Re: [ANNOUNCE] Releasing ctwm 3.7 beta1. This starts a two-week beta period
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 3 May 2005 01:03:42 +0200 (CEST), Peter Berg Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: pebl pebl On Tue, 3 May 2005, Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote: pebl pebl pebl I still think the prototypes should be corrected, patch 4. pebl pebl Uhmm, have you looked at what I've done? I've prototyped all pebl functions I could find, arguments included. Did I miss something? pebl pebl hmm, I missed something. I diffed with a wrong path a got a lot pebl of missing prototypes; concluded the patch is wasnt aplied yet. pebl Sorry. Actually, you seem to have missed more than that. I had a look, and all the changes you wanted are already there. IgnoreTransient is even documented :-). This is the entry in CHANGES describing it: 21 - IgnoreTransient patch (by Peter Berg Larsen) New keyword with list of windows for which to ignore transients. Cheers, Richard - Please consider sponsoring my work on free software. See http://www.free.lp.se/sponsoring.html for details. -- Richard Levitte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://richard.levitte.org/ When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up. -- C.S. Lewis
Re: Releasing ctwm 3.7 beta1. This starts a two-week beta period
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I [...] decided it's time to take ctwm 3.7 into beta. Great! Up and running right now! ctwm 3.7 is hereby in feature freeze. All that's needed is to find and correct as many bugs as possible. Well, there's one bug that is still there: sending the HUP signal to ctwm to restart it still only works once. http://ctwm.free.lp.se/. The web site reads Messages sent in here are forwarded to the request tracker (more on the below), but there's no more... Clicked on Check it again, I dare you :-) lately? -- Johan
Re: Releasing ctwm 3.7 beta1. This starts a two-week beta period
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: #define newhandler(sig, action) \ if (signal (sig, SIG_IGN) != SIG_IGN) (void) signal (sig, action) Now, if someone could explain to me why that macro is used at all, I'd be quite grateful. Is there any reason at all not to set up a new handler if the previous handler is SIG_IGN? That looks very error prone to me... One thing that springs to mind (but I might be wrong) is that sometimes? ctwm is started with certain signals disabled (nohup?) and this macro prevents these disabled signals from being reenabled? -- Johan
Re: Releasing ctwm 3.7 beta1. This starts a two-week beta period
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ctwm 3.7 beta1 is also distributed as a preview, linked to from http://ctwm.free.lp.se/. For RPM freaks, I've attached a fairly good working .spec file. -- Johan ctwm-3.7beta1.spec Description: Binary data
Re: Releasing ctwm 3.7 beta1. This starts a two-week beta period
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 03 May 2005 13:37:33 +0200, Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: jvromans Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jvromans jvromans #define newhandler(sig, action) \ jvromans if (signal (sig, SIG_IGN) != SIG_IGN) (void) signal (sig, action) jvromans jvromans Now, if someone could explain to me why that macro is used at all, I'd jvromans be quite grateful. Is there any reason at all not to set up a new jvromans handler if the previous handler is SIG_IGN? That looks very error jvromans prone to me... jvromans jvromans One thing that springs to mind (but I might be wrong) is jvromans that sometimes? ctwm is started with certain signals jvromans disabled (nohup?) and this macro prevents these disabled jvromans signals from being reenabled? Actually, considering we're doing execvp from inside a signal handler, we're on undefined territory. Changing newhandler(SIGHUP, Restart) to signal(SIGHUP, Restart) didn't change anything, so I'm guessing the signal is permanently blocked until ctwm gets out of the first signal handler... eh... or something like that. There are several possibilities available: - use sigaction() instead of signal(). It's quite a bit more robust, and it's possible to say how a handler should be treated. This needs quite a lot of care. - have Restart() set a flag. This requires a wrapper around XNextEvent(), probably using select(). - something different that I haven't come up with yet. Cheers, Richard - Please consider sponsoring my work on free software. See http://www.free.lp.se/sponsoring.html for details. -- Richard Levitte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://richard.levitte.org/ When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up. -- C.S. Lewis
[ANNOUNCE] Releasing ctwm 3.7 beta2.
Hi, Release of ctwm 3.7 beta 2. Two major changes since beta 1: - The information window now displays both the inner and outer geometry, and also displays the 3D border width. - SIGHUP can now be signaled several times, and ctwm should restart each time, not just the first. The restart code has been cleaned up as a result. Johan Vromans should be happy with this, I hope :-) This release is tagged ctwm-3_7-beta2, and is distributed as a preview, linked from http://ctwm.free.lp.se/. It should be visible as soon as deployed, which should be at around 15:10 UTC. Please try this beta, and pay extra attention to stuff that happens around restarts. I've experienced a frozen ctwm in an early incarnation of this rework, and am not 100% I got all the corner cases. Patches will be joyfully accepted. Cheers, Richard - Please consider sponsoring my work on free software. See http://www.free.lp.se/sponsoring.html for details. -- Richard Levitte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://richard.levitte.org/ When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up. -- C.S. Lewis
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Releasing ctwm 3.7 beta2.
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:02:49PM +0200 I heard the voice of Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker, and lo! it spake thus: Release of ctwm 3.7 beta 2. FreeBSD port updated (heck with the patches, they're 3/4 of the size of the whole port anyway). http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/dl/ctwm-b2-port.tar.gz -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream.
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Releasing ctwm 3.7 beta2.
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:02:49PM +0200, Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote: Hi, Release of ctwm 3.7 beta 2. Two major changes since beta 1: - The information window now displays both the inner and outer geometry, and also displays the 3D border width. - SIGHUP can now be signaled several times, and ctwm should restart each time, not just the first. The restart code has been cleaned up as a result. Johan Vromans should be happy with this, I hope :-) This release is tagged ctwm-3_7-beta2, and is distributed as a preview, linked from http://ctwm.free.lp.se/. It should be visible as soon as deployed, which should be at around 15:10 UTC. Please try this beta, and pay extra attention to stuff that happens around restarts. I've experienced a frozen ctwm in an early incarnation of this rework, and am not 100% I got all the corner cases. Patches will be joyfully accepted. *Finally* my favorite WM is on the move; I'm smiling. When the port-maintainer has created a FreeBSD port, of 3.7, I'll hammer on it. One question: does 3.7 have thw gnome hooks added in? There are several gnome and kde apps I would like to use, but without the sludge of either gnome or kde. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Releasing ctwm 3.7 beta2.
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 3 May 2005 10:11:36 -0700, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: kline *Finally* my favorite WM is on the move; I'm smiling. Heh, yeah, it's taken me some time to get up to speed. kline When the port-maintainer has created a FreeBSD port, kline of 3.7, I'll hammer on it. Someone posted a link to the necessary stuff to have beta2 as a port. You've probably seen it by now. kline One question: does 3.7 have thw gnome hooks added in? There kline are several gnome and kde apps I would like to use, but kline without the sludge of either gnome or kde. The Gnome stuff I know of that's in 3.7 is described by this entry in CHANGES: 4 - Preliminary GNOME compliance (see README.gnome and TODO.gnome) (by Nathan Dushman). I came in as maintainer after most of the Gnome stuff was worked on, so I can't really say for sure if the thw hooks are in or not. Can you point at something that helps me figure it out? It's quite possible this is something that slipped my mind... Cheers, Richard - Please consider sponsoring my work on free software. See http://www.free.lp.se/sponsoring.html for details. -- Richard Levitte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://richard.levitte.org/ When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up. -- C.S. Lewis
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Releasing ctwm 3.7 beta2.
On Tue 03 May 2005 at 10:11:36 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: One question: does 3.7 have thw gnome hooks added in? There are several gnome and kde apps I would like to use, but without the sludge of either gnome or kde. You can use the apps just fine, that's not a problem. Most of them don't use any specific Gnome capabilities anyway - that is more the domain of the desktop application. Which, from your remark, you don't want to use anyway. I use ctwm and the occasional gnome/gtk program and see hardly any difficulties. Maybe the only thing is that ctwm does not know about something called layers, which is probably what keeps Nautilus windows in the background. When I still used a gnome-1 desktop, the workspace manager wasn't completely integrated in the gnome workspace manager. But since ctwm's idea of that is more advanced anyway (gnome only allows a window to exist in either one or all workspaces, not in some other subset), it is questionable if it could be properly integrated anyway. gary -Olaf. -- ___ Olaf 'Rhialto' Seibert-- rhialto/at/falu.nl \X/ Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me to your .signature to help me spread!
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Releasing ctwm 3.7 beta2.
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 3 May 2005 13:32:50 -0700, Gary Kline
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
kline PS: Is there a way of closing/exiting a window/xterm/app
kline in 3.7? I've got a Delete Window entry in my CTWM
kline left mouse-button popup, but an [X] in the upper right
kline corner of the app would be a major win. -g
I've got this in my .ctwmrc:
RightTitleButton :xpm:cross {
Button1 : f.delete
}
Cheers,
Richard
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