Re: [ITP] ncdu 1.1

2007-06-14 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
 Christian Franke writes:

 ncdu is a ncurses-based disk usage viewer. It provides a fast and
 easy-to-use interface through 'du' utility. It allows to browse
 through the directories and show percentages of disk
 usage. (http://dev.yorhel.nl/ncdu/)

+1

Ciao
  Volker


RE: [ITP] ncdu 1.1

2007-06-14 Thread DePriest, Jason R.
 -Original Message-
 From:  On Behalf Of Christian Franke
 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 2:06 PM
 To: cygwin-apps
 Subject: [ITP] ncdu 1.1
 
 ncdu is a ncurses-based disk usage viewer. It provides a fast and 
 easy-to-use interface through 'du' utility. It allows to browse
through 
 the directories and show percentages of disk usage. 
 (http://dev.yorhel.nl/ncdu/)
 
 http://franke.dvrdns.org/cygwin/release/ncdu/ncdu-1.1-1.tar.bz2
 http://franke.dvrdns.org/cygwin/release/ncdu/ncdu-1.1-1-src.tar.bz2
 http://franke.dvrdns.org/cygwin/release/ncdu/setup.hint
 
 
 Debian: http://packages.debian.org/testing/admin/ncdu
 Gentoo: http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=ncdu
 
 Christian

Incidentally, I downloaded the source from the
http://dev.yorhel.nl/ncdu/ and it compiled flawlessly under Cygwin.

I ran it and had it start at the root folder, /.

I anticipated it taking a very long time to finish, but not hours.  I
let it run for around four hours during which my processor stayed  90%
usage, even with On-access virus scanning disabled.

During which time is dug through all of my mapped network drives, my
entire local hard drive, and the Windows registry via /proc/registry.

It bombed out sometime during the scan of /proc/registry, but I can't be
sure exactly where.  The display was still there, but it had dropped to
a command-line underneath.  The path was cut off due to the size of the
display box.

So, caveat emptor.

-Jason

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Re: [ITP] ncdu 1.1

2007-06-14 Thread Christian Franke

DePriest, Jason R. wrote:

...
Incidentally, I downloaded the source from the
http://dev.yorhel.nl/ncdu/ and it compiled flawlessly under Cygwin.

I ran it and had it start at the root folder, /.

I anticipated it taking a very long time to finish, but not hours.  I
let it run for around four hours during which my processor stayed  90%
usage, even with On-access virus scanning disabled.

During which time is dug through all of my mapped network drives, my
entire local hard drive, and the Windows registry via /proc/registry.

  


Confirmed.
Actually ncdu does not handle the special case / and calls e.g. 
lstat(//bin,.).

This is OK on Linux  friends, but specifies an UNC path on Cygwin.
(I don't know whether POSIX specifies the behaviour on duplicate slashes).
ncdu also does not handle the error returned by lstat() in this case.

I will provide a fixed package and send the patch upstream.


It bombed out sometime during the scan of /proc/registry, but I can't be
sure exactly where.  The display was still there, but it had dropped to
a command-line underneath.  The path was cut off due to the size of the
display box.

  


Could not reproduce this.

Thanks for the info.

Christian



[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: cron-4.1-5

2007-06-14 Thread Pierre A. Humblet
I have updated cron to version 4.1-5

NEWS:
cron

Add support for the /etc/cron.d directory.
  (with thanks to Thomas Berger)

Please direct all comments and questions to the cygwin list, mentioning
cron in the Subject: line and ATTACHING the output of /usr/bin/cronbug.

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Re: folder creation

2007-06-14 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

jayachandran kamaraj wrote:

any folder created by windows inside my documents has just d- 


the folder needs at least one x set.

chmod manually?

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: cron-4.1-5

2007-06-14 Thread Jared Silva

Pierre A. Humblet wrote:

Add support for the /etc/cron.d directory.
  (with thanks to Thomas Berger)


Can you please provide (or point to) a detailed explanation of the
change and its impact?

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cross compilation

2007-06-14 Thread ICE

Hi

I understand that cygwin does not provide glibc.
does it provide uclibc ???

if not how can i create a cross compilation tool chain.

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Re: cross compilation

2007-06-14 Thread Brian Dessent
ICE wrote:

 I understand that cygwin does not provide glibc.
 does it provide uclibc ???

No.  Cygwin itself is a libc.  Therefore there is no need for any other,
nor would any other even build, since a libc is a very low level system
component.

 if not how can i create a cross compilation tool chain.

Sign.  Native and cross are two totally different things.  If you've
been talking about a cross toolchain this whole time then that changes
all the answers.  You can't assume we know what you want when you write
these terse questions with no details.

It is completely possible to build a cross toolchain under Cygwin that
includes glibc.  See for example the crosstool script and the crossgcc
mailing list.  But you certainly can't just download glibc and run
./configure, that is a *native* build, and there is no way that will
ever work.  And just so we're perfectly clear, the resulting output of
this cross toolchain would never be executable or usable under Cygwin or
under Windows.

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gcc with glib

2007-06-14 Thread PRIEUR Christophe RD-TECH-ISS

Hi there,

I'm trying to compile some C program using glib 2.0 and i have some
trouble.

Here is my command line:
gcc -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -l glib-2.0 TestGLib.c

First gcc told me it didn't find glibconfig.h, that happened to be in an
awkward directory, namely
/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include/
Awkward because there was no other files in this directory and all glib
header files are in /usr/include/glib-2.0 (in particular glib/gtypes.h
that includes glibconfig.h)

So i've copied it to the proper directory (and don't ask me why it
wasn't there already).
First problem fixed.

Now my real problem is that gcc doesn't look able to manage link
edition:


/cygdrive/c/me/LOCALS~1/Temp/ccgMXEyg.o:TestGLib.c:(.text+0x2e):
undefined reference to `_g_int_equal'
/cygdrive/c/me/LOCALS~1/Temp/ccgMXEyg.o:TestGLib.c:(.text+0x35):
undefined reference to `_g_int_hash'
/cygdrive/c/me/LOCALS~1/Temp/ccgMXEyg.o:TestGLib.c:(.text+0x3a):
undefined reference to `_g_hash_table_new'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status


It didn't find the binary code for functions that were declared in
glib.h etc.
The file /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.a is there though.

My version of cygwin: CYGWIN_NT-5.1

Any clues?

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Re: gcc with glib

2007-06-14 Thread Brian Dessent
PRIEUR Christophe RD-TECH-ISS wrote:

 Here is my command line:
 gcc -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -l glib-2.0 TestGLib.c

The order of arguments of your command is wrong.  The linker works from
left to right, resolving undefined references as it goes.  If it sees a
library specified before any objects using symbols from that library, it
won't include anything from the library.

Brian

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Re: Cygwin allocted time slice

2007-06-14 Thread Aaron Gray

On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 04:15:40AM +0100, Aaron Gray wrote:

Cygwin seems to only use a small amount of time slice relative to the
ammount of time slice availiable.  Compiles, builds and testsuite are
relly slow compared to MinGW which takes too much time.

'time' results confirm this.  Process time is about 1/4 of the total
system time.

It i very noticable on compiling and testing GCC as compared to the
same on Linux or MinGW.

Is there any way to give Cygwin a bigger slice of the pie ?

Say 50% or 75% ?


How do you suppose Cygwin is managing this interesting feat of only
using some of the CPU time?  What Windows API is Cygwin using to just
grab a small slice of the time?


Weird I was getting very long compile times for GCC and on using 'time' was 
getting indications that make was only getting 25% of total system time.


I'll see if it is repeatable on another system.


As a follow-up question:  Why do you suppose we are punishing you by
not allowing Cygwin to use all of the CPU by default?

Oh.  Wait.  WJM.  Nevermind.


Weird reply, no need to take the micky !

Aaron


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Re: Cygwin allocted time slice

2007-06-14 Thread Aaron Gray
Weird I was getting very long compile times for GCC and on using 'time' 
was getting indications that make was only getting 25% of total system 
time.


Sorry that was sys time was 25% of real time.

Aaron


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Batch installation, possibly without setup.exe?

2007-06-14 Thread David Kastrup

Hi,

if I want to install a version of Cygwin without user interaction
(optimally just dropping a bunch of files via unzip), is that
feasible?

In particular: does setup.exe fiddle with the registry or other files
that can't be just overwritten as a whole?

Obviously, one might want to have PATH adjusted, but apart from that?

Thanks,

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Re: Cygwin allocted time slice

2007-06-14 Thread Chris McClements

Aaron Gray wrote:

On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 04:15:40AM +0100, Aaron Gray wrote:

Cygwin seems to only use a small amount of time slice relative to the
ammount of time slice availiable.  Compiles, builds and testsuite are
relly slow compared to MinGW which takes too much time.

'time' results confirm this.  Process time is about 1/4 of the total
system time.

It i very noticable on compiling and testing GCC as compared to the
same on Linux or MinGW.

Is there any way to give Cygwin a bigger slice of the pie ?

Say 50% or 75% ?


Process scheduling is an operating system task.



How do you suppose Cygwin is managing this interesting feat of only
using some of the CPU time?  What Windows API is Cygwin using to just
grab a small slice of the time?


Weird I was getting very long compile times for GCC and on using 'time' 
was getting indications that make was only getting 25% of total system 
time.




File IO?


I'll see if it is repeatable on another system.


As a follow-up question:  Why do you suppose we are punishing you by
not allowing Cygwin to use all of the CPU by default?

Oh.  Wait.  WJM.  Nevermind.


Weird reply, no need to take the micky !


Hes trying to tell you you've got the wrong idea. Why try to assert things about 
time slices when you clearly are not sure about what is going on?




Aaron


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Re: Cygwin allocted time slice

2007-06-14 Thread Brian Dessent
Aaron Gray wrote:

 Weird I was getting very long compile times for GCC and on using 'time' was
 getting indications that make was only getting 25% of total system time.
 
 I'll see if it is repeatable on another system.

Hint: Cygwin is slow.

Emulating fork() takes a complicated dance between parent and child.  A
lot of this involves one waiting for the other to complete a stage of
initialization.  Thus, a Cygwin process that spawns a lot of children
does a lot of waiting.  It is a price you pay for being able to compile
POSIX source unmodified on Windows.

Also, I/O.

Also, Cygwin is around ten years old now, and people have been
complaining that it's slow for approximately 9 years and 364 days.  Do
you really think that if speeding it up was a matter of just setting
some scheduling flag somewhere it would have gone unnoticed all this
time?

Brian

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Re: Cygwin allocted time slice

2007-06-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 04:20:04PM +0100, Aaron Gray wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 04:15:40AM +0100, Aaron Gray wrote:
 Cygwin seems to only use a small amount of time slice relative to the
 ammount of time slice availiable.  Compiles, builds and testsuite are
 relly slow compared to MinGW which takes too much time.

 'time' results confirm this.  Process time is about 1/4 of the total
 system time.

 It i very noticable on compiling and testing GCC as compared to the
 same on Linux or MinGW.

 Is there any way to give Cygwin a bigger slice of the pie ?

 Say 50% or 75% ?

 How do you suppose Cygwin is managing this interesting feat of only
 using some of the CPU time?  What Windows API is Cygwin using to just
 grab a small slice of the time?

 Weird I was getting very long compile times for GCC and on using 'time' was 
 getting indications that make was only getting 25% of total system time.

 I'll see if it is repeatable on another system.

 As a follow-up question:  Why do you suppose we are punishing you by
 not allowing Cygwin to use all of the CPU by default?

 Oh.  Wait.  WJM.  Nevermind.

 Weird reply, no need to take the micky !

You have apparently made an assumption that Cygwin is purposely using
only a part of the CPU.  What's weird about asking for your rationale
for why anyone would write a program which did such a thing, leaving it
to some undocumented procedure to get better performance?  Why do you
think we wouldn't just make this the default?

In other words: your assumptions don't make a lot of sense.

Here are some better assumptions:

1) Hey!  Maybe, since 'time' is a linux program, whatever is needed to get
it to work accurately isn't well-implemented in Cygwin, so you can't trust
its output.

2) Hey!  I just remembered that Cygwin is an emulation layer on top of
Windows.  That means that there is a lot more code being executed than
would be the case for MinGW!  Maybe *that's* why things are slower!

cgf

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Re: Cygwin allocted time slice

2007-06-14 Thread Aaron Gray

On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 04:20:04PM +0100, Aaron Gray wrote:

On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 04:15:40AM +0100, Aaron Gray wrote:

Cygwin seems to only use a small amount of time slice relative to the
ammount of time slice availiable.  Compiles, builds and testsuite are
relly slow compared to MinGW which takes too much time.

'time' results confirm this.  Process time is about 1/4 of the total
system time.

It i very noticable on compiling and testing GCC as compared to the
same on Linux or MinGW.

Is there any way to give Cygwin a bigger slice of the pie ?

Say 50% or 75% ?


How do you suppose Cygwin is managing this interesting feat of only
using some of the CPU time?  What Windows API is Cygwin using to just
grab a small slice of the time?


Weird I was getting very long compile times for GCC and on using 'time' 
was

getting indications that make was only getting 25% of total system time.

I'll see if it is repeatable on another system.


As a follow-up question:  Why do you suppose we are punishing you by
not allowing Cygwin to use all of the CPU by default?

Oh.  Wait.  WJM.  Nevermind.


Weird reply, no need to take the micky !


You have apparently made an assumption that Cygwin is purposely using
only a part of the CPU.  What's weird about asking for your rationale
for why anyone would write a program which did such a thing, leaving it
to some undocumented procedure to get better performance?  Why do you
think we wouldn't just make this the default?

In other words: your assumptions don't make a lot of sense.

Here are some better assumptions:

1) Hey!  Maybe, since 'time' is a linux program, whatever is needed to get
it to work accurately isn't well-implemented in Cygwin, so you can't trust
its output.

2) Hey!  I just remembered that Cygwin is an emulation layer on top of
Windows.  That means that there is a lot more code being executed than
would be the case for MinGW!  Maybe *that's* why things are slower!


I'll take option 2, thank you :)

Aaron


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Re: Cygwin allocted time slice

2007-06-14 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Christopher Faylor (Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:45:12 -0400)
 On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 04:20:04PM +0100, Aaron Gray wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 04:15:40AM +0100, Aaron Gray wrote:
  Cygwin seems to only use a small amount of time slice relative to the
  ammount of time slice availiable.  Compiles, builds and testsuite are
  relly slow compared to MinGW which takes too much time.
 
  'time' results confirm this.  Process time is about 1/4 of the total
  system time.
 
  It i very noticable on compiling and testing GCC as compared to the
  same on Linux or MinGW.
 
  Is there any way to give Cygwin a bigger slice of the pie ?
 
  Say 50% or 75% ?
 
  How do you suppose Cygwin is managing this interesting feat of only
  using some of the CPU time?  What Windows API is Cygwin using to just
  grab a small slice of the time?
 
  Weird I was getting very long compile times for GCC and on using 'time' was 
  getting indications that make was only getting 25% of total system time.
 
  I'll see if it is repeatable on another system.
 
  As a follow-up question:  Why do you suppose we are punishing you by
  not allowing Cygwin to use all of the CPU by default?
 
  Oh.  Wait.  WJM.  Nevermind.
 
  Weird reply, no need to take the micky !
 
 You have apparently made an assumption that Cygwin is purposely using
 only a part of the CPU.  What's weird about asking for your rationale
 for why anyone would write a program which did such a thing, leaving it
 to some undocumented procedure to get better performance?  Why do you
 think we wouldn't just make this the default?

Aaron never said that Cygwin /purposely/, /actively/ uses only a 
small part of the CPU time.

Aaron's scenario is perfectly possible: by niceing (assigning a 
different priority in Windows terms) all Cygwin processes.

So there really is no need to mock Aaron.


Thorsten


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Re: Batch installation, possibly without setup.exe?

2007-06-14 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

David Kastrup wrote:

Hi,

if I want to install a version of Cygwin without user interaction
(optimally just dropping a bunch of files via unzip), is that
feasible?

In particular: does setup.exe fiddle with the registry or other files
that can't be just overwritten as a whole?

Obviously, one might want to have PATH adjusted, but apart from that?



Your only supported approach is to use 'setup.exe'.  See
http://www.math.grinnell.edu/~rebelsky/Courses/CS151/2007S/Readings/prepost.html
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Re: Batch installation, possibly without setup.exe?

2007-06-14 Thread fergus

 if I want to install a version of Cygwin without user
 interaction (optimally just dropping a bunch of files
 via unzip), is that feasible?

I do this frequently in order to have Cygwin on a USB stick. Building it 
there using setup would take 2 days (even though it's USB2.0). Copying 
an existing architecture to it takes less than an hour. It works 
perfectly, scores of times.


Build your preferred version on a host machine. Then Yes, as long as the 
zipped package that you are copying from host to target is capable of 
preserving the +R and +S attributes that will be attached to some of the 
individual files.


 In particular: does setup.exe fiddle with the registry
 or other files that can't be just overwritten as a whole?

Mainly (entirely?) setup sees to (a) location and (b) mounts. The first 
(a) is attended to by the fact that you are copying a completely 
specified architecture from host to target. However (b) you do need to 
remount your installation once it's in place. You could achieve this 
with a single once-only .bat command tacked on to the un-zipping process.


 Obviously, one might want to have PATH adjusted, but apart
 from that?

Why? If your PATH e.g.

/home/user/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/bin:/bin

(or whatever) works on the host, why would you want to change it on the 
target?


After it's done you might want to fiddle with mkpasswd or mkgroup for 
individual users on their individual machines, but it's my experience* 
that you wouldn't actually need to.


* What Works For Me might not, for You. And I might have misunderstood 
what you want.


Fergus



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Re: gcc with glib

2007-06-14 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin Ports)
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 Here is my command line:
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gcc -o TestGLib.o TestGLib.c `pkg-config --cflags --libs glib-2.0`

(And for your own sake, don't move around files; everything has it's
place, and for good reason.)


Yaakov
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Updated: cron-4.1-5

2007-06-14 Thread Pierre A. Humblet
I have updated cron to version 4.1-5

NEWS:
cron

Add support for the /etc/cron.d directory.
  (with thanks to Thomas Berger)

Please direct all comments and questions to the cygwin list, mentioning
cron in the Subject: line and ATTACHING the output of /usr/bin/cronbug.

Pierre

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