Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: perl-5.10.0-1 [EXPERIMENTAL]

2008-01-08 Thread Reini Urban
 According to Reini Urban on 12/27/2007 10:31 AM:
 | A diff of the modules from 5.8 to 5.10 is below.
 | Module::Build is definitely now in CORE.

 So I should be prepared to mark perl-module-build as an obsolete package
 once perl is no longer experimental?

Obsolete it only when the perl 5.8 prev version will be deleted.

When perl-5.10 will go curr, then an empty perl-module-build
or even the same tar.gz will do.
I believe it will be in about two weeks or so.
One major performance bug was just found and fixed, which will require a
5.10.0-3 release, and the Win32::GUI::Scintilla crash fix (cygwin only) is
also outstanding.

Your old 5.8 build does no harm to the 5.10 perl.
We do not have vendor_perl/5.8 in the new @INC.
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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: perl-5.10.0-1 [EXPERIMENTAL]

2008-01-07 Thread Eric Blake

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According to Reini Urban on 12/27/2007 10:31 AM:
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| A diff of the modules from 5.8 to 5.10 is below.
| Module::Build is definitely now in CORE.

So I should be prepared to mark perl-module-build as an obsolete package
once perl is no longer experimental?

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: perl-5.10.0-1 [EXPERIMENTAL]

2007-12-27 Thread Reini Urban

Reini Urban schrieb:

The cygwin perl packages perl and perl_manpages have
been updated in the experimental branch to 5.10.0-1.
  Click on [Exp]

Several libraries will follow soon. When all libraries have been updated 
we can switch from Experimental to Current.


perl-5.10.0 cygwin notes:

This release is binary incompatible with the previous 5.8 releases, but
compatible to all future 5.10.x releases. That's why we named the main
perl DLL /bin/cygperl5_10.dll and not cygperl5_10_0.dll.

The requirements for the special perl link driver ld2 and perlld had
been removed.

Cygwin mount point information is now accessible, esp. text/binary
detection.

Some modules have been added to vendor_perl, but most of the old vendor
modules moved to CORE.
Included are Bundle::CPAN, CPAN::Reporter, XML::LibXML and several
Test modules.
Note: Installed modules (e.g. via CPAN) in site_perl have higher
precedence than vendor_perl modules. So you can easily update these.

See http://www.perl.org/
ChangeLog: http://perldoc.perl.org/perldelta.html
Cygwin README: http://perldoc.perl.org/perlcygwin.html

Vendor patches:
* CYG04 - major.version cygperl5_10.dll and not cygperl5_10_x.dll
* CYG11 - no-bs Empty .bs files are not generated anymore

Update recommendations:
---

Since 5.10 is not installed in parallel to 5.8 (it is possible, but not
with this package), all your old 5.8 modules will need to be reinstalled
for 5.10.
Your old 5.8 modules are not deleted, just not accessible to 5.10.
Non-binary packages can be used by adding /usr/lib/perl5/site_lib/5.8 to
your @INC, but the below procedure is recommended to get the latest
version for each installed package.
This will not harm most of your previous 5.8 modules in case you want to
switch back to 5.8, just the /bin scripts might get overwritten.

BEFORE INSTALLATION of 5.10 !
# get the list of installed 5.8 modules
$ perl -MExtUtils::Installed \
  -e'print join(\n, new ExtUtils::Installed-modules)'  module.list

AFTER INSTALLATION of 5.10 !
# install all previous modules for 5.10
$ cpan `cat module.list`


Detailed NEWS from README
-
5.10.0-1

- Configure -de -Dmksymlinks -Duse64bitint -Dusethreads -Uusemymalloc \
-Doptimize='-O3' -Dman3ext='3pm' -Dusesitecustomize
  (unchanged from 5.8)

- cygwin /bin g+w incompatible with TAINT (-T)
  The default directory permissions for /bin drwxrwxr-x is incompatible
  with perl tainting. chmod g-w /bin to allow perl -T scripts to run
  without warnings.

- included vendor_perl packages

  Rationale: Same local vendor_perl packages included as in 5.8.7,
  plus some of the new CPAN packages which went to core with 5.9.5,
  Bundle::CPAN, CPAN::Reporter, Module::Build for a full CPAN bootstrap,
  and the new patched libXML packages, and some almost-core
  dependencies:

  Pod-Escapes-1.04 Pod-Simple-3.05 Test-Pod-1.26
  Devel-Symdump-2.08 Pod-Coverage-0.19 Test-Pod-Coverage-1.08
  Compress-Raw-Bzip2-2.008 IO-Compress-Bzip2-2.008 Compress-Bzip2-2.09
  IO-String-1.08
  Archive-Zip-1.23
  Math-BigInt-FastCalc-0.15
  Term-ReadLine-Perl-1.0302 Term-ReadLine-Gnu-1.16 TermReadKey-2.30
  XML-NamespaceSupport-1.09 XML-SAX-0.16 XML-LibXML-Common-0.13
  XML-LibXML-1.65 XML-Parser-2.36
  Proc-ProcessTable-0.41
  YAML-0.66 Config-Tiny-2.12 File-Copy-Recursive-0.35 IPC-Run3-0.039
  Probe-Perl-0.01 Tee-0.13 IO-CaptureOutput-1.06 File-pushd-1.00
  File-HomeDir-0.67 Digest-SHA-5.45 Module-Signature-0.55
  URI-1.35 HTML-Tagset-3.10 HTML-Parser-3.56 libwww-perl-5.808
  CPAN-1.9205 Test-Reporter-1.38 CPAN-Reporter-1.0601
  Net-Telnet-3.03 Module-ScanDeps-0.81 PAR-Dist-0.25
  B-Generate-1.11 PadWalker-1.5 Alias-2.32

Thanks to Jerry D. Hedden and Jan Dubois.


I compiled a more detailed list of changes and status for cygports:

A diff of the modules from 5.8 to 5.10 is below.
Module::Build is definitely now in CORE.

completely new in 5.10:
Archive::Extract
Config::Extensions
CPANPLUS
Hash::Util::FieldHash
POSIX::SigRt
Time::Piece
encoding::warnings
ExtUtils::Constant::ProxySubs
Devel::InnerPackage
feature
File::Fetch
Log::Message
Module::Build
Module::CoreList
Module::Load
Module::Loaded
Module::Pluggable
mro
Object::Accessor
Package::Constants
Params::Check
Term::UI
Tie::Hash::NamedCapture
Tie::StdHandle

vendor-CORE:
Archive::Tar
Compress::Zlib
Win32API::File
Math::BigInt::FastCalc
ExtUtils::CBuilder
ExtUtils::ParseXS
File::Temp
Compress::Raw::Zlib
IO::Zlib
IPC::Cmd
Pod::Escapes
Pod::Simple
version

removed:
ByteLoader
B::Stackobj
B::Disassembler
B::C, ... The whole compiler is gone from CORE.
XS::APItest
XS::Typemap
dbm_filter_util
Test::Deep
Test::Tester

The complete filelist is at 
http://rurban.xarch.at/cygr/perl/perl-5.10.0-1.lst

the old one at http://rurban.xarch.at/cygr/perl/perl-5.8.8-4.lst

 2) Which modules are you adding to the Perl package?
 3) When do you plan to stabilize 5.10 (sounds like soon; is it really
 that well tested)?

It is in steady testing since summer (5.9.5), and
the final 

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: perl-5.10.0-1 [EXPERIMENTAL]

2007-12-27 Thread Reini Urban

Reini Urban schrieb:

Update recommendations:
---

Since 5.10 is not installed in parallel to 5.8 (it is possible, but not
with this package), all your old 5.8 modules will need to be reinstalled
for 5.10.
Your old 5.8 modules are not deleted, just not accessible to 5.10.
Non-binary packages can be used by adding /usr/lib/perl5/site_lib/5.8 to
your @INC, but the below procedure is recommended to get the latest
version for each installed package.
This will not harm most of your previous 5.8 modules in case you want to
switch back to 5.8, just the /bin scripts might get overwritten.

BEFORE INSTALLATION of 5.10 !
# get the list of installed 5.8 modules
$ perl -MExtUtils::Installed \
  -e'print join(\n, new ExtUtils::Installed-modules)'  module.list

AFTER INSTALLATION of 5.10 !
# install all previous modules for 5.10
$ cpan `cat module.list`


Thinking more of the involved upgrade path, I'll upload an improved 
version -2 on the weekend, which will include the old site_perl 
non-archlib path to @INC. This is similar to other distributions.

This is not as clean, but only binary modules will have to be recompiled.

  @INC:
/usr/lib/perl5/5.10/cygwin
/usr/lib/perl5/5.10
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10/cygwin
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10/cygwin
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8
.

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[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: perl-5.10.0-1 [EXPERIMENTAL]

2007-12-25 Thread Reini Urban

The cygwin perl packages perl and perl_manpages have
been updated in the experimental branch to 5.10.0-1.
  Click on [Exp]

Several libraries will follow soon. When all libraries have been updated 
we can switch from Experimental to Current.


perl-5.10.0 cygwin notes:

This release is binary incompatible with the previous 5.8 releases, but
compatible to all future 5.10.x releases. That's why we named the main
perl DLL /bin/cygperl5_10.dll and not cygperl5_10_0.dll.

The requirements for the special perl link driver ld2 and perlld had
been removed.

Cygwin mount point information is now accessible, esp. text/binary
detection.

Some modules have been added to vendor_perl, but most of the old vendor
modules moved to CORE.
Included are Bundle::CPAN, CPAN::Reporter, XML::LibXML and several
Test modules.
Note: Installed modules (e.g. via CPAN) in site_perl have higher
precedence than vendor_perl modules. So you can easily update these.

See http://www.perl.org/
ChangeLog: http://perldoc.perl.org/perldelta.html
Cygwin README: http://perldoc.perl.org/perlcygwin.html

Vendor patches:
* CYG04 - major.version cygperl5_10.dll and not cygperl5_10_x.dll
* CYG11 - no-bs Empty .bs files are not generated anymore

Update recommendations:
---

Since 5.10 is not installed in parallel to 5.8 (it is possible, but not
with this package), all your old 5.8 modules will need to be reinstalled
for 5.10.
Your old 5.8 modules are not deleted, just not accessible to 5.10.
Non-binary packages can be used by adding /usr/lib/perl5/site_lib/5.8 to
your @INC, but the below procedure is recommended to get the latest
version for each installed package.
This will not harm most of your previous 5.8 modules in case you want to
switch back to 5.8, just the /bin scripts might get overwritten.

BEFORE INSTALLATION of 5.10 !
# get the list of installed 5.8 modules
$ perl -MExtUtils::Installed \
  -e'print join(\n, new ExtUtils::Installed-modules)'  module.list

AFTER INSTALLATION of 5.10 !
# install all previous modules for 5.10
$ cpan `cat module.list`


Detailed NEWS from README
-
5.10.0-1

- Configure -de -Dmksymlinks -Duse64bitint -Dusethreads -Uusemymalloc \
-Doptimize='-O3' -Dman3ext='3pm' -Dusesitecustomize
  (unchanged from 5.8)

- cygwin /bin g+w incompatible with TAINT (-T)
  The default directory permissions for /bin drwxrwxr-x is incompatible
  with perl tainting. chmod g-w /bin to allow perl -T scripts to run
  without warnings.

- included vendor_perl packages

  Rationale: Same local vendor_perl packages included as in 5.8.7,
  plus some of the new CPAN packages which went to core with 5.9.5,
  Bundle::CPAN, CPAN::Reporter, Module::Build for a full CPAN bootstrap,
  and the new patched libXML packages, and some almost-core
  dependencies:

  Pod-Escapes-1.04 Pod-Simple-3.05 Test-Pod-1.26
  Devel-Symdump-2.08 Pod-Coverage-0.19 Test-Pod-Coverage-1.08
  Compress-Raw-Bzip2-2.008 IO-Compress-Bzip2-2.008 Compress-Bzip2-2.09
  IO-String-1.08
  Archive-Zip-1.23
  Math-BigInt-FastCalc-0.15
  Term-ReadLine-Perl-1.0302 Term-ReadLine-Gnu-1.16 TermReadKey-2.30
  XML-NamespaceSupport-1.09 XML-SAX-0.16 XML-LibXML-Common-0.13
  XML-LibXML-1.65 XML-Parser-2.36
  Proc-ProcessTable-0.41
  YAML-0.66 Config-Tiny-2.12 File-Copy-Recursive-0.35 IPC-Run3-0.039
  Probe-Perl-0.01 Tee-0.13 IO-CaptureOutput-1.06 File-pushd-1.00
  File-HomeDir-0.67 Digest-SHA-5.45 Module-Signature-0.55
  URI-1.35 HTML-Tagset-3.10 HTML-Parser-3.56 libwww-perl-5.808
  CPAN-1.9205 Test-Reporter-1.38 CPAN-Reporter-1.0601
  Net-Telnet-3.03 Module-ScanDeps-0.81 PAR-Dist-0.25
  B-Generate-1.11 PadWalker-1.5 Alias-2.32

Thanks to Jerry D. Hedden and Jan Dubois.



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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: perl-5.10.0-1 [EXPERIMENTAL]

2007-12-25 Thread Angelo Graziosi

The package perl-5.10.0-1 is marked as exp. but perl_manpages-5.10.0-1 not.

Is this correct? or also perl_manpages-5.10.0-1 should be released as exp.?


Cheers,
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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: perl-5.10.0-1 [EXPERIMENTAL]

2007-12-25 Thread Reini Urban

Angelo Graziosi schrieb:

The package perl-5.10.0-1 is marked as exp. but perl_manpages-5.10.0-1 not.

Is this correct? or also perl_manpages-5.10.0-1 should be released as exp.?


Christopher, can you please update the perl_manpages hint also?
http://rurban.xarch.at/cygr/perl/perl_manpages/setup.hint

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: perl-5.10.0-1 [EXPERIMENTAL]

2007-12-25 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 01:44:24AM +0100, Reini Urban wrote:
 Angelo Graziosi schrieb:
The package perl-5.10.0-1 is marked as exp.  but perl_manpages-5.10.0-1
not.  Is this correct?  or also perl_manpages-5.10.0-1 should be
released as exp.?

Christopher, can you please update the perl_manpages hint also?
http://rurban.xarch.at/cygr/perl/perl_manpages/setup.hint

Done.

cgf

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