Re: [CTRL] The bombing of Yugoslavia
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Andrew Kieran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >how could anyone be stupid enough not to figure out that this would kill >people? what the hell do they think these bombs are for? you're right >about the media sanitising war though, or at least the institution. i saw >a documentary on modern weaponry, stuff that was used in the gulf war and >the like, and this US army PR asshole was talking about this new missile >they had that could puncture a tanks army, destroying the tank and the >'equipment' inside. luckily the reporter was quick enough to notice the >newspeak and said "don't you mean it'll puncture the tank's hull and >_kill_ the _people_ inside?" and the PR asshole got rather uncomfortable >and muttered an affirmative And it's THIS type of 'dumbing down' of just what a military force is FOR that is responsible for the weakening of the military...NOT the admission of blacks, or women, or openly acknowledging gay servicepeople...but the general sense of a military force as something OTHER than an efficient killing machine. The PR asshole shouldn't have been speaking 'newspeak' in the first place, but when called on it, should have proudly stated "Hell yeah, our missiles will wipe out the whole of the enemy's tank platoon, including the personnel INSIDE the tanks.." But this is the result of presenting the military to possible young recruits as a 'career alternative' instead of flipping burgers at a fastfood joint, and as a way to get on-the-job training and pay for college later on...and NOT as a career in and of itself, certainly not as a DUTY which possibly requires killing other human beings... As to the mention of bodies in Yugoslavia...I noticed that within the past few days, 'our' side has now suddenly started mentioning possible 'human shields'...methinks that this is the 'spin' being presented to the public to explain the bodies that are mounting...if WE killed them, it wasn't that we were aiming for them, not even that it was a case of our missiles going astray...now, it's the 'fault' of the enemy, THEY are the ones who put people in the way of our bombs... :-7 June *===* It is not enough that yearly, down this hill, April Comes like an idiot, babbling and strewing flowers. -- Edna St. Vincent Mallay: Spring *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The bombing of Yugoslavia
-Caveat Lector- Does anyone else find it strange as in conflict of interest that Christiane Amanpour (spelling?) is married to Clinton appointee Rubin. And isn't he the one charged with mishandling the Native American trust funds? Is this true? If so, we have direct White House influence in CNN coverage, which is obvious. However, it is blatant to the point of insult when they are literally married to each other. I used to think she was brave to go to all those places. They really think we will believe anything!! Amelia DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The bombing of Yugoslavia
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Mark Pitt wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Hello CTRL, > I have question for any of you observing the bombing of Yugoslavia. Has anyone seen >on any major media news service the full consequences of the bombing of Yugoslavia? I >have only to date seen the structural damage to buildings and other types of >structures being done. I have yet to see any dead bodies as in dead people in any of >the stuff broadcast on T.V.. I have heard the newscatsters repeatally report that >some numbers of people have been rumored to have been killed by Serbian officeals. I >would bet even money they are not showing any of the dead bodies or dead people in >the views of bombed out buildings and structures in order to propagandally sanitize >the bombing going on over there. If the general public were allowed to view the >entire consequences of the bombing over there I think they would view this very >differently. There is a mass campaign to try and enlist new young recruits to all >branches of the military. In my oppinion if they saw on T.V. the actual bodies of >dead people as a direct result of war I seriously doubt they would enlist. I would >like to hear anyones oppinion concern the topic of the medias lack of total reporting >of the Bombing of Yugoslavia. They to date are only broadcasting half truths if that >much. Have a great day :-) I chanced on CNN "Headline News" coverage yesterday which amazingly gave the Serb side -- but this was early afternoon on a work day (Friday) so who knows how many saw it or if it was broadcast later during prime time. The segment showed an activist group in San Francisco which had teamed with Serb Americans. A nationwide series of protests is reportedly set for April 17 here in U.S. Also shown was video smuggled out of Yugoslavia and shot by a group of activists who'd gone there to hear and report the Serb voices and what they say. Footage of destroyed civilian housing; footage of rock concert in Yugoslavia; one young woman saying, passionately, that the Serbs don't want war but they will fight for their homeland. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The bombing of Yugoslavia
-Caveat Lector- how could anyone be stupid enough not to figure out that this would kill people? what the hell do they think these bombs are for? you're right about the media sanitising war though, or at least the institution. i saw a documentary on modern weaponry, stuff that was used in the gulf war and the like, and this US army PR asshole was talking about this new missile they had that could puncture a tanks army, destroying the tank and the 'equipment' inside. luckily the reporter was quick enough to notice the newspeak and said "don't you mean it'll puncture the tank's hull and _kill_ the _people_ inside?" and the PR asshole got rather uncomfortable and muttered an affirmative another thing, it only seems to be in the western media that events are sanatised as such, when some tourists were killed by rwandan rebels recently, in Uganda (i think), the reporters were asking the Ugandan authorities if they'd had any luck catching the rebels and the man said to them: "We have, i think, managed to kill 8 of them, we have soldiers trying to find the rest" there's nothing like a bit of brutal honesty, shame you have to go to Africa to get it. >Hello CTRL, >I have question for any of you observing the bombing of Yugoslavia. Has >anyone seen on any major media news service the full consequences of the >bombing of Yugoslavia? I have only to date seen the structural damage to >buildings and other types of structures being done. I have yet to see any >dead bodies as in dead people in any of the stuff broadcast on T.V.. I >have heard the newscatsters repeatally report that some numbers of people >have been rumored to have been killed by Serbian officeals. I would bet >even money they are not showing any of the dead bodies or dead people in >the views of bombed out buildings and structures in order to propagandally >sanitize the bombing going on over there. If the general public were >allowed to view the entire consequences of the bombing over there I think >they would view this very differently. There is a mass campaign to try and >enlist new young recruits to all branches of the military. In my oppinion >if they saw on T.V. the actual bodies of dead people as a direct result of >war I seriously doubt they would enlist. I would like to hear anyones >oppinion concern the topic of the medias lack of total reporting of the >Bombing of Yugoslavia. They to date are only broadcasting half truths if >that much. Have a great day :-) > >Best regards, >Mark Allen Pitt :-) A.A.S. ;-) aka Scroll lock *.* BBS >ICQ number; 4861371 >email; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Home Page; http://www.geocities.com/Area51/9357 >Zero Mass Energy; The Study of Free Systems. > >DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER >== >CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic >screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters >and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright >frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects >spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL >gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; >be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and >nazi's need not apply. > >Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > >Archives Available at: >http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > >http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > >To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: >SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: >SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
