr wrote:

 What in the world is going on? Last night I ran into another CTRL email that
 froze my email. I had to go into mailstart and get rid of it after I
 identified it. I didn't note the name, but now, tonight a CTRL email froze
 me up under the name "William Shannon" --

 I must say I find it interesting that I identify the "Bill Richer" emails as
 being the cause of freeze up -- and then immediately the freeze up begins to
 happen with emails sent under other names. Again, I'm not accusing anyone, I
 just determined to get to the bottom of this strange problem. I've lost
 hours trying to determine what was happening -- and to straighten out the
 whole situation, probably days.

 Since I've heard nothing, I've alerted fuse.net and they are going to
 analyze a few of the "freeze up" emails. I also have a techie on this end
 who is interested in the phenomenon. Has Kris Millegan or anyone else found
 out anything? One other person on the list did email in that he was having a
 similar problem with "Bill Richer" emails. Is anyone else having continual
 email freezeups. I repeat, I am and have been on other far less
 sophisticated services than fuse net, and they have NEVER had a problem with
 this; of course, I've never subscribed to the CTRL list from those sites.
 Can anyone help resolve this? Jim Condit Jr.

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Re: [CTRL] Email Freezing on CTRL Emails ONLY

2000-05-17 Thread Jim Condit Jr

Dear June, one other person already said they noticed "Bill Richer" emails
as hang ups -- and that's why I put it out to the list. Jim

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 Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 6:26 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Email Freezing on CTRL Emails ONLY


 From: "Jim Condit Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  What in the world is going on? Last night I ran into another
 CTRL email that
  froze my email. I had to go into mailstart and get rid of it after I
  identified it. I didn't note the name, but now, tonight a CTRL
 email froze
  me up under the name "William Shannon" --
 
  I must say I find it interesting that I identify the "Bill
 Richer" emails as
  being the cause of freeze up -- and then immediately the freeze
 up begins to
  happen with emails sent under other names. Again, I'm not
 accusing anyone, I
  just determined to get to the bottom of this strange problem. I've lost
  hours trying to determine what was happening -- and to
 straighten out the
  whole situation, probably days.

 Since it seems to only be happening to you (I haven't had any
 problems, and
 seemingly no one else, or at least very few), it would seem that
 this subject
 would be better handled by taking it off-list and discussing it
 with your own
 ISP and perhaps the ISPs of the emails you suspect are causing
 you a problem.

 June

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Re: [CTRL] Email Freezing on CTRL Emails ONLY

2000-05-17 Thread Mark McHugh

Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote:

 From: "Jim Condit Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  What in the world is going on? Last night I ran into another CTRL email that
  froze my email. I had to go into mailstart and get rid of it after I
  identified it. I didn't note the name, but now, tonight a CTRL email froze
  me up under the name "William Shannon" --
 
  I must say I find it interesting that I identify the "Bill Richer" emails as
  being the cause of freeze up -- and then immediately the freeze up begins to
  happen with emails sent under other names. Again, I'm not accusing anyone, I
  just determined to get to the bottom of this strange problem. I've lost
  hours trying to determine what was happening -- and to straighten out the
  whole situation, probably days.

 Since it seems to only be happening to you (I haven't had any problems, and
 seemingly no one else, or at least very few), it would seem that this subject
 would be better handled by taking it off-list and discussing it with your own
 ISP and perhaps the ISPs of the emails you suspect are causing you a problem.

 June

I also had this problem a few times.  It hasn't happened to me since I switched
ISPs back in February.  I use Netscape under Win95.  It seemed to happen
whenever someone emailed an article as an large attachment.  I wonder if it's
the mailer.  Both BR and WS use AOL 5.0 for Windows.  I've also had problems
with posts sent by MS Outlook on a Russian list.  The Cyrillic coding would come
out garbled and freeze my Netscape.

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Re: [CTRL] Email Freezing on CTRL Emails ONLY

2000-05-17 Thread Kathleen
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>
> From: "Jim Condit Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > What in the world is going on? Last night I ran into another CTRL
> > email that froze my email. I had to go into mailstart and get rid
> > of it after I identified it. I didn't note the name, but now,
> > tonight a CTRL email froze me up under the name "William Shannon"
> > --
>

I have never had any CTRL email freeze my mail system, but the one from William Shannon that you mention got stuck in my new mail folder.  I couldn't delete it even with a hard reboot.  I had to figure out which one of the .pmm files referred to it and delete it through Explorer.  This has happened occasionally with mail from other sources as well.  I don't think it's anything other than an electronic hiccup.


--
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Re: [CTRL] Email Freezing on CTRL Emails ONLY

2000-05-17 Thread William Shannon

In a message dated 5/17/00 3:10:42 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Dear June, one other person already said they noticed "Bill Richer" emails
 as hang ups -- and that's why I put it out to the list. Jim 

And Jim, I responded to you off-list and told you that I have no clue as to
the source of your problems...crappy service provider is my best guess..

Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] Email Freezing on CTRL Emails ONLY

2000-05-17 Thread Jim Condit Jr

Dear Mark McHugh -- thanks for that valuable input. I have noted over and
over, regarding the size, that the size of these emails have been very, very
small. You do suggest a good thought though, I can switch to my other
provider and see if the problem stops. If it does, I'll gladly offer profuse
apologies for bugging the list about it. However, this still would leave me
wondering why only CTRL emails (thus far) have caused the problem. Jim
Condit Jr.

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 From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Mark McHugh
 Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 4:59 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Email Freezing on CTRL Emails ONLY


 Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote:
 
  From: "Jim Condit Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   What in the world is going on? Last night I ran into another
 CTRL email that
   froze my email. I had to go into mailstart and get rid of it after I
   identified it. I didn't note the name, but now, tonight a
 CTRL email froze
   me up under the name "William Shannon" --
  
   I must say I find it interesting that I identify the "Bill
 Richer" emails as
   being the cause of freeze up -- and then immediately the
 freeze up begins to
   happen with emails sent under other names. Again, I'm not
 accusing anyone, I
   just determined to get to the bottom of this strange problem.
 I've lost
   hours trying to determine what was happening -- and to
 straighten out the
   whole situation, probably days.
 
  Since it seems to only be happening to you (I haven't had any
 problems, and
  seemingly no one else, or at least very few), it would seem
 that this subject
  would be better handled by taking it off-list and discussing it
 with your own
  ISP and perhaps the ISPs of the emails you suspect are causing
 you a problem.
 
  June

 I also had this problem a few times.  It hasn't happened to me
 since I switched
 ISPs back in February.  I use Netscape under Win95.  It seemed to happen
 whenever someone emailed an article as an large attachment.  I
 wonder if it's
 the mailer.  Both BR and WS use AOL 5.0 for Windows.  I've also
 had problems
 with posts sent by MS Outlook on a Russian list.  The Cyrillic
 coding would come
 out garbled and freeze my Netscape.

 --
 ~~
 Mark McHugh

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Re: [CTRL] Email Freezing on CTRL Emails ONLY

2000-05-17 Thread Jim Condit Jr

Dear Dano -- Thanks for the suggestion, --- I just had my windows and whole
computer reloaded a few months ago --- since which time I've had no problems
except this email freeze up business. ALso, the email freeze ups happened
before and after the reload -- or does "deep reloading mean something
else"?? Jim COndit JR.

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 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Email Freezing on CTRL Emails ONLY


 May I suggest Jim, that perhaps the problem is in your machine and
 not with the emails? Was it on this list the other day where someone
 suggested a deep format of the hard drive should be performed
 every so oftenI do exactly that...purge the junk!!!


 Jim Condit Jr wrote:
 
  What in the world is going on? Last night I ran into another
 CTRL email that
  froze my email. I had to go into mailstart and get rid of it after I
  identified it. I didn't note the name, but now, tonight a CTRL
 email froze
  me up under the name "William Shannon" --
 
  I must say I find it interesting that I identify the "Bill
 Richer" emails as
  being the cause of freeze up -- and then immediately the freeze
 up begins to
  happen with emails sent under other names. Again, I'm not
 accusing anyone, I
  just determined to get to the bottom of this strange problem. I've lost
  hours trying to determine what was happening -- and to
 straighten out the
  whole situation, probably days.
 
  Since I've heard nothing, I've alerted fuse.net and they are going to
  analyze a few of the "freeze up" emails. I also have a techie
 on this end
  who is interested in the phenomenon. Has Kris Millegan or
 anyone else found
  out anything? One other person on the list did email in that he
 was having a
  similar problem with "Bill Richer" emails. Is anyone else
 having continual
  email freezeups. I repeat, I am and have been on other far less
  sophisticated services than fuse net, and they have NEVER had a
 problem with
  this; of course, I've never subscribed to the CTRL list from
 those sites.
  Can anyone help resolve this? Jim Condit Jr.
 
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Re: [CTRL] Email Freezing on CTRL Emails ONLY

2000-05-17 Thread tenebroust

On Wed, 17 May 2000, Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote:


 From: "Jim Condit Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  What in the world is going on? Last night I ran into another CTRL email that
  froze my email. I had to go into mailstart and get rid of it after I
  identified it. I didn't note the name, but now, tonight a CTRL email froze
  me up under the name "William Shannon" --
 
  I must say I find it interesting that I identify the "Bill Richer" emails as
  being the cause of freeze up -- and then immediately the freeze up begins to
  happen with emails sent under other names. Again, I'm not accusing anyone, I
  just determined to get to the bottom of this strange problem. I've lost
  hours trying to determine what was happening -- and to straighten out the
  whole situation, probably days.

 Since it seems to only be happening to you (I haven't had any problems, and
 seemingly no one else, or at least very few), it would seem that this subject
 would be better handled by taking it off-list and discussing it with your own
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Re: [CTRL] Email Freezing on CTRL Emails ONLY

2000-05-17 Thread tenebroust

Since this is a limited problem that does not apparently deal with the list as a whole 
I would also say to take it off list with you, the sender and your ISP e-mail reader.  
Thank you.
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On Wed, 17 May 2000, Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote:


 From: "Jim Condit Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  What in the world is going on? Last night I ran into another CTRL email that
  froze my email. I had to go into mailstart and get rid of it after I
  identified it. I didn't note the name, but now, tonight a CTRL email froze
  me up under the name "William Shannon" --
 
  I must say I find it interesting that I identify the "Bill Richer" emails as
  being the cause of freeze up -- and then immediately the freeze up begins to
  happen with emails sent under other names. Again, I'm not accusing anyone, I
  just determined to get to the bottom of this strange problem. I've lost
  hours trying to determine what was happening -- and to straighten out the
  whole situation, probably days.

 Since it seems to only be happening to you (I haven't had any problems, and
 seemingly no one else, or at least very few), it would seem that this subject
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