Pending packages status
1. doxygen version: 1.2.18-1 status : reviewed, fixed package is available for review reviews: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2002-09/msg00107.html votes : 4 (Joshua, Lapo, Nicholas and Robert) url: http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-SanJose/5153/cygwin-package/doxygen-1.2.18-1-package.tgz 2. CMake version: 1.4.5-1 status : reviewed reviews: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2002-08/msg00125.html notes : setup file correction needed; does anyone know what kind of correction is needed ?! votes : 2 (Gerrit and Nicholas) url: ftp://www.cmake.org/pub/cmake/cygwin/setup.hint ftp://www.cmake.org/pub/cmake/cygwin/cmake-1.4.5-1.tar.bz2 ftp://www.cmake.org/pub/cmake/cygwin/cmake-1.4.5-1-src.tar.bz2 3. tmake version: 1.8-1 status : reviewd, fixed package is available for review reviews: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2002-09/msg00222.html votes : Joshua (?!) url: http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-SanJose/5153/cygwin-package/tmake-1.8-1-package.tgz
RE: Pending packages status
(sorry Pavel, ment to sent to list!) From: Pavel Tsekov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 1. doxygen version: 1.2.18-1 status : reviewed, fixed package is available for review reviews: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2002-09/msg00107.html votes : 4 (Joshua, Lapo, Nicholas and Robert) You can add me to this :) J. url: http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-SanJose/5153/cygwin-p ackage/doxygen-1.2.18-1-package.tgz === Information in this email and any attachments are confidential, and may not be copied or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor disclosed to any third party without our permission. There is no intention to create any legally binding contract or other commitment through the use of this email. Experian Limited (registration number 653331). Registered office: Talbot House, Talbot Street, Nottingham NG1 5HF
RE: Pending packages status
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Morrison, John wrote: 1. doxygen version: 1.2.18-1 votes : 4 (Joshua, Lapo, Nicholas and Robert) You can add me to this :) I think it doesn't need more PRO votes, but I'll add you anyway :)
Can't export etext
Hello, When porting a compiler which is ported from Pro64 from linux to cygwin, I encountered some problem. Could you please help me? Thanks! Now, I have past the compiling part and got all *.o files, but an error occured in the linking part when I tried to make a be.so. The error message is: Cannot export etext: symbol not found Info: resolving _sys_nerr by linking to __imp__sys_nerr (auto-import) collect2: ld returned 1 exit status gmake[1]: *** [be.so] Error 1 kelly _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Shared memory?
Jean-Claude, Yes, but you have to run some service that supports the SHM model (I forget the package name or whether it was ever rolled into a Cygwin setup package that is in the primary distribution, and for anyone about to jog my memory: I don't care either). Go look at the KDE on Cygwin pages if you want more information. They have to build Cygwin/XFree86 with the MITSHM extension in order to support KDE. The ``cygipc'' library or package comes to mind, as we have some #ifdef test in xc/config/cf/cygwin.* that check CygIPC. In case you were wondering, MITSHM is not enabled in the default build, nor in the default Cygwin/XFree86 distribution, because the cygipc library/package/whatever is either 1) not included in the default distribution, 2) not stable enough, 3) not automatically installed with absolutely no user intervention, or 4) because no one poked me to let me know that the previous 3 possibilities have all been taken care of. There, that should give you enough to Google on. Harold Jean-Claude Gervais wrote: Does Cygwin support any equivalent to the *nux shared memory APIs? The shm* functions. Thanks.
new subscriber
Hi List, My first post. I tried to get the faq and list info and the listbot told me they weren't available. I have a couple of questions, hopefully they aren't asked to much. One: On my installation I didn't get vim. And I'm not finding it out on the net anywhere. What can I do about this? I found a downloadable binary of gvim but when I try to run it it complains about the file libICE.dll not being in the path. Two: How is the xfree project different from mainstream cygwin? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Frank
Re: new subscriber
Frank, Cygwin/XFree86 is a subproject of the Cygwin project that is focused on the XFree86 (a free X Window System implementation) port to Cygwin. If you install Cygwin/XFree86, then you have by definition installed Cygwin. You can select the Cygwin/XFree86 packages under the XFree86 category in Cygwin's setup.exe. Select only the XFree86-base package (in addition to the other default packages) if you are unsure of which XFree86 packages you need. Harold Lane, Frank L wrote: Hi List, My first post. I tried to get the faq and list info and the listbot told me they weren't available. I have a couple of questions, hopefully they aren't asked to much. One: On my installation I didn't get vim. And I'm not finding it out on the net anywhere. What can I do about this? I found a downloadable binary of gvim but when I try to run it it complains about the file libICE.dll not being in the path. Two: How is the xfree project different from mainstream cygwin? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Frank
Re: new subscriber
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 03:36:47PM -0500, Lane, Frank L wrote: My first post. I tried to get the faq and list info and the listbot told me they weren't available. I'm sorry but I don't know what this means. What told you that the FAQ was unavailable? Links for the FAQ and list information for cygwin are visible at http://cygwin.com/ . The FAQ for cygwin-xfree is at http://xfree.cygwin.com/ . In general if you are looking for information like this, the project web page is the place to find it. cgf
RE: new subscriber
Christopher, I think because the mailbot gives this bit of information when you sign up: Send mail to the following for info and FAQ for this list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you try it you get: Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. No information has been provided for this list. The second address does a bit better: Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Please check out the Cygwin XFree86 FAQ at the following location: http://cygwin.com/cygwin/xfree/faq.html Wes Szumera -Original Message- From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: new subscriber On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 03:36:47PM -0500, Lane, Frank L wrote: My first post. I tried to get the faq and list info and the listbot told me they weren't available. I'm sorry but I don't know what this means. What told you that the FAQ was unavailable? Links for the FAQ and list information for cygwin are visible at http://cygwin.com/ . The FAQ for cygwin-xfree is at http://xfree.cygwin.com/ . In general if you are looking for information like this, the project web page is the place to find it. cgf
Re: new subscriber
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 11:29:22PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher, I think because the mailbot gives this bit of information when you sign up: Send mail to the following for info and FAQ for this list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you try it you get: Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. No information has been provided for this list. The second address does a bit better: Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Please check out the Cygwin XFree86 FAQ at the following location: http://cygwin.com/cygwin/xfree/faq.html Thanks. I've updated this to something slightly more informative. cgf
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src/winsup/cygwin ChangeLog thread.cc thread.h
CVSROOT:/cvs/src Module name:src Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]2002-09-30 04:43:44 Modified files: winsup/cygwin : ChangeLog thread.cc thread.h Log message: 2002-09-30 Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] * thread.cc (pthread_mutex::initMutex): Use the wrapper init call. (pthread_mutex::nativeMutex::init): Implement. (pthread_mutex::nativeMutex::lock): Ditto. (pthread_mutex::nativeMutex::unlock): Ditto. (pthread_mutex::init): Use the wrapper lock and unlockcalls. * thread.h (pthread_mutex): Move mutexInitializationLock into a nativeMutex wrapper class. Patches: http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.1510r2=1.1511 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/thread.cc.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.94r2=1.95 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/thread.h.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.52r2=1.53
winsup/cygwin ChangeLog exceptions.cc
CVSROOT:/cvs/uberbaum Module name:winsup Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-09-30 07:18:43 Modified files: cygwin : ChangeLog exceptions.cc Log message: * exceptions.cc (unused_sig_wrapper): Still need additional level of indirection when setting errno. Patches: http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/winsup/cygwin/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=uberbaumr1=1.1511r2=1.1512 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/winsup/cygwin/exceptions.cc.diff?cvsroot=uberbaumr1=1.125r2=1.126
winsup/cygwin ChangeLog thread.cc
CVSROOT:/cvs/uberbaum Module name:winsup Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-09-30 08:00:53 Modified files: cygwin : ChangeLog thread.cc Log message: * thread.cc (pthread_key::keys): Do not copy on fork. (pthread_mutex::mutexInitializationLock): Ditto. (pthreadNull::_instance): Ditto. Patches: http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/winsup/cygwin/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=uberbaumr1=1.1512r2=1.1513 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/winsup/cygwin/thread.cc.diff?cvsroot=uberbaumr1=1.95r2=1.96
winsup/cygwin ChangeLog thread.cc
CVSROOT:/cvs/uberbaum Module name:winsup Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-09-30 08:05:00 Modified files: cygwin : ChangeLog thread.cc Log message: * thread.cc (pthread::precreate): Use explicit no inherit option when creating mutex. (pthread_mutex::nativeMutex::init): Ditto. (semaphore::semaphore): Ditto. Patches: http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/winsup/cygwin/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=uberbaumr1=1.1513r2=1.1514 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/winsup/cygwin/thread.cc.diff?cvsroot=uberbaumr1=1.96r2=1.97
winsup/cygwin ChangeLog thread.cc
CVSROOT:/cvs/uberbaum Module name:winsup Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-09-30 08:11:55 Modified files: cygwin : ChangeLog thread.cc Log message: * thread.cc (pthread_mutex::initMutex): Remove \n from api_fatal. Patches: http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/winsup/cygwin/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=uberbaumr1=1.1514r2=1.1515 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/winsup/cygwin/thread.cc.diff?cvsroot=uberbaumr1=1.97r2=1.98
winsup/cygwin cygserver_shm.cc dcrt0.cc fhandl ...
CVSROOT:/cvs/uberbaum Module name:winsup Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-09-30 08:17:45 Modified files: cygwin : cygserver_shm.cc dcrt0.cc fhandler_proc.cc fhandler_socket.cc grp.cc passwd.cc select.cc tty.cc Log message: whitespace Patches: http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/winsup/cygwin/cygserver_shm.cc.diff?cvsroot=uberbaumr1=1.10r2=1.11 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/winsup/cygwin/dcrt0.cc.diff?cvsroot=uberbaumr1=1.152r2=1.153 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/winsup/cygwin/fhandler_proc.cc.diff?cvsroot=uberbaumr1=1.16r2=1.17 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/winsup/cygwin/fhandler_socket.cc.diff?cvsroot=uberbaumr1=1.66r2=1.67 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/winsup/cygwin/grp.cc.diff?cvsroot=uberbaumr1=1.55r2=1.56 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/winsup/cygwin/passwd.cc.diff?cvsroot=uberbaumr1=1.50r2=1.51 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/winsup/cygwin/select.cc.diff?cvsroot=uberbaumr1=1.80r2=1.81 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/winsup/cygwin/tty.cc.diff?cvsroot=uberbaumr1=1.43r2=1.44
src/winsup/cygwin ChangeLog cygserver_transpor ...
CVSROOT:/cvs/src Module name:src Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-09-30 11:31:56 Modified files: winsup/cygwin : ChangeLog cygserver_transport_pipes.cc Log message: * cygserver_transport_pipes.cc (transport_layer_pipes::accept): Remove trailing \n from debug_printf. Patches: http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.1515r2=1.1516 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/cygserver_transport_pipes.cc.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.5r2=1.6
src/winsup/cygwin ChangeLog thread.cc
CVSROOT:/cvs/src Module name:src Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]2002-09-30 14:06:06 Modified files: winsup/cygwin : ChangeLog thread.cc Log message: 2002-10-01 Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] * thread.cc (pthread_key::keys): Copy on fork. Add a comment explaining why. (pthreadNull::_instance): Copy on fork. Absolutely no state exists in pthreadNull. Patches: http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.1516r2=1.1517 http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/thread.cc.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.98r2=1.99
Re: ncftp's lls requiring /bin/more
On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Michael A Chase wrote: Perhaps the pager variable in ncftp is overriding $PAGER and it is set to '/bin/more' in your system. Use the ncftp 'set' command to change it: set pager less That did the trick. Actually I see there is some value in more being less because I don't have to change pagers for other programs, eg my -- Greg Matheson It was said a million monkeys on a million typewriters Chinmin College would eventually write the works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not so. http://www.research.att.com/~reeds/monkeys.html Taiwan Penpals Archive URL: http://penpals.chinmin.edu.tw/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
telnetd doesn't give login: prompt
I (still) can't use telnet for my NT box. The test I'm stuck on is when I try to run telnetd (i.e. without using inetd). In one window I run: $ /usr/sbin/in.telnetd -debug and in another I run: $ telnet $(uname -n) I get the following: Trying 139.21.89.82... Connected to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Escape character is '^]'. Password: that is, I'm prompted for a password without first having entered my login-id. Naturally, no password works. Once I try something, I do indeed get a prompt for a login-id: Login incorrect login: Now, I'm trying to remember how it works on unix: init starts getty which, if I remember correctly, paints the first login prompt and gets the login-id. At that point, login(1) is called. Right? What is the equivalent under Cygwin? BTW, I created /etc/passwd w/ mkpasswd -d $USERDOMAIN -u $USERNAME and: $ lf /bin/cygwin* /bin/cygwin1.dll* I used (a while ago) iu-config to create the files in /etc. and: $ whence login /cygdrive/d/cygwin/bin/login $ echo $CYGWIN ntsec Any help will be appreciated... -- Thomas Mellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ WEB.DE Club - jetzt testen fur 1 Euro! Nutzen Sie Ihre Chance unter https://digitaledienste.web.de/Club/?mc=021105 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: n00b to Unix
WRT [EMAIL PROTECTED], there is one, simple answer to this question that we should all have as a pavlovian reaction: O'Reilly http://www.oreilly.com/ If there's one commercial enterprise that the interests of the free software movement in its heart, it's O'Reilly. -- Thomas Mellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Wie ware das: mehrere E-Mail Adressen - aber nur ein Postfach ? Kein Problem mit WEB.DE FreeMail - http://freemail.web.de/?mc=021127 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
20020926063518 dot GA1292 at raphael dot oninet dot pt The Cygwin list seems to do fine, though a beginners list would be nice. I would definitely appreciate a beginner's list, one where we could ask questions like Hey, I'm not even sure if this is a Cygwin question or a specific application question but could anyone help... This *is* the beginners list. The experts list is cygwin-developers. I'm afraid that the call for a beginners-list springs from a desire to get rid of all the stupid questions, which is generally defined as everybody-else's question but mine. If we define a still-more-beginner's list, it will be a write-only list. The amount of traffic on this list is *very* (see? not shouting) overwhelming, and I for one am a complete Unix newbie trying to makes sense of a *lot* of new information. Try http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-09/ (or http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-10) It works great for me. -- Thomas Mellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Den Komfort von WEB.DE FreeMail nutzen, aber die alten E-Mail-Adressen nicht aufgeben? Kein Problem: http://freemail.web.de/?mc=021128 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: where is ipc.h and msg.?
Nick schrieb: Thanks for your help on my previous installation problem of cygwin. Now my problem is that /usr/include/sys does not contain ipc.h or msg.h. Need these to compile a concurrent message passing program. Any tips on this problem? There is an extern package available: cygipc, look at the 'Ported Software' website: http://cygwin.com/ported.html Gerrit -- =^..^= -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
OK, let me clarify - I guess what I would really like is a Cygwin-specific *Unix* beginner's list. My desire is not to get rid of stupid questions, since I think all my questions are probably stupid, but rather the questions that are just over my head and make me feel like I will never be at that level. What I want probably does not exist, since most people probably do not use Cygwin the way I do. I am using it as a way to learn Unix on my Windows machine without having to partition my hard drive and risk any of my Windows data. Maybe I should just join a Unix newbie list, any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks, -Lisi At 01:08 PM 9/30/02 +0200, Thomas Mellman wrote: 20020926063518 dot GA1292 at raphael dot oninet dot pt The Cygwin list seems to do fine, though a beginners list would be nice. I would definitely appreciate a beginner's list, one where we could ask questions like Hey, I'm not even sure if this is a Cygwin question or a specific application question but could anyone help... This *is* the beginners list. The experts list is cygwin-developers. I'm afraid that the call for a beginners-list springs from a desire to get rid of all the stupid questions, which is generally defined as everybody-else's question but mine. If we define a still-more-beginner's list, it will be a write-only list. The amount of traffic on this list is *very* (see? not shouting) overwhelming, and I for one am a complete Unix newbie trying to makes sense of a *lot* of new information. Try http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-09/ (or http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-10) It works great for me. -- Thomas Mellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Den Komfort von WEB.DE FreeMail nutzen, aber die alten E-Mail-Adressen nicht aufgeben? Kein Problem: http://freemail.web.de/?mc=021128 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Path to dynamic libraries
Hello, I installed the full Cygwin distribution but apparently it does not include the command 'ldd'. Is there another command which can be used to get the list of dynamic libraries (and their path) that a given executable depends on ? Does it make sense to use the environment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH with Cygwin ? Thanks for any help, Pierre -- Pierre HABRAKEN - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tél: 04 76 82 72 83 - Fax: 04 76 82 72 87 IMAG-LSR BP72 38402 SAINT MARTIN D'HERES Cedex -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Question for perl gurus: what creates /bin/{HEAD|GET|POST}?
Max schrieb:
Max Bowsher wrote:
I have found the problem! If an alternate perl library directory is passed
like
so:
$ perl Makefile.PL LIB=/opt/perl5lib
Then LWP's Makefile.PL fails to ask the questions.
So the answer is to fix Makefile.PL.
The following 1 line patch fixes the problem. Anyone familiar with LWP patch
procedures? Otherwise, I'll go and subscribe to YAML :-)
All the LWP developers are subscribed at least to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
I think you don't need to be a subscriber to post there, I get all
the postings twice or more times since it is usual there to hit
reply-all. So if smeone posts to perl5-porters and libwww the
makemaker list and CC's to me personally I get the message four times :-\
--- Makefile.PL.orig 2002-05-31 21:51:03.0 +0100
+++ Makefile.PL 2002-09-29 22:26:08.0 +0100
@@ -22,7 +22,7 @@
unless (getopts(n)) {
die Usage: $0 [-n]\n;
}
-@programs_to_install = () if $opt_n || grep /^LIB=/, @ARGV;
+@programs_to_install = @request_aliases = () if $opt_n || grep /^LIB=/, @ARGV;
# Check if we should try to run the live tests
open(CHANGES, Changes) || die Can't open Changes: $!;
--
=^..^=
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Fwd: Fw: [Mingw-users] Whats the latest on libtool and the stub dlllibraries?
Norman,
Please post instead of sending private email.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2002 at 10:53:26PM -0400, Norman Vine wrote:
Is it the -mdll flag that is causing our dll relocation problems
with the extension modules that are built with setup.py ???
No. IMO, the above is not relevant to the Cygwin fork()/rebase issue.
Note that the -mdll flag is used when building Win32 Python shared
extension modules with Cygwin gcc in -mno-cygwin mode -- not when
building Cygwin Python shared extensions.
BTW, Cygwin fork() has rebase issues with Apache, Perl, etc. too.
On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 12:14:49AM -0400, Norman Vine wrote:
and the following (3) modules had the remap error for cygssl.dll
when run from inside the test-suite
test_fork1.py
test_popen2.py
test_pty.py
but ran successfully when run directly
The above is the expected behavior. When the entire Python regression
test is run, the probability of a DLL base address conflict is much
higher than when individual regression tests are run separately.
Jason
---BeginMessage---
Hi Jason
I just did a quick test compilng a ~month old CVS version
of Python after making the following change in distutills.cygwincompiler
# Hard-code GCC because that's what this is all about.
# XXX optimization, warnings etc. should be customizable.
self.set_executables(compiler='gcc -mcygwin -O -Wall',
# compiler_so='gcc -mcygwin -mdll -O -Wall',
compiler_so='gcc -mcygwin -shared -O -Wall',
linker_exe='gcc -mcygwin',
# linker_so=('%s -mcygwin -mdll -static' %
linker_so=('%s -mcygwin -shared' %
self.linker_dll))
and the following (3) modules had the remap error for cygssl.dll
when run from inside the test-suite
test_fork1.py
test_popen2.py
test_pty.py
but ran successfully when run directly
HTH
Norman
I actually changed all occurences of gcc in cygwincompiler to gcc-2
in that I am using the 'beta' compiler
- Original Message -
From: Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jason Tishler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 10:53 PM
Subject: Fw: [Mingw-users] Whats the latest on libtool and the stub dll
libraries?
Jason
FYI
from distutils.cygwinccompiler ~line 100
self.set_executables(compiler='gcc -mcygwin -O -Wall',
compiler_so='gcc -mcygwin -mdll -O -Wall',
linker_exe='gcc -mcygwin',
linker_so=('%s -mcygwin -mdll -static' %
self.linker_dll))
Is it the -mdll flag that is causing our dll relocation problems
with the extension modules that are built with setup.py ???
Norman
- Original Message -
From: Danny Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Elizabeth Barham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Mingw-users] Whats the latest on libtool and the stub dll
libraries?
- Original Message -
From: Earnie Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Elizabeth Barham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 28 September 2002 01:31
Subject: Re: [Mingw-users] Whats the latest on libtool and the stub dll
libraries?
Elizabeth Barham wrote:
Earnie Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I found the reason, and I must say Elizabeth did a nice job.
Thanks, but it did not work on my copy of MSYS unfortunately.
When
building the dll, the -mdll was added onto the command line and gcc
errored out saying they were incompatible. Oh well.
Hmm... I didn't get that at all. Make sure you remove
/etc/config.site. As for -mdll, it may be useful on the object build.
Danny Smith, can you speak to the -mdll switch effect in cc1? The
--help gives, Generate code for a DLL.
-mdll doesn't set any internal flags for cc1.exe, nor does -shared.
-mdll tells driver to pass dllcrt2.o rather than crt2.o as startup
object to ld
and to use _DllMainCRTStartup@12 as entry point address. -shared does
this too.
-mdll passes --dll to ld. -shared passes -shared to ld. This is where
the difference is:
--dll only says: 'use default image base for dlls'. It doesn't do any
of the relocateability magic.
-shared says: build a relocateable dll (or more generally, a shareable
library) ie, do all the things that dllwrap/dlltool would do
HTH.
Danny
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Re: Open bash at the current explorer directory?
Gunnar schrieb: It still works if I choose a folder, byt not a drive! Wow, what a thread... I missed it. I have a package online to deal with this (drives folders, including a little setup script), this version is for 'bash only', but can be customized: http://koeln.convey.de/cywgin/CygwinPromptHere/ I gives an entry in the context-sensitive Explorer right click menu and a batch file in the Cygwin root directory, modify the batch file to start your favorite terminal (e.g. rxvt) in your favorite colors. HTH, Gerrit -- =^..^= -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Path to dynamic libraries
erk umm s/actual/actualy s/pasth od/path of -Original Message- From: Vince Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 September 2002 13:58 To: 'Pierre Habraken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Path to dynamic libraries I believe Matt Swift wrote a script to do this but his link isnt valid any more. hmm but acutal doesnt cygcheck programname do this ? (although for some reason not if i give the full pasth od the program) -Original Message- From: Pierre Habraken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 September 2002 13:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Path to dynamic libraries Hello, I installed the full Cygwin distribution but apparently it does not include the command 'ldd'. Is there another command which can be used to get the list of dynamic libraries (and their path) that a given executable depends on ? Does it make sense to use the environment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH with Cygwin ? Thanks for any help, Pierre -- Pierre HABRAKEN - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tél: 04 76 82 72 83 - Fax: 04 76 82 72 87 IMAG-LSR BP72 38402 SAINT MARTIN D'HERES Cedex -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Path to dynamic libraries
Pierre schrieb: I installed the full Cygwin distribution but apparently it does not include the command 'ldd'. Is there another command which can be used to get the list of dynamic libraries (and their path) that a given executable depends on ? cd bin cygcheck cygwin1.dll Does it make sense to use the environment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH with Cygwin ? No. All the DLL's need to be in a directory that is included in your PATH environment variable like e.g. /bin. PATH always needs to be existent. Gerrit -- =^..^= -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 02:31:35PM +0200, Lisi wrote: Maybe I should just join a Unix newbie list, any suggestions are appreciated. The standard suggestion, use google: http://www.google.com/search?q=unix+newbie cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 01:54:54PM +0200, Thomas Mellman wrote: The only thing I'm missing is a nice way to directly reference an entry that I read on the maillist server so that I get merged into the thread. As it is, I'm switching to raw-text, grabbing the Referenced-Mail (or whatever it's called) and referencing that in my contribution. Either actually read the mailing list via email as intended or read it via news. Discussions of the best way to reply to email from the *web* are both uninteresting and off-topic. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [Proposal] Moving user mount information to HKLM
This is in reply to Christopher Faylor's post http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-09/msg01430.html With this in mind I will like you to consider publishing in the Cygwin FAQ the guidlines one should use for distributing an (open source) application outside the official net release. I believe it is an important topic in the spirit of 'getting our minds set'. Personally I am thinking of using the setup tool to install the packages that creates the environment used to build the application and add the extra application package(s) to setup.ini. I have actually thought of getting something like this together. It would include step-by-step instructions for creating your own local custom-package repository. Unfortunately this also means it would have to include discussion of upset and all the problems associated with changes in setup.exe/upset/setup.ini. Any thoughts on whether this would be worth it? __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [Proposal] Moving user mount information to HKLM
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 06:50:28AM -0700, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: This is in reply to Christopher Faylor's post http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-09/msg01430.html With this in mind I will like you to consider publishing in the Cygwin FAQ the guidlines one should use for distributing an (open source) application outside the official net release. I believe it is an important topic in the spirit of 'getting our minds set'. Personally I am thinking of using the setup tool to install the packages that creates the environment used to build the application and add the extra application package(s) to setup.ini. I have actually thought of getting something like this together. It would include step-by-step instructions for creating your own local custom-package repository. Unfortunately this also means it would have to include discussion of upset and all the problems associated with changes in setup.exe/upset/setup.ini. Any thoughts on whether this would be worth it? The goal of this mailing list and of the cygwin distribution is not to support other people in their quest to bundle and massage the standard distribution. Maybe someone should set up another mailing list or another web site to discuss this. I don't think we want to open up this topic here. We get quite enough traffic here without adding another How do I setup.ini the upset? questions to the mix. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
OK, let me clarify - I guess what I would really like is a Cygwin-specific *Unix* beginner's list. My desire is not to get rid of stupid questions, since I think all my questions are probably stupid, but rather the questions that are just over my head and make me feel like I will never be at that level. I don't think anyone objects to newbie questions on this list. My suggestion is that people use the Subject: header appropriately to filter questions that do and don't interest them. If newbies include [Newbie], or something like it, in the subject, then people who like to help new users will probably respond. People with less time or interest in training a new generation will likewise be grateful for the hint and can skip the whole thread. In the same manner, new users should not feel compelled to read any thread titled Can't link xyz.dll from gcc3.2-dev, as they'd probably just be wasting their time. Come back to those later when (and if) you ever have a need for that level of detail. On the other hand, there's no reason to ever feel depressed by ignorance. There is so much knowledge in the world that everyone has huge gaps in their education (including the most technically literate contributors to this list). Ignorance != stupidity. It just means you have some more reading to do :-) For what it's worth, this is a decent Unix newbie site: http://www.ugu.com/sui/ugu/show?help.beginners. The best all-time value for buying Unix knowledge was the O'Reilly Unix Bookshelf (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/unixcd/) which they have foolishly allowed to go out of print (again). Happily, you can now get them used on the super-cheap: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/offering/list/-/059606 What I want probably does not exist, since most people probably do not use Cygwin the way I do. I am using it as a way to learn Unix on my Windows machine without having to partition my hard drive and risk any of my Windows data. That's an excellent and common use for Cygwin (and now, Mac OS X :-) -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Open bash at the current explorer directory?
Actually this was what I started with, but I had some trouble with the installation. Later on I found the idea to use an environment varable instead of writing to a temp-file. :-) -Original Message- From: Gerrit P. Haase [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: den 30 september 2002 14:50 To: Gunnar Boström Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Open bash at the current explorer directory? Gunnar schrieb: It still works if I choose a folder, byt not a drive! Wow, what a thread... I missed it. I have a package online to deal with this (drives folders, including a little setup script), this version is for 'bash only', but can be customized: http://koeln.convey.de/cywgin/CygwinPromptHere/ I gives an entry in the context-sensitive Explorer right click menu and a batch file in the Cygwin root directory, modify the batch file to start your favorite terminal (e.g. rxvt) in your favorite colors. HTH, Gerrit -- =^..^= -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Open bash at the current explorer directory?
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 04:27:48PM +0200, Gunnar Bostr?m wrote: Actually this was what I started with, but I had some trouble with the installation. Later on I found the idea to use an environment varable instead of writing to a temp-file. :-) Is there any way that we can STOP discussing this now? Surely this subject has been beaten into the ground so far by now that it must be nearly molten. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Cygwin: name of an lwp-request script (HEAD) clashes with /bin/head
Can you not use the lwp-request wrapper script? Pete -Original Message- From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 September 2002 23:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cygwin: name of an lwp-request script (HEAD) clashes with /bin/head Hi, When installing LWP through CPAN, the installation creates the GET, HEAD and POST scripts in /usr/bin. On Cygwin, the name HEAD clashes with an existing program, /bin/head.exe (Cygwin assumes a .exe extension if it cannot find a program, so /bin/head normally invokes /bin/head.exe). Windows mostly disallows files with the same name in different cases, unlike Unix, which has no trouble distinguishing between HEAD and head. So, to accommodate the users of Cygwin and others using case-insensitive filesystems, can the scripts GET, HEAD, and POST be renamed to GET.pl, HEAD.pl, and POST.pl? Would this break a lot of existing functionality? Thank you. Igor Pechtchanski P.S. I've cc'd the cygwin mailing list, as this is relevant to Cygwin. -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Water molecules expand as they grow warmer (C) Popular Science, Oct'02, p.51 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
wordexp function
Hi alls, Is the unix wordexp function included in a cygwin package ? Thanks. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: How does cygwin map / to c:/cygwin?
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 September 2002 23:44
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How does cygwin map / to c:/cygwin?
When I type gvim /etc/passwd from bash, gvim comes up with an
empty file
called passwd in c:/etc (which doesn't exist). If I try to
write this file,
gvim fails, which, of course, it should. (The gvim I'm using
is the one compiled for NT).
Other have explained why: here is my solution. Put this in your ~/.bashrc:
function gvim { gvim.bat $(cygpath -w $*) ; }
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Re: wordexp function
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 18:12:06 +0200 Franck Leray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the unix wordexp function included in a cygwin package ? Visit http://cygwin.com and follow the Setup Package Search link. -- Mac :}) ** I normally forward private questions to the appropriate mail list. ** Ask Smarter: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Give a hobbit a fish and he eats fish for a day. Give a hobbit a ring and he eats fish for an age. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Path to dynamic libraries
Thanks to everyone who replied to my question. The actual problem I am faced to is that I compiled (and tested) a program (ddd) under Cygwin installed as H:\Cygwin and then distributed the binaries to students who are supposed to install it on their own box. The problem is that the program does not operate as expected on the students machines, apparently because most of them installed Cygwin as C:\Cygwin and the program does not find some dll's. So I am looking for a way to easily translate library path's from a given compile machine to target machines. Any idea someone ? Pierre Gerrit P. Haase wrote: Pierre schrieb: I installed the full Cygwin distribution but apparently it does not include the command 'ldd'. Is there another command which can be used to get the list of dynamic libraries (and their path) that a given executable depends on ? cd bin cygcheck cygwin1.dll Does it make sense to use the environment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH with Cygwin ? No. All the DLL's need to be in a directory that is included in your PATH environment variable like e.g. /bin. PATH always needs to be existent. Gerrit -- =^..^= -- Pierre HABRAKEN - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tél: 04 76 82 72 83 - Fax: 04 76 82 72 87 IMAG-LSR BP72 38402 SAINT MARTIN D'HERES Cedex -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
Hi, Either actually read the mailing list via email as intended or read it via news. We can read/write messages via news.gmane.org server... But, IMHO, a group of discussion would be very useful: for the beginners, for 'repeat' questions and problems, ..., for any debat concerning Cygwin! -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Bug in rxvt 2.7.2: shift-pageup/pagedown ignored with -sk option
Cygwin version: 1.3.12-2 Application: rxvt 2.7.2 If I invoke rxvt as follows: rxvt -sk and then fill the window with lots of output, such as from the command ls -l c:/winnt then the shift-pageup and shift-pagedown keypresses fail to scroll the window (except for the very first shift-pageup)! The -sk option is documented as: -sk|+sk Turn on/off scroll-to-bottom on keypress; resource scrollTtyKeypress. Based on the description of that option, I wouldn't expect shift-pageup and shift-pagedown to stop working. I think this is a bug. -- Francis Litterio [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://world.std.com/~franl/ GPG and PGP public keys available on keyservers. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
*** Philippe Bastiani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) Either actually read the mailing list via email as intended or read :) it via news. :) :) We can read/write messages via news.gmane.org server... :) :) But, IMHO, a group of discussion would be very useful: for the :) beginners, for 'repeat' questions and problems, ..., for any debat :) concerning Cygwin! I agree with a proposal of this type, which should be completely separate from this list, and where people can discuss anything related to cygwin (even ask stupid questions, in whatever sense a question may be stupid). I see why someone would like to keep all the mail related to cygwin in one list, but I also see why some people would like to reduce the number of messages getting to them (yes I know about gmane.org, but gmane.org is not USENET, just one server, which has been slow for me sometimes) Finally, one of the advantages about a separate newsgroup is that people would feel more confortable asking a question. The cygwin mailing list tries very hard to have people not to ask questions (search the FAQs first, look for a better mailing list, etc). Even though I agree with this type of policy from an administrative point of view, I consider it to be a bad policy for cygwin users (the ones that run the stuff that some of you create), since real people are having a need for an answer and maybe directing a question like that towards the newsgroup would take some of the pressure off in sending the question to the list and getting a mean answer back (I got one for my first question, even though I did look at the archives and couldn't find anything). My experience supporting Pine has shown me that most people (not the very technical ones), when they find a problem *in* package X, will go to the mailing list about X to have their question answered. For example, I can't send e-mail with Pine, why?, is a problem with the SMTP server/sendmail/whatever, not with Pine but most people get that problem when using a mail client, so they think that the problem is with the client. In an analogous way, people see problems in cygwin and they go to the cygwin mailing list to have their question answered. Part of the solution of the problem is learning to diagnose the problem, and everyone needs to learn to do that. Maybe one way to get this type of questions out of here is by creating a newsgroup, but just to say the whole thruth, even with a newsgroup to handle this type of questions, some of them will still pop up here (for example, one could add to the policy for the mailing list: if you are not 99% sure that your question/problem is related to cygwin, simply post it to the newsgroup). For these reasons, I completely support the idea of creating an independent newsgroup. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
Yes, your question made me wonder if it wouldn't be nice to have a cygwin-unix-questions mailing list, but then it occurred to me that then we'd have endless and indignant discussions of whether something is cygwin or unix-specific. That's the point of a cygwin-unix list, questions can be either about cygwin or unix and still be relevant. Also, a newbie list geared to people not yet weaned off Windows would (hopefully!) not elicit unhelpful responses like of course you're having problems, you're still using Winblowz! Yes, I know *nix is more stable, reliable, and more powerful, that's why I'm learning! But it's just not practical for many people to chuck everything they have and start over, especially when sharing a computer with someone not very inclined to change. One additional advantage to a Cygwin-unix-newbie list is that since, as Raphael pointed out, Cygwin is no *nix but a posix implementation to win certain questions may not be answered the same way as they might on a Unix list. Anyway, until such a list is created, I'll just stick with Mark's suggestion of prefacing every subject header with a newbie alert, and hopefully keep peace on the list!! :) Thanks for all the input, -Lisi The current method of survival of the fittest seems to work best - if you can pose your question in an interesting manner, it'll get attention, whether it's a unix question or not. People scan the available threads for one that interests them and skip over ones that seem boring. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
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Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For these reasons, I completely support the idea of creating an independent newsgroup. So file the proposal. -- Mac :}) ** I normally forward private questions to the appropriate mail list. ** Ask Smarter: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Give a hobbit a fish and he eats fish for a day. Give a hobbit a ring and he eats fish for an age. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
*** Michael A Chase ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) :) For these reasons, I completely support the idea of creating an :) independent newsgroup. :) :) So file the proposal. Sure, I can do that, but what do the people at redhat think about that?. Do they oppose, don't mind, agree?. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
1.3.12 bug: st_mode of file changes to directory after unlink?
Hi. If I open a file for read/write and then unlink it (the old Unix idiom for temporary files), fstat() on the file's fd shows that st_mode has changed from regular file to directory. Regards, Mark. : ASHOKA ; ./xx /tmp/bt.XX before unlink: mode 0x81a4 fmt 0x8000 size 0 after unlink: mode 0x416d fmt 0x4000 size 0 xx.c Description: Binary data cygcheck.out Description: Binary data -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Help with Cygwin SSH
I'm new to cygwin but not to Linux, and I'm new to your list. I'm hoping someone can help me figuring why port forwarding is not working properly for me. Here's the SSH command: ssh -l myID -L 1234:localhost:21 ftp.myserver.com I connect and login, NP. When I try to ftp from a windows FTP program (notably dreamweaver) I connect, I can see the remote directory displayed but not files or subdirectories. I also get an error about the remote system time being inaccessible. When I try this same procedure with SecureCRT (the app supported at my job), everything works fine. Cygwin SSH does work fine for regular SSH login. I can get into my *nix accounts from BASH. Just the forwarding seem flaky. Thanks in advance, Steve Landry -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 11:54:56AM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: *** Michael A Chase ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) :) For these reasons, I completely support the idea of creating an :) independent newsgroup. :) :) So file the proposal. Sure, I can do that, but what do the people at redhat think about that?. Do they oppose, don't mind, agree?. I think it's a stupid idea. The idea of a bunch of ignorant people asking each other how to do things that only marginally relate to cygwin is certainly not a newsgroup that I want be anywhere near. However, my opinion doesn't really matter. Go ahead, create a mailing list. I won't be reading it. Maybe somebody clueful will join. At least you won't have to deal with me saying that things are off-topic. At least until the first time that someone cross-posts a how does bash work message between the two lists. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 04:02:39PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 11:54:56AM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: *** Michael A Chase ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) :) For these reasons, I completely support the idea of creating an :) independent newsgroup. :) :) So file the proposal. Sure, I can do that, but what do the people at redhat think about that?. Do they oppose, don't mind, agree?. I think it's a stupid idea. The idea of a bunch of ignorant people asking each other how to do things that only marginally relate to cygwin is certainly not a newsgroup that I want be anywhere near. However, my opinion doesn't really matter. Go ahead, create a mailing list. I won't be reading it. Maybe somebody clueful will join. At least you won't have to deal with me saying that things are off-topic. At least until the first time that someone cross-posts a how does bash work message between the two lists. Btw, I am not using the term ignorant as a pejorative. Having read this thread, it seems like everyone agrees that they are almost totally ignorant of various concepts to do with cygwin and unix and maybe with things like how do I find this information on my own?. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
enscript broken pipe:
Hi, I am trying to use enscript: Here is what I get when using it: $ enscript -dlj2 -G enscript.cfg lpr: can't open 'lj2' for writing lpr: The printer name is invalid. Broken pipe The printer lj2 is a network printer. Thanks for any suggestions, Aldi -- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Help with Cygwin SSH
The command below is forwarding only the command channel for ftp. The fact that you were able to login indicates that the tunnel is operating correctly. Successfully tunnelling normal FTP is difficult and normally requires that you can configure either your client or your server so that you can predict which ports will be used for the data connection. There are plenty of references about how to do this on the internet, and it is definitely off-topic for this list. Better yet, just use sftp. Dave Steve Landry wrote: I'm new to cygwin but not to Linux, and I'm new to your list. I'm hoping someone can help me figuring why port forwarding is not working properly for me. Here's the SSH command: ssh -l myID -L 1234:localhost:21 ftp.myserver.com I connect and login, NP. When I try to ftp from a windows FTP program (notably dreamweaver) I connect, I can see the remote directory displayed but not files or subdirectories. I also get an error about the remote system time being inaccessible. When I try this same procedure with SecureCRT (the app supported at my job), everything works fine. Cygwin SSH does work fine for regular SSH login. I can get into my *nix accounts from BASH. Just the forwarding seem flaky. Thanks in advance, Steve Landry -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
*** Christopher Faylor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 11:54:56AM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: :) *** Michael A Chase ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) :) :) On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa :) :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) :) :) :) For these reasons, I completely support the idea of creating an :) :) independent newsgroup. :) :) :) :) So file the proposal. :) :) Sure, I can do that, but what do the people at redhat think about :) that?. Do they oppose, don't mind, agree?. :) :) [deleted some comments] :) :) Go ahead, create a mailing list. :) :) [deleted more comments] Chris, thanks for your message and the permission. Since I did not create this thread, I would not like to take the credit from anyone, however, I would be willing to do the work that it will take to create the newsgroup. If all the people that agree with this idea, could contact me off the list, so that we can start to write a proposal, and see if there's enough show of hands to do all this work it would be appreciated. Those who disagree can also write to me off the list. Thanks! -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 04:02:39PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 11:54:56AM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: *** Michael A Chase ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Eduardo Chappa :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) :) For these reasons, I completely support the idea of creating an :) independent newsgroup. :) :) So file the proposal. Sure, I can do that, but what do the people at redhat think about that?. Do they oppose, don't mind, agree?. I think it's a stupid idea. The idea of a bunch of ignorant people asking each other how to do things that only marginally relate to cygwin is certainly not a newsgroup that I want be anywhere near. However, my opinion doesn't really matter. Go ahead, create a mailing list. I won't be reading it. Maybe somebody clueful will join. At least you won't have to deal with me saying that things are off-topic. At least until the first time that someone cross-posts a how does bash work message between the two lists. If this list would have halve the atitude as you will find on the pine list, where Eduardo btw is doing great work, then this problem might not even exist. -- James Joyce -- an essentially private man who wished his total indifference to public notice to be universally recognized. -- Tom Stoppard msg10012/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
ftp with mc
Hi, Just a few days with Cygwin and I'm doing fine, thanks to all contributors Problem is with ftp in mc. When link times out (I'm editing php and then come back to upload the changes) I get an empty directory and error:'ftpfs: failed; nowhere to fall back to' In the mc list archives as recently as April 2002 I've found talk of this problem but no patch. MC version 4.5.55 Has anyone come across this problem and/or could tell me where to found more recent binaries without the problem? TIA, Darryl Cousins -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
At 10:48 AM 9/30/2002 -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: Finally, one of the advantages about a separate newsgroup is that people would feel more confortable asking a question. The cygwin mailing list tries very hard to have people not to ask questions (search the FAQs first, look for a better mailing list, etc). Even though I agree with this type of policy from an administrative point of view, I consider it to be a bad policy for cygwin users (the ones that run the stuff that some of you create), since real people are having a need for an answer and maybe directing a question like that towards the newsgroup would take some of the pressure off in sending the question to the list and getting a mean answer back (I got one for my first question, even though I did look at the archives and couldn't find anything). A group that does all the work to answer anyone's question, no matter how obvious the answer or easy to find it is elsewhere, no matter that it is the hundredth time it has been asked that week? Yes, that sounds like a wonderful thing...for the people who are asking the questions. But who's going to do all that work? Where you are going to find these angels who want to spend their free time explaining What's bash over and over and over to people who are too lazy to even try Google? On the other hand, if you are volunteering to *be* such a person, I'm sure nobody here would try to stop you. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Pb connecting to cygwin
I have installed cygwin without problem (I'm under W2000). My Window user's account (Administrator's one) is Stéphane (from french, so with accent = :( on the cygwin shell ). I have installed cygwin to try Postgresql. I have installed postgresql without problem. But since I have ended this installation, creating a new user postgres, and reboot on my own account Stéphane , I have a prompt : I have no name !@machine ~ The only thing I've done between is to download on another directory , using cygwin setup the source from your web site to be abble to install again on my notebook (which run under W2000 either). In the same way I can't start the service postmaster (of Postgresql I imagine). the shell command (I have made the cygrunsrv command with the user postgres before) : net start postmaster give me back a system error 1069 (fail in opening an session). But , I can launch postgresql by opening a postgresql server session with /usr/bin/postmaster -D /usr/share/postgresql/data And opening another session with the classic postgresql psql -U postgres template1 I don't know if all this way of proceeding is classic or if something's going wrong. Thanks for help, --- Stéphane Valcauda independent engineer France -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
*** Jeremy Hetzler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) A group that does all the work to answer anyone's question, no matter :) how obvious the answer or easy to find it is elsewhere, no matter that :) it is the hundredth time it has been asked that week? Yes, that sounds :) like a wonderful thing...for the people who are asking the questions. :) But who's going to do all that work? Where you are going to find these :) angels who want to spend their free time explaining What's bash over :) and over and over to people who are too lazy to even try Google? Dear Jeremy, I agree in some of the stuff you say. Answering the same question over and over is tiresome. Right. However, you are making the assumption that the only type of questions that people can ask in such a list is a basic question asked millions of times before. I will have to disagree with you, there's no proof of that, just an assumption from your part. Let me tell you how I see this. When I've supported Pine, I haven't looked at the content of the question as much as I've looked at the value of the answer. Just to give you an example, someone once asked me if Pine supported justification of several levels of quotes. The answer at the time was no. If that person had not asked that question, I would have never written a patch for Pine that implements such a feature. Same thing about fancy thread interface in Pine4.44. If you believe that everything is about the question, I believe that you are missing a lot. It's never been about the question, but the answer, no matter how many times the question has been asked before. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Cygwin and NetHack - strncasecmp compile error
I am trying to compile nethack on cygwin. If it done let me know, and I will quite, but I haven't found it. In /usr/include/string.h the function strncasecmp is defined. This conflicts with line 688 in extern.h in the cygwin files. I want to resolve that, conflict, My C is rusty, like 5 years ago. string.h int _EXFUN(strcasecmp,(const char *, const char *)); 688: extern.h E int FDECL(strncmpi, (const char *,const char *,int)); I don't understand why these lines conflict. Here is the error message: gcc -O -I../include -c -o hacklib.o hacklib.c In file included from ../include/hack.h:107, from hacklib.c:7: ../include/extern.h:688: conflicting types for `strncasecmp' /usr/include/string.h:65: previous declaration of `strncasecmp' make[1]: *** [hacklib.o] Error 1 Any thoughts on how I start to resolve this? Thank you. __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Bug in rxvt 2.7.2: shift-pageup/pagedown ignored with -sk option
Hum... I can not only confirm this one, but also get a reproducible crash if I press Ctrl+Left at the end of a line. rxvt just vanishes, no error message, nothing. Makes it a pain to use bash and long command lines... Rui Carmo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: ncftp's lls requiring /bin/more
Brandon Saxe wrote: fyi: more comes with the latest cygwin setup. brandon saxe - Original Message - From: Greg Matheson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 11:29 PM Subject: ncftp's lls requiring /bin/more Another ncftp peculiarity is lls, which won't work because it requires /usr/bin/more. The manual says you can set the environmental variable, $PAGER, but that didn't work for me. I forced lls to work by linking /bin/less to /bin/more. When ncftp was first ported cygwin didn't have /bin/more so it was patched to use less instead. It seems that we missed at least one place were more is referenced directly. Oh well back to patching ... -- Greg MathesonFailed to turn my reluctant students into autonomous Chinmin College language learners, but it did wonders for my personal fitness program. Taiwan Penpals Archive URL: http://penpals.chinmin.edu.tw/ -- Med venlig hilsen / Kind regards Hack Kampbjørn -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 03:28:00PM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: Let me tell you how I see this. When I've supported Pine, I haven't looked at the content of the question as much as I've looked at the value of the answer. Just to give you an example, someone once asked me if Pine supported justification of several levels of quotes. The answer at the time was no. If that person had not asked that question, I would have never written a patch for Pine that implements such a feature. Same thing about fancy thread interface in Pine4.44. If you believe that everything is about the question, I believe that you are missing a lot. It's never been about the question, but the answer, no matter how many times the question has been asked before. Um, yeah. This is sort of obvious, isn't it? Cygwin has progressed because of user observations and complaints. Take a look at Cygwin circa 1998 and Cygwin circa 2002. To use one example: mmap. It has improved steadily over the last year because Corinna has listened to people saying why doesn't this work? She could have said Because it isn't implemented, stupid! or Because it is too hard! but she didn't. She just implemented new features and pushed the envelope of what was supported. The fact that mmap works on Windows 95 at all, is a minor miracle. However, this really side steps the issue. Five hundred How do I get to the previous command in bash? questions are not going to lead to new insight about cygwin. That's what we're talking about. A question like (to use a recent example) Why doesn't vim notice when I resize a console window under cygwin? will lead to cygwin insights. I'd rather see those kind of questions asked in the official forum and point the bash people to the appropriate documentation. Basically, I don't see anything that's been discussed which will make this newsgroup more useful than the mailing list. We've already shown that it won't be a very attractive place for experienced people to hang out because, apparently, observations like You really should read the bash info page, specifically the section on the command line will be considered overly harsh. Instead, every answer should be kind and caring towards the newbie status of the questioners who should never be treated with anything other than complete patience. And, every question should just be answered without any thought to teaching people where to find things. Again, I have to wonder who would want to hang out in such a forum. I also have to wonder how it would be possible that this one place on the internet could be carved out differently than every other place I've seen. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Login command
When I try login command with any of my windows NT account / password, it doesn't work. even after MkPasswd. Is it a problem of passwd or something else ? I read the FAQ on SU problem, but I don't find answers to solve this login problem. Thanks for help, --- Stéphane Valcauda independent engineer France -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: newer bintuils
--- Alan Hourihane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicholas Wourms wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... --- Alan Hourihane wrote: Alan Hourihane wrote in message amnb7e$7k5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:amnb7e$7k5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Anyone know when the new binutils will be out with Egor's fixes for auto-import of arrays ? Anyone know the expected ETA for this ? No, because Egor's application for copyright assignment is currently stuck in the Russian Postal System. We could be in for a long wait... I think we need a new cygwin dll for this too first though - don't we? Yes, you are correct. However there are currently some pthread issues which are being resolved before this happens. Anyhow, as previously mentioned, we are probably in for a long wait. That's unfortunate, because we won't be able to make shared libXt, libXmu and libXaw for Cygwin/XFree86 until we do get them. (Unless some serious hacking around the arrays goes on, not something I relish doing). Guess we'll have to wait. sigh. Yeah it is a pity, but I think it'll be worth the wait. Besides, cygserver might be stable enough by then that we could turn on MIT-SHM =). Oh well, I guess we'll see. I suppose once the new kernel is released, you could get Egor to send you a set of unofficial binutils to build the new X11? Oh well, I'll leave that in your capable hands :-). Cheers, Nicholas __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: ftp and ncftp hangs: any ideas?
Rob Anderson wrote: Newest version installed off the web today, previous version 6 mos ago did not have the problem. Symptom: ftp hangs after ls, or get, or put. It hangs AFTER completing the operation. (overrun?) Systems: Win 98 (cygwin) talking to Linux. Other: I thought it might be related to rxvt, so I switched back to the dos shell: it still hangs under bash. I tried ncftp, often it will run without hanging, however if I set passive or other switches it too will hang. It seems like if I set any options for it, it hangs the same way. I tried redirecting the console (!) and ftp still did the same thing, ncftp seems to overrun, but I have no previous experience with ncftp to compare. THE DOS VERSION OF FTP works ok, it does not hang under the dos shell so (IMO) it is bash/cygwin related. Any ideas on what to try? Yes look in .ncftp/trace. It's probably a network or configuration issue but without debug output it's impossible to tell. Thanks, Rob -- Med venlig hilsen / Kind regards Hack Kampbjørn -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
*** Christopher Faylor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) [some comments deleted] :) :) However, this really side steps the issue. Five hundred How do I get :) to the previous command in bash? questions are not going to lead to new :) insight about cygwin. That's what we're talking about. I guess I can reprhase that to as saying that's what you and some other people are talking about. That's not what I am talking about. Let people ask questions, let's see what comes out of it. Maybe a bug report in a package will come out, a minor improvement may come out too, who knows. I understand that some questions are more appropriate in some mailing lists than others, but nobody has a tally of how many innapropiate questions are not being asked, nor how many appropriate questions are not being asked. You can not guess what will happen in there, you can't predict it, and if you will never be there, you will never know. It's basically a situation in which you don't want to be involved, and that's fine, but why complain about it, if it's not going to affect you in any way. I don't see the point. :) A question like (to use a recent example) Why doesn't vim notice when :) I resize a console window under cygwin? will lead to cygwin insights. :) I'd rather see those kind of questions asked in the official forum and :) point the bash people to the appropriate documentation. As I pointed out before, part of the problem is to learn to diagnose it. You certainly know how to do that, and know which questions are appropriate in each forum, not everyone knows that (as obvious as this may seem to you), so give them a way to ask those questions, even if they ask a question which is not obviously cygwin related. Let me give you an example, I am seeing a problem in Pine (and this happened to me!), in which I want to copy messages between systems (from a folder in a local directory to a folder in a remote server, accessed through IMAP). Every time I attempt to do this I get a message back saying closed connection (data). Question. Do I ask the question of why this is failing in the cygwin mailing list or not? It's not clear where the problem is, there are lots of variables that could affect the answer to this question. Here there are some possible answers to the question: a) The message is not being saved in the right way, it's the user's fault. read the help about configuring remote folders and try again. b) the imap server is faulty, it's not Pine's fault. c) it's a bug in Pine. d) it's a bug in openSSL (distributed by cygwin) that happens because openssl uses a microsoft library to compile its product and that library had the bug. e) It's a bug in cygwin.dll It may be that the answer has to do with cygwin (e.g (e)), or it may be (a), regardless of whatever it is, the question must be asked in order to try to understand what the real answer is. Because of the policy of questions in this list, I do not believe a question like this will come out any time soon. What I mean to say with all of this, is that you can't know what the forum will be like, and I see more advantages than disadvantages to its existence. :) Basically, I don't see anything that's been discussed which will make :) this newsgroup more useful than the mailing list. I am not trying to sell refrigerators in the north pole, I am saying that there are people that need answers. You never know which question will come out of there. You are welcome to join the project, you are free to stay out of there, but just because it's not a project that you believe in, it doesn't mean it will be bad. :) We've already shown that it won't be a very attractive place for :) experienced people to hang out because, apparently, observations like :) You really should read the bash info page, specifically the section on :) the command line will be considered overly harsh. Instead, every :) answer should be kind and caring towards the newbie status of the :) questioners who should never be treated with anything other than :) complete patience. And, every question should just be answered without :) any thought to teaching people where to find things. You've already shown that there are scenarios in this newsgroup in which you do not want to participate, and that's fine. Everyone is welcome to come and participate or simply not to join. I see no reason why you put such a bad tag in a project that doesn't exist (yet). This sounds like you are sending a message of not participating to others, not as a statement of your beliefs, which you have already stated repeatedly over and over. :) Again, I have to wonder who would want to hang out in such a forum. I :) also have to wonder how it would be possible that this one place on the :) internet could be carved out differently than every other place I've :) seen. See? -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting:
Nethack and Cygwin - Compils, Installs and doesn't work :)
I got past some challenges, but am a little confused on where to go next with Cygwin and debugging this. Nethack compiled, no errors. It installed in the /usr/games directory where it put nethack.exe I run nethack.exe and it just sits there, no error nothing. Any ideas, on what I could try or has anyone else tried this? __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Nethack and Cygwin - Compils, Installs and doesn't work :)
On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 10:31, Brian Rowe wrote: I got past some challenges, but am a little confused on where to go next with Cygwin and debugging this. Nethack compiled, no errors. It installed in the /usr/games directory where it put nethack.exe I run nethack.exe and it just sits there, no error nothing. Any ideas, on what I could try or has anyone else tried this? It worked fine a couple of years back. I sent some patches off for it, which got accepted. Cheers, Rob -- --- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. --- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 05:16:53PM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: *** Christopher Faylor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: It's basically a situation in which you don't want to be involved, and that's fine, but why complain about it, if it's not going to affect you in any way. I don't see the point. As long as you and others are going to be making observations in a mailing list which I am reading, I'll probably be trying to correct misapprehensions where I see them. I actually refrained from commenting until you specifically asked for my opinion so now you are getting it in ever increasing detail. :) A question like (to use a recent example) Why doesn't vim notice when :) I resize a console window under cygwin? will lead to cygwin insights. :) I'd rather see those kind of questions asked in the official forum and :) point the bash people to the appropriate documentation. As I pointed out before, part of the problem is to learn to diagnose it. You certainly know how to do that, and know which questions are appropriate in each forum, not everyone knows that (as obvious as this may seem to you), Did I say that people should innately know that their bash question was a generic one? No, I didn't. I said that their bash question should be answered by pointing to the appropriate documentation. I didn't endorse calling the person an idiot or trumpeting knowledge of what is appropriate or not. I just think that teaching people how to do their own research and maybe how to do some problem solving on their own has good long term benefits both for the individual and for society. It sounds like the main problem may be that people are embarrassed when they are told Here's where you can find the answer. That's unfortunate, if true. so give them a way to ask those questions, even if they ask a question which is not obviously cygwin related. And, we have that: It's called the cygwin mailing list. If someone asks a question that is not appropriate they are nearly always told where they can find the answer. Let me give you an example, I am seeing a problem in Pine (and this happened to me!), in which I want to copy messages between systems (from a folder in a local directory to a folder in a remote server, accessed through IMAP). Every time I attempt to do this I get a message back saying closed connection (data). Question. Do I ask the question of why this is failing in the cygwin mailing list or not? Is it a problem with a cygwin port of pine or with an imap running under cygwin? If so, of course you can ask it in the cygwin mailing list. That is *exactly* why we have the cygwin mailing list. If you read this list for any amount of time you'll see that there are all sorts of questions about (for instance) cron and ssh. Are they always cygwin-specific questions? Who knows? The questions get answered or not and sometimes you find that after investigation they are not cygwin specific at all. Sometimes they don't get answered at all, just like every other mailing list or newsgroup in the world. Who cares? There is nothing in the mailing list charter that implies you have to be clairvoyant to post. There is also no guarantee that your question will be answered. However, no one should draw the conclusion that the question wasn't answered because it was too newbie-ish or not cygwin related. Assuming that you did ask this question in this new cygwin newsgroup, it sure sounds like you are going to be expecting some kind of expert help from (maybe) a pine maintainer. That might be good for pine if you are going to be reading the newsgroup. It won't be very good for other packages (e.g., cron, ssh) where the maintainer will not necessarily be reading the sanctioned forum for discussing such issues. So, actually, your example sounds like exactly the wrong kind of thing for the newsgroup. This isn't really a newbie question. It's more of a in-depth debugging question which I would not have expected for what you are proposing. It may be that the answer has to do with cygwin (e.g (e)), or it may be (a), regardless of whatever it is, the question must be asked in order to try to understand what the real answer is. As long as you're asking a question about a cygwin port of pine, ask the question. I'm surprised that this is at all confusing. Because of the policy of questions in this list, I do not believe a question like this will come out any time soon. Sorry but you're wrong. This is not against list policy. What could we possibly even discuss in the cygwin mailing list if we couldn't discuss problems with packages that come with the cygwin mailing list? I am not trying to sell refrigerators in the north pole, I'm not in any way doubting your sincerity or your desire to help. It sounds like you're just working from faulty premises, though. You've already shown that there are scenarios in this newsgroup in which you do not want to participate, and that's fine. Everyone is welcome to come and
Re: Nethack and Cygwin - Compils, Installs and doesn't work :)
On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 11:17, Brian Rowe wrote: Any idea where they are now? When I looked at the list of support applications nethack was not on there. In nethack 3.3 almost all of the cygwin compile statements have been removed. The cursor just flashes around the screen, and I have to close cygwin. If you have any of those files or what you changed, I'd like Please keep the discussion onlist, for the archives. I'm sorry, but I don't have those old files around anymore. You might try a couple of versions back, until it works, and then binary search forward to find what broke it. Cheers, Rob -- --- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. --- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
sourceware.cygnus.com going away
I'm going to pull the plug on the old host name sourceware.cygnus.com soon. sources.redhat.com and its alias cygwin.com will continue to work as always. If you are referring to sourceware.cygnus.com for cvs scripts or in bookmarks, however, you'll have to change this if you want to continue to access the site. This should, I hope, only affect those old-timers out there who remember sourceware.cygnus.com from a couple of years ago. We've been bouncing email to sourceware.cygnus.com for a while now. It's time to now pull the plug entirely. Lets all have a moment of silence now. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
libxslt 1.0.13-1 stability problems
I've experiencing stability problems with libxslt 1.0.13-1. I'm frequently receiving segmentation faults when running xsltproc as follows: xsltproc --catalogs --output foo.html /home/administrator/DocBook/docbook-xsl-1.55.0/xhtml/chunk.xsl book.xml So far I've been able to work around each occurrence by rearranging my document, but that gets annoying before long. So I downloaded the source for libxml2 2.4.25 and libxslt 1.0.21 from xmlsoft.org and attempted to build my own binaries, but I was unable to get libxml2 to build. It appeared to compile fine, but when I did a 'make install' it died while invoking libtool and spit out the following: /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2 -Wall -o xmllint.exe xmllint.o ./libxml2.la -lz -lm gcc -g -O2 -Wall -o xmllint.exe xmllint.o ./.libs/libxml2.a -lz xmllint.o: In function `xmlHTMLEncodeSend': /home/administrator/libxslt/libxml2-2.4.25/xmllint.c:273: undefined reference to `_imp__xmlGenericError' /home/administrator/libxslt/libxml2-2.4.25/xmllint.c:273: undefined reference to `_imp__xmlGenericErrorContext' /home/administrator/libxslt/libxml2-2.4.25/xmllint.c:274: undefined reference to `_imp__xmlFree' xmllint.o: In function `xmlHTMLPrintFileInfo': /home/administrator/libxslt/libxml2-2.4.25/xmllint.c:289: undefined reference to `_imp__xmlGenericError' /home/administrator/libxslt/libxml2-2.4.25/xmllint.c:289: undefined reference to `_imp__xmlGenericErrorContext' [...more of the same...] I'm hoping someone has already walked this path and can save me the time it will take to debug this linker problem. I'm using: Windows 2000 SP3 Cygwin 1.3.12-4 Mike -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: libxslt 1.0.13-1 stability problems
On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 12:35, Mike Bresnahan wrote: I've experiencing stability problems with libxslt 1.0.13-1. I'm frequently receiving segmentation faults when running xsltproc as follows: I'm hoping someone has already walked this path and can save me the time it will take to debug this linker problem. Yes the maintainer for cygwin (thats me) has. Run setup, grab the source package, and there is a patch there that you will need ot update to the current libxslt package. Doing so takes some care and effort, and I've not had time recently to update it - or I'd have released an update. Rob -- --- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. --- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
RE: Cygwin: name of an lwp-request script (HEAD) clashes with/bin/head
I don't. However, some other perl packages that I used were dependent on LWP, and the scripts got installed along with it. For some reason I wasn't asked whether those should be created. Igor On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, McEvoy, Peter wrote: Can you not use the lwp-request wrapper script? Pete -Original Message- From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 September 2002 23:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cygwin: name of an lwp-request script (HEAD) clashes with /bin/head Hi, When installing LWP through CPAN, the installation creates the GET, HEAD and POST scripts in /usr/bin. On Cygwin, the name HEAD clashes with an existing program, /bin/head.exe (Cygwin assumes a .exe extension if it cannot find a program, so /bin/head normally invokes /bin/head.exe). Windows mostly disallows files with the same name in different cases, unlike Unix, which has no trouble distinguishing between HEAD and head. So, to accommodate the users of Cygwin and others using case-insensitive filesystems, can the scripts GET, HEAD, and POST be renamed to GET.pl, HEAD.pl, and POST.pl? Would this break a lot of existing functionality? Thank you. Igor Pechtchanski P.S. I've cc'd the cygwin mailing list, as this is relevant to Cygwin. -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Water molecules expand as they grow warmer (C) Popular Science, Oct'02, p.51 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
man : List of all commands in a section
= Windows 2000 CYGWIN_NT-5.0 = Is it possible to get list of * all section * all commands in some section ? == Alex Vinokur mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://up.to/alexvn == -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Rbash
Has anyone had sucess in useing Rbash to restrict locations remote users can access/ or do? Chris K Ellsworth -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: enscript broken pipe:
Hallo Aldi, Am Montag, 30. September 2002 um 22:27 schriebst du: Hi, I am trying to use enscript: Here is what I get when using it: $ enscript -dlj2 -G enscript.cfg lpr: can't open 'lj2' for writing lpr: The printer name is invalid. Broken pipe The printer lj2 is a network printer. Thanks for any suggestions, Aldi Have you configured the printer as advised in the README (included since version enscript-1.6.3-3, share in the example is the name of the printershare): Print: - Charles Wilson explained the usage of lpr.exe: Currently, lpr.exe from the cygutils package is not documented (at all), and it expects printer shares to be specified using backslash notation: \\computer\share of course, since those are backslashes, they have to be escaped: computer\\share and what's odd, is that sometimes they must be escaped twice computershare because two shells parse it. Gerrit -- =^..^= -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
