Setup and Mintty

2011-11-17 Thread Corinna Vinschen
Hi Andy, Hi others,


the latest setup sources implement the mintty desktop and start menu
shortcuts.  So, afaics, if you would just change the mintty package
so that it doesn't install its own shortcuts, we could update setup
on sourceware to the new version.  Is there anything else missing?


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[RFU] autossh-1.4c-1

2011-11-17 Thread Andrew Schulman
Please upload, including setup.hint which has changed.  Please remove version
1.4a-1, leaving 1.4b-1 as previous.  Thanks, Andrew.

wget \
 http://home.comcast.net/~andrex2/cygwin/autossh/setup.hint \
 http://home.comcast.net/~andrex2/cygwin/autossh/autossh-1.4c-1.tar.bz2 \
 http://home.comcast.net/~andrex2/cygwin/autossh/autossh-1.4c-1-src.tar.bz2


Re: [RFU] autossh-1.4c-1

2011-11-17 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Nov 17 12:22, Andrew Schulman wrote:
 Please upload, including setup.hint which has changed.  Please remove version
 1.4a-1, leaving 1.4b-1 as previous.  Thanks, Andrew.
 
 wget \
  http://home.comcast.net/~andrex2/cygwin/autossh/setup.hint \
  http://home.comcast.net/~andrex2/cygwin/autossh/autossh-1.4c-1.tar.bz2 \
  http://home.comcast.net/~andrex2/cygwin/autossh/autossh-1.4c-1-src.tar.bz2

Done.

Thanks,
Corinna

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[ITP] GNOME 3.2 dependencies

2011-11-17 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
In order to update the GNOME libraries currently in the distro, I need
to add the following packages:

dconf (for gtk3)
font-cantarell-otf (for gnome-themes-standard)
glib2.0-networking (for libsoup2.4)
gnome-doc-utils (for gnome-common)
gnome-themes-standard (replaces gnome-themes)
gsettings-desktop-schemas (for glib2.0)
gtk3 (parallel to gtk2.0)
itstool (for yelp-tools, below)
libcanberra (for libgnome2)
libdatrie (for libthai)
libthai (for pango1.0)
p11-kit (for gnome-keyring)
vala (build-time dependency of dconf)
yelp-tools (for gnome-common)
yelp-xsl (for yelp-tools)

All of these are in the latest releases of both Fedora and Ubuntu.
Therefore, I am treating these as pre-approved per this message[1] and
will proceed with the upload early next week.


Yaakov
Cygwin/X

[1] http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2011-11/msg00025.html


Re: Setup and Mintty

2011-11-17 Thread Andy Koppe
On 17 November 2011 17:17, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
 the latest setup sources implement the mintty desktop and start menu
 shortcuts.  So, afaics, if you would just change the mintty package
 so that it doesn't install its own shortcuts, we could update setup
 on sourceware to the new version.

A shortcut-less mintty package is here:

http://mintty.googlecode.com/files/mintty-1.0.1-2.tar.bz2
http://mintty.googlecode.com/files/mintty-1.0.1-2-src.tar.bz2
http://mintty.googlecode.com/svn/tags/1.0.1-2/cygport/setup.hint

As I'd mentioned before, I think the changeover needs to go like this:

1. Add Base category to mintty's setup.hint.
2. Wait a day for mirrors to catch up.
3. Upload new setup.exe.
4. Upload shortcut-less mintty package.

Without step 2, setup.exe might end up creating shortcuts to a
non-existent mintty.exe.

 Is there anything else missing?

I suspect the manual and FAQ need a few tweaks.

Andy


src/winsup/cygwin ChangeLog shared.cc

2011-11-17 Thread corinna
CVSROOT:/cvs/src
Module name:src
Changes by: cori...@sourceware.org  2011-11-17 22:08:14

Modified files:
winsup/cygwin  : ChangeLog shared.cc 

Log message:
* shared.cc (shared_info::create): Open global shared data section
non-inheritable to avoid accumulating stray handles in child processes.

Patches:
http://sourceware.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.5559r2=1.5560
http://sourceware.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/cygwin/shared.cc.diff?cvsroot=srcr1=1.149r2=1.150



Changed timestamp in setup-legacy.ini

2011-11-17 Thread Fergus

Why did the timestamp in setup-legacy.ini change sometime over the last 24H?
NEW setup-timestamp: 1321435813
OLD setup-timestamp: 1291702302
Lately this occurs only when setup.exe=setup-legacy.exe alters; but this 
has not happened (yet, anyway) and nor is there any change in the legacy 
provision.

(Oh no - hate odd-numbered timestamps.)
Fergus
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Re: Rolling back to 1.6.x Subversion

2011-11-17 Thread Andy Koppe
On 16 November 2011 23:06, Jim Garrison wrote:
 -Original Message-
 On Behalf Of Jeremy Bopp
 Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:18 AM
 Subject: Re: Rolling back to 1.6.x Subversion

 That whole process is going to be unsupported here though, so is there
 some reason you must remain on such an old release of subversion?

 Consider users who depend on clients (SVNKit) that don't
 yet have 1.7 native support (i.e. Subclipse).  We have to stay on
 1.6 until ALL our clients support 1.7 due to the working copy
 restructuring.

Can one use different svn clients on the same working copy, even if
they are the same version? I've always been wary of that due to fear
of subtle differences in working copy format. Character encoding and
line endings are two possible trouble spots that come to mind.

I've certainly seen problems with CVS: Windows CVS clients often
convert to Windows line endings on checkout, whereas Cygwin CVS
doesn't, so if you check out with one and then do a 'cvs diff' with
the other, it says that every line has changed.

Andy

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Re: Changed timestamp in setup-legacy.ini

2011-11-17 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Nov 17 08:46, Fergus wrote:
 Why did the timestamp in setup-legacy.ini change sometime over the last 24H?
 NEW setup-timestamp: 1321435813
 OLD setup-timestamp: 1291702302
 Lately this occurs only when setup.exe=setup-legacy.exe alters; but
 this has not happened (yet, anyway) and nor is there any change in
 the legacy provision.

My fault.  Instead of copying a file I moved it.  When I realized the
mistake, I copied it back.  That's why the timestamp changed.


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Re: filename with HASH

2011-11-17 Thread Dave Korn
On 17/11/2011 00:29, pen wrote:
 Few more tests: seems lynx dont like #
 
 $ mv test bay#, wwid test # abc
 $ lynx -dump test # abc
 
 Can't Access `file://localhost/cygdrive/e/test%20#%20abc'
 Alert!: Unable to access document.
 
 lynx: Can't access startfile
 
 $ mv  test # abc test# a
 $ lynx -dump test# a
 
 Looking up test
 Making HTTP connection to test
 Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host.  
 
 lynx: Can't access startfile http://test/#%20a

  A # marks a separator in a URL between the URI part and the anchor within
the page to load up the display at.  I think lynx is applying the same syntax
to local file URLs; for example, if you have a local file index.html, you
can append any arbitrary # anchor to it:

 $ wget 'http://www.bbc.co.uk/'
 --2011-11-17 09:47:02--  http://www.bbc.co.uk/
 Resolving www.bbc.co.uk (www.bbc.co.uk)... 212.58.246.94
 Connecting to www.bbc.co.uk (www.bbc.co.uk)|212.58.246.94|:80... connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
 Length: 135886 (133K) [text/html]
 Saving to: `index.html'
 
 100%[==] 135,886  446K/s   in 0.3s
 
 2011-11-17 09:47:03 (446 KB/s) - `index.html' saved [135886/135886]
 
 
 $ ls index*
 index.html
 
 $ lynx -dump index.html#foobar
 
#[1]A to Z [2]BBC Help [3]Terms of Use
 
[4]British Broadcasting Corporation BBC Home
   [ ... snip ... ]

  So I think it's a limitation of the URL format that it's ambiguous between a
filename with an actual # in it and a filename followed by # and an anchor,
and there's probably not much lynx can do about it.  Your best bet, if you
absolutely have to use lynx on files with hash signs in their names, would be
to use lynx's -stdin option and redirect the input from the file, so that lynx
doesn't ever see the filename at all:

 $ lynx -dump index.html # abc
 
 Can't Access `file://localhost/tmp/lynx/index.html%20#%20abc'
 Alert!: Unable to access document.
 
 lynx: Can't access startfile
 
 $ lynx -stdin -dump  index.html # abc
 
#[1]A to Z [2]BBC Help [3]Terms of Use
 
[4]British Broadcasting Corporation BBC Home
   [ ... snip ... ]


cheers,
  DaveK


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Re: filename with HASH

2011-11-17 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Nov 17 09:56, Dave Korn wrote:
 On 17/11/2011 00:29, pen wrote:
  Few more tests: seems lynx dont like #
  
  $ mv test bay#, wwid test # abc
  $ lynx -dump test # abc
  
  Can't Access `file://localhost/cygdrive/e/test%20#%20abc'
  Alert!: Unable to access document.
  
  lynx: Can't access startfile
  
  $ mv  test # abc test# a
  $ lynx -dump test# a
  
  Looking up test
  Making HTTP connection to test
  Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host.  
  
  lynx: Can't access startfile http://test/#%20a
 
   A # marks a separator in a URL between the URI part and the anchor within
 the page to load up the display at.  I think lynx is applying the same syntax
 to local file URLs; for example, if you have a local file index.html, you
 can append any arbitrary # anchor to it:

Apart from that, all non-graphical characters in an URL are converted to
the %xx syntax.  Therefore, the URL test # abc is converted to
file://[$PWD]/test%20#%20abc *before* trying to find the file.  So
lynx tries to access the file test%20#%20abc in the current directory,
which obviously doesn't exist.


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Re: Rolling back to 1.6.x Subversion

2011-11-17 Thread Csaba Raduly
On 11/17/11, Andy Koppe  wrote:
 Can one use different svn clients on the same working copy, even if
 they are the same version? I've always been wary of that due to fear
 of subtle differences in working copy format. Character encoding and
 line endings are two possible trouble spots that come to mind.

I regularly use Cygwin's SVN and Subclipse in a Windows version of
Eclipse and never had any problems. I had to postpone upgrading to the
Subversion 1.7 Cygwin package until Subclipse 1.8 came out, which
supports the 1.7 working copy format.

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Re: Problems with updating nearly any package meant for Cygwin or using packages such as libtool

2011-11-17 Thread viper_88

If only compiling and installing Hydra in real life was so easy, I wouldn't
be writing about things that don't work. First things first, though...
Let me tell you, from begining to end, what I have got through first to end
up with having problems using and/or updating libtool as said in the very
title.
When I want to compile Hydra, I get this:
Hubert@Hubert-PC ~
$ cd Hydra

Hubert@Hubert-PC ~/Hydra
$ ./configure

Starting hydra auto configuration ...

Checking for openssl (libssl, libcrypto, ssl.h, sha.h) ...
   ... found
Checking for idn (libidn.so) ...
 ... NOT found, unicode logins and passwords
will no
t be supported
Checking for pcre (libpcre.so, pcre.h) ...
   ... NOT found, server response checks
wil
l be less reliable
Checking for Postgres (libpq.so, libpq-fe.h) ...
 ... NOT found, module postgres
disa
bled
Checking for SVN (libsvn_client-1 libapr-1.so libaprutil-1.so) ...
   ... NOT
found, mo
dule svn disabled
Checking for firebird (libfbclient.so) ...
   ... NOT found, module firebird
disabled
Checking for MYSQL client (libmysqlclient.so, math.h) ...
  ... NOT found, module
Mysq
l will not support version  4.x
Checking for AFP (libafpclient.so) ...
   ... NOT found, module Apple Filing
Protocol d
isabled - Apple sucks anyway
Checking for NCP (libncp.so / nwcalls.h) ...
 ... NOT found, module NCP disabled
Checking for SAP/R3 (librfc/saprfc.h) ...
  ... NOT found, module sapr3 disabled
Get it from http://www.sap.com/solutions/netweaver/linux/eval/index.asp
Checking for libssh (libssh/libssh.h) ...
  ... NOT found, module ssh disabled
Get it from http://www.libssh.org
Checking for Oracle (libocci.so libclntsh.so / oci.h) ...
  ... NOT found, module
Orac
le disabled
Checking for GUI req's (pkg-config, gtk+-2.0) ...
  ... found

Hydra will be installed into .../bin of: /usr/local
  (change this by running ./configure --prefix=path)

Writing Makefile.in ...

Cygwin detected, if compilation fails just update your installation.

Windres found, will attach icons to hydra cygwin executables

now type make

Hubert@Hubert-PC ~/Hydra
$

As you can easily see, most of the stuff is missing. It's a bit odd, though,
since when I look for, say, pcre (which I definitely had installed), I get
this:

Hubert@Hubert-PC ~
$ apt-cyg find pcre
Working directory is /setup
Mirror is ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/cygwin
--2011-11-16 22:31:12--  ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/cygwin/setup.bz2
   = `.listing'
Resolving mirror.mcs.anl.gov (mirror.mcs.anl.gov)... 146.137.96.7,
146.137.96.15
, 2620:0:dc0:1800:214:4fff:fe7d:1b9
Connecting to mirror.mcs.anl.gov (mirror.mcs.anl.gov)|146.137.96.7|:21...
connec
ted.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
== SYST ... done.== PWD ... done.
== TYPE I ... done.  == CWD (1) /pub/cygwin ... done.
== PASV ... done.== LIST ... done.

[ =   ] 1,043   --.-K/s   in 0s

2011-11-16 22:31:14 (4.76 MB/s) - `.listing' saved [1043]

Removed `.listing'.
--2011-11-16 22:31:14--  ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/cygwin/setup.bz2
   = `setup.bz2'
== CWD not required.
== PASV ... done.== RETR setup.bz2 ... done.
Length: 276018 (270K)

100%[==] 276,018  169K/s   in 1.6s

2011-11-16 22:31:16 (169 KB/s) - `setup.bz2' saved [276018]

Updated setup.ini

Searching for installed packages matching pcre:
libpcre-devel
libpcre0
libpcrecpp-devel
libpcrecpp0
pcre

Searching for installable packages matching pcre:
libpcre-devel
libpcre0
libpcrecpp-devel
libpcrecpp0
pcre
pcre-devel

Hubert@Hubert-PC ~
$

pcre is installed already, so I have no idea why Cygwin says it is not (I
also thought I had postgres, but instead I found postgresql which seems not
to be what's needed). Generally speaking, most of the packages is missing,
so the compiled Hydra would lack many of its capabilities (and that I don't
want). The reason for which I started looking around was to gather
everything and make everything work. So that is one thing. The other one is
that when I wanted to update libstdc++, in order to later work with GCC, I
got this:

error: Failed dependencies:
/sbin/ldconfig is needed by compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-55.fc5
libc.so.6 is needed by compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-55.fc5
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-55.fc5
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-55.fc5
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) is needed by 

Re: Problems with updating nearly any package meant for Cygwin or using packages such as libtool

2011-11-17 Thread marco atzeri

On 11/17/2011 1:15 PM, viper_88 wrote:


If only compiling and installing Hydra in real life was so easy, I wouldn't
be writing about things that don't work. First things first, though...
Let me tell you, from begining to end, what I have got through first to end
up with having problems using and/or updating libtool as said in the very
title.
When I want to compile Hydra, I get this:
Hubert@Hubert-PC ~
$ cd Hydra

Hubert@Hubert-PC ~/Hydra
$ ./configure

Starting hydra auto configuration ...

Checking for openssl (libssl, libcrypto, ssl.h, sha.h) ...
... found
Checking for idn (libidn.so) ...
  ... NOT found, unicode logins and passwords
will no
t be supported
Checking for pcre (libpcre.so, pcre.h) ...
... NOT found, server response checks
wil
l be less reliable
Checking for Postgres (libpq.so, libpq-fe.h) ...
  ... NOT found, module postgres
disa
bled
Checking for SVN (libsvn_client-1 libapr-1.so libaprutil-1.so) ...
... NOT
found, mo
dule svn disabled
Checking for firebird (libfbclient.so) ...
... NOT found, module firebird
disabled
Checking for MYSQL client (libmysqlclient.so, math.h) ...
   ... NOT found, module
Mysq
l will not support version  4.x
Checking for AFP (libafpclient.so) ...
... NOT found, module Apple Filing
Protocol d
isabled - Apple sucks anyway
Checking for NCP (libncp.so / nwcalls.h) ...
  ... NOT found, module NCP disabled
Checking for SAP/R3 (librfc/saprfc.h) ...
   ... NOT found, module sapr3 disabled
Get it from http://www.sap.com/solutions/netweaver/linux/eval/index.asp
Checking for libssh (libssh/libssh.h) ...
   ... NOT found, module ssh disabled
Get it from http://www.libssh.org
Checking for Oracle (libocci.so libclntsh.so / oci.h) ...
   ... NOT found, module
Orac
le disabled
Checking for GUI req's (pkg-config, gtk+-2.0) ...
   ... found

Hydra will be installed into .../bin of: /usr/local
   (change this by running ./configure --prefix=path)

Writing Makefile.in ...

Cygwin detected, if compilation fails just update your installation.

Windres found, will attach icons to hydra cygwin executables

now type make

Hubert@Hubert-PC ~/Hydra
$

As you can easily see, most of the stuff is missing. It's a bit odd, though,
since when I look for, say, pcre (which I definitely had installed), I get
this:

Hubert@Hubert-PC ~
$ apt-cyg find pcre
Working directory is /setup
Mirror is ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/cygwin
--2011-11-16 22:31:12--  ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/cygwin/setup.bz2
=  `.listing'
Resolving mirror.mcs.anl.gov (mirror.mcs.anl.gov)... 146.137.96.7,
146.137.96.15
, 2620:0:dc0:1800:214:4fff:fe7d:1b9
Connecting to mirror.mcs.anl.gov (mirror.mcs.anl.gov)|146.137.96.7|:21...
connec
ted.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==  SYST ... done.==  PWD ... done.
==  TYPE I ... done.  ==  CWD (1) /pub/cygwin ... done.
==  PASV ... done.==  LIST ... done.

 [=] 1,043   --.-K/s   in 0s

2011-11-16 22:31:14 (4.76 MB/s) - `.listing' saved [1043]

Removed `.listing'.
--2011-11-16 22:31:14--  ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/cygwin/setup.bz2
=  `setup.bz2'
==  CWD not required.
==  PASV ... done.==  RETR setup.bz2 ... done.
Length: 276018 (270K)

100%[==] 276,018  169K/s   in 1.6s

2011-11-16 22:31:16 (169 KB/s) - `setup.bz2' saved [276018]

Updated setup.ini

Searching for installed packages matching pcre:
libpcre-devel
libpcre0
libpcrecpp-devel
libpcrecpp0
pcre

Searching for installable packages matching pcre:
libpcre-devel
libpcre0
libpcrecpp-devel
libpcrecpp0
pcre
pcre-devel

Hubert@Hubert-PC ~
$

pcre is installed already, so I have no idea why Cygwin says it is not (I
also thought I had postgres, but instead I found postgresql which seems not
to be what's needed). Generally speaking, most of the packages is missing,
so the compiled Hydra would lack many of its capabilities (and that I don't
want). The reason for which I started looking around was to gather
everything and make everything work. So that is one thing. The other one is
that when I wanted to update libstdc++, in order to later work with GCC, I
got this:


Dear Hubert,
the problem is that the configure scripts incorrectly looks for
libpcre.so that on cygwin is called differently:

/usr/bin/cygpcre-0.dll

so you need to modify the configure accordingly or
remove the test and leave only the check for pcre.h

same for libidn 

Re: filename with HASH

2011-11-17 Thread pen

Thanks Dave. 
That was fantastic!!! Now my scripts will become much lighter.
=)


Dave Korn-9 wrote:
 
 On 17/11/2011 00:29, pen wrote:
 Few more tests: seems lynx dont like #
 
 $ lynx -dump index.html # abc
 
 Can't Access `file://localhost/tmp/lynx/index.html%20#%20abc'
 Alert!: Unable to access document.
 
 lynx: Can't access startfile
 
 $ lynx -stdin -dump  index.html # abc
 
#[1]A to Z [2]BBC Help [3]Terms of Use
 
[4]British Broadcasting Corporation BBC Home
[ ... snip ... ]
 
 cheers,
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Re: Rolling back to 1.6.x Subversion

2011-11-17 Thread Jeremy Bopp
On 11/17/2011 01:39, Andrey Repin wrote:
 Greetings, Jeremy Bopp!
 
 All I really wanted to know was why it was important to hang back from the
 latest available version when getting the older one was less than trivial.
 Not using anything more than the command line for svn (infrequently at that)
 made me forget how often that project changes formats in the working copies
 and the ramifications of that behavior.
 
 On my memory, it wasn't changed even once in four years. Or all changes were
 transparent.
 The main problem with 1.7 I see myself, I described earlier: No way to tell at
 a glance, if the directory you're working with is versioned or not.

I want to think that they only change the working copy format when the
minor version changes, but I also think that they have done that with
every minor version transition since at least 1.4.  I know I remember
seeing the client request to upgrade my working copies at least once
before anyway.  Whether or not that upgrade was required, I can't say.

Regardless of the time period between minor version bumps, that rate of
change in working copies seems excessive to me given the relative
stability of other SCM tools, but that's just my likely ignorant
opinion. ;-)

Maybe like you say, the other transitions allowed for some backward
compatible support.  It's odd then that they wouldn't allow for that in
the 1.7 client.  I would expect the 1.7 client to at least support
*using* existing version 1.6 working copies in order to avoid exactly
this sort of interoperability issue, but it sounds like it does not.
That's very unfortunate if true.

If true, maybe it would make sense to allow for parallel installation of
svn versions that differ by minor number and use the alternatives system
to allow the user to select a particular one if they decided to install
both.  In other words, it would be handy to offer something like
subversion16 and subversion17 packages as well as an alias package named
just subversion that would pull in the latest version.  That's probably
more work than it's worth though given the number of sub-packages also
offered with subversion.

-Jeremy

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Re: Rolling back to 1.6.x Subversion

2011-11-17 Thread Jon Clugston
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Jeremy Bopp jer...@bopp.net wrote:
 On 11/17/2011 01:39, Andrey Repin wrote:
 Greetings, Jeremy Bopp!

 All I really wanted to know was why it was important to hang back from the
 latest available version when getting the older one was less than trivial.
 Not using anything more than the command line for svn (infrequently at that)
 made me forget how often that project changes formats in the working copies
 and the ramifications of that behavior.

 On my memory, it wasn't changed even once in four years. Or all changes were
 transparent.
 The main problem with 1.7 I see myself, I described earlier: No way to tell 
 at
 a glance, if the directory you're working with is versioned or not.

 I want to think that they only change the working copy format when the
 minor version changes, but I also think that they have done that with
 every minor version transition since at least 1.4.  I know I remember
 seeing the client request to upgrade my working copies at least once
 before anyway.  Whether or not that upgrade was required, I can't say.

This is all explained quite clearly in the documentation on the
Subversion web site.  Each minor release is allowed to change the
working copy format in a non-compatible way (the lower numbered
clients can't safely use it).  This simplifies the development of
Subversion but causes a (to me at least) very minor annoyance that all
clients that will use the same working copy must be at the same minor
release.  This, however, doesn't stop anyone else who writes
Subversion clients from transparently supporting multiple client
versions simultaneously (and dealing with the complexity that
creates).


 Regardless of the time period between minor version bumps, that rate of
 change in working copies seems excessive to me given the relative
 stability of other SCM tools, but that's just my likely ignorant
 opinion. ;-)

 Maybe like you say, the other transitions allowed for some backward
 compatible support.  It's odd then that they wouldn't allow for that in
 the 1.7 client.  I would expect the 1.7 client to at least support
 *using* existing version 1.6 working copies in order to avoid exactly
 this sort of interoperability issue, but it sounds like it does not.
 That's very unfortunate if true.

 If true, maybe it would make sense to allow for parallel installation of
 svn versions that differ by minor number and use the alternatives system
 to allow the user to select a particular one if they decided to install
 both.  In other words, it would be handy to offer something like
 subversion16 and subversion17 packages as well as an alias package named
 just subversion that would pull in the latest version.  That's probably
 more work than it's worth though given the number of sub-packages also
 offered with subversion.

 -Jeremy

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Re: Rolling back to 1.6.x Subversion

2011-11-17 Thread Jeremy Bopp
On 11/17/2011 05:12, Csaba Raduly wrote:
 On 11/17/11, Andy Koppe  wrote:
 Can one use different svn clients on the same working copy, even if
 they are the same version? I've always been wary of that due to fear
 of subtle differences in working copy format. Character encoding and
 line endings are two possible trouble spots that come to mind.
 
 I regularly use Cygwin's SVN and Subclipse in a Windows version of
 Eclipse and never had any problems. I had to postpone upgrading to the
 Subversion 1.7 Cygwin package until Subclipse 1.8 came out, which
 supports the 1.7 working copy format.

One of the really smart things that the SVN project has done is insulate
the working copy from most of the horrors of line ending differences.
The administrative files appear to either have a strict line ending
definition for all platforms or (more likely) clients are expected to be
flexible regarding line ending handling within the files.  The use of
the svn:eol-style property on source files allows for a great deal of
flexibility regarding management of line endings within the working copy.

Ultimately, any problems boil down to the text editors in use and not
the various SVN clients.  As far as I can see, only the combination of
setting svn:eol-style to native and using a crummy text editor could
expose unexpected problems when mixing Cygwin and Windows SVN clients
within a single working copy.  Those problems would really only be in
the text editor and not SVN however since the text editor could receive
a file with unsupported line endings if the Cygwin client checked the
file out.  Either SVN client would do the right thing with the file upon
commit regardless of the line endings it ended up having after editing.

There can't be very many users out there mixing both Cygwin and Windows
SVN clients with a text editor that completely chokes on Unix line
endings. :-)  I've been really impressed with how gracefully SVN handles
this whole line ending issue.

-Jeremy

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Re: Rolling back to 1.6.x Subversion

2011-11-17 Thread Jeremy Bopp
On 11/17/2011 10:09, Jon Clugston wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Jeremy Bopp jer...@bopp.net wrote:
 I want to think that they only change the working copy format when the
 minor version changes, but I also think that they have done that with
 every minor version transition since at least 1.4.  I know I remember
 seeing the client request to upgrade my working copies at least once
 before anyway.  Whether or not that upgrade was required, I can't say.
 
 This is all explained quite clearly in the documentation on the
 Subversion web site.  Each minor release is allowed to change the
 working copy format in a non-compatible way (the lower numbered
 clients can't safely use it).  This simplifies the development of
 Subversion but causes a (to me at least) very minor annoyance that all
 clients that will use the same working copy must be at the same minor
 release.  This, however, doesn't stop anyone else who writes
 Subversion clients from transparently supporting multiple client
 versions simultaneously (and dealing with the complexity that
 creates).

Thank you for confirming my memory regarding these format changes.
Still, while it makes sense for the project to make backward
incompatible changes at times, it still seems odd that the new clients
wouldn't support using the working copies from at least 1 minor version
back in order to ease interoperability between SVN client implementations.

I could see that the new clients wouldn't *create* older version working
copies in order to encourage adoption of the changes, but it wouldn't
seem too hard on the face of it to keep around a compatibility layer
from the last minor version in order to *use* an older working copy.
It's the maintainers' decision how they build their project, of course.
 I just find this aspect surprising.

-Jeremy

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Re: Problems with updating nearly any package meant for Cygwin or using packages such as libtool

2011-11-17 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, viper_88!

 As you can easily see, most of the stuff is missing. It's a bit odd, though,
 since when I look for, say, pcre (which I definitely had installed), I get
 this:

 Searching for installed packages matching pcre:
 libpcre-devel
 libpcre0
 libpcrecpp-devel
 libpcrecpp0
 pcre

 Searching for installable packages matching pcre:
 libpcre-devel
 libpcre0
 libpcrecpp-devel
 libpcrecpp0
 pcre
 pcre-devel

 Hubert@Hubert-PC ~
 $

 pcre is installed already,

I think you need pcre-devel if you're looking to compile stuff that depends on
it...


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Re: Rolling back to 1.6.x Subversion

2011-11-17 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Andy Koppe!

 Can one use different svn clients on the same working copy, even if
 they are the same version?

You can even use them (literally) simultaneously. Subversion introduced an
appropriate locking mechanics to ensure as much as possible that all
transactions are atomic.
But, as you pointed out, they all must be of the same version.

 I've always been wary of that due to fear
 of subtle differences in working copy format.

Working copy format is dictated by the Subversion client layer 
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.7/svn.developer.layerlib.html#svn.developer.layerlib.client
not by a program or moon phase.

 Character encoding and line endings are two possible trouble spots that come
 to mind. 

Subversion on inside using UTF-8. But this could be a problem when dealing
with files outside Subversion.

 I've certainly seen problems with CVS: Windows CVS clients often
 convert to Windows line endings on checkout, whereas Cygwin CVS
 doesn't, so if you check out with one and then do a 'cvs diff' with
 the other, it says that every line has changed.

This could only happen, if you intentionally set svn:eol-style to native.
Otherwise, it will preserve line endings, or even convert them to the desired
format upon submission.


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Re: Rolling back to 1.6.x Subversion

2011-11-17 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Jeremy Bopp!

 Thank you for confirming my memory regarding these format changes.
 Still, while it makes sense for the project to make backward
 incompatible changes at times, it still seems odd that the new clients
 wouldn't support using the working copies from at least 1 minor version
 back in order to ease interoperability between SVN client implementations.

Unfortunatelly, changes in WC format for 1.7 was QUITE drastic...
As said, you can find more info on http://subversion.apache.org/
This is the wrong mailing list to discuss them.

 I could see that the new clients wouldn't *create* older version working
 copies in order to encourage adoption of the changes, but it wouldn't
 seem too hard on the face of it to keep around a compatibility layer
 from the last minor version in order to *use* an older working copy.
 It's the maintainers' decision how they build their project, of course.
  I just find this aspect surprising.


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Re: Rolling back to 1.6.x Subversion

2011-11-17 Thread Warren Young

On 11/16/2011 3:20 PM, Andrey Repin wrote:


it's a release you need to migrate your working copies
to 1.17 without checking them out anew.


Are you sure?

After I got svn 1.7 via setup.exe, svn commands began failing in 
preexisting checkout directories, telling me I needed to svn upgrade 
them.  Running that command fixed the symptom.


Does this not work for you, or is this what you mean by checking them 
out anew?



Or if you want to tell at a glance, if a directory you're working with is a
versioned one... which is not possible for 1.17 :/


$ ls -d .svn

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Re: Problems with updating nearly any package meant for Cygwin or using packages such as libtool

2011-11-17 Thread Dave Korn
On 17/11/2011 13:00, marco atzeri wrote:

 the problem is that the configure scripts incorrectly looks for
 libpcre.so that on cygwin is called differently:
 
 /usr/bin/cygpcre-0.dll
 
 so you need to modify the configure accordingly or
 remove the test and leave only the check for pcre.h
 
 same for libidn /usr/bin/cygidn-11.dll
 
 libpq /usr/bin/cygpq.dll
 
 and so on.
 These are upstream bugs in configure, looking for the lib
 is wrong as different platforms have different conventions.
 They should only look for the header.

  Well, they could look for the lib too, as long as they used the correct
autoconf macro (AC_CHECK_LIB or AC_SEARCH_LIB) to do so.  Rather than try
searching in arbitrary and unknown places for unknown file names, that just
tries running a compile with the relevant -l flag and seeing if it succeeds -
which for the purposes of the build is more definitively accurate anyway.


cheers,
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Re: Problems with updating nearly any package meant for Cygwin or using packages such as libtool

2011-11-17 Thread Dave Korn
On 17/11/2011 20:33, Dave Korn wrote:
 On 17/11/2011 13:00, marco atzeri wrote:
 
 the problem is that the configure scripts incorrectly looks for
 libpcre.so that on cygwin is called differently:

 /usr/bin/cygpcre-0.dll

 so you need to modify the configure accordingly or
 remove the test and leave only the check for pcre.h

 same for libidn /usr/bin/cygidn-11.dll

 libpq /usr/bin/cygpq.dll

 and so on.
 These are upstream bugs in configure, looking for the lib
 is wrong as different platforms have different conventions.
 They should only look for the header.
 
   Well, they could look for the lib too, as long as they used the correct
 autoconf macro (AC_CHECK_LIB or AC_SEARCH_LIB) to do so.  


  Whoops, no they can't.  The hydra configure script isn't from autconf at
all; it's just hand-written.

  Well, at least it serves as an object lesson in why you shouldn't do that
(see also: reinventing the wheel, NIH syndrome).

cheers,
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Perl not completely downloading for cygwin

2011-11-17 Thread matt.pettis
Hi,

I am trying to download perl 5.10.1-5 for cygwin through setup.exe, but it 
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incomplete.  Try again?  I've tried a couple of different http repositories, 
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Re: Rolling back to 1.6.x Subversion

2011-11-17 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Warren Young!

 On 11/16/2011 3:20 PM, Andrey Repin wrote:

 it's a release you need to migrate your working copies
 to 1.17 without checking them out anew.

 Are you sure?

As far as I understand the release notes, you need to run svn cleanup with
earlier version, before running svn upgrade with current one.

 After I got svn 1.7 via setup.exe, svn commands began failing in 
 preexisting checkout directories, telling me I needed to svn upgrade 
 them.  Running that command fixed the symptom.

 Does this not work for you, or is this what you mean by checking them 
 out anew?

 Or if you want to tell at a glance, if a directory you're working with is a
 versioned one... which is not possible for 1.17 :/

 $ ls -d .svn

1.7 working copy do not have .svn dirs in nested directories.
http://subversion.apache.org/docs/release-notes/1.7.html#wc-ng


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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: multitail-5.2.8-1: View one or multiple files like tail but with multiple windows.

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Re: Rolling back to 1.6.x Subversion

2011-11-17 Thread Warren Young

On 11/17/2011 3:42 PM, Andrey Repin wrote:

On 11/16/2011 3:20 PM, Andrey Repin wrote:


it's a release you need to migrate your working copies
to 1.17 without checking them out anew.



Are you sure?


As far as I understand the release notes, you need to run svn cleanup with
earlier version, before running svn upgrade with current one.


I've done three successful tree upgrades with just an svn upgrade.

Perhaps the cleanup is only needed in uncommon cases?


$ ls -d .svn


1.7 working copy do not have .svn dirs in nested directories.
http://subversion.apache.org/docs/release-notes/1.7.html#wc-ng


Sorry, I remembered that too late.

How about svn st -q .?

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Updated: {gd/libgd2/libgd-devel}-2.0.36RC1-12: An open source code library for the dynamic creation of images.

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  o Build for cygwin 1.7.9 with gcc-4.5.3
  o Linked against libjpeg8 and libpng14



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Updated: {gnutls/libgnutls26/libgnutls-devel}-2.12.14-1: Library implementing TLS 1.0 and SSL 3.0 protocols

2011-11-17 Thread dr . volker . zell
Hi

New versions of 'gnutls/libgnutls26/libgnutls-devel' have been uploaded to a 
server near you.

 o Update to latest upstream version


gnutls NEWS:
===

Version 2.12.14 (released 2011-11-08)

** libgnutls: Corrected fix in gnutls_session_get_data()
to report the actual session size when the provided buffer
is not enough.

** API and ABI modifications:
No changes since last version.


Version 2.12.13 (released 2011-11-07)

** minitasn1: Upgraded to libtasn1 version 2.10.

** libgnutls: Fixed possible buffer overflow in
gnutls_session_get_data(). Reported and fix by Alban Crequy.

** API and ABI modifications:
No changes since last version.


Version 2.12.12 (released 2011-10-20)

** gnulib: updated

** libgnutls: Fixes to enable external signing callback to
operate with TLS 1.2.

** API and ABI modifications:
No changes since last version.


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Updated: gnubg-0.90.0-3: A backgammon player and analysis tool.

2011-11-17 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
Hi

A new version of 'gnubg' has been uploaded to a server near you.

 o Update to latest nightly build
 o Build for cygwin 1.7.9 with gcc-4.5.3


gnubg NEWS:
===

 o  There's no official NEWS file so you have to read the ChangeLog file


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Updated: {libidn/libidn11/libidn-devel}-1.22-1: International Domain Name library

2011-11-17 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
Hi

New versions of 'libidn/libidn11/libidn-devel' have been uploaded to a server 
near you.

 o Update to latest upstream release
 o Build for cygwin 1.7.1 with gcc-4


libidn NEWS:
===

* Version 1.22 (released 2011-05-04) [stable]

** libidn: Add -liconv as static library requirement in libidn.pc, for MinGW.
Reported by Volker Grabsch v...@notjusthosting.com.

** libidn: Fix memory leak in idna_to_ascii_4z when idna_to_ascii_4i fails.
Reported by and tiny patch from Olga Limburg olimb...@gmail.com.

** libidn: Ran clang-analyze on the code.
Fixed some dead assignments/initializations.

** build: Really distribute win32/libidn4win.mk.

** API and ABI is backwards compatible with the previous version.

* Version 1.21 (released 2011-04-24) [stable]

** build/gettext: Demand gettext = 0.18.1 in order to get newer M4 files.
The old M4 files associated with 0.17 caused problems on Solaris,
hopefully now fixed.  Reported by Dagobert Michelsen d...@opencsw.org
in http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.gnulib.bugs/25522.

** build: Improve MinGW cross-compile makefile, see win32/libidn4win.mk.

** build: Visual Studio files fixed to define LIBIDN_BUILDING.
Tiny patch from Waqas Hussain waqa...@gmail.com.

** API and ABI is backwards compatible with the previous version.

* Version 1.20 (released 2011-03-01) [stable]

** libidn: Fix bug in ToUnicode to compare 'xn--' case-insensitively.
The problem is typically noticed when an upper ACE case string is
converted to Unicode.  Before, this would return the input rather than
converting the ACE form to Unicode.  Reported by Stepan Golosunov
ste...@golosunov.pp.ru in http://bugs.debian.org/610617.

** tests: Added self-test tst_idna3 to catch any regression of problem above.

** idn: Only print copyright and license blurb when used interactively.
Reported by Andrew O. Shadoura bugzi...@tut.by and Roman Mamedov
r...@romanrm.ru in http://bugs.debian.org/615947 and
http://bugs.debian.org/615949 respectively.

** Update gnulib files and translations.

** API and ABI is backwards compatible with the previous version.

* Version 1.19 (released 2010-05-22) [stable]

** doc: Typo fixes.  Added PDF version of API reference manual.
See doc/reference/libidn.pdf.

** build: Update gnulib files.

** build: Use valgrind -q to reduce verbosity.

** API and ABI is backwards compatible with the previous version.


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Updated: {liblzo2/liblzo2_2/liblzo2-devel}-2.06-1: A data compression library which is suitable for data de-/compression in real-time

2011-11-17 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
Hi

New versions of 'liblzo2/liblzo2_2/liblzo2-devel' have been uploaded to a 
server near you.

 o Updated to latest upstream release
 o Rebuild for cygwin 1.7.9 with gcc-4.5.3


liblzo2 NEWS:
===

Changes in 2.06 (12 Aug 2011)
  * Some minor optimizations for big-endian architectures.
  * Fixed overly strict malloc() misalignment check in examples.

Changes in 2.05 (23 Apr 2011)
  * Converted the configure system to non-recursive Automake.
  * Applied some overdue speed optimizations for modern x86/x64 architectures
and current compilers like gcc 4.6 and MSVC 2010.

Changes in 2.04 (31 Oct 2010)
  * Fixed a gcc-4.5 aliasing issue in lzo_init().
  * Updated the configure system.
  * Assorted cleanups.


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Updated: multitail-5.2.8-1: View one or multiple files like tail but with multiple windows.

2011-11-17 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
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A new version of 'multitail' has been uploaded to a server near you.

 o Updated to latest upstream release
 o Build for cygwin 1.7.9 with gcc-4.5.3


multitail NEWS:
===

 o No NEWS available


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