Re: [CTRL] Has Bill Clinton Died? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Hilary A. Thomas wrote: -Caveat Lector- -- From: Brian Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Has Bill Clinton Died? (fwd) Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 12:51 PM -Caveat Lector- Also, 2 other things come to mind as to a possible Clinton double: 1) Movie based on "Man in the Iron Mask." The king has a look-alike brother who is attempted to be switched and placed on the throne. 2) Some other movie which for the life of me I don't recall, where a look-alike is almost installed as president of U.S. Anyone recall the movie? The movie is called "Dave" I think with Kevin Klein and S. Weaver. I don't think the "double" could be a genetic clone as you would have to wait 40+ years for the clone to grow up which would mean that Clinton would have to have been "selected" as President at birth. So, are you talking about surgical procedures to create the double? Hilary I always hate trying to spell Sigourney also. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Has Bill Clinton Died? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Below from a friend: Also in the interviews in the back of Gary Aldrich's book is a mention of the double by some WH employees. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Has Bill Clinton Died? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-02-17 19:46:56 EST, you write: How do we know that "Bill Clinton" is really Bill Clinton? Further complicating matters are recent purported results of DNA tests which supposedly establish that Bill Clinton is not the father of Danny Williams, rumored to have been sired by Clinton. Oh, then it was the "double" who received favors from Monica Lewinsky, as ascertained by the DNA match on the stains on her blue dress! I consider myself open-minded and certainly do entertain some wild notions myself, but THIS is silly! Samantha DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Has Bill Clinton Died? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Samatha 'Smith' wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-02-17 19:46:56 EST, you write: How do we know that "Bill Clinton" is really Bill Clinton? Further complicating matters are recent purported results of DNA tests which supposedly establish that Bill Clinton is not the father of Danny Williams, rumored to have been sired by Clinton. Oh, then it was the "double" who received favors from Monica Lewinsky, as ascertained by the DNA match on the stains on her blue dress! I consider myself open-minded and certainly do entertain some wild notions myself, but THIS is silly! Wait. More to come in next CNNS. Are there THREE Bill Clintons? And is the real Bill Clinton now dead? As to Monica's dress, could be semen was from the real Bill Clinton BUT more pertaining to that angle in next CNNS. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Has Bill Clinton Died? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, "Samatha 'Smith'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Further complicating matters are recent purported results of DNA tests which supposedly establish that Bill Clinton is not the father of Danny Williams, rumored to have been sired by Clinton. Oh, then it was the "double" who received favors from Monica Lewinsky, as ascertained by the DNA match on the stains on her blue dress! That WOULD seem to be the scenario, which IS plausible, as presented -- the 'real' Clinton supposedly fathered Danny Williams, but somehow died fairly recently, and it was the 'fake' Clinton who was involved with Lewinsky and whose DNA is on her dress...hence, the DNA on the Lewinsky dress would NOT match the DNA in Danny Williams paternity test... The REAL test would be to compare the DNA on the Lewinsky dress with the results of a paternity test performed on CHELSEAand to compare Danny's and Chelsea's results... ;-) I consider myself open-minded and certainly do entertain some wild notions myself, but THIS is silly! It's definitely at the low end of my list of possible conspiracies, but just because something sounds 'silly' does NOT necessarily mean it's not true... ;-) June === "To love another person is to see the face of God." -Les Miserables === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Has Bill Clinton Died? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Also, 2 other things come to mind as to a possible Clinton double: 1) Movie based on "Man in the Iron Mask." The king has a look-alike brother who is attempted to be switched and placed on the throne. 2) Some other movie which for the life of me I don't recall, where a look-alike is almost installed as president of U.S. Anyone recall the movie? Brian Redman | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html Editor-in-Chief| ---Phone: 217-356-4418 Conspiracy Nation | "The perfect slave thinks he's free." On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Brian Redman wrote: -Caveat Lector- On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Jim Yester wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/18/99 7:38:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (snip) It's definitely at the low end of my list of possible conspiracies, but just because something sounds 'silly' does NOT necessarily mean it's not true... ;-) Also, people might not know that Adolph Hitler had several doubles, to make it harder to assassinate him. The use of doubles makes sense from a security standpoint, making it harder to kill the target. If Secret Service is optimizing security, they'd want to do everything possible to ensure safety. So the use of Clinton doubles is not as far-fetched as it might seem. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Has Bill Clinton Died? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- From: Brian Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Has Bill Clinton Died? (fwd) Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 12:51 PM -Caveat Lector- Also, 2 other things come to mind as to a possible Clinton double: 1) Movie based on "Man in the Iron Mask." The king has a look-alike brother who is attempted to be switched and placed on the throne. 2) Some other movie which for the life of me I don't recall, where a look-alike is almost installed as president of U.S. Anyone recall the movie? The movie is called "Dave" I think with Kevin Klein and S. Weaver. I don't think the "double" could be a genetic clone as you would have to wait 40+ years for the clone to grow up which would mean that Clinton would have to have been "selected" as President at birth. So, are you talking about surgical procedures to create the double? Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Has Bill Clinton Died? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/18/99 11:29:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's definitely at the low end of my list of possible conspiracies, but just because something sounds 'silly' does NOT necessarily mean it's not true... ;-) Also, people might not know that Adolph Hitler had several doubles, to make it harder to assassinate him. The use of doubles makes sense from a security standpoint, making it harder to kill the target. If Secret Service is optimizing security, they'd want to do everything possible to ensure safety. So the use of Clinton doubles is not as far-fetched as it might seem. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS Hello.. For what its worth... A few months ago, much to my astonishment, Rush Limbaugh said to his audience that Clinton did indeed have a double. The double was used for security reasons, he gave the example of having the double exit first off of Air Force One, in case of assasination attempts. I don't know where Rush got this information, he didn't say. But if you are a regular Rush listener you know he gives hardly any air time to conspiraicies or NWO stuff. I was very surprised to hear him talk about Clinton's double. Kinda (rhymes with Linda) DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Has Bill Clinton Died? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Hilary A. Thomas wrote: -Caveat Lector- -- From: Brian Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Has Bill Clinton Died? (fwd) Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 12:51 PM -Caveat Lector- Also, 2 other things come to mind as to a possible Clinton double: 1) Movie based on "Man in the Iron Mask." The king has a look-alike brother who is attempted to be switched and placed on the throne. 2) Some other movie which for the life of me I don't recall, where a look-alike is almost installed as president of U.S. Anyone recall the movie? The movie is called "Dave" I think with Kevin Klein and S. Weaver. I don't think the "double" could be a genetic clone as you would have to wait 40+ years for the clone to grow up which would mean that Clinton would have to have been "selected" as President at birth. So, are you talking about surgical procedures to create the double? As in case of Hitler, somehow a double was found. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Has Bill Clinton Died? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Brian Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, people might not know that Adolph Hitler had several doubles, I'd be surprised if most people on this list didn't already know that, but you are correct in that the general public is not aware of it... Apparantly it's not all that uncommon for famous people to have 'doubles' for protection, or to enable them to take time off unseen... Jim Jones was said to employ at least one double, and it's rumored that it's the double who was murdered to look like Jones committed suicide, and that the real Jones escaped with the vast funds of the Jonestown collective... June === "To love another person is to see the face of God." -Les Miserables === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Has Bill Clinton Died? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Brian Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, are you talking about surgical procedures to create the double? As in case of Hitler, somehow a double was found. But it's my understanding that it's not uncommon to have the double undergo cosmetic surgery to enhance the deception...e.g., if the person needing a double has a distinctive feature, say a noticable dimple, and a double is found who is a pretty close facsimile, but lacks the dimple, then it wouldn't be unheard of to have the double undergo cosmetic surgery to suddenly gain a noticeably dimple... But I just wonder who these doubles are, that would be willing to 'take the bullet', as it were, for their employer...must be extraordinarily good pay... June === "To love another person is to see the face of God." -Les Miserables === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
