Re: [RFU] subversion-1.8.0-1

2013-06-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
Hi David,

On Jun 19 18:07, David Rothenberger wrote:
 Please upload subversion-1.8.0-1 as the new current release. Please
 delete 1.6.17-1 and leave 1.7.10-1 as prev.
 
 Thanks!
 
 D=http://home.comcast.net/~david.rothenberger/cygwin
 wget -x -nH --cut-dirs=2 \
   ${D}subversion/setup.hint \
   ${D}subversion/subversion-1.8.0-1-src.tar.bz2 \
   ${D}subversion/subversion-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
   ${D}subversion/subversion-apache2/setup.hint \
   ${D}subversion/subversion-apache2/subversion-apache2-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
   ${D}subversion/subversion-debuginfo/setup.hint \
   ${D}subversion/subversion-debuginfo/subversion-debuginfo-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
   ${D}subversion/subversion-devel/setup.hint \
   ${D}subversion/subversion-devel/subversion-devel-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
   ${D}subversion/subversion-gnome/setup.hint \
   ${D}subversion/subversion-gnome/subversion-gnome-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
   ${D}subversion/subversion-perl/setup.hint \
   ${D}subversion/subversion-perl/subversion-perl-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
   ${D}subversion/subversion-python/setup.hint \
   ${D}subversion/subversion-python/subversion-python-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
   ${D}subversion/subversion-ruby/setup.hint \
   ${D}subversion/subversion-ruby/subversion-ruby-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
   ${D}subversion/subversion-tools/setup.hint \
   ${D}subversion/subversion-tools/subversion-tools-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2

I'm getting a 404 error in both cases, 32 and 64 bit.


Corinna

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noarch packages

2013-06-20 Thread Ken Brown
TeX Live 2013 has been officially released, and I'll be sending an RFU 
soon for the 32bit distro.  The packages are already in the 64bit distro.


The vast majority of the texlive-collection-* packages are noarch 
packages.  Should I still send the standard RFU, or is it easier for the 
uploader to copy the files from the 64bit release area?


Ken


Re: [RFC] libexecdir

2013-06-20 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:20:51AM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
Conflicts like this will happen.  If we change libexec, we have to be
prepared for this kind of stuff.  Is it worth it?

I certainly have gone through this pain when the changeover was made
on Linux.  If we want to provide the real Linux look-and-feel I don't
think we have any choice.  :-)

But, seriously, I think that the change makes sense in the long run. If
we don't do this we'll eventually just have to be tweaking more and more
configurations to put things in /usr/libexec rather than /usr/lib.

On a similar note, what about Fedora (and others) fusion of /usr/bin  /bin
and /usr/sbin  /sbin?  Do we want to think about that too?  It would
certainly make sense for Cygwin.  We could get rid of /usr/bin entirely.

cgf


[RFU] stow

2013-06-20 Thread Andrew Schulman
Please upload.  Thanks, Andrew.

# 64-bit
wget -x -nH --cut-dirs=3 \
 http://home.comcast.net/~andrex2/cygwin64/stow/setup.hint \
 http://home.comcast.net/~andrex2/cygwin64/stow/stow-2.2.0-1.tar.bz2 \
 http://home.comcast.net/~andrex2/cygwin64/stow/stow-2.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2


[RFU] atool

2013-06-20 Thread Andrew Schulman
Please upload.  Thanks, Andrew.

# 64-bit
wget -x -nH --cut-dirs=3 \
 http://home.comcast.net/~andrex2/cygwin64/atool/setup.hint \
 http://home.comcast.net/~andrex2/cygwin64/atool/atool-0.39.0-1.tar.bz2 \
 http://home.comcast.net/~andrex2/cygwin64/atool/atool-0.39.0-1-src.tar.bz2


Re: [RFC] libexecdir

2013-06-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 20 10:19, Christopher Faylor wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:20:51AM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
 Conflicts like this will happen.  If we change libexec, we have to be
 prepared for this kind of stuff.  Is it worth it?
 
 I certainly have gone through this pain when the changeover was made
 on Linux.  If we want to provide the real Linux look-and-feel I don't
 think we have any choice.  :-)
 
 But, seriously, I think that the change makes sense in the long run. If
 we don't do this we'll eventually just have to be tweaking more and more
 configurations to put things in /usr/libexec rather than /usr/lib.

Yeah, probably.  Me and my lawn...

 On a similar note, what about Fedora (and others) fusion of /usr/bin  /bin
 and /usr/sbin  /sbin?  Do we want to think about that too?  It would
 certainly make sense for Cygwin.  We could get rid of /usr/bin entirely.

No, we can't.  Fedora has /usr/bin, /usr/lib and /usr/sbin, while the
/bin, /lib, and /sbin paths are just symlinks to their /usr counterparts.
This is necessary to maintain hardcode paths, and this will not go away
in Fedora for a long time.

For Cygwin we did this fusion anyway since version 1.1 or so, just as
mount points and in the other direction.  We were far ahead of time :)

Having said that, we could do the same for /sbin vs. /usr/sbin and
create an automatic mount point for it as well.


Corinna

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Re: [RFU] stow

2013-06-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 20 10:22, Andrew Schulman wrote:
 Please upload.  Thanks, Andrew.
 
 # 64-bit
 wget -x -nH --cut-dirs=3 \
  http://home.comcast.net/~andrex2/cygwin64/stow/setup.hint \
  http://home.comcast.net/~andrex2/cygwin64/stow/stow-2.2.0-1.tar.bz2 \
  http://home.comcast.net/~andrex2/cygwin64/stow/stow-2.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2

Thanks, uploaded.


Corinna

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Re: [RFU] atool

2013-06-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 20 10:23, Andrew Schulman wrote:
 Please upload.  Thanks, Andrew.
 
 # 64-bit
 wget -x -nH --cut-dirs=3 \
  http://home.comcast.net/~andrex2/cygwin64/atool/setup.hint \
  http://home.comcast.net/~andrex2/cygwin64/atool/atool-0.39.0-1.tar.bz2 \
  http://home.comcast.net/~andrex2/cygwin64/atool/atool-0.39.0-1-src.tar.bz2

Ditto. ;)


Thanks,
Corinna

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Re: [RFC] libexecdir

2013-06-20 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 05:10:57PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Jun 20 10:19, Christopher Faylor wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:20:51AM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
 Conflicts like this will happen.  If we change libexec, we have to be
 prepared for this kind of stuff.  Is it worth it?
 
 I certainly have gone through this pain when the changeover was made
 on Linux.  If we want to provide the real Linux look-and-feel I don't
 think we have any choice.  :-)
 
 But, seriously, I think that the change makes sense in the long run. If
 we don't do this we'll eventually just have to be tweaking more and more
 configurations to put things in /usr/libexec rather than /usr/lib.

Yeah, probably.  Me and my lawn...

I see you got what I meant even though I got the sense wrong.

 On a similar note, what about Fedora (and others) fusion of /usr/bin  /bin
 and /usr/sbin  /sbin?  Do we want to think about that too?  It would
 certainly make sense for Cygwin.  We could get rid of /usr/bin entirely.

No, we can't.  Fedora has /usr/bin, /usr/lib and /usr/sbin, while the
/bin, /lib, and /sbin paths are just symlinks to their /usr counterparts.
This is necessary to maintain hardcode paths, and this will not go away
in Fedora for a long time.

I guess I should have checked before sending the email but my point was
if we should be eschewing the use of whichever Fedora has gotten rid of.
You're right that /bin is a symlink.  So should cygport and others now
be forcing everything into /usr/whatever?

For Cygwin we did this fusion anyway since version 1.1 or so, just as
mount points and in the other direction.  We were far ahead of time :)

Having said that, we could do the same for /sbin vs. /usr/sbin and
create an automatic mount point for it as well.

Although I think they were my idea, I have never really liked the
automatic mount points.  Couldn't we just use a symlink?

cgf


Re: [RFC] libexecdir

2013-06-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 20 11:17, Christopher Faylor wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 05:10:57PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
 On Jun 20 10:19, Christopher Faylor wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:20:51AM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
  Conflicts like this will happen.  If we change libexec, we have to be
  prepared for this kind of stuff.  Is it worth it?
  
  I certainly have gone through this pain when the changeover was made
  on Linux.  If we want to provide the real Linux look-and-feel I don't
  think we have any choice.  :-)
  
  But, seriously, I think that the change makes sense in the long run. If
  we don't do this we'll eventually just have to be tweaking more and more
  configurations to put things in /usr/libexec rather than /usr/lib.
 
 Yeah, probably.  Me and my lawn...
 
 I see you got what I meant even though I got the sense wrong.
 
  On a similar note, what about Fedora (and others) fusion of /usr/bin  
  /bin
  and /usr/sbin  /sbin?  Do we want to think about that too?  It would
  certainly make sense for Cygwin.  We could get rid of /usr/bin entirely.
 
 No, we can't.  Fedora has /usr/bin, /usr/lib and /usr/sbin, while the
 /bin, /lib, and /sbin paths are just symlinks to their /usr counterparts.
 This is necessary to maintain hardcode paths, and this will not go away
 in Fedora for a long time.
 
 I guess I should have checked before sending the email but my point was
 if we should be eschewing the use of whichever Fedora has gotten rid of.
 You're right that /bin is a symlink.  So should cygport and others now
 be forcing everything into /usr/whatever?

By default prefix is /usr anyway when building packages with cygport.  I
don't see a reason to disable packages from specifing /bin as installation
path.  After all, it's dumped into the same place anyway.

 For Cygwin we did this fusion anyway since version 1.1 or so, just as
 mount points and in the other direction.  We were far ahead of time :)
 
 Having said that, we could do the same for /sbin vs. /usr/sbin and
 create an automatic mount point for it as well.
 
 Although I think they were my idea, I have never really liked the
 automatic mount points.  Couldn't we just use a symlink?

I'm not really loving them either, but the original reason to have
/usr/bin and /usr/lib mount points rather than symlinks is performance.
That was already the case in pre-1.7 Cygwin when we had the automatic
generation of the /usr/bin and /usr/lib mount points in the registry.

Handling mount points is noticably faster than handling symlinks.
Symlinks require to read file content and since /usr/bin is first in
$PATH by default, you get lots and lots of open/read/close calls on the
/usr/bin symlink.  Even if the file is cached, it's probably still
slower than just fetching the mount point from the internal mount table.


Corinna

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Re: noarch packages

2013-06-20 Thread Ken Brown

On 6/20/2013 6:49 AM, Ken Brown wrote:

TeX Live 2013 has been officially released, and I'll be sending an RFU
soon for the 32bit distro.  The packages are already in the 64bit distro.

The vast majority of the texlive-collection-* packages are noarch
packages.  Should I still send the standard RFU, or is it easier for the
uploader to copy the files from the 64bit release area?


Never mind.  I'll just go ahead and send the RFU, but I'll separate out 
the noarch packages so that the uploader can do what he or she wants.


Ken


[RFU] TeX Live 2013

2013-06-20 Thread Ken Brown
I'm giving four separate wget commands below to make it clear what's happening:

The first is for noarch packages that are already in the 64bit distro; you can 
simply copy them from the 64bit release area instead of using wget if that's 
easier.

The second is for arch-dependent packages.

The third makes a bunch of packages obsolete, due to upstream reorganization.  
Please check one or two to make sure I've done it right.

And the fourth is to remove the obsolescent texlive-collection-texinfo from the 
dependencies of some already obsolete tetex packages (see 
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2013-05/msg00113.html).  
texlive-collection-texinfo should also be removed from the dependencies of lyx.

D=http://sanibeltranquility.com/cygwin/release/TeX
TL=texlive
TC=texlive-collection
TD=texlive-collection-documentation

noarch:

wget -x -nH --cut-dirs=2 \
  ${D}/${TC}-basic/${TC}-basic-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-basic/${TC}-basic-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-basic/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-basic-doc/${TC}-basic-doc-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-basic-doc/${TC}-basic-doc-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-basic-doc/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-bibtexextra-doc/${TC}-bibtexextra-doc-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-bibtexextra-doc/${TC}-bibtexextra-doc-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-bibtexextra-doc/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-binextra/${TC}-binextra-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-binextra/${TC}-binextra-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-binextra/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-binextra-doc/${TC}-binextra-doc-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-binextra-doc/${TC}-binextra-doc-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-binextra-doc/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-context/${TC}-context-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-context/${TC}-context-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-context/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-context-doc/${TC}-context-doc-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-context-doc/${TC}-context-doc-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-context-doc/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-fontsextra/${TC}-fontsextra-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-fontsextra/${TC}-fontsextra-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-fontsextra/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-fontsextra-doc/${TC}-fontsextra-doc-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-fontsextra-doc/${TC}-fontsextra-doc-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-fontsextra-doc/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-fontsrecommended/${TC}-fontsrecommended-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-fontsrecommended/${TC}-fontsrecommended-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-fontsrecommended/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-fontsrecommended-doc/${TC}-fontsrecommended-doc-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  
${D}/${TC}-fontsrecommended-doc/${TC}-fontsrecommended-doc-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-fontsrecommended-doc/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-fontutils/${TC}-fontutils-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-fontutils/${TC}-fontutils-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-fontutils/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-fontutils-doc/${TC}-fontutils-doc-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-fontutils-doc/${TC}-fontutils-doc-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-fontutils-doc/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-formatsextra/${TC}-formatsextra-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-formatsextra/${TC}-formatsextra-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-formatsextra/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-games/${TC}-games-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-games/${TC}-games-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-games/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-genericextra/${TC}-genericextra-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-genericextra/${TC}-genericextra-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-genericextra/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-genericextra-doc/${TC}-genericextra-doc-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-genericextra-doc/${TC}-genericextra-doc-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-genericextra-doc/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-genericrecommended/${TC}-genericrecommended-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-genericrecommended/${TC}-genericrecommended-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-genericrecommended/setup.hint\
  
${D}/${TC}-genericrecommended-doc/${TC}-genericrecommended-doc-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  
${D}/${TC}-genericrecommended-doc/${TC}-genericrecommended-doc-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-genericrecommended-doc/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-htmlxml/${TC}-htmlxml-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-htmlxml/${TC}-htmlxml-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-htmlxml/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-humanities/${TC}-humanities-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-humanities/${TC}-humanities-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-humanities/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-humanities-doc/${TC}-humanities-doc-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-humanities-doc/${TC}-humanities-doc-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-humanities-doc/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-langafrican/${TC}-langafrican-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-langafrican/${TC}-langafrican-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-langafrican/setup.hint\
  ${D}/${TC}-langarabic/${TC}-langarabic-20130529-1.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-langarabic/${TC}-langarabic-20130529-1-src.tar.bz2\
  ${D}/${TC}-langarabic/setup.hint\
  

Re: [RFU] subversion-1.8.0-1

2013-06-20 Thread David Rothenberger
Hi Corinna,

I think I was missing a slash in my emails.

Here's the 32-bit RFU again:

D=http://home.comcast.net/~david.rothenberger/cygwin
wget -x -nH --cut-dirs=2 \
  ${D}/subversion/setup.hint \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-1.8.0-1-src.tar.bz2 \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-apache2/setup.hint \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-apache2/subversion-apache2-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-debuginfo/setup.hint \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-debuginfo/subversion-debuginfo-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-devel/setup.hint \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-devel/subversion-devel-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-gnome/setup.hint \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-gnome/subversion-gnome-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-perl/setup.hint \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-perl/subversion-perl-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-python/setup.hint \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-python/subversion-python-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-ruby/setup.hint \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-ruby/subversion-ruby-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-tools/setup.hint \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-tools/subversion-tools-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2


And here's the 64-bit:

D=http://home.comcast.net/~david.rothenberger/cygwin64
wget -x -nH --cut-dirs=2 \
  ${D}/subversion/setup.hint \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-1.8.0-1-src.tar.bz2 \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-apache2/setup.hint \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-apache2/subversion-apache2-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-debuginfo/setup.hint \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-debuginfo/subversion-debuginfo-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-devel/setup.hint \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-devel/subversion-devel-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-gnome/setup.hint \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-gnome/subversion-gnome-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-perl/setup.hint \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-perl/subversion-perl-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-python/setup.hint \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-python/subversion-python-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-ruby/setup.hint \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-ruby/subversion-ruby-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2 \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-tools/setup.hint \
  ${D}/subversion/subversion-tools/subversion-tools-1.8.0-1.tar.bz2


Sorry about that!

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Re: [RFU] subversion-1.8.0-1

2013-06-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 20 09:39, David Rothenberger wrote:
 Hi Corinna,
 
 I think I was missing a slash in my emails.

Ah, I didn't realize that.  Thanks for the new links.  Uploaded
and 1.6.17-1 remove.


Thanks,
Corinna

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Re: [RFU] TeX Live 2013

2013-06-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 20 12:10, Ken Brown wrote:
 I'm giving four separate wget commands below to make it clear what's 
 happening:
 
 The first is for noarch packages that are already in the 64bit distro; you 
 can simply copy them from the 64bit release area instead of using wget if 
 that's easier.
 
 The second is for arch-dependent packages.
 
 The third makes a bunch of packages obsolete, due to upstream reorganization. 
  Please check one or two to make sure I've done it right.
 
 And the fourth is to remove the obsolescent texlive-collection-texinfo from 
 the dependencies of some already obsolete tetex packages (see 
 http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2013-05/msg00113.html).  
 texlive-collection-texinfo should also be removed from the dependencies of 
 lyx.

Gosh.  Ken, would you like to have upload privileges?  The list of
TexLive packages always give me a mild stroke.

If you fill out http://sourceware.org/cgi-bin/pdw/ps_form.cgi with me
as approver, you can upload your packages as you see fit (and maybe help
uploading other maintainer's packages once in a while...)


Thanks,
Corinna

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[64bit] Updated: subversion-1.8.0-1

2013-06-20 Thread David Rothenberger
NEWS:
=
See CHANGES (URL below) for more information about the differences
between 1.8.0 and previous Subversion releases.

IMPORTANT: Please read the release notes (URL below) before
upgrading from a previous major release. 1.8 includes a new working
copy format with a manual upgrade operation. This will render your
working copy unusable with previous major releases. Furthermore,
there are some issues trying to upgrade corrupt working copies.

Please see the release notes

  http://subversion.apache.org/docs/release-notes/1.8.html

for more details about the changes in Subversion.

See

  http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/tags/1.8.0/CHANGES

for more details about the changes in 1.8.0.

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Re: [RFU] TeX Live 2013

2013-06-20 Thread Ken Brown

On 6/20/2013 2:42 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

On Jun 20 12:10, Ken Brown wrote:

I'm giving four separate wget commands below to make it clear what's happening:

The first is for noarch packages that are already in the 64bit distro; you can 
simply copy them from the 64bit release area instead of using wget if that's 
easier.

The second is for arch-dependent packages.

The third makes a bunch of packages obsolete, due to upstream reorganization.  
Please check one or two to make sure I've done it right.

And the fourth is to remove the obsolescent texlive-collection-texinfo from the 
dependencies of some already obsolete tetex packages (see 
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2013-05/msg00113.html).  
texlive-collection-texinfo should also be removed from the dependencies of lyx.


Gosh.  Ken, would you like to have upload privileges?  The list of
TexLive packages always give me a mild stroke.

If you fill out http://sourceware.org/cgi-bin/pdw/ps_form.cgi with me
as approver, you can upload your packages as you see fit (and maybe help
uploading other maintainer's packages once in a while...)


OK, I'll do that.  What email address should I use for you?  The one in 
the Cygwin ChangeLogs?  And is there a document with guidelines for 
uploading packages?


Ken


Re: [RFU] TeX Live 2013

2013-06-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 20 15:07, Ken Brown wrote:
 On 6/20/2013 2:42 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
 On Jun 20 12:10, Ken Brown wrote:
 I'm giving four separate wget commands below to make it clear what's 
 happening:
 
 The first is for noarch packages that are already in the 64bit distro; you 
 can simply copy them from the 64bit release area instead of using wget if 
 that's easier.
 
 The second is for arch-dependent packages.
 
 The third makes a bunch of packages obsolete, due to upstream 
 reorganization.  Please check one or two to make sure I've done it right.
 
 And the fourth is to remove the obsolescent texlive-collection-texinfo from 
 the dependencies of some already obsolete tetex packages (see 
 http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2013-05/msg00113.html).  
 texlive-collection-texinfo should also be removed from the dependencies of 
 lyx.
 
 Gosh.  Ken, would you like to have upload privileges?  The list of
 TexLive packages always give me a mild stroke.
 
 If you fill out http://sourceware.org/cgi-bin/pdw/ps_form.cgi with me
 as approver, you can upload your packages as you see fit (and maybe help
 uploading other maintainer's packages once in a while...)
 
 OK, I'll do that.  What email address should I use for you?  The one
 in the Cygwin ChangeLogs? 

Yep.

 And is there a document with guidelines for uploading packages?

Not really.

The 32 bit release is in /sourceware/ftp/pub/cygwin/release,
the 64 bit in /sourceware/ftp/pub/cygwin/64bit/release.

Just upload your files to some subdir of your homedir and copy
the files over to where they belong.  The home dirs are on the
same drive, so a cp -rplf will do (albeit you get error messages
concerning the timestamps, nothing to worry about).  Other than
that, there's no upset yet running for the 64 bit release, so
you have to create the setup64.ini files manually.  You can
do that like this:

  $ cd /sourceware/ftp/pub/cygwin/64bit  ./GEN-sware

Feel free to ask any question until you feel comfortable.


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setup in cvs head by early june 2013 does not run on xp

2013-06-20 Thread d_hoke
setup built from cvs at -D20130228 WILL run on xp
setup built from cvs at -D20130331 will NOT run on xp  (likewise at HEAD early 
june 2013)
 
setup in cvs at -D20130331 will NOT run on xp because it has a static link to 
_vswprintf in ntdll.dll
_vswprintf is not an exported symbol in ntdll.dll in xp (sp3 nor sp2)

in -D20130228 version links to _vswprintf in msvcrt.dll
 
cvs log for Makefile.am indicate ntdll and wininet were added on mar 4, 2013 in 
revision 2.94
 
builds
 of both were done with a version of cygwin installed around june 3, 
2013, with a v2.774 setup.exe downloaded around that time.
 
cygwin install was done from mirrors.kernel.org onto a windows xp sp3 acer 
netbook
 
Is this a move toward not supporting cygwin on XP (W2K3 server) at all, or
 a mistake?  (I tried searching the cygwin-apps maillist archives, but 
did not spot any items appearing related to this.  The cvs log entry did
 not enlighten me as to why those two items were added then either, 
wasn't sure where else to research.)  Without checking, I'd guess 
windows server 2003 might also be missing that export.
 
Is it known that the prototype of the _vswprintf in ntdll.dll matches what is 
expected by the setup code (in iostream_cygfile and io_stream_file.cc)? 
 (search for hieroglyphics and see it and item after it in 
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=mingw-notifymax_rows=50style=nestedviewmonth=200903;)
 

Regards,
David Hoke

Re: setup in cvs head by early june 2013 does not run on xp

2013-06-20 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 09:04:26PM +, d_h...@hotmail.com wrote:
setup built from cvs at -D20130228 WILL run on xp
setup built from cvs at -D20130331 will NOT run on xp? (likewise at HEAD early 
june 2013)
 
setup in cvs at -D20130331 will NOT run on xp because it has a static link to 
_vswprintf in ntdll.dll
_vswprintf is not an exported symbol in ntdll.dll in xp (sp3 nor sp2)

in -D20130228 version links to _vswprintf in msvcrt.dll
 
cvs log for Makefile.am indicate ntdll and wininet were added on mar 4, 2013 
in revision 2.94
 
builds
 of both were done with a version of cygwin installed around june 3, 
2013, with a v2.774 setup.exe downloaded around that time.
 
cygwin install was done from mirrors.kernel.org onto a windows xp sp3 acer 
netbook
 
Is this a move toward not supporting cygwin on XP (W2K3 server) at all, or
 a mistake?? (I tried searching the cygwin-apps maillist archives, but 
did not spot any items appearing related to this.? The cvs log entry did
 not enlighten me as to why those two items were added then either, 
wasn't sure where else to research.)? Without checking, I'd guess 
windows server 2003 might also be missing that export.
 
Is it known that the prototype of the _vswprintf in ntdll.dll matches what is 
expected by the setup code (in iostream_cygfile and io_stream_file.cc)??
 (search for hieroglyphics and see it and item after it in 
 http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=mingw-notifymax_rows=50style=nestedviewmonth=200903;)

You need to build with the newest version of mingw from the mingw64-i686
package.  It seems like yours is out of date.  Corinna and I build with
the i686-w64-mingw32 target.


Re: cygwin and xwin and super and hyper

2013-06-20 Thread Jon TURNEY
On 19/06/2013 22:27, J. David Boyd wrote:
 I can get my capslock key to be super with the command line 'setxkbmap -option
 caps:super', but I can't get 'setxkbmap -option altwin:hyper_win' to do
 anything.
 
 Running 'setxkbmap -print' shows both options as being set, but the win keys
 still act as the win key.
 
 Is there something else I need to do so windows lets go of these keys?

Yes.

Again, let me refer you to [1].  The operative sentence is:

 (Note that mapping the Windows keys to hyper also requires the -keyhook
 option, so that the X server sees those keys before the Windows shell)

One thing I failed to mention there is that without any keymap options the
keymap should give you super on the windows keys, but you will still need
-keyhook X server option to enable the X server to see the key.

[1] http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2012-03/msg00427.html

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Re: Make error when compiling xserver-cygwin-1.14.1-1

2013-06-20 Thread Jon TURNEY
On 16/06/2013 15:25, Jon TURNEY wrote:
 On 16/06/2013 13:37, Matt D. wrote:
 /usr/src/xorg-server-1.14.1-1/src/xserver-cygwin-1.14.1-1/hw/xwin/glx/indirect.c:467:
  undefined reference to `_wglSwapIntervalEXTWrapper'
 
 These undefined references are a bit mysterious. These wgl*Wrapper functions
 should by defined in the generated_wgl_wrappers.c generated file.

Ah, this is probably due to needing python to generate these files, despite
not having an autoconf check for that.  I've added one.

 Yes, I do. On that note, the prerequisites are missing:

 libpixman1-devel
 libx11-devel
 libgl-devel
 libxkbfile-devel
 libxcb-image-devel
 lib-icccm-devel

 (detected during configure)

 and

 glapi-devel

 (detected at compile-time)
 
 Thanks for the list. I'll update the documentation appropriately.

I've added libglapi-devel, libxcb-icccm-devel and libxcb-image-devel.

The others seem to be already on that page.

They may not be getting installed by the setup invocation you give, I think
package name is case sensitive, and setup doesn't diagnose attempts to install
non-existent packages.

 There is also no sanity check for flex, although it is listed as a 
 prerequisite.
 
 Ok.  I guess I need to add one then :-)

We already have a AC_PROG_LEX check.

Unfortunately, even with this autoconf assumes that lex will not actually be
needed to build as lex generated files will be shipped in the tarball made by
'make dist', and no error is reported if it isn't found.

Also unfortunately, the xserver tarball included in the source package
violates this assumption as it is generated by cygport directly from a git
tag, not using 'make dist', so doesn't include these generated files.

I've made a change so that the configure script in the xserver tarball
included in the source package will now require lex and yacc to be found.

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Re: Bug with Cygwin's 'quilt' is actually in 'patch'

2013-06-20 Thread Matt D.
I'm building from Linux source from the X2Go git repository. The patches 
are being applied downstream to the last base nx libraries provided by 
NoMachine. It can't be helped if the original source has CRLF in this case.


I understand that Cygwin is trying to emulate Linux here, but I don't 
believe that is the appropriate response regarding tools like 'patch' 
which should not have this kind of limitation. The fact that it thinks:


 \r\n  \r\n

but..

 \r\n == \n

As I mentioned previously, patch does NOT have this issue on Linux using 
the EXACT SAME test case.


This is definitely a bug.


On 6/20/2013 1:47 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote:

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:31:48PM -0400, Matt D. wrote:

I've been looking further into this and it appears as though the problem
is in 'patch' not 'quilt'. quilt is actually a collection of bash
scripts and calls patch to do the actual patching.

Using the same example I provided earlier in the thread, the same error
occurs when calling patch directly:

$ patch Imakefile patches/test.patch

Running dos2unix on test.patch will allow the patch to apply
successfully. However, this is WRONG. Imakefile and the initially
created test.patch both use CRLF line endings. The patch should
definitely NOT apply by introducing actual disparity.

To summarize, the patch to Imakefile (CRLF) will apply if it is
converted to LF line endings. Using the '--binary' switch seems to be a
workaround for this issue.


Sorry but we're emulating Linux here.  You shouldn't have CRLF endings
on your text file if you want the tools to work reliably.

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Re: Problem with FAQ heading

2013-06-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 20 03:30, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote:
 http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.html#faq.programming.msvs-mingw
 
 6.19.  How do I use cygwin1.dll with Visual Studio or MinGW?
 
 This section doesn't actually mention MinGW except in its heading.

Thanks for the heads up.  There's also the later chapter
faq.programming.win32-no-cygwin which mentions the old mingw.org
but not the more modern mingw-w64 toolchain.

I try to look into that, but I would be very grateful if somebody else
could take a heart and update these chapters a bit.  Patches most
welcome!


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Re: Bug with Cygwin's 'quilt' is actually in 'patch'

2013-06-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 19 23:31, Matt D. wrote:
 I've been looking further into this and it appears as though the
 problem is in 'patch' not 'quilt'. quilt is actually a collection of
 bash scripts and calls patch to do the actual patching.
 
 Using the same example I provided earlier in the thread, the same
 error occurs when calling patch directly:
 
 $ patch Imakefile patches/test.patch
 
 Running dos2unix on test.patch will allow the patch to apply
 successfully. However, this is WRONG. Imakefile and the initially
 created test.patch both use CRLF line endings. The patch should
 definitely NOT apply by introducing actual disparity.
 
 To summarize, the patch to Imakefile (CRLF) will apply if it is
 converted to LF line endings. Using the '--binary' switch seems to
 be a workaround for this issue.

I can reproduce this problem on 32 bit Cygwin but not on 64 bit Cygwin.

The 64 bit version has a newer patch version 2.7.1, while I so far
neglected to update the 32 bit version which is still on 2.6.1.  I'll
build a new patch 2.7.1 for 32 bit today.  I hope that fixes it for
32 bit as well.  Stay tuned for the announcement.


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Different Result using ps -efW (Manual Cron)

2013-06-20 Thread Jun Iriola
Hi,

I made a simple script that should detect if a certain service is running or 
not.  Said script will run via cron.

When I tested it and executed it manually in the command prompt, it list all 
Cygwin and Windows processes. But when I put it in cron, the number of services 
detected were not the same. Account used is the same during manual execution 
and also on cron.

To get the list of services, I use this command /usr/bin/ps -efW.

Do you have any idea why such behavior?  Help is very much appreciated.  Thanks.

Regards,

Jun


Result via manual run

     UID     PID    PPID  TTY        STIME COMMAND
 jvi3147    5804    2192 pty2     16:12:50 /usr/bin/ps
cyg_serv    4304    4844 ?        17:53:46 /usr/sbin/sshd
cyg_serv    5964    4304 ?        10:16:27 /usr/sbin/sshd
 jvi3147    2192    5964 pty2     10:16:41 /usr/bin/bash
 jvi3147    5204       1 ?        11:41:02 /usr/bin/mintty
 jvi3147    4880    5204 pty0     11:41:02 /usr/bin/bash
cyg_serv    4024    4304 ?        15:09:27 /usr/sbin/sshd
cyg_serv    1652    4304 ?        09:08:35 /usr/sbin/sshd
cyg_serv    2108    6088 ?        17:55:14 /usr/sbin/cron
cyg_serv    4844       1 ?        17:53:46 /usr/bin/cygrunsrv
cyg_serv    6088       1 ?        17:55:14 /usr/bin/cygrunsrv
       0       4       0 ?          Mar 28 System
       0     412       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\smss.exe
       0     480       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\csrss.exe
       0     532       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\wininit.exe
       0     608       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\services.exe
       0     620       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\lsass.exe
       0     628       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\lsm.exe
       0     788       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe
       0     852       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe
       0     932       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe
       0     984       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe
       0    1000       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe
       0    1024       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\SLsvc.exe
       0    1068       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe
       0    1128       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe
       0    1484       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe
       0    1628       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe
       0    1728       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\spoolsv.exe
       0    2008       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe
       0    2020       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe
       0     300       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Program Files\Sophos\Remote 
Management System\ManagementAgentNT.exe
       0     424       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Program 
Files\Sophos\AutoUpdate\ALsvc.exe
       0     796       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Program Files\Sophos\Remote 
Management System\RouterNT.exe
       0     680       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\taskeng.exe
       0    2060       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Program Files\VMware\VMware 
Tools\vmtoolsd.exe
       0    2184       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Program 
Files\VERITAS\VxPBX\bin\pbx_exchange.exe
       0    2260       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe
       0    2296       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Program 
Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin\vnetd.exe
       0    2500       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Program Files\VMware\VMware 
Tools\VMUpgradeHelper.exe
       0    2532       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Program 
Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin\bpinetd.exe
       0    2704       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Program 
Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin\bpcd.exe
       0    2928       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\dllhost.exe
       0    3028       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\msdtc.exe
       0    3360       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe
       0    3700       0 ?          Mar 28 C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe
       0    2224       0 ?          Apr  1 C:\Windows\System32\csrss.exe
       0    1956       0 ?          Apr  1 C:\Windows\System32\winlogon.exe
       0     944       0 ?          Apr  1 C:\Windows\System32\LogonUI.exe
       0    3292       0 ?          Jun  4 C:\Program Files\OCS Inventory 
Agent\OcsService.exe
       0    4856       0 ?          Jun 12 C:\Program Files\Sophos\Sophos 
Anti-Virus\SavService.exe
       0    6120       0 ?          Jun 12 C:\Program Files\Sophos\Sophos 
Anti-Virus\SAVAdminService.exe
       0    4372       0 ?          Jun 12 C:\Program Files\Sophos\Sophos 
Anti-Virus\sdcservice.exe
       0    4400       0 ?          Jun 12 C:\Program Files\Sophos\Sophos 
Anti-Virus\Web Intelligence\swi_service.exe
       0    4424       0 ?        18:10:12 C:\Windows\System32\csrss.exe
       0    2440       0 ?        18:10:12 

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: patch-2.7.1-1

2013-06-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
I just updated the patch utility to upstream version 2.7.1.


To update your installation, click on the Install Cygwin now link
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Re: git svn fork() problems on cygwin 1.7.20

2013-06-20 Thread Mikko Rapeli
Hi,

I also noticed the perl package errors and did a reinstall of all perl packages
with setup.exe. Did not help.

Then in desperation I did a few reboots and rebaseall's and suddenly the
problem is gone. Sigh.

Somehow this is triggered by Windows 7 security updates but now again
everything with cygwin is working.

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Re: Different Result using ps -efW (Manual Cron)

2013-06-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 20 01:22, Jun Iriola wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I made a simple script that should detect if a certain service is running or 
 not.  Said script will run via cron.
 
 When I tested it and executed it manually in the command prompt, it list all 
 Cygwin and Windows processes. But when I put it in cron, the number of 
 services detected were not the same. Account used is the same during manual 
 execution and also on cron.
 
 To get the list of services, I use this command /usr/bin/ps -efW.
 
 Do you have any idea why such behavior?  Help is very much appreciated.  
 Thanks.

It's probably related to your user token's permissions.  See
http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html#ntsec-setuid-overview
Try using method 3, it should give full, equivalent access as in
interactive mode.


Corinna

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Re: Adding MSYS functionality to Cygwin

2013-06-20 Thread Earnie Boyd
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Charles Wilson wrote:

 I assume that, eventually and as-needed, a *small* number of additional
 hooks could be added to other code paths than exec/spawn/etc -- such as
 the aforementioned uname(3) thing. (One of the deltas between cygwin and
 msys was msys used a really stupid ownership/permission model -- pretend
 current user owns everything; check the DOS R/O bit for +w; check the file
 extension for +x; -- but this can be approximated with existing $CYGWIN
 entries or mount options. I think. So reimplementing that feature of MSYS
 would not require any additional hooks).

IIRC that stupid ownership/permission model was a part of the
original Cygwin 1.3 and was not modified.

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Re: Adding MSYS functionality to Cygwin

2013-06-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 20 09:07, Earnie Boyd wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Charles Wilson wrote:
 
  I assume that, eventually and as-needed, a *small* number of additional
  hooks could be added to other code paths than exec/spawn/etc -- such as
  the aforementioned uname(3) thing. (One of the deltas between cygwin and
  msys was msys used a really stupid ownership/permission model -- pretend
  current user owns everything; check the DOS R/O bit for +w; check the file
  extension for +x; -- but this can be approximated with existing $CYGWIN
  entries or mount options. I think. So reimplementing that feature of MSYS
  would not require any additional hooks).
 
 IIRC that stupid ownership/permission model was a part of the
 original Cygwin 1.3 and was not modified.

CYGWIN=ntsec ruled way back when...


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Re: Heimdal 1.5.2: unknown mech-code 2529639054 for mech 1 3 6 1 4 1 311 2 2 10

2013-06-20 Thread Jeffrey Altman
On 6/14/2013 5:39 PM, Nogin, Aleksey wrote:
 debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent
 debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
 debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password
 debug1: Next authentication method: gssapi-with-mic
 debug1:  Miscellaneous failure (see text)
 unknown mech-code 2529639054 for mech 1 3 6 1 4 1 311 2 2 10
 
 debug1: Delegating credentials
 debug1: Delegating credentials
 debug1: Enabling compression at level 6.
 debug1: Authentication succeeded (gssapi-with-mic).
 Authenticated to XXXhostXXX ([IP.IP.IP.IP]:22).

I'm not sure what the issue is here.  The authentication succeeded.

MechType 1.3.6.1.4.1.311.2.2.10 is Microsoft's NTLM SSP.  The sshd does
not support NTLM and so rejects it.  The next GSS mechanism is
negotiated within the gssapi-with-mic exchange.  That is probably
Kerberos5 and it succeeds.

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Re: cygport limitations (was: Adding MSYS functionality to Cygwin)

2013-06-20 Thread Warren Young

On 6/19/2013 12:38, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote:

On 2013-06-19 12:57, Warren Young wrote:

You're not talking about anything different than the sort of thing
Cygwin package maintainers go through, sometimes needing to arm-twist
odd build systems to behave according to cygport's expectations?


I think you mean Cygwin's expectations?


Not really, no.

I'm assuming everyone is using cygport now to create packages, or can't 
because of one of these violated expectations.


My ctags package is one of the latter, because although it ships with a 
configure script, it isn't an autoconf configure script.  When I tried 
migrating the package to cygport 3.5 years ago, cygport failed to DTRT 
because the ctags build system doesn't know how to configure and build 
outside the source tree.  I ended up falling back on my custom build 
script, which simply builds in-tree, then overrides some make(!) 
variables to force it to install into a temp directory, which I then 
pack up by hand.  This is tolerable because ctags is a relatively simple 
package.


I think I see how to get cygport to build this package now, but it 
wouldn't buy me much, because I'd be overriding so much of its default 
behavior.  All I'd be doing is pushing it into this next category.


That second category of packages are those that are built using cygport 
despite the fact that it requires a highly customized .cygport file. 
The more customizations you add, the more of cygport's base assumptions 
you are violating with your package.


The last doxygen package I shipped was a good example of this:

1. I had to pass --platform linux-g++ to configure to get it to build 
correctly.  (It might have been one of those cases where it saw #if 
WINDOWS == true and did the wrong thing.)  I don't know if CYGCONF_ARGS 
didn't exist when I wrote that, but for some reason I felt compelled to 
override the src_compile rule to pass this flag.


2. Though I now know about CYGCONF_ARGS, if I picked the package back up 
for some reason, I don't think I could get rid of my src_compile() 
override because of a second build problem: Doxygen's own documentation 
has a primitive and completely separate build system.  Not only does 
make at the top level not cd doc  make, but doc/Makefile also 
doesn't understand things like DESTDIR.  I ended up needing to override 
src_install(), too.


I don't mean to impugn cygport's capabilities, or yours, Yaakov.  I 
prefer to use cygport, and don't like it when I can't.


My point is, cygport's default assumptions about how software gets built 
and installed aren't always correct.  Sometimes it has enough 
flexibility to cope with those differences (e.g. my doxygen case) and 
other times it's just not worth the bother (e.g. my ctags case).


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Re: cygport limitations (was: Adding MSYS functionality to Cygwin)

2013-06-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 20 11:43, Warren Young wrote:
 On 6/19/2013 12:38, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote:
 On 2013-06-19 12:57, Warren Young wrote:
 You're not talking about anything different than the sort of thing
 Cygwin package maintainers go through, sometimes needing to arm-twist
 odd build systems to behave according to cygport's expectations?
 
 I think you mean Cygwin's expectations?
 
 Not really, no.
 [...]
 My point is, cygport's default assumptions about how software gets
 built and installed aren't always correct.  Sometimes it has enough
 flexibility to cope with those differences (e.g. my doxygen case)
 and other times it's just not worth the bother (e.g. my ctags case).

My point is, it's always worth to switch packages to cygport:

- cygport is the closest we have to a unified build system (like rpm).
  If every maintainer would use cygport, it would allow us to change
  the build method to one along the lines of most Linux distros.
  In Linux distros, the maintainer provides only the spec file and
  the source archive.  The actual build for all supported platforms 
  could be done on a machine which creates the distro from there.

- Cygport does cope with most problems you can come up with and if
  it doesn't, you can tweak it.  Your ctags problem could have been
  easily solved by the lndirs method, for instance.  And if cygport
  still doesn't cope, there's an active maintainer and a cygwin-apps
  mailing list for questions.

- Cygport is pretty easy to use and other people can easily pick up
  your package and build another version using your Cygwin build
  settings, or even take over maintainership should the need arise.

Of course, the better is the foe of the good, but unless somebody comes
up with another build system which integrates nicely into Cygwin and is
easier to use than cygport, cygport is the best system we have and I
advocate for using it throughout.


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Re: cygport limitations

2013-06-20 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)

On 2013-06-20 12:43, Warren Young wrote:

I'm assuming everyone is using cygport now to create packages, or can't
because of one of these violated expectations.

My ctags package is one of the latter, because although it ships with a
configure script, it isn't an autoconf configure script.  When I tried
migrating the package to cygport 3.5 years ago, cygport failed to DTRT
because the ctags build system doesn't know how to configure and build
outside the source tree.  I ended up falling back on my custom build
script, which simply builds in-tree, then overrides some make(!)
variables to force it to install into a temp directory, which I then
pack up by hand.  This is tolerable because ctags is a relatively simple
package.


This is explained in the manual wrt cygconf:


* cygconf is intended for configure scripts generated by, or compatible
  with, autoconf. Packages with handwritten configure scripts may not
  accept allthe flags used by cygconf, in which case a direct call to
  the configure  script is in order.


In this case, not having looked at ctags, you'll probably need something 
along the lines of:


src_compile() {
lndirs
cd ${B}
./configure --prefix=/usr || error configure failed
cygmake
}


That second category of packages are those that are built using cygport
despite the fact that it requires a highly customized .cygport file. The
more customizations you add, the more of cygport's base assumptions you
are violating with your package.

The last doxygen package I shipped was a good example of this:

1. I had to pass --platform linux-g++ to configure to get it to build
correctly.  (It might have been one of those cases where it saw #if
WINDOWS == true and did the wrong thing.)  I don't know if CYGCONF_ARGS
didn't exist when I wrote that, but for some reason I felt compelled to
override the src_compile rule to pass this flag.


FWIW, CYGCONF_ARGS has been around for a *long* time.


2. Though I now know about CYGCONF_ARGS, if I picked the package back up
for some reason, I don't think I could get rid of my src_compile()
override because of a second build problem: Doxygen's own documentation
has a primitive and completely separate build system.  Not only does
make at the top level not cd doc  make, but doc/Makefile also
doesn't understand things like DESTDIR.  I ended up needing to override
src_install(), too.


There's nothing wrong with that.  src_compile(), src_test(), and 
src_install() are intended to be provided by cygport(5)s; the provided 
*defaults* of those are NOT opaque APIs (hence they are actually shown 
in the docs) and are meant to be overridden whenever necessary.



I don't mean to impugn cygport's capabilities, or yours, Yaakov.  I
prefer to use cygport, and don't like it when I can't.


There should NEVER be a reason that you can't use cygport for your 
packages.  If you're having an issue, just provide your (draft) 
cygport(5) and ask.



Yaakov


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Re: cygport limitations

2013-06-20 Thread David Stacey

On 20/06/13 18:43, Warren Young wrote:

The last doxygen package I shipped was a good example of this:

1. I had to pass --platform linux-g++ to configure to get it to 
build correctly.  (It might have been one of those cases where it saw 
#if WINDOWS == true and did the wrong thing.)  I don't know if 
CYGCONF_ARGS didn't exist when I wrote that, but for some reason I 
felt compelled to override the src_compile rule to pass this flag.


2. Though I now know about CYGCONF_ARGS, if I picked the package back 
up for some reason, I don't think I could get rid of my src_compile() 
override because of a second build problem: Doxygen's own 
documentation has a primitive and completely separate build system.  
Not only does make at the top level not cd doc  make, but 
doc/Makefile also doesn't understand things like DESTDIR.  I ended up 
needing to override src_install(), too.


In defence of cygport, it does a great job of subscribing to the Alan 
Kay principle: simple things are simple, and hard things are possible. 
If you think about just how many software packages there are in the 
Linux world, there are also a great many different techniques for 
building them. Cygport is really easy for most modern packages that 
adhere to (or are fairly close to) a standard install, and at least 
the packages that have, ahem, specialist installation mechanisms can be 
built with cygport too.


The other great thing about cygport is that it has become the standard 
for building Cygwin packages, so all (or at least most of) the Cygwin 
maintainers can read and understand cygport files. This means it's much 
easier when the time comes to hand a package on to a new maintainer.


Maybe this is straying into the [RFC] cygport documentation thread 
from the apps ML, but perhaps we could do with a cygport gallery: a 
selection of cygport files ranging from the deliciously simple three or 
four line affairs through to the more stubborn and difficult cases. I 
know that I've picked up some handy techniques by looking at other 
maintainers' cygport files.


Dave.

PS: As the current doxygen maintainer, I am sad to report that the 
cygport file isn't any smaller now that I'm building doxywizard, doing a 
test for libclang-devel (so that I can enable or disable clang assisted 
parsing), and forcing it to make a debuginfo package :-)



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RE: Heimdal 1.5.2: unknown mech-code 2529639054 for mech 1 3 6 1 4 1 311 2 2 10

2013-06-20 Thread Nogin, Aleksey
Jeffrey Altman wrote:

 debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent
 debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
 debug1: Authentications that can continue: 
 publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password
 debug1: Next authentication method: gssapi-with-mic
 debug1:  Miscellaneous failure (see text) unknown mech-code 2529639054 for 
 mech 1 3 6 1 4 1 311 2 2 10
 
 debug1: Delegating credentials
 debug1: Delegating credentials
 debug1: Enabling compression at level 6.
 debug1: Authentication succeeded (gssapi-with-mic).
 Authenticated to XXXhostXXX ([IP.IP.IP.IP]:22).

 I'm not sure what the issue is here.  The authentication succeeded.

The issue that despite the Delegating credentials message, credentials are 
not being delegated.

Aleksey



Broken MPIR 2.6.0 on Cygwin64

2013-06-20 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Dear all,

First thanks a lot for your hard work on the Cygwin project and the
Cygwin64 project.


I've begun to try to build Sage (http://www.sagemath.org) on Cygwin64
to provide some Windows support without the need of a virtual machine
running Linux and now have some trouble compiling a working MPIR 2.6.0
(http://www.mpir.org) library.

Note that I have no problems building a proper static or shared
version of GMP 5.1.2 with the GCC 4.8.1 toolchain currently provided
with Cygwin64, and it passes its complete testsuite.
At some point we should be able to switch to GMP, but we still have
some dependencies relying on MPIR's internals, so we have (and want,
even in the future by default) to stick with MPIR.

Also note we have no problem using MPIR on 32 bit Cygwin.


So my problem with MPIR are as follow:

* the ./configfsf.[guess|sub] and yasm/config/config.[guess|sub] file
within the upstream tarball are too old and failed to recognize
Cygwin64, replacing them with up-to-date version easily solves that,

* I have no problem building a static lib, but running make check
fails when linking any test executable, e.g. the first one
t-bswap.exe:
{{{
/bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC--mode=link gcc -std=gnu99  -m64 -O2
-march=corei7-avx -mtune=corei7-avx-o t-bswap.exe t-bswap.o
libtests.la ../libmpir.la
libtool: link: gcc -std=gnu99 -m64 -O2 -march=corei7-avx
-mtune=corei7-avx -o t-bswap.exe t-bswap.o  ./.libs/libtests.a
/home/jp/mpir-2.6.0/.libs/libmpir.a ../.libs/libmpir.a
collect2: error: ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault], core dumped
Makefile:503: recipe for target `t-bswap.exe' failed
}}}
A 0 byte t-bswap.exe is created and the content of the stackdump is
{{{
$ cat tests/ld.exe.stackdump
Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at rip=03E
rax=0001004C3FA0 rbx=00060018DCB0 rcx=00060018DCB0
rdx=00060018ECA8 rsi=00C2A580 rdi=0025
r8 =00C2A590 r9 =BFFF r10=00C3
r11=0001004B111E r12=0001 r13=00060018ECA9
r14=000100534780 r15=00060018ECA8
rbp=00C2A590 rsp=00C2A528
program=C:\cygwin64\usr\x86_64-pc-cygwin\bin\ld.exe, pid 6744, thread main
cs=0033 ds=002B es=002B fs=0053 gs=002B ss=002B
Stack trace:
FrameFunctionArgs
0C2A590  03E (000, 0130001, 00100512180, 000)
0C2A590  00100493B54 (000, 006000F4B30, 023, 000)
0C2A650  00100433783 (00100534780, 00600057550, 001800C0C2C, 000)
000  0010040E82C (00600022D10, 00600023CF8, 00100436389, 000)
001  0010040F2E0 (001802DE300, 00600019870, 001800C0C2C, 00600017A30)
001004DDD08  001004113FB (00100520580, 000, 001802E3E9D, 001802DF658)
001004DDD08  001004BF4C0 (0C2A9B0, 0C2AA46, 001801691B1, 000)
0C2AB80  0018004836E (000, 000, 000, 000)
000  0018004618B (000, 000, 000, 000)
000  0018004634F (000, 000, 000, 000)
000  001004BDD31 (000, 000, 000, 000)
000  00100401010 (000, 000, 000, 000)
000  00076B7652D (000, 000, 000, 00076BF9300)
000  0007726C521 (000, 000, 000, 00076BF9300)
End of stack trace
}}}

* I have no problem building a shared lib, nor the test programs in
that case, but many (but not all) of them segfaults when they are run.

In the two above cases, I was not able to retrieve useful information
when attaching gdb to the segfaulting process.
I just saw that three threads were launched and the backtrace only
involved Cygwin/Windows dlls.


Did anyone among the Cygwin folk tried to build MPIR on Cygwin64 and
got more success than I had?
Or has any advice to solve these issues?


Thanks in advance for your help,
Best,

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Re: Heimdal 1.5.2: unknown mech-code 2529639054 for mech 1 3 6 1 4 1 311 2 2 10

2013-06-20 Thread Jeffrey Altman
On 6/20/2013 6:31 PM, Nogin, Aleksey wrote:
 Jeffrey Altman wrote:
 
 debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent
 debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
 debug1: Authentications that can continue: 
 publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password
 debug1: Next authentication method: gssapi-with-mic
 debug1:  Miscellaneous failure (see text) unknown mech-code 2529639054 for 
 mech 1 3 6 1 4 1 311 2 2 10

 debug1: Delegating credentials
 debug1: Delegating credentials
 debug1: Enabling compression at level 6.
 debug1: Authentication succeeded (gssapi-with-mic).
 Authenticated to XXXhostXXX ([IP.IP.IP.IP]:22).

 I'm not sure what the issue is here.  The authentication succeeded.
 
 The issue that despite the Delegating credentials message, credentials are 
 not being delegated.
 
 Aleksey


I still do not understand what does that has to do with the subject of
this message?

The credentials that will be deleted are the credentials of the type
that was accepted by the ssh gssapi-with-mic mechanism.  At the
verbosity level that you are using it does not state what that is.

In any case, I am quite sure that if your ssh client states that it has
delegated credentials that it has done so.   You need to debug the
server side to determine where the sshd environment or gssapi library
has determined the credentials have been stored.   For Kerberos it will
need to be a credential cache.  Heimdal defaults to using a non-FILE
based cache but I suspect that Cygwin does not provide a non-FILE based
cache implementation.

Jeffrey Altman



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Re: cygport limitations (was: Adding MSYS functionality to Cygwin)

2013-06-20 Thread Andrew Schulman
   If every maintainer would use cygport, it would allow us to change
   the build method to one along the lines of most Linux distros.
   In Linux distros, the maintainer provides only the spec file and
   the source archive.  The actual build for all supported platforms 
   could be done on a machine which creates the distro from there.

That would be cool.  Let's do it!


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Re: cygport limitations

2013-06-20 Thread Warren Young

On 6/20/2013 12:44, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote:


There should NEVER be a reason that you can't use cygport for your
packages.  If you're having an issue, just provide your (draft)
cygport(5) and ask.


Thanks for the offer.  I've left myself a note to try this again for the 
next ctags release.


I have no idea if there ever will be a new Exuberant Ctags.  The last 
release came out 4 years ago, and activity to the ctags-devel list has 
been under 1 post per month[*] for the past 6 months.


I'd be willing to convert 5.8 to cygport if this plan of Corinna's for 
an automated build server goes through.


[*] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=ctags-devel

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Updated: patch-2.7.1-1

2013-06-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
I just updated the patch utility to upstream version 2.7.1.


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