Re: cc: not found error

2004-04-11 Thread Gregory Borota
In cygwin setup.exe you may want to click on Default next to All to select
all packages for install. This way you will not miss gcc, make etc. and
other good programs that are not selected by a Default installation.

Greg

P.S. To install O'caml you might still need to manually install some
packages not found under Cygwin (see O'caml Readme and Install files). But
it can be done, I installed O'caml on my system some time ago.
x
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004, Mary Michael wrote:

 Hello,

 This is Mary very new to CYGwin. I have installed
 cygwin in Windows XP.

 The main purpose of installing CYGwin is to complie
 O'caml complier.

 I have downloaded O'caml 3.06 version. However while I
 want to configure/install it, CYGwin says that

 cc: not found
 Unable to compile the test program.
 Make sure the C compiler cc -O  is properly installed.

 Did I miss to install any package from cygwin, as I
 often get bash cc: command not found or bash make:
 command not found.

 BTW: I don't have a C compiler in my machine.

 Please help me if I miss to install something. I am a
 newbie to cygwin, a reply would be a great motivation
 to go on to the next step.

 Thanks
 Mary

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Re: PCYMTNQREAIYR

2004-04-01 Thread Gregory Borota

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:

 On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 LarrysPCRemediesataoldotcom wrote:

  Igor, How do I go about configuring my mailer to no quote raw-e-mail
  addresses if I'm using Outlook? I could find no configuration option
  related to this. I understand the need (i.e., e-mail address
  picker-uppers, etc), I'm just curious which e-mail mailer(s) has this
  wondrous option.
 
  Larry

 Well, for starters, you could try setting it to wrap long lines... :-)
 Also, see http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-03/msg00910.html.

 BTW, since you don't have your realname set, pine, at least, automatically
 quotes the e-mail address, and I have to modify it by hand (which I
 sometimes forget to do).  The usual understanding is that if realname is
 set, that's the name that should be used in replies.  This may be a view
 that's too pine-centric.
   Igor

In PINE something like this should qoute the realname if it's there
otherwise just the username part of email address:

reply-leadin=On _DAYDATE_, _FROM_(_ADDRESS_, _MAILBOX_, _FROM_) wrote:


 P.S. I understand the frustration -- searching the web for this is a pain.
Greg

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Re: PCYMTNQREAIYR

2004-04-01 Thread Gregory Borota
Here is an illustration of the previous post about configuring PINE.
Just LarrysPCRemedies is quoted.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, LarrysPCRemedies wrote:

 Igor, How do I go about configuring my mailer to no quote raw-e-mail addresses if 
 I'm using Outlook? I could find no configuration option related to this. I 
 understand the need (i.e., e-mail address picker-uppers, etc), I'm just curious 
 which e-mail mailer(s) has this wondrous option.

 Larry


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Re: PCYMTNQREAIYR

2004-04-01 Thread Gregory Borota

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:

 On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Gregory Borota wrote:

  On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
 
   On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 LarrysPCRemediesataoldotcom wrote:
  
Igor, How do I go about configuring my mailer to no quote raw-e-mail
addresses if I'm using Outlook? I could find no configuration option
related to this. I understand the need (i.e., e-mail address
picker-uppers, etc), I'm just curious which e-mail mailer(s) has this
wondrous option.
   
Larry
  
   Well, for starters, you could try setting it to wrap long lines... :-)
   Also, see http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-03/msg00910.html.
  
   BTW, since you don't have your realname set, pine, at least, automatically
   quotes the e-mail address, and I have to modify it by hand (which I
   sometimes forget to do).  The usual understanding is that if realname is
   set, that's the name that should be used in replies.  This may be a view
   that's too pine-centric.
 Igor
 
  In PINE something like this should qoute the realname if it's there
  otherwise just the username part of email address:
 
  reply-leadin=On _DAYDATE_, _FROM_(_ADDRESS_, _MAILBOX_, _FROM_) wrote:
 
   P.S. I understand the frustration -- searching the web for this is a pain.
  Greg

 I didn't know that.  Pretty cool, thanks!
   Igor

Glad it helps! (GIH)? :-)

 P.S. With all the messages with this subject, now I just have to add it to
 the OLOCA! :-)


With this one new message I am certain it qualifies!

Just wondering if PCYMTNQREAIYR stands for anything meaningful already or
we have to come up with the decipherment? (a difficult job I think)

   http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/
   |\  _,,,---,,_  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-.  ;-;;,_  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D.
 '---''(_/--'  `-'\_) fL   a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-.  Meow!

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Aspell - Ispell

2004-03-28 Thread Gregory Borota
I see there was some discussion about this before.

But still I *personally* would prefer if  Pierre A. Humblet's Ispell port
would be part of cygwin distribution too as his ispell is much faster than
current aspell (at least for english). I tried to use aspell it just makes me
mad, it's so extremely slow. I had to switch back to cygwin ispell from:
ftp://ftp.franken.de/pub/win32/develop/gnuwin32/cygwin/porters/Humblet_Pierre_A/V1.1/ispell-3.2.06-cygwin-1.3-bin.tar.gz

Just wanted to express my point of view. No big deal for me to install it
manually anyway.

Greg

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Re: Window title by shortcut

2004-03-21 Thread Gregory Borota
Something like this should do it:

1. add in cygwin.bat (or a copy of it),  before bash command:
set __TYTLE__=%~1

2. in your .bash_profile add:
if [ $__TYTLE__ ]; then
  PS1=\[\033]0;\$__TYTLE__\007'
[EMAIL PROTECTED] \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\]
$ '
fi

3. Create o shortcut with something like this in the target box:
C:\cygwin\cygwin.bat  Your Title


If I understood you right, this should solve you problem.
Greg

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Vidar wrote:

 Hi!

 I'm trying to find a method for making it so that if I launch a specific shortcut to 
 cygwin
 it will have a title of my choosing, and keep it (not change to the current path and 
 such).
 I've searched the archive but all I could find were some procedures including lots 
 of escape
 characters, which I think would make it diffcult to set the title for this shortcut 
 only (I
 also don't know how to input the escape chars =/ -- newbie here).

 - Vidar

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WhizzyTeX

2004-03-18 Thread Gregory Borota
I tried sending this message twice, it didn't go through, I try again 
with a two part message.

I am interested in becoming a package maintainer for whizzytex.

setup.hint
--
sdesc: A WYSIWIG environment for LaTeX
ldesc: WhizzyTeX is an emacs minor mode for incrementally
(TeXing and) previewing a LaTeX file that you are editing.
It works with cygwin xdvi-based and ghostview-based
previewers, also with with Windows native previewers
like MikTex Yap, dviout, etc.
category: tex
requires: bash emacs xemacs tetex-bin tetex-base tetex-extra tetex-x11 
ghostscript-x11 XFree86-base
--

Greg


Re: WhizzyTeX

2004-03-18 Thread Gregory Borota
I tried sending this message twice, it didn't go through, I try again 
with a two part message.

I am interested in becoming a package maintainer for whizzytex.

setup.hint
--
sdesc: A WYSIWIG environment for LaTeX
ldesc: WhizzyTeX is an emacs minor mode for incrementally
(TeXing and) previewing a LaTeX file that you are editing.
It works with cygwin xdvi-based and ghostview-based
previewers, also with with Windows native previewers
like MikTex Yap, dviout, etc.
category: tex
requires: bash emacs xemacs tetex-bin tetex-base tetex-extra tetex-x11 
ghostscript-x11 XFree86-base
--

Second part.
Package web site:
http://pauillac.inria.fr/whizzytex/
The cygwin package can be found at:
http://condor.depaul.edu/~cschmegn/whizzytex/
Under debian is listed under the section 'tex'.
Requires should contain something like:
emacs OR/AND xemacs
tetex-x11 OR/AND ghostscript-x11
I don't know if that's supported.
Greg


Whizzytex Package

2004-03-18 Thread Gregory Borota
I tried 3 times to send this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It just
won't work! And I am subscribed to the list, and I receive all
communication.


I am interested in becoming a package maintainer for whizzytex.
http://pauillac.inria.fr/whizzytex/

setup.hint
--
sdesc: A WYSIWIG environment for LaTeX
ldesc: WhizzyTeX is an emacs minor mode for incrementally
(TeXing and) previewing a LaTeX file that you are editing.

It works with cygwin xdvi-based and ghostview-based
previewers, also with with Windows native previewers
like MikTex Yap, dviout, etc.
category: tex
requires: bash emacs xemacs tetex-bin tetex-base tetex-extra tetex-x11
ghostscript-x11 XFree86-base
--

The cygwin package can be found at:
http://condor.depaul.edu/~cschmegn/whizzytex/

Under debian is listed under the section 'tex'.
Requires should contain something like:
emacs OR/AND xemacs
tetex-x11 OR/AND ghostscript-x11
I don't know if that's supported.

Greg


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Re: Emacs crashing under XFree86-4.3

2004-03-17 Thread Gregory Borota
Rajesh Balakrishnan Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:21:28 + (UTC)

emacs (under X11) is working fine since Mar 06 snapshot of
cygwin1.dll. http://cygwin.com/snapshots/


That has not been my experience: I have been tracking the snapshots,
but my emacs still segfaults, dumps core, etc. Hopefully I will get a
chance to build sources and debug soon.

I had the same crashing troubles with Emacs (XP). So I switched to 
XEmacs. It works good, no crashing ever just that it's CPU hungry (and 
it shouldn't be started from Start menu links but from a terminal) .

Greg


Re: xdvi script - minor bug

2004-03-17 Thread Gregory Borota
Gregory Borota writes:


Should be:
exec xdvi.bin $NAMEOPT ${1+$@}


Thanks.  I'll forward it upstream, this will be fixed in the next
release.
Jan.
Well, another thing that might be fixed is to allow dvi files to be 
renamed even while they are displayed. At present one could only copy 
into the file but not move into. I find that quite weird. Here is what 
I mean:

$ xdvi file.dvi 

$ cp otherfile.dvi file.dvi

That works!

$ mv otherfile.dvi file.dvi

mv: cannot create regular file `file.dvi': Permission denied

It might be related to the fact that F_SETOWN is not implemented under 
Cygwin.

fcntl F_SETOWN (xdvi): Invalid argument

Thanks,
Greg


WhizzyTeX

2004-03-16 Thread Gregory Borota

I want to port whizzytex (http://pauillac.inria.fr/whizzytex/) to cygwin.
It's quite trivial to port it,
(http://pauillac.inria.fr/whizzytex/FAQ.html#cygwin),  I want to make
it available with the cygwin distribution. Is anybody currently involved in
that?

WhizzyTeX is an (X)Emacs minor-mode for incremental viewing of LATEX
documents. What you get is true WYSIWYG (in a separate xdvi, advi, gv,
miktex yap, etc. window).

If anybody can do OCaml maybe he wants to discuss porting advi to
cygwin. I manage to compiles it but I get some stupid generic run-time
error (exception: Not found). And I have not found the time yet to learn
OCaml and see what this stupid exception is about.

Thanks,
Greg

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xdvi script - minor bug

2004-03-15 Thread Gregory Borota
Last line of the script reads:
xdvi.bin $NAMEOPT ${1+$@}
Should be:
exec xdvi.bin $NAMEOPT ${1+$@}
so that SIGNALS are sent to xdvi.bin and not xdvi script.
Whizzytex for example, needs to send SIGUSR1 to xdvi.bin
to ask it to reread the dvi file.
Thanks,
Greg


xdvi - minor bug

2004-03-15 Thread Gregory Borota
Last line of the script reads:
xdvi.bin $NAMEOPT ${1+$@}

Should be:
exec xdvi.bin $NAMEOPT ${1+$@}

so that SIGNALS are sent to xdvi.bin and not xdvi script.
Whizzytex for example, needs to send SIGUSR1 to xdvi.bin
to ask it to reread the dvi file.

Greg

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Bash bug

2004-03-14 Thread Gregory Borota
I tested this over and over. I think it's a 'nasty' bug here.

#!/bin/bash
(
  # sleep 1# or whatever not very quick command!
  set -m;
  sleep 10# or whatever command takes some time to complete
  set +m;
  pid=$!
  ( sleep 1; kill -- -$pid ) 
  wait $pid
)

without sleep 1 commented you get:

./bug.sh: line 8: kill: (-760) - No such process

with it uncommented it works as expected

./bug.sh: line 10:   492 Terminated  sleep 10

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Subshell

2004-03-12 Thread Gregory Borota
#/bin/bash
echo Silly
( sleep 50 
 ( sleep 50 ) )
wait

each subshell is sh.exe. I want to be be bash.exe. How do I force that
without having to write bash -c 

Thanks,
Greg

P.S. Looked at cygwin faq, archive, didn't find the answer although this
I would think has been brought up before.

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Re: Subshell

2004-03-12 Thread Gregory Borota
Sorry, it should have been #! (beginners mistake, I guess)
Thanks,
Greg

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Christopher Faylor wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 01:49:27PM -0600, Gregory Borota wrote:
 #/bin/bash
 echo Silly
 ( sleep 50 
  ( sleep 50 ) )
 wait
 
 each subshell is sh.exe.

 Why would bash arbitrarily choose sh.exe as the subshell?

 I want to be be bash.exe.  How do I force that without having to
 write bash -c 
 
 P.S. Looked at cygwin faq, archive, didn't find the answer although this
 I would think has been brought up before.

 Hmm.

   c:\cd cygwin\bin

   c:\cygwin\binren sh.exe sh-saf.exe
   C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe - C:\cygwin\bin\sh-saf.exe
1 file renamed

   c:\cygwin\binbash
   bash-2.05b$ (sleep 1)  # works
   bash-2.05b$ cat /tmp/tst
   #!/bin/bash
   echo Silly
   (sleep 1 
(sleep 1))
   bash-2.05b$ /tmp/tst
   Silly
   bash-2.05b$ # works

 If bash used /bin/sh then it would have complained when running the above.

 I verified via strace that bash wasn't looking for sh.exe and settling
 for bash.exe if it didn't exist, too.
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Re: cygrunsrv taking near all cpu time

2004-03-05 Thread Gregory Borota
From your message I understand the problem is caused by Panda Antivirus
not cygrunsrv
I also had in the past some minor issues with McAfee
(halting one postinstall script, causing cygwin to run slower, etc.).
From my experience antivirus software would cause problems not only with
cygwin but also lots of native programs.
Greg

You wrote on 3/5/2004 1:50 AM:
- Original Message -
From: Larry Hall cygwin-lh at cygwin.com
 1. Turn off your anti-virus and see if that helps.



I had exaclty the same issue with Panda Antivirus. It happened with Panda 2004 
and with the recend version of the old release, I think 2.0.5. Older versions 
worked fine (2.0.4) but will get updated automatically.

After playing a bit around with setting dependencies on services, I had no 
success and gave up. In the end I dropped Panda and moved to NOD32 which runs 
very well up till now.

PS: It is definitely cygrunsrv that causes the problem. I have few daemons 
running (sshd, fetchmail) and all had the same problem.

Regards,
Christian
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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] New package: setsid-0.0-3

2004-03-05 Thread Gregory Borota
Corinna wrote on 3/4/2004 8:07 AM:

On Mar  3 16:44, Gregory Borota wrote:

(I don't see the point for having stderr and stdout redirected also. (for
symmetry maybe))


In theory, redirecting all descriptors attached to the console window
should allow to close the console window since when the last open
handle is closed, Cygwin calls FreeConsole().  It's just that I don't
know currently why it doesn't close the console.
Corinna
If setsid is run inside a Windows console it works as described in the 
readme file. But when run from a cygwin console it won't let you close 
the console window only after the command has finished. This behavior is 
under my XP Prof.

Greg

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Email Mangling

2004-03-05 Thread Gregory Borota

Looking at the headers for a message I sent recently (id 89248) I see that
my email address was not mutilated in the Received: field. If one uses
SBC Yahoo's smtp server he has his email address as username.

If this is a very isolated incident then maybe nobody should bother.
If not maybe it should. I personally no longer care, I changed the smtp
server, just wanted to point this out (don't know if this subject already
discussed, too many hits for sbc yahoo if googling the archive).

Greg


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Re: 1.5.5.1 st_ctime and st_mtime is not updated for functions.

2004-03-05 Thread Gregory Borota
Forgive my ignorance just wondering what does PERROR has to do with
st_ctime and st_mtime. You mean when you redirect stderr to a file?

Greg

On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Vinay Kumar wrote:

 Hi all,
I ran PCTS on cygwin 1.5.5.1 and found some problem. According to
 standard document of posix conformance  following function need to update
 the st_ctime and st_mtime fields of the underlying file. These functions
 are not doing so. Is there any specific reason for that? Is it
 implementation limitation or a design contraint?

 fclose(11A), fflush(04A), fputc(04A), fputs(04A),freopen(26A,27A), fseek(11A),
 perror(04A), printf(11A), fprintf(11A), vprintf(11A), vfprintf(12A), putc(11A), 
 puts(11A), remove(18A),
 rewind(4A), creat(37A,38A), link(39A), unlink(25A),rmdir(23A),
 rename(43A), stat(29A), fstat(13A), chmod(24A),  utime(25A).

 Functions written above are failing in updating the st_ctime and st_mtime
 fields of the underlying, which is a basic assertion according to POSIX.1.
 The example of one assertion is below
11A -  When the stream is writable and buffered data is caused
 to be written, then a call to fclose(stream) marks for update the st_ctime
 and st_mtime fields of the underlying file.

 Any help in this regard is appreciated.


 regards
 Vinay

 Note: fclose(11A) means Assertion number 11 for function fclose in
 standard document IEEE std 2003.1-1992 Test Methods for Measuring
 Conformance to Posix-Part1 System Interface



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Re: Email Mangling

2004-03-05 Thread Gregory Borota

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-03/msg00245.html
http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin/get-raw-msg?listname=cygwindate=2004-03msgid=Pine.CYG.4.58.0403041424140.812%40lap

On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Christopher Faylor wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 08:12:29AM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
 On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Gregory Borota wrote:
 Looking at the headers for a message I sent recently (id 89248) I see
 that my email address was not mutilated in the Received: field.  If one
 uses SBC Yahoo's smtp server he has his email address as username.
 
 If this is a very isolated incident then maybe nobody should bother.
 If not maybe it should.  I personally no longer care, I changed the
 smtp server, just wanted to point this out (don't know if this subject
 already discussed, too many hits for sbc yahoo if googling the
 archive).
 
 Since the raw text is generated by a CGI script, steps could be taken
 to block spam harvesters from even seeing it...  OTOH, it might be
 easier to just run the substitution on the Received: header...

 Since 89248 is not a URL, I am not sure what we're talking about here.
 I looked at a couple of messages and don't see anything other than
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the received lines, which sort of makes sense.

 cgf

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Re: Following on old threads

2004-03-04 Thread Gregory Borota

  FYI, the number in the archives is not necessarily the same as the
  number that you'd use to retrieve via email.
 
  The software that we run on sources.redhat.com aka cygwin.com is ezmlm.
  If there are more advanced questions on using ezmlm, then a web search
  would unearth some documentation.
 
  cgf

 If you mean that the message number in the archives (e.g., 00229 from
 http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-03/msg00229.html) is not the one you
 use, then yes, that's absolutely true.

 If, however, the number in the Return-Path header of a Cygwin list message
 is not the number that you'd use to retrieve that message, then I've
 completely misunderstood what ezmlm documentation I've read.  I know that
 with sublists present, the sequence numbers may be different, but, IIUC,
 the Cygwin lists don't utilize the sublist mechanism.  Also, some systems
 may strip out the Return-Path header, but if it's present, it should
 provide the right message number, right?

I could retrieve ANY message I wanted with that number, my problem was
that it looked like I started a new thread for a 6 months old when I
wanted to follow up on it (Seems like that's not trully possible once the
message is from a different month).

To me Igor is right as what he  suggested worked with any message I wanted
to get.

Greg

P.S. I'll stop here.

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How to retrieve old messages, index, etc.

2004-03-03 Thread Gregory Borota
From the mail one gets when subscribing to this list:

To get messages 123 through 145 (a maximum of 100 per request), mail:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To get an index with subject and author for messages 123-456 , mail:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
They are always returned as sets of 100, max 2000 per request,
so you'll actually get 100-499.
To receive all messages with the same subject as message 12345,
send an empty message to:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am new to mail list stuff, so please forgive me if I am annoying.
Does the above ever work for this list? If yes how?
Thanks,
Greg
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Re: How to retrieve old messages, index, etc.

2004-03-03 Thread Gregory Borota
It works!

You are a nice guy. Thanks a lot,
Grigori
You wrote on 3/3/2004 2:59 PM:

On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:


On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Gregory Borota wrote:


From the mail one gets when subscribing to this list:

To get messages 123 through 145 (a maximum of 100 per request), mail:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To get an index with subject and author for messages 123-456 , mail:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
They are always returned as sets of 100, max 2000 per request,
so you'll actually get 100-499.
To receive all messages with the same subject as message 12345,
send an empty message to:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am new to mail list stuff, so please forgive me if I am annoying.
Does the above ever work for this list? If yes how?
Thanks,
Greg
It works.  You need to know the exact message numbers, however.  For
example, your message (the one I'm replying to) was number 89194 (from the
Return-Path: header).  So, to get a copy of your message, you'd send
e-mail to cygwin-get.82194 at cygwin dot com.  Try it...
^
Ahem.  s/2/9/.  Damn those typos...
Igor

   Igor
P.S. The Raw text link in the list archives is your friend. ;-)


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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] New package: setsid-0.0-3

2004-03-03 Thread Gregory Borota

Under my 'CYGWIN_NT-5.1 1.5.7(0.109/3/2) i686' doing for example:

setsid ls -R /

would still block the console window (mostly for as long as ls runs).

IMO by redirecting only stdin to /dev/null one gets a setsid functionality
closer to
how setsid works under Linux and there is no difference concerning the
ability
to close the console window. (It's true that by not redirecting stdin,
console window
can only be killed)

Wouldn't then be better to redirect only stdin? Are things different under
Win9x/Me?

(I don't see the point for having stderr and stdout redirected also. (for
symmetry maybe))

Apologies if what I am suggesting is stupid.

Greg

- Original Message - 
From: Corinna Vinschen


 This new package contains a tiny but handy tool called `setsid'.
 It's the command line version of the system call setsid(2) and
 is also available on a bunch of Linux distros.

 Basically it allows to call an application, say `sleep', like this:

   setsid sleep 10

 `setsid' forks and detaches from the controlling terminal and so
 the inferior application will not be attached to the terminal as
 well.  Or, to make it short, you can start an application as above
 and immediately close the Windows console window while that application
 keeps running.

 On Cygwin, stdin, stdout and stderr are automatically redirected to
 /dev/null if they are connected to the tty (Otherwise closing the
 Windows console window wouldn't succeed).  If you want to keep the
 output, redirect on the command line, e.g.

   setsid ls -l  ls.out


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Following on old threads

2004-03-03 Thread Gregory Borota
A bit OT but I don't know where else to quickly go.

How can one follow on an old thread which one doesn't have in his/her 
mailbox?

Thanks,
Greg
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Re: Following on old threads

2004-03-03 Thread Gregory Borota
You wrote on 3/3/2004 5:43 PM:
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Gregory Borota wrote:


A bit OT but I don't know where else to quickly go.

How can one follow on an old thread which one doesn't have in his/her
mailbox?
Thanks,
Greg


Hmm, didn't you just ask about that?  You locate the thread in the
archives, look at the Raw text of the message you'd like to reply to,
figure out its number (say, 89201), then send mail to cygwin-get.89201 at
cygwin dot com.  You should get a digest of one message (a message that
has another message as an attachment).  Most mail clients will then allow
you to reply to the attached message.  Or you can actually save the raw
I did that.

text of the message (with some tweaking) and use any mbox-compliant mailer
to reply to it (see http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-05/msg01370.html
for details).
Note that in lists archived on a monthly basis (such as this one), the
archives won't keep track of threads referencing messages from previous
months (e.g., if you replied now to some message from January, the list
archives won't show the References or Follow-Ups links for your
message).  However, it's still recommended to reply to older threads
rather than start the discussion anew, as other threaded mail or news
readers may not have the above limitation.
Igor
OK, I got it, the message I wanted to follow was more than 1 month old.

Nice as usual. Thanks,
Greg
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Re: what's the software for making slide under cygwin, please?

2004-03-01 Thread Gregory Borota
You can use LaTeX for that. There are different packages depending on
what kind of slides you want to make. (here some I know of: prosper,
beamer, seminar, slides, etc.) Some of them take advantage of the
powerful presentation features of Adobe PDF (about which I think many of
us 'Windows also' people don't know at all).

HTH,
Greg

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Re: what's the software for making slide under cygwin, please?

2004-03-01 Thread Gregory Borota
PLEASE, configure your email client not to show email addresses in 
reply!!! (or if you can't take this off list)

I work with xemacs (under cygwin) and yap (I can give you nice pointers 
on how to configure them so that you can get real WYSIWYG). I don't like 
Lyx, LaTeX is so nice and intuitive that IMHO you don't need something 
like that to stand in the way (I don't think LyX would even work with 
slides but maybe latest versions are different from what I know LyX to be).

Look, I try to set up a group for help, discussion, etc. about (La)Tex 
under cygwin and Windows. If you join in you will automatically get all 
those pointers on how to set this up. The group is found at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wintex/ (you need to  have or create a 
Yahoo account to join)

IMO no commercial package can come even nearer to what you can get with 
cygwin and miktex and all the other packages I mention in the document 
you can get when you join.

Greg

You wrote on 3/1/2004 11:27 PM:

Dear Greg,

Thanks for the reply. What I really want is something to make presentation
slides in seminar, something like Lyx, which is the drive for me to install
cygwin-:)
Any ideas?

Best regards,
Michael Chen
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Re: what's the software for making slide under cygwin, please?

2004-03-01 Thread Gregory Borota
Randall,

I agree with you. Maybe the master wants to take notice.

Greg

You wrote on 3/2/2004 12:21 AM:
Hi,

I think it's pretty unreasonable to rely on every individual posting to 
this list to obfuscate email addresses in their submissions. It's 
inherently error prone, will never be done anywhere near thoroughly 
enough and properly is a responsibility of the list software.

IMO, of course.

Randall Schulz
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Re: Issue with rxvt

2004-02-29 Thread Gregory Borota
I am just guessing here, but I might be right (You may check with rxvt 
source code and/or 'man rxvt', I no time and don't use it).

Without '-e bash', rxvt calls the much simpler, scaled-down 'ash' which 
is not able to understand more advanced terminal control escape 
sequences but bash is. And see to it that '- e bash' is always the last 
on command line (if you give rxvt other options, that's how xterm 
behaves I guess rxvt follows that too)

Glad it helps,
Greg
Jonathan E. Brickman wrote:

Thank you very much, Gregory!

What is different about a -e that turns on the escape-code
recognition?

What about trying?:


rxvt -e bash


Greg




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Re: XEmacs and hot laptops

2004-02-29 Thread Gregory Borota
Yes it's true with the stuff I am doing xemacs uses the processor 
heavyly (according to task manager).

Thanks,
Greg
Larry Hall wrote:

At 12:49 AM 2/29/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:

When I run cygwin XEmacs on my laptop after some time I have to close it as my laptop becomes very hot (and the fan goes non-stop and lot noisier than usual). So I work on porting some latex related stuff that works only on cygwin to native XEmacs. I wouldn't do that but I am afraid not to fry my laptop. 
Does anybody have this problem too?


This sounds a bit off-topic for this list since it's clearly a hardware 
issue.  While it's possible that Cygwin's XEmacs works your processor more
than other programs you're using, the fact that it may cause your machine
to get overly hot is a factor of the hardware, not the software.  If this 
is really a concern for you, you'll want to contact your hardware 
manufacturer to see if they can help get your machine to run cooler.



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Cygwin Shell Here

2004-02-29 Thread Gregory Borota
In Windows Explorer I want to add a CYGWIN Shell context menu option 
on file system folders, giving me a quick way to open a Cygwin window 
pointing at the selected folder. This is what I came up with:

1. In the cygwin.bat file I add the line

set __CYG_PATH_=%~1

(somewhere before 'bash --login -i' line)

2. In my .bash_profile I add the line:

cd $__CYG_PATH_

3. I add to the registry the following lines:

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\CygCmd]
@=CYGWIN Shell
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\CygCmd\command]
@=C:\\cygwin\\cygwin.bat \%1\
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Drive\shell\CygCmd]
@=CYGWIN Shell
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Drive\shell\CygCmd\command]
@=C:\\cygwin\\cygwin.bat \%1\
I wonder if there isn't a simpler and nicer way to do this?

Gregory
ÿþWindows Registry Editor Version 5.00



[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\CygCmd]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]CYGWIN Shell



[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\CygCmd\command]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]C:\\cygwin\\cygwin.bat \%1\



[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Drive\shell\CygCmd]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]CYGWIN Shell



[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Drive\shell\CygCmd\command]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]C:\\cygwin\\cygwin.bat \%1\

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Cygwin Shell Here

2004-02-29 Thread Gregory Borota
In Windows Explorer I want to add a CYGWIN Shell context menu option 
on file system folders, giving me a quick way to open a Cygwin window 
pointing at the selected folder. This is what I came up with:

1. In the cygwin.bat file I add the line

set __CYG_PATH_=%~1

(somewhere before 'bash --login -i' line)

2. In my .bash_profile I add the line:

cd $__CYG_PATH_

3. I add to the registry the following lines:

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\CygCmd]
@=CYGWIN Shell
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\CygCmd\command]
@=C:\\cygwin\\cygwin.bat \%1\
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Drive\shell\CygCmd]
@=CYGWIN Shell
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Drive\shell\CygCmd\command]
@=C:\\cygwin\\cygwin.bat \%1\
I wonder if there isn't a simpler and nicer way to do this?

Gregory

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Re: XEmacs and hot laptops

2004-02-29 Thread Gregory Borota
Larry,

Your email client is configured to quote raw e-mail addresses in
replies, I think it would be good if you'd change that. Now my email 
address is visible for all spam harvesters to colect..

Greg

Larry Hall wrote:
At 12:49 AM 2/29/2004, borota you wrote:

When I run cygwin XEmacs on my laptop after some time I have to close it as my laptop becomes very hot (and the fan goes non-stop and lot noisier than usual). So I work on porting some latex related stuff that works only on cygwin to native XEmacs. I wouldn't do that but I am afraid not to fry my laptop. 
Does anybody have this problem too?


This sounds a bit off-topic for this list since it's clearly a hardware 
issue.  While it's possible that Cygwin's XEmacs works your processor more
than other programs you're using, the fact that it may cause your machine
to get overly hot is a factor of the hardware, not the software.  If this 
is really a concern for you, you'll want to contact your hardware 
manufacturer to see if they can help get your machine to run cooler.

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Re: XEmacs and hot laptops

2004-02-29 Thread Gregory Borota
Larry Hall wrote:

Huh, I never noticed that before.  I guess Eudora isn't as smart as I 
thought right out of the box.  Well, I'll look into how to make it 
behave properly in all situations.  As you can see from the below, it
will choose the human name over the email address if it has the 
choice (i.e. I didn't edit my quoted reply below).  But it looks like if
only has the email address, it uses it.  Bad Eudora!  Sorry for the trouble.

Larry
It's all right. That's not my 'private' email address so if I have 
trouble I'll just deactivate that account.

Greg

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ulimit -t

2004-02-29 Thread Gregory Borota
Had somebody managed to successfully simulate ulimit -t in a shell script?

If yes, how?

Greg

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