Re: [cvs.lp.se #14] [PATCH] Multi-entry lists, configuration check mode
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 09:00:13AM +0100, Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 21 Feb 2003
08:46:31 +0100, Claude Lecommandeur [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
claude.lecommandeurWouldn't the best solution to have support for
claude.lecommandeur decent (perlish) regular expressions :
claude.lecommandeur
claude.lecommandeur ^(foo|bar)$ value
claude.lecommandeur
claude.lecommandeurregex can do this.
Hmm, in certain cases, that would mean using part of the GNU C
Library, which is licensed under the LGPL. What would that mean for
me, distribution-wise?
if ctwm is compiled on linux, the GNU Clibrary is used anyway, so this
shouldn't hurt you.
You could also use the PCRE library, which is compatible to perl
regular expressions...
Tom
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Re: [cvs.lp.se #14] [PATCH] Multi-entry lists, configuration check mode
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 09:00:13AM +0100 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker, and lo! it spake thus:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 21 Feb 2003
08:46:31 +0100, Claude Lecommandeur [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
claude.lecommandeurWouldn't the best solution to have support for
claude.lecommandeur decent (perlish) regular expressions :
claude.lecommandeur
claude.lecommandeur ^(foo|bar)$ value
claude.lecommandeur
claude.lecommandeurregex can do this.
Hmm, in certain cases, that would mean using part of the GNU C
Library, which is licensed under the LGPL. What would that mean for
me, distribution-wise?
I don't think it matters; you're _already_ using part of the GNU C
Library in certain cases (i.e., on any system with glibc :). The
regex(3) functions from Henry Spencer aren't [L]GPL'd, and there's also
the choice of PCRE; either, as far as I can tell, are mostly BSD-style
licensed.
I actually did momentarily consider using regular expressions when I
wrote the original patch, but I dismissed it as absurd overkill (and for
_ME_ to pass up on overkill is unusual ;) and just went for
comma-seperated.
Now, one idea is to go to |-seperated lists inside ()'s; sort of
hand-implementing just the (a|b|c) part of regular expressions. Thus,
the code would treat foo as it does now, but special-case if the entry
started with a '(' as a |-seperated list. That would work; would take
about 5 minutes to update the code for, would make it perhaps more
obvious what it's doing... And anybody who makes a window class whose
name starts with '(' deserves what they get ;-p
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Re: [cvs.lp.se #14] [PATCH] Multi-entry lists, configuration check mode
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:32:50
-0600, Matthew D. Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
fullermd On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 09:00:13AM +0100 I heard the voice of
fullermd Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker, and lo! it spake thus:
fullermd In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri,
21 Feb 2003 08:46:31 +0100, Claude Lecommandeur [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
fullermd
fullermd claude.lecommandeurWouldn't the best solution to have support for
fullermd claude.lecommandeur decent (perlish) regular expressions :
fullermd claude.lecommandeur
fullermd claude.lecommandeur ^(foo|bar)$ value
fullermd claude.lecommandeur
fullermd claude.lecommandeurregex can do this.
[...]
fullermd Now, one idea is to go to |-seperated lists inside ()'s;
fullermd sort of hand-implementing just the (a|b|c) part of regular
fullermd expressions. Thus, the code would treat foo as it does
fullermd now, but special-case if the entry started with a '(' as a
fullermd |-seperated list. That would work; would take about 5
fullermd minutes to update the code for, would make it perhaps more
fullermd obvious what it's doing... And anybody who makes a window
fullermd class whose name starts with '(' deserves what they get
fullermd ;-p
I'm still dubious about this. The reason is that I see it like a
string is a string is a string and nothing but a string. From a
user's point of view, I'd find it rather confusing if some strings
didn't behave like strings do elsewhere. Or to follow up on the
regexp idea, what about this?
^(foo|bar)$ \1value
But really, if we're to introduce regexps, they should come with a
different syntax, for example with / as delimiter instead of (now
we're etting Perly!):
/^(foo|bar)$/ \1value
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Re: [cvs.lp.se #14] [PATCH] Multi-entry lists, configuration check mode
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 21 Feb 2003 18:38:10 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johan Vromans) said: jvromans Well, in this case it doesn't matter much, since it's not Perl but jvromans PCRE we're dealing with... OTOH, why not embed Perl in ctwm and use jvromans real Perl to drive the configuration[1]. *cough* and when do you expect CTWM to read your mail? :-) Seriously, I haven't done any embedded Perl stuff, so I'm out on a very thin limb here, but I get the impression that we risk a bit of bloat with it. If I'm wrong, please enlighten me. -- Richard Levitte | http://richard.levitte.org/ | Spannv. 38, I Levitte Programming | http://www.lp.se/ | S-168 35 Bromma T: +46-708-26 53 44 | | SWEDEN Price, performance, quality... choose the two you like
Re: Preview: 3.7 alpha1
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:28:02 +0100, Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: jvromans Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jvromans jvromans 9 - Changed Imakefile to support a distribution target. jvromans jvromans This target seems to require a 'tardy' tool. This is not on any of my jvromans systems. What is it supposed to do? It's a tar archive editor, where the metadata, including aspects of the file path, can be changed. I'm quite fond of it. You can find it as part of most *BSD and Linux distributions, as well as in source at http://www.canb.auug.org.au/~millerp/tardy.html . -- Richard Levitte | http://richard.levitte.org/ | Spannv. 38, I Levitte Programming | http://www.lp.se/ | S-168 35 Bromma T: +46-708-26 53 44 | | SWEDEN Price, performance, quality... choose the two you like
Re: placement in other workspaces?
On 21 Feb 2003 09:46, James Pace wrote:
I've got 9 workspaces, and at startup I want to put some windows
in WS 1, and mozilla in workspace 2 and other stuff in other
workspaces.
Can I do that?
Sure, lets say you have the following defined:
WorkSpaces {# Define these workspaces
first {goldenrod black goldenrod black }
mozilla {light sea green black light sea green black }
other {magenta3 black magenta3 black }
}
Occupy {# Default occupy
Workspace mozilla {
mozilla-bin Mozilla-bin mozilla Mozilla
}
Workspace other {
xmms
}
}
Now, all your Mozillas will always come up in the mozilla workspace,
and xmms will always open in the other workspace.
You can do the same trick with any other application, just associate
its (X) name with a workspace.
If your application allows you to use -xrm (xterm would be one such
example), you could start them from a shell in the first workspace
with:
# xterm -xrm ctwm.workspace:other
to have them actually show up in the other workspace.
/Björn
Re: [cvs.lp.se #14] [PATCH] Multi-entry lists, configuration check mode
Matthew D. Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OTOH, comma-seperated lists are a common paradigm (I hate that word, sometimes) even in such illogical languages as English. How about using curly braces for lists? That's used elsewhere in .ctwmrc, so it would be easy to understand for the user. -- A preposition is not a good thing to end a sentence with.
