Re: [CTRL] Hello

2004-08-10 Thread John Szocik
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please explain this, i'm lost
I also received messages from you concerning the posible illegal use of my email account from an outside source. aqlso seending huge amounts of spam 
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Re: [CTRL] hello, new girl, anyone else getting viruses around here?

2003-07-06 Thread Rowena Thursby
Title: Message
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Hello I'm new to this list. Have been having virus 
trouble since I joined. Wondered if anyone else is getting 
it? After 2 years of no viruses I am now getting about one a day - 
always the same title - "WORM_KLEZ.H" but different e-mail titles (the one today 
had my name - re:rowenathursby,so cool a flash, enjoy). My PC-Cillin 
anti-virus programme alerts me each time and I delete, but this is a pain I 
could do without. Anyone else getting 
this?

I like Icke's first books - And the Truth Shall set you free - is 
one I often refer to. What makes people think he's spreading 
disinformation? I know he's off-beam with the reptilian stuff but in the 
beginning, a lot of what he wrote seemed pretty sound to me,with the 
proviso thateverything you read needs 
corroboration.

Rowena (UK)

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ole 
  Gerstrm 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 7:47 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] Was Hitler A 
  Rothschild?
  -Caveat Lector- 
  
  

  Dear Zuukie,
  
  David Icke is a thorough researcher. He has guts. His 
  productionis a breakthrough of magnitude.In your long ranting, you 
  have not proven one word wrong in his writings.
  
  Yours, Ole Gerstrom
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Zuukie 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 2:44 
AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Was Hitler A 
Rothschild?
-Caveat Lector- 

Caveat Lector 
sure fits anything coming out of a Icke site. It's obvious that no 
scholar is ever going to take the time to challenge that basket of bullshit 
because it's only disinformation served up for obvious deflecting 
purposes. There are only a limited number of people who care about 
what is going on in the cultural change. A certain number of newbies 
in this group will look atthe Icke material and assume that he has 
gone into depth with his research. That frees them from the 
responsibility of analyzing things on their own, that being the assumption 
that they can never find out more than Icke has already told 
them. It's in good hands, they feel, if it is in Icke's hands. 
Icke's books and tapes sell well in the New Age and Afrocentric 
bookstores. They emotionally support the "What have they done to me 
lately?" New Age, Afrocentric, and militia crowd who are too lazy to 
do any searches on their own, thinking that since they've found Icke's 
material that's all they need to do, and this is more than their neighbors 
have done. More important than Icke's rantings is finding out who is 
behind Icke and why they are using shovels to present their material? 
Come on Shannon. Tell us who is behind Icke and his disinformation 
promotion.

  
  -Original Message-TFrom: Conspiracy 
  Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  William ShannonSent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 5:35 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [CTRL] Was 
  Hitler A Rothschild?-Caveat Lector- http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/hitler.html
  WAS HITLER A ROTHSCHILD?by David Icke Official history is merely a veil to hide 
the truth of what really happened. When the veil is lifted, again and 
again we see that not only is the official version not true, it is often 
100% wrong. Take the Rothschilds, the bloodline formerly known, 
among other names, as the Bauers, one of the most notorious black occult 
bloodlines of Middle Ages Germany. It became known as Rothschild 
(red-shield or rotes-schild in German) in the 18th century when a 
financial dynasty was founded in Frankfurt by Mayer Amschel Rothschild 
working in league with the Illuminati House of Hesse and others. They 
took their name from the red shield or hexagram/Star of David on the 
front of their house in Frankfurt. The Star of David or Seal of Solomon 
is an ancient esoteric symbol and only became associated with Jewish 
people after the Rothschilds adopted it for themselves. It has 
absolutely no connection to "David" or "Solomon", as Jewish historical 
sources confirm. The Rothschilds are one of the top Illuminati 
bloodlines on the planet and they are shape-shifting reptilians (see The 
Biggest Secret). Guy de Rothschild, of the French House, heads 
this bloodline dynasty today. He is one of the most grotesque exponents 
of trauma-based mind control, indeed the top man according to many of 
those who have suffered mercilessly under his torture. I am always loath 
to use the world evil, but if evil is the reverse of live, Guy de 
Rothschild is thoroughly evil. He stands for the opposite of life. He 
has been personally responsible for the torture and death of millions of 
children and adults, either directly or 

Re: [CTRL] hello, new girl, anyone else getting viruses around here?

2003-07-06 Thread Mike Smith
Title: Message
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Not I... but if you happen to be on winmx 
downloading Noam Chomsky Manufacturing Consent VCD 1/3 (500 or so megs) 
watch out my antivirus blocked it out.(forget which 
virus)...3/3is clean...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rowena Thursby 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 10:04 
AM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] hello, new girl, 
  anyone else getting viruses around here?
  -Caveat Lector- 
  
  Hello I'm new to this list. Have been having virus 
  trouble since I joined. Wondered if anyone else is getting 
  it? After 2 years of no viruses I am now getting about one a day - 
  always the same title - "WORM_KLEZ.H" but different e-mail titles (the one 
  today had my name - re:rowenathursby,so cool a flash, enjoy). My 
  PC-Cillin anti-virus programme alerts me each time and I delete, but this is a 
  pain I could do without. Anyone else getting 
  this?
  
  I like Icke's first books - And the Truth Shall set you free - 
  is one I often refer to. What makes people think he's spreading 
  disinformation? I know he's off-beam with the reptilian stuff but in the 
  beginning, a lot of what he wrote seemed pretty sound to me,with the 
  proviso thateverything you read needs 
  corroboration.
  
  Rowena (UK)
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Ole 
Gerstrm 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 7:47 
AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Was Hitler A 
Rothschild?
-Caveat Lector- 



Dear Zuukie,

David Icke is a thorough researcher. He has guts. His 
productionis a breakthrough of magnitude.In your long ranting, 
you have not proven one word wrong in his writings.

Yours, Ole Gerstrom

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Zuukie 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 2:44 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] Was Hitler A 
  Rothschild?
  -Caveat Lector- 
  
  Caveat 
  Lector sure fits anything coming out of a Icke site. It's obvious 
  that no scholar is ever going to take the time to challenge that basket of 
  bullshit because it's only disinformation served up for obvious deflecting 
  purposes. There are only a limited number of people who care about 
  what is going on in the cultural change. A certain number of newbies 
  in this group will look atthe Icke material and assume that he has 
  gone into depth with his research. That frees them from the 
  responsibility of analyzing things on their own, that being the assumption 
  that they can never find out more than Icke has already told 
  them. It's in good hands, they feel, if it is in Icke's hands. 
  Icke's books and tapes sell well in the New Age and Afrocentric 
  bookstores. They emotionally support the "What have they done to me 
  lately?" New Age, Afrocentric, and militia crowd who are too lazy to 
  do any searches on their own, thinking that since they've found Icke's 
  material that's all they need to do, and this is more than their neighbors 
  have done. More important than Icke's rantings is finding out who is 
  behind Icke and why they are using shovels to present their 
  material? Come on Shannon. Tell us who is behind Icke and his 
  disinformation promotion.
  

-Original Message-TFrom: Conspiracy 
Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
William ShannonSent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 5:35 
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [CTRL] Was 
Hitler A Rothschild?-Caveat Lector- http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/hitler.html
WAS HITLER A ROTHSCHILD?by David 
  Icke Official history is 
  merely a veil to hide the truth of what really happened. When the veil 
  is lifted, again and again we see that not only is the official 
  version not true, it is often 100% wrong. Take the 
  Rothschilds, the bloodline formerly known, among other names, as the 
  Bauers, one of the most notorious black occult bloodlines of Middle 
  Ages Germany. It became known as Rothschild (red-shield or 
  rotes-schild in German) in the 18th century when a financial dynasty 
  was founded in Frankfurt by Mayer Amschel Rothschild working in league 
  with the Illuminati House of Hesse and others. They took their name 
  from the red shield or hexagram/Star of David on the front of their 
  house in Frankfurt. The Star of David or Seal of Solomon is an ancient 
  esoteric symbol and only became associated with Jewish people after 
  the Rothschilds adopted it for themselves. It has absolutely no 
  connection to "David" or "Solomon", as Jewish historical sources 
  confirm. The Rothschilds are one of the top Illuminati bloodlines on 

Re: [CTRL] Hello Anybody There?

2001-10-04 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 10/4/01 8:18:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have only gotten one letter all day yesterday and all night today -
just one letter?

Anybody else having a problem?   Did I tee anybody off?

Saba 

Have you checked to see if you are pluged into the wall socket? Check your
antenna and clean all the birdie do-do off it.
Just some suggestions

Bill
I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to a vegetarian.

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Re: [CTRL] Hello

2001-09-20 Thread Fernando Sobral

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Try here:

http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=6977group=webcast

Saludos,
Fer
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Can anyone tell me the web page or source for the 4000 Israelis not going to
their jobs on 9/11/01?  Please let me know?

Thanks

Bill

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Re: [CTRL] hello

2001-09-11 Thread Tenorlove

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Thanks, I'll take it as a compliment. Maybe I should have posted the
full headers after all.. :-D

--- Mattingly Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 : This is one of the regular posters using a new alias and playing
 the
 : newbie. The writing style raised my hackles. I thought it was
 : someone who has been pestering me on another list.
 :
 : Tenorlove
 :


 This is insulting and absolutely untrue.  I have never posted to this
 list.
 But I will certainly unsub.

 Before I go: anyone interested in Masonry and its history should look
 at the
 articles in the Eighteenth-Century Studies Journal vol 33 number 2 ,
 Johns
 Hopkins Univ Press.  To paint all masonry as diabolical etc. is
 absurd. The
 US Constitution is essentially a Masonic document. Separation of
 religion
 and state (the original wording) was the very core of Masonry in that
 age.

 The CNP -- if you want to study conspiracy, please look there first.
 Good
 place to start : http://www.ifas.org/cnp/

 Truly, I am amazed at your pomposity Tenorlove.   You pass judgment
 on the
 basis of nothing.  Maybe you see your own reflection too often, I
 don't
 know.  But if this is your approach to truth -- please.  Try a little
 more
 empiricism and a little less ego. Unless you are here to be
 counterproductive?

 Cheers,
 Deborah

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[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] hello

2001-09-11 Thread lassey

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From: inri [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:46:17 -0400
Subject: Re: [CTRL] hello

 All problems are economic and to tell the truth I am sick of reading
 about 6 million jews being killed in holocaust to the exclusion of the
 55 million others also killed primarily the American Soldier who was
 told he was fighting for the Constitution, who is now told - hey you
 died for the jews and gypsies and homosexuals and lesbians - what a
pile
 of shit.

according to most sources, america had no significant casualties in the
second world war. less than 50 000 i believe.

the russians, on the other hand, lost almost 20 million and the chinese
were
very close to that as well. germany and england were both near 10
million.
even canada lost more life than america did.

hi deborah. listen to saba.

inri
np: ckcu

http://chat.carleton.ca/~jparent2/

I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family. - george w.
bush

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] hello

2001-09-11 Thread Mattingly Conner

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Yes...Russians lost ~ 1 in 10.  Literally decimated.  Imagine.

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Re: [CTRL] hello/Germany protests

2001-09-10 Thread Samantha L.

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In a message dated 9/10/01 10:01:52 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Hello all,

  I'm interested in the CNP, and very interested in this list's stated
  purpose.

  Hi Deborah, what's the CNP?

  Have you tried to
  protest Bush?  You're roped off, made invisible as his puppet supporters
are
  bused in -- and they are what the media shows on the tube. 'Least that's
  what happened her in KC.  So -- sure lookin like Germany in the the 1930's
  to me.

  It looks like Germany in the 30's to me too.  Yesterday, I read an article
about the Bush protesting phenomenon, because the same thing just happened
in Green Bay, WI.  (Article below.)

  Info is out there, along with big
  fat vats and tubs of misinfo -- especially on the internet. What we need is
  serious research and hard info, else it all becomes the x files real quick.
  I hope that's what you're all about here.

  I hope you will contribute what you've discovered after sorting through the
vats of disinfo.  In my opinion, this list has a lot of everything: from good
info to highly deleteable info.  It can be frustrating to slog through
everything that's presented, but there are enough gems here to keep me coming
back, at least.   Samantha
---
Subj:EVERYDAY, THEY ARE CHIPPING AWAY AT OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES
Date:   9/9/01 10:55:54 AM Central Daylight Time
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BuzzFlash.com)
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BuzzFlash.com found this column by Tom Perry of the Green Bay (Wisconsin)
Press-Gazzette so compelling that we are forwarding it to you as an alert.

(View at http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/news/archive/local_1089575.shtml)

Tom Perry column: Free speech squelched during visit

Even a few days after the fact, Congressman Mark Green was still excited
about riding with President Bush in his limo.

“It was fun. A lot fun,’’ Green said Thursday in a phone conversation from
Washington.

For Green, getting to travel the road from here to Kaukauna and back with the
president had to be something of a political and personal slam-dunk.

There are 535 members of Congress. A lot of them, including Republicans, will
never get as much face time with the president as Green did on Labor Day.

Troubling aspect

As the Congressman and other ardent Republicans continue to bask in the
afterglow of Monday’s presidential visit, I continue to be troubled by one
aspect of the event.

The fact that no one was allowed to bring signs to the edge of the tarmac
infringed on the rights of free expression that we are guaranteed by the
Constitution.

The fact that protesters were forbidden to go anywhere near Monday’s event
trampled on the rights of Americans to free and peaceful assembly.

Indeed, protesters were kept so far away that they might as well have been
across Wisconsin 172 playing the slot machines at Oneida Bingo  Casino.

As a result, an official visit by a sitting president, which was paid for by
taxpayers, turned into little more than a political rally for one select
group in lockstep with Republican ideology.

In contrast, when former Vice President Al Gore spoke at Bay Beach Amusement
Park last summer, sign-carrying protesters and hecklers were on the lawn well
within view and earshot of Democratic Party supporters.

Green explained on Thursday that the details for presidential visits are
worked out between the Secret Service and local law-enforcement agencies.

“All of the steps that were taken, all of the decisions that were made were
not political,’’ Green said.

In other words, security concerns override everything else, including the
fundamental rights of individuals.

The Secret Service and law-enforcement agencies have a tough job, especially
in these times, when there are so many nut cases around.

But sometimes I feel as if excessive paranoia is being used as a tool to
suppress lawful and legal dissent.

Bit by bit, it seems, agencies of our government are chipping away at basic
liberties, creating an atmosphere of intolerance toward difference of opinion.

Something lost

“I’ll say I think it’s unfortunate,’’ Green said. “I don’t know if 
we’ve
become so security conscious that we’ve lost something.’’

Indeed, what we’ve lost is a sense that we have to work extra hard to protect
Constitutional rights.

As a nation, we keep making it easier and easier for law-enforcement agencies
to hide behind the phrase “legitimate safety concerns’’ as they slice away
at civil liberties.

Now I don’t know if President Bush feels the same way as I do about this. But
maybe if Mark Green ever gets to ride in the presidential limo again, he’ll
bring up the issue.

Call Tom Perry at (920) 431-8216.

Posted September 8 on the Green Bay Press-Gazzette website.

GIVE TOM A CALL IF YOU WANT TO BOLSTER SUPPORT FOR JOURNALISTS WHO ARE
BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND THE ASSAULT ON DEMOCRACY BEING UNDERTAKEN BY BUSH

Re: [CTRL] hello

2001-09-10 Thread Saba

-Caveat Lector-

Hitler went after the Masons, the Jehovah Witnesses, the Rosicrucians,
the jews in general, but first he took the big guns away did he not and
he failed to do one important thing - he did not go after the Zoinists,
in fact they got along quite well.

Zionists are murdering American Giants only the American Giants do not
give a rats ass for they have taken their big bucks elsewhere - no
longer do you see the big gasoline stations along the way and let us say
Burma Shave signs?

Well lots of whites in the country quietly unite and with their big guns
await the Zionist at the door in disguise - it is beginning, haven't you
noticed?

Black Death is already at the door - those who will be saved will be the
ones who do not intermingle with blacks and queers and sodomists or
whatever you call these people Gay Priders - with Brindle Brown Rainbow
creatures waiting to take over white man's dreams -

Way to get rid of the garbage - cut off the welfare, vote no and watch
the run for freedom elsewhere.

All problems are economic and to tell the truth I am sick of reading
about 6 million jews being killed in holocaust to the exclusion of the
55 million others also killed primarily the American Soldier who was
told he was fighting for the Constitution, who is now told - hey you
died for the jews and gypsies and homosexuals and lesbians - what a pile
of shit.

America can be great again - no more melting pot where the scum also
rises with the aid of the executioner's songs.

Saba

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Re: [CTRL] hello

2001-09-10 Thread inri

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 All problems are economic and to tell the truth I am sick of reading
 about 6 million jews being killed in holocaust to the exclusion of the
 55 million others also killed primarily the American Soldier who was
 told he was fighting for the Constitution, who is now told - hey you
 died for the jews and gypsies and homosexuals and lesbians - what a pile
 of shit.

according to most sources, america had no significant casualties in the
second world war. less than 50 000 i believe.

the russians, on the other hand, lost almost 20 million and the chinese were
very close to that as well. germany and england were both near 10 million.
even canada lost more life than america did.

hi deborah. don't listen to saba.

inri
np: ckcu

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Re: [CTRL] hello

2001-09-10 Thread William Shannon
In a message dated 9/10/01 10:01:52 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:


The Rothschilds aren't Jewish? Huh?

That's a new one on me too...more revisionist history I s'pose...

Bill.


Re: [CTRL] hello

2001-09-10 Thread Nurev Ind.

-Caveat Lector-

Saba wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-

 Hitler went after the Masons, the Jehovah Witnesses, the Rosicrucians,
 the jews in general, but first he took the big guns away did he not and
 he failed to do one important thing - he did not go after the Zoinists,
 in fact they got along quite well.

 Zionists are murdering American Giants only the American Giants do not
 give a rats ass for they have taken their big bucks elsewhere - no
 longer do you see the big gasoline stations along the way and let us say
 Burma Shave signs?

 Well lots of whites in the country quietly unite and with their big guns
 await the Zionist at the door in disguise - it is beginning, haven't you
 noticed?

 Black Death is already at the door - those who will be saved will be the
 ones who do not intermingle with blacks and queers and sodomists or
 whatever you call these people Gay Priders - with Brindle Brown Rainbow
 creatures waiting to take over white man's dreams -

 Way to get rid of the garbage - cut off the welfare, vote no and watch
 the run for freedom elsewhere.

 All problems are economic and to tell the truth I am sick of reading
 about 6 million jews being killed in holocaust to the exclusion of the
 55 million others also killed primarily the American Soldier who was
 told he was fighting for the Constitution, who is now told - hey you
 died for the jews and gypsies and homosexuals and lesbians - what a pile
 of shit.

 America can be great again - no more melting pot where the scum also
 rises with the aid of the executioner's songs.

 Saba

You're off your  drugs again aren't you looney bird?
Didn't your doctor warn you about this?

J2

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Re: [CTRL] hello

2001-09-10 Thread Tenorlove

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This is one of the regular posters using a new alias and playing the
newbie. The writing style raised my hackles. I thought it was
someone who has been pestering me on another list.

Tenorlove


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Re: [CTRL] hello

2001-09-10 Thread Mattingly Conner

-Caveat Lector-

: This is one of the regular posters using a new alias and playing the
: newbie. The writing style raised my hackles. I thought it was
: someone who has been pestering me on another list.
:
: Tenorlove
:


This is insulting and absolutely untrue.  I have never posted to this list.
But I will certainly unsub.

Before I go: anyone interested in Masonry and its history should look at the
articles in the Eighteenth-Century Studies Journal vol 33 number 2 , Johns
Hopkins Univ Press.  To paint all masonry as diabolical etc. is absurd. The
US Constitution is essentially a Masonic document. Separation of religion
and state (the original wording) was the very core of Masonry in that age.

The CNP -- if you want to study conspiracy, please look there first. Good
place to start : http://www.ifas.org/cnp/

Truly, I am amazed at your pomposity Tenorlove.   You pass judgment on the
basis of nothing.  Maybe you see your own reflection too often, I don't
know.  But if this is your approach to truth -- please.  Try a little more
empiricism and a little less ego. Unless you are here to be
counterproductive?

Cheers,
Deborah

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Re: [CTRL] HELLO COMRADES -- ALGERIA MEETING -- Antiimperialist Camp News

2001-06-21 Thread Michael Pugliese

-Caveat Lector-

   I love it! Schlafley followed by this in the digest! These be the
comrades from the International Leninist Current, no? The Milosevic fan
club?
Like those old Soviet Peace Council meetings?
Michael Pugliese

Message: 4
   Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:17:20 EDT
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HELLO COMRADES -- ALGERIA MEETING -- Antiimperialist Camp News

Subj:Open Letter to 15th World Festival in Algeria
Date:   6/20/2001 8:39:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Open letter to the International Preparatory Committee of the 15th World
Festival of Youth and Students in Algeria

Dear comrades,

Please accept our fraternal greetings to you and all the participants of the
forthcoming international festival. We welcome the festival as one
expression
of the struggle against imperialism which is suffocating the peoples of the
world and even threatening the very existence of humanity. In order to
defeat
our common enemy all the anti-imperialist forces around the world must
co-operate and strive to join hands in this struggle for life and death.
This
is why we propose that we mutually exchange delegation between the World
Festival, August 8-16, and the Anti-imperialist Camp, Assisi, July 28-August
5.

However, we have some burning questions regarding the most urgent
necessities
of the global anti-imperialist struggle:

Why have you chosen Algeria as the place to meet? You must have been aware
of
the civil war raging in this tortured county since one decade during which
the regime has proved to be a model pupil of the IMF? (as your German
preparatory committee admits it openly; see
http://weltfestspiele.online.de/kabylei1.html, May 29, 2001) You refer to
the
glorious Algerian liberation struggle but these times have definitely gone.
Already in 1988 the Algerian youth has been protesting against the austerity
programme imposed on them by the regime servile to imperialism and was
crushed violently. Non of the popular demands have been met and in the early
90ies a military dictatorship has been erected in order to keep the
pro-Western regime in power against the free will of the overwhelming
majority of the population. And why you keep insisting in this emergency
situation? Today the regime is about to repress another legitimate social
rebellion blaming it to be separatist. But this is simply a pretext as the
movement in Kabylia has met strong echo in the poor arabophone youth and has
explicitly stated to defend the national unity of Algeria as a gain of the
liberation struggle. Do you really think that an anti-imperialist gathering
can take the support of such a regime and thus support it politically?

And what about the solidarity with the Palestinian people? Their new
Intifada
is a cry for international solidarity. With no word you mention the
necessity
to stop the Zionist massacre and that all democratic and peace-loving forces
of the world urgently have to rally behind this sorely afflicted people to
defend their most elementary human right against the Israeli and Western
humanitarian crusaders: the right of self-determination.

We also have to insist on the solidarity with the Colombian people. One of
the most powerful popular movements of the world is defending itself in arms
against a cruel war unleashed by the narco-oligarchy backed by US
imperialism. Millions have lost their land and have been displaced, tens of
thousands of militant peasants and workers have been killed by the death
squads. With the Plan Colombia imperialism is stepping up its aggression.
Therefore we have to take immediate action.

We hope that you will consider our suggestions and will choose a different
place for the festival. We would be happy if we could reach commitments for
common action not only referring to the solidarity with the most outstanding
anti-imperialist struggles but also for a more general and systematic
co-operation which should be the concrete outcome of our  international
gatherings.

With the most fraternal anti-imperialist greetings
The political committee of the anti-imperialist camp
June 19, 2001




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Re: [CTRL] Hello is anyone out there? Am I being edited off list?

2000-08-09 Thread Kris Millegan

Everything you write has a common-law copyright, if you wish you may register
it with the US government or other entities

There is no pre-editing of this list. If your mails are not showing-up, I'd
suggest you may be posting wrong or some other technical glitch.

Om
K

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I have had some e-mails not show up on list and then
at least one that I addressed to Kris in the subject
line not answered.

I need to know if there is any potential that
my science fiction scribbling (essay rough drafts)
could be copyrighted as medical concepts.
Someone has given me some problems, and the
way that they put those writings down makes me
wonder if there is an ulterior motive.

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Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

1999-01-07 Thread MARK

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Well, you can both go forth, I will have the last word

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 07 January 1999 04:00
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 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

  -Caveat Lector-

 On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:48:38 +0100 Source - Richard
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  -Caveat Lector-
 
 
 That's easy for you to say, you haven't been insulted from here to
 next
 Sunday, stay out of the picture, bub!!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Source - Richard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 04 January 1999 10:51
  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:  Re: [CTRL] hello (again)
 
   -Caveat Lector-
 
  I think it's time to take a deep breath and stop this bickering.
 Come
  on guys - cool down.
 
 
 snip
 
 It's stuff like that that will keep this going on...
 
 
 Jesse Dolan
 "Insane Hippie"
 www.geocities.com/area51/stargate/8954/index.htm
 
 Oh, i see, you have to have the last word do you. The goddamn
 argument
 had stopped after my message. It's stuff like what you posted that
 keeps
 things going.
 
 (by the way, i know you will accuse me of having the last word but i
 couldn't let you get away with that!!!)
 

 Sorry, with the emails that I got at the time seemed to show that the
 argument was still going...
 sorry bout that...
 you want the last word, go for it. It doesn't bother me.

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Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

1999-01-06 Thread Source - Richard

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That's easy for you to say, you haven't been insulted from here to
next
Sunday, stay out of the picture, bub!!

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 04 January 1999 10:51
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

  -Caveat Lector-

 I think it's time to take a deep breath and stop this bickering.
Come
 on guys - cool down.


snip

It's stuff like that that will keep this going on...


Jesse Dolan
"Insane Hippie"
www.geocities.com/area51/stargate/8954/index.htm

Oh, i see, you have to have the last word do you. The goddamn argument
had stopped after my message. It's stuff like what you posted that keeps
things going.

(by the way, i know you will accuse me of having the last word but i
couldn't let you get away with that!!!)

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Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

1999-01-06 Thread Jesse M Dolan

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On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:48:38 +0100 Source - Richard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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That's easy for you to say, you haven't been insulted from here to
next
Sunday, stay out of the picture, bub!!

 -Original Message-
 From: Source - Richard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 04 January 1999 10:51
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

  -Caveat Lector-

 I think it's time to take a deep breath and stop this bickering.
Come
 on guys - cool down.


snip

It's stuff like that that will keep this going on...


Jesse Dolan
"Insane Hippie"
www.geocities.com/area51/stargate/8954/index.htm

Oh, i see, you have to have the last word do you. The goddamn argument
had stopped after my message. It's stuff like what you posted that
keeps
things going.

(by the way, i know you will accuse me of having the last word but i
couldn't let you get away with that!!!)


Sorry, with the emails that I got at the time seemed to show that the
argument was still going...
sorry bout that...
you want the last word, go for it. It doesn't bother me.

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Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

1999-01-05 Thread E Mael

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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
In a message dated 1/4/99 10:49:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Well, I will tell you one thing I am NEVER going to call the Art Bell
show!
  Because if I do then the whole list will erupt into a flame war like
WWIII!
  Teo1000

And IF you do we're coming to your house and rip your damned phone out!!
I'm
already expecting the riot police to show up here at any time with their
tear
gas canisters and rubber bullets, which means that someone is going to get
hurt. Then how will you feel, Teo?!!  Don't ever, EVER call the Bell show!

All the best,
Jim


as long as we are on the subject; i think that the problems erupted
because you did not call the art bell show, so hurry up and call, so we
can clear all this up.

chris

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Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-05 Thread Teo1000

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In a message dated 1/4/99 10:54:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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 Yeah, Teo, why'd you call that damn Art Bell show?

 kt 

'Cause I knew it would cause so much disruption around here!!!  WOW!
Seriously it was NOT me calling Art Bell, but I am still waiting for someone
to tell me what was discussed and why they thought it was me who was calling.
Teo1000
FRUSTRATED

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Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

1999-01-05 Thread Source - Richard

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lol

E Mael wrote:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
In a message dated 1/4/99 10:49:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Well, I will tell you one thing I am NEVER going to call the Art Bell
show!
  Because if I do then the whole list will erupt into a flame war like
WWIII!
  Teo1000

And IF you do we're coming to your house and rip your damned phone out!!
I'm
already expecting the riot police to show up here at any time with their
tear
gas canisters and rubber bullets, which means that someone is going to get
hurt. Then how will you feel, Teo?!!  Don't ever, EVER call the Bell show!

All the best,
Jim


as long as we are on the subject; i think that the problems erupted
because you did not call the art bell show, so hurry up and call, so we
can clear all this up.

chris

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Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

1999-01-05 Thread Jesse M Dolan

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On Mon, 4 Jan 1999 00:00:20 - MARK [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 -Caveat Lector-

That's easy for you to say, you haven't been insulted from here to
next
Sunday, stay out of the picture, bub!!

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 04 January 1999 10:51
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 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

  -Caveat Lector-

 I think it's time to take a deep breath and stop this bickering.
Come
 on guys - cool down.


snip

It's stuff like that that will keep this going on...


Jesse Dolan
"Insane Hippie"
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Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

1999-01-04 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Jesse M Dolan wrote:
Hold on, I was the person who asked Teo if he was on Art Bell. Because I
was the one who started this whole thread of messages and somehow a
simple question turns into a strange fight or something.

Hah!  She can't even remember her own posts from those of other people!
:-7


Anyone else here totally confused.

I for one am...she went off on me a few weeks ago when I posted a teasing
reply to something she had posted regarding people from New England --
took it as a personal affront...

She apparantly had the same knee-jerk reaction to my satiric reply to
Teo...

She's sent me a private email saying she takes teasing as a personal
insult...in which case, she'd be better off not even getting on the
Internet, if the few teases from me get's her so bent out of shape,
she'll go off the deep end when some really serious DEBATES get
started...she needs to develop a thicker skin...

She seems to be a person who can't take any criticism, even of a light
and teasing type...one can only imagine what we'll see from her when
someone REALLY takes her to task on some subject...


I think that everyone is getting confused and that
simple jokes were getting misunderstood as insults.

Thank you.  Anyone who's been on this list for any amount of time knows
that _I_ have been here for some time too...and that what I posted is
extremely mild compared to what I COULD post (and have in the past)...

I don't go looking for meaningless fights like Lynne seems to want to
pick...but I don't run from them when they go out their way to find me,
either...


June

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Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

1999-01-04 Thread MARK

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That's easy for you to say, you haven't been insulted from here to next
Sunday, stay out of the picture, bub!!

 -Original Message-
 From: Source - Richard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 04 January 1999 10:51
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

  -Caveat Lector-

 I think it's time to take a deep breath and stop this bickering. Come
 on guys - cool down.

 YnrChyldzWyld wrote:
  -Caveat Lector-
 
 On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Jesse M Dolan wrote:
 Hold on, I was the person who asked Teo if he was on Art Bell.
 Because I
 was the one who started this whole thread of messages and somehow a
 simple question turns into a strange fight or something.
 
 Hah!  She can't even remember her own posts from those of other
 people!
 :-7
 
 
 Anyone else here totally confused.
 
 I for one am...she went off on me a few weeks ago when I posted a
 teasing
 reply to something she had posted regarding people from New England
 --
 took it as a personal affront...
 
 She apparantly had the same knee-jerk reaction to my satiric reply to
 Teo...
 
 She's sent me a private email saying she takes teasing as a personal
 insult...in which case, she'd be better off not even getting on the
 Internet, if the few teases from me get's her so bent out of shape,
 she'll go off the deep end when some really serious DEBATES get
 started...she needs to develop a thicker skin...
 
 She seems to be a person who can't take any criticism, even of a
 light
 and teasing type...one can only imagine what we'll see from her when
 someone REALLY takes her to task on some subject...
 
 
 I think that everyone is getting confused and that
 simple jokes were getting misunderstood as insults.
 
 Thank you.  Anyone who's been on this list for any amount of time
 knows
 that _I_ have been here for some time too...and that what I posted is
 extremely mild compared to what I COULD post (and have in the
 past)...
 
 I don't go looking for meaningless fights like Lynne seems to want to
 pick...but I don't run from them when they go out their way to find
 me,
 either...
 
 
 June
 
 
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   Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear.
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Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

1999-01-04 Thread Source - Richard

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Hey pal, i said STOP BICKERING. You come on here with your high and mighty attitude. 
Do you want to make something of it you sanctimonious crabfish!!!

MARK wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

That's easy for you to say, you haven't been insulted from here to next
Sunday, stay out of the picture, bub!!

 -Original Message-
 From: Source - Richard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 04 January 1999 10:51
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

  -Caveat Lector-

 I think it's time to take a deep breath and stop this bickering. Come
 on guys - cool down.

 YnrChyldzWyld wrote:
  -Caveat Lector-
 
 On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Jesse M Dolan wrote:
 Hold on, I was the person who asked Teo if he was on Art Bell.
 Because I
 was the one who started this whole thread of messages and somehow a
 simple question turns into a strange fight or something.
 
 Hah!  She can't even remember her own posts from those of other
 people!
 :-7
 
 
 Anyone else here totally confused.
 
 I for one am...she went off on me a few weeks ago when I posted a
 teasing
 reply to something she had posted regarding people from New England
 --
 took it as a personal affront...
 
 She apparantly had the same knee-jerk reaction to my satiric reply to
 Teo...
 
 She's sent me a private email saying she takes teasing as a personal
 insult...in which case, she'd be better off not even getting on the
 Internet, if the few teases from me get's her so bent out of shape,
 she'll go off the deep end when some really serious DEBATES get
 started...she needs to develop a thicker skin...
 
 She seems to be a person who can't take any criticism, even of a
 light
 and teasing type...one can only imagine what we'll see from her when
 someone REALLY takes her to task on some subject...
 
 
 I think that everyone is getting confused and that
 simple jokes were getting misunderstood as insults.
 
 Thank you.  Anyone who's been on this list for any amount of time
 knows
 that _I_ have been here for some time too...and that what I posted is
 extremely mild compared to what I COULD post (and have in the
 past)...
 
 I don't go looking for meaningless fights like Lynne seems to want to
 pick...but I don't run from them when they go out their way to find
 me,
 either...
 
 
 June
 
 
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Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

1999-01-04 Thread Source - Richard

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Hey schmuck, it's people like you who give this list a bad name.
I was willing to support you with your 'Death Of Diana' transcript and the subsequent 
effect on your life - well you can forget it. I don't need this shit. I have enough on 
my plate with the weekly meetings, newsletters, European Society gatherings and the 
government fucking 24 hour watch on my premises.

Now unless you have something constructive to add to the list please leave us alone 
and finish your book.

MARK wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

Hey Finkster, how dare you come on here and bark at me like some little
Junkyard Dog!!!  I know of you and your so called "Society" - The
Source, and all you are is a bunch of scaremongering propagandists, so
why don't you crawl back under you little rock, and leave the rest of us
to it.

SCHMUCK

 -Original Message-
 From: Source - Richard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 04 January 1999 11:08
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

  -Caveat Lector-

 Hey pal, i said STOP BICKERING. You come on here with your high and
 mighty attitude. Do you want to make something of it you sanctimonious
 crabfish!!!

 MARK wrote:
  -Caveat Lector-
 
 That's easy for you to say, you haven't been insulted from here to
 next
 Sunday, stay out of the picture, bub!!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Source - Richard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 04 January 1999 10:51
  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:  Re: [CTRL] hello (again)
 
   -Caveat Lector-
 
  I think it's time to take a deep breath and stop this bickering.
 Come
  on guys - cool down.
 
  YnrChyldzWyld wrote:
   -Caveat Lector-
  
  On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Jesse M Dolan wrote:
  Hold on, I was the person who asked Teo if he was on Art Bell.
  Because I
  was the one who started this whole thread of messages and somehow
 a
  simple question turns into a strange fight or something.
  
  Hah!  She can't even remember her own posts from those of other
  people!
  :-7
  
  
  Anyone else here totally confused.
  
  I for one am...she went off on me a few weeks ago when I posted a
  teasing
  reply to something she had posted regarding people from New
 England
  --
  took it as a personal affront...
  
  She apparantly had the same knee-jerk reaction to my satiric reply
 to
  Teo...
  
  She's sent me a private email saying she takes teasing as a
 personal
  insult...in which case, she'd be better off not even getting on
 the
  Internet, if the few teases from me get's her so bent out of
 shape,
  she'll go off the deep end when some really serious DEBATES get
  started...she needs to develop a thicker skin...
  
  She seems to be a person who can't take any criticism, even of a
  light
  and teasing type...one can only imagine what we'll see from her
 when
  someone REALLY takes her to task on some subject...
  
  
  I think that everyone is getting confused and that
  simple jokes were getting misunderstood as insults.
  
  Thank you.  Anyone who's been on this list for any amount of time
  knows
  that _I_ have been here for some time too...and that what I posted
 is
  extremely mild compared to what I COULD post (and have in the
  past)...
  
  I don't go looking for meaningless fights like Lynne seems to want
 to
  pick...but I don't run from them when they go out their way to
 find
  me,
  either...
  
  
  June
  
  
 
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  =
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Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and
 sear.
  -- Wm. Cullen Bryant:  The Death of the Flowers
  
 
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Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

1999-01-04 Thread MARK

 -Caveat Lector-

Listen PAL!, I wanted to keep this quiet, but you will not let go, your
psuedo friendship has caused nothing but grief.  A couple of TEST facts
that I gave you, have come back to haunt me.  I don't know to what
extent you are connected to THEM, all I know is that you are connected.

You have betrayed me, lied to me and others on this list, and now you
expect me to quietly go away, I don't think so.  I have faced bigger
threats than you, and come through.  I am making this public as a
declaration, that should anything happen, people will know that you are
in some way inextricably linked to it.

The government is INDEED watching your premises 24 hours/day, BECAUSE it
is a government run facility.  I know that you were the one that took
the papers from my front room during your last "social" visit.  I know
that these papers are now at your offices and the only way for me to get
them back  (you think) is for me to co-operate and put the issue to bed.
Well I won't, for myself, for the hard work I have put in, for my
family's suffering, and for people like me who truly know that there is
more to be uncovered regarding this incident.

 -Original Message-
 From: Source - Richard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 04 January 1999 11:18
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

  -Caveat Lector-

 Hey schmuck, it's people like you who give this list a bad name.
 I was willing to support you with your 'Death Of Diana' transcript and
 the subsequent effect on your life - well you can forget it. I don't
 need this shit. I have enough on my plate with the weekly meetings,
 newsletters, European Society gatherings and the government fucking 24
 hour watch on my premises.

 Now unless you have something constructive to add to the list please
 leave us alone and finish your book.

 MARK wrote:
  -Caveat Lector-
 
 Hey Finkster, how dare you come on here and bark at me like some
 little
 Junkyard Dog!!!  I know of you and your so called "Society" - The
 Source, and all you are is a bunch of scaremongering propagandists,
 so
 why don't you crawl back under you little rock, and leave the rest of
 us
 to it.
 
 SCHMUCK
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Source - Richard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 04 January 1999 11:08
  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:  Re: [CTRL] hello (again)
 
   -Caveat Lector-
 
  Hey pal, i said STOP BICKERING. You come on here with your high and
  mighty attitude. Do you want to make something of it you
 sanctimonious
  crabfish!!!
 
  MARK wrote:
   -Caveat Lector-
  
  That's easy for you to say, you haven't been insulted from here to
  next
  Sunday, stay out of the picture, bub!!
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Source - Richard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 04 January 1999 10:51
   To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:  Re: [CTRL] hello (again)
  
-Caveat Lector-
  
   I think it's time to take a deep breath and stop this bickering.
  Come
   on guys - cool down.
  
   YnrChyldzWyld wrote:
-Caveat Lector-
   
   On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Jesse M Dolan wrote:
   Hold on, I was the person who asked Teo if he was on Art Bell.
   Because I
   was the one who started this whole thread of messages and
 somehow
  a
   simple question turns into a strange fight or something.
   
   Hah!  She can't even remember her own posts from those of other
   people!
   :-7
   
   
   Anyone else here totally confused.
   
   I for one am...she went off on me a few weeks ago when I posted
 a
   teasing
   reply to something she had posted regarding people from New
  England
   --
   took it as a personal affront...
   
   She apparantly had the same knee-jerk reaction to my satiric
 reply
  to
   Teo...
   
   She's sent me a private email saying she takes teasing as a
  personal
   insult...in which case, she'd be better off not even getting on
  the
   Internet, if the few teases from me get's her so bent out of
  shape,
   she'll go off the deep end when some really serious DEBATES get
   started...she needs to develop a thicker skin...
   
   She seems to be a person who can't take any criticism, even of
 a
   light
   and teasing type...one can only imagine what we'll see from her
  when
   someone REALLY takes her to task on some subject...
   
   
   I think that everyone is getting confused and that
   simple jokes were getting misunderstood as insults.
   
   Thank you.  Anyone who's been on this list for any amount of
 time
   knows
   that _I_ have been here for some time too...and that what I
 posted
  is
   extremely mild compared to what I COULD post (and have in the
   past)...
   
   I don't go looking for meaningless fights like Lynne seems to
 want
  to
   pick...but I don't run from them when they go out their way to
  find
   me,
   either...
   
   
   June
   
   
  
 
 ==
   =
 The melancholy days are come, the

Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-04 Thread Teo1000

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 1/3/99 12:59:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Teo
 FWIW, I am NOT June.  Only know her through this list.  Duh !!!  If you wish
 to hallucinate that I am her, go for it but AND A BIG BUT at that, I AM NOT
 JUNE AND WILL NEVER BE ANYONE BUT LYNNE so wake up and smell the roses Teo,
 and g et your people straight.

 Lynne M Giles  and no one else but Lynne 

I NEVER said you were!  I merely quoted an article that was written by June
which included your name in the header so it may have appeared that I was
referring to you when I was referring to June.
Sorry for the confusion.
Teo1000

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Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-04 Thread Teo1000

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In a message dated 1/3/99 1:03:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 FWIW, all, I only sign up with one ISP and am not using any false names.
 Usually it is the ones who do the accusing of doing such a thing that are
 actually doing it.

 Now to get off my soapbox and pardon me to all get out for DARING to add a
bit
 of levity by the post I sent earlier in the day about great minds.  Guess I
 was mistaken about some minds (now if you want to continue insults, let's go
 for it)
 Lynne
  

Let's just take it easy here.  Don't you think you are getting carried away
here?  Someone just having a little fun, don't take it so seriously.
Teo1000

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Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

1999-01-04 Thread Hawk

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MARK wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 HAWK, sometimes you are a really good source of information.  BUT LEAVE
 OFF WHAT YOU DONT KNOW

I believe I asked a question

Hawk

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Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

1999-01-04 Thread Gerald Harp

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In a message dated 1/4/99 9:53:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:


  Look all
  As far as June is concerned, why doesn't shetell me which chat
rooms
 I
  supposedly go to and all that stuff.

How about a padded one?  Seriously, Lynne, have you considered professional
help?  You obviously have a substantial need to take umbrage.  But it sort of
gets boring even though many are egging you on.  I suggest you keep your peace
until you get your head straight.

Jerry

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Re: [CTRL] hello (again)

1999-01-04 Thread JYester

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In a message dated 1/4/99 10:49:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Well, I will tell you one thing I am NEVER going to call the Art Bell show!
  Because if I do then the whole list will erupt into a flame war like WWIII!
  Teo1000

And IF you do we're coming to your house and rip your damned phone out!!  I'm
already expecting the riot police to show up here at any time with their tear
gas canisters and rubber bullets, which means that someone is going to get
hurt. Then how will you feel, Teo?!!  Don't ever, EVER call the Bell show!

All the best,
Jim

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Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-04 Thread AGiles7207

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Teo
That is all another person and myself were asking.  Now if others hadn't
jumped in, the whole thing would never ended up the way it did.  Tempers would
NEVER have erupted, duh ( including mine)

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Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-03 Thread Teo1000

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In a message dated 1/2/99 5:44:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Hey, I was wondering the same thing.  Guess great minds think alike.
 And, p lease answer the question Teo,   inquiring minds want to knowvbg

 Lynne
  

I was NOT on the show, BUT am now DAMNED curious as to what was said to spark
the debate?!?!  Please tell me what was discussed!
Teo1000

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Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-03 Thread JYester

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In a message dated 1/3/99 12:07:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:


   Hey, I was wondering the same thing.  Guess great minds think alike.
   And, p lease answer the question Teo,   inquiring minds want to knowvbg

   Lynne


  I was NOT on the show, BUT am now DAMNED curious as to what was said to
 spark
  the debate?!?!  Please tell me what was discussed!
  Teo1000


It should be pretty obvious, Teo. We all recognized your voice.

Jim

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Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-03 Thread KA

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On Sat, 2 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, I was wondering the same thing.  Guess great minds think alike.

Or they are small minds who sign up with ISPs which provide multiple IDs,
and/or 'freebies' like Juno, Hotmail, et al, and pretend to be different
people...   ;-)



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Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-03 Thread Teo1000

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In a message dated 1/3/99 6:47:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 On Sat, 2 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey, I was wondering the same thing.  Guess great minds think alike.

 Or they are small minds who sign up with ISPs which provide multiple IDs,
 and/or 'freebies' like Juno, Hotmail, et al, and pretend to be different
 people...   ;-)



 June
  
June is that REALLY you?  LOL
Teo1000

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Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-03 Thread AGiles7207

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Teo
FWIW, I am NOT June.  Only know her through this list.  Duh !!!  If you wish
to hallucinate that I am her, go for it but AND A BIG BUT at that, I AM NOT
JUNE AND WILL NEVER BE ANYONE BUT LYNNE so wake up and smell the roses Teo,
and g et your people straight.

Lynne M Giles  and no one else but Lynne

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Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-03 Thread JYester

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In a message dated 1/3/99 1:03:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:


  FWIW, all, I only sign up with one ISP and am not using any false names.
  Usually it is the ones who do the accusing of doing such a thing that are
  actually doing it.

  Now to get off my soapbox and pardon me to all get out for DARING to add a
 bit
  of levity by the post I sent earlier in the day about great minds.  Guess I
  was mistaken about some minds (now if you want to continue insults, let's
go
  for it)
  Lynne


I feel your pain.

Bill Clinton
(It's been me all along!)

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Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-03 Thread AGiles7207

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sure, as if

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Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-03 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Teo
FWIW, I am NOT June.  Only know her through this list.  Duh !!!  If you wish
to hallucinate that I am her, go for it but AND A BIG BUT at that, I AM NOT
JUNE AND WILL NEVER BE ANYONE BUT LYNNE so wake up and smell the roses Teo,
and g et your people straight.

Lynne M Giles  and no one else but Lynne

Don't remember seeing any posts suggesting anything else...

...but 'methinks she doth protest too much' ...

If the shoe fits, and all that


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Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-03 Thread AGiles7207

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June
I made a harmless comment wondering if it was Teo on the Art Bell show and I
get a batch of hooey , comments about using multiple ISPs, wondering if I w as
you and all that garbage.  To me, it was an insult, There may be some people
who pull that stuff but I am not one of them. So put it in your pipe and smoke
it.  I won't. So back off.  MY HUMBLE APOLOGIES for EVEN daring to p ost to
this list.  I suggest you read Animal Farm, if you haven't already.  I guess I
am not equal, huh (for lack of a better word).
At this point in time, I am seriously thinking of unseeing from this list.  I
WAS interested in learning something from this list.  But guess I am not
allowed to comment or anything like that.  Guess I have "learned" my lesson-I
am not allowed to add levity or any other sort of comment to this list.

Lynne who is very disillusioned with this list today

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Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-03 Thread AGiles7207

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June
FWIW
, t he shoe is way to big.  I am a female with small feet and the shoe is
quite a bit larger, in fact, big enough so both of my fee fit into it.  So,
wrong shoe.

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Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-03 Thread E Mael

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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
June
I made a harmless comment wondering if it was Teo on the Art Bell show
and I
get a batch of hooey , comments about using multiple ISPs, wondering if I
w as
you and all that garbage.  To me, it was an insult, There may be some
people
who pull that stuff but I am not one of them. So put it in your pipe and
smoke
it.  I won't. So back off.  MY HUMBLE APOLOGIES for EVEN daring to p ost
to
this list.  I suggest you read Animal Farm, if you haven't already.  I
guess I
am not equal, huh (for lack of a better word).
At this point in time, I am seriously thinking of unseeing from this
list.  I
WAS interested in learning something from this list.  But guess I am not
allowed to comment or anything like that.  Guess I have "learned" my
lesson-I
am not allowed to add levity or any other sort of comment to this list.

Lynne who is very disillusioned with this list today


not to worry lynne, june illicits the same response from everyone. it is
not her but everyone else that has the problem. not to worry though, you
are in plenty of good company.

best

chris

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Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-03 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I made a harmless comment wondering if it was Teo on the Art Bell show
and I get a batch of hooey , comments about using multiple ISPs,
wondering if I w as you and all that garbage.

Teo posts asking if I was June was to ME, not to you...


To me, it was an insult, There may be some people
who pull that stuff but I am not one of them. So put it in your pipe and smoke
it.  I won't. So back off.  MY HUMBLE APOLOGIES for EVEN daring to p ost to
this list.

You went off the deep end when I posted a simple teasing reply to your
'New England' thingy...I suggest you chill out and learn a little
tolerance for teasing, get a thicker skin if you plan to spend any amount
of time on the internet...


I suggest you read Animal Farm,

I suggest you get a life...you might find a sense of humor at the same
time...


At this point in time, I am seriously thinking of unseeing from this list.

You can 'unsee' all you want...no one's going to stop you, nor is anyone
going to beg you to 'see'...

Just don't let the door slam on your way out...since you can't 'see', it
might slam you on your ass...


I am not allowed to add levity or any other sort of comment to this
list.

You wouldn't know levity if it slammed you on the ass when you 'unsee'...

You seem to be someone who wishes out your own brand of 'levity', but
can't take any in return...


Lynne who is very disillusioned with this list today

Well, don't lose sleep over it, dearie...


June

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Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-03 Thread JYester

Teo,

I hope you're happy!  If you hadn't called in to Art Bell this catfight would
never have happened!

Jim

In a message dated 1/3/99 6:17:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:


  On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I made a harmless comment wondering if it was Teo on the Art Bell show
  and I get a batch of hooey , comments about using multiple ISPs,
  wondering if I w as you and all that garbage.

  Teo posts asking if I was June was to ME, not to you...


  To me, it was an insult, There may be some people
  who pull that stuff but I am not one of them. So put it in your pipe and
 smoke
  it.  I won't. So back off.  MY HUMBLE APOLOGIES for EVEN daring to p ost
to
  this list.

  You went off the deep end when I posted a simple teasing reply to your
  'New England' thingy...I suggest you chill out and learn a little
  tolerance for teasing, get a thicker skin if you plan to spend any amount
  of time on the internet...


  I suggest you read Animal Farm,

  I suggest you get a life...you might find a sense of humor at the same
  time...


  At this point in time, I am seriously thinking of unseeing from this list.

  You can 'unsee' all you want...no one's going to stop you, nor is anyone
  going to beg you to 'see'...

  Just don't let the door slam on your way out...since you can't 'see', it
  might slam you on your ass...


  I am not allowed to add levity or any other sort of comment to this
  list.

  You wouldn't know levity if it slammed you on the ass when you 'unsee'...

  You seem to be someone who wishes out your own brand of 'levity', but
  can't take any in return...


  Lynne who is very disillusioned with this list today

  Well, don't lose sleep over it, dearie...


  June

   



Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-03 Thread Daniel Holly

Was he the one with the Chupacabra in his prediction?



D




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] hello


Teo,

I hope you're happy!  If you hadn't called in to Art Bell this catfight
would
never have happened!

Jim

In a message dated 1/3/99 6:17:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:


  On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I made a harmless comment wondering if it was Teo on the Art Bell show
  and I get a batch of hooey , comments about using multiple ISPs,
  wondering if I w as you and all that garbage.

  Teo posts asking if I was June was to ME, not to you...


  To me, it was an insult, There may be some people
  who pull that stuff but I am not one of them. So put it in your pipe
and
 smoke
  it.  I won't. So back off.  MY HUMBLE APOLOGIES for EVEN daring to p
ost
to
  this list.

  You went off the deep end when I posted a simple teasing reply to your
  'New England' thingy...I suggest you chill out and learn a little
  tolerance for teasing, get a thicker skin if you plan to spend any
amount
  of time on the internet...


  I suggest you read Animal Farm,

  I suggest you get a life...you might find a sense of humor at the same
  time...


  At this point in time, I am seriously thinking of unseeing from this
list.

  You can 'unsee' all you want...no one's going to stop you, nor is anyone
  going to beg you to 'see'...

  Just don't let the door slam on your way out...since you can't 'see', it
  might slam you on your ass...


  I am not allowed to add levity or any other sort of comment to this
  list.

  You wouldn't know levity if it slammed you on the ass when you
'unsee'...

  You seem to be someone who wishes out your own brand of 'levity', but
  can't take any in return...


  Lynne who is very disillusioned with this list today

  Well, don't lose sleep over it, dearie...


  June

   



Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-03 Thread AGiles7207

Jim
But remember it was Jane who decided to do her usual "teasing"
and really got the ball rolling.  But then from what I gather, she's the one
who thinks and feels that she is always right
Lynne
PS can anyone tell me which chat rooms on AOL I supposedly (according to the
gospel of Jane) that I go to???  Inquiring minds (lilke mine) would like to
know.vbg



Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-02 Thread AGiles7207

 -Caveat Lector-

Hey, I was wondering the same thing.  Guess great minds think alike.
And, p lease answer the question Teo,   inquiring minds want to knowvbg

Lynne

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Re: [CTRL] hello

1999-01-02 Thread Teo1000

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In a message dated 1/2/99 5:09:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Teo, Hey did I hear you on Art Bell during the 1999 Predictions? 

Not me, but do tell, did you here someone espousing theories or concerns that
mirror some of what I post here on CTRL?
Teo1000

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