Re: OT: Krazy USB Kameras (RE: Programatically finding value of cygdrive prefix)

2005-08-17 Thread Hannu E K Nevalainen
On Tue, 2005-08-16 at 20:41 -0500, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
 [snip]
  
  NOTE: A digital camera shows up as an USB drive, i.e. a DOS 
  drive - e.g. /cygdrive/next free letter - and is available 
  so long as the camera stays ON (it eventually WILL go OFF 
  after last use, just as your screen blanker! Depending on how 
  you've set it or use it.)
  
 
 A USB Mass Storage Device that does this is poorly designed at best, and
 probably not compliant with the USB specification.  I can't recall a
 situation where a device is allowed to just disappear once plugged in and
 enumerated without the user doing something (a bus-powered device anyway).
 You should see if there is a firmware upgrade available for it.

Poorly designed or not, that is the way a Minolta Dimage Z1 behaves, at
least mine does - with my current settings. As this a year++ old device
I really see it as out of date and not prone to have FW upgrades
available. 
OTOH, I find it more alarming as the situation creates fs problems,
which actually happens when Windows is involved. (I have yet to see this
problem on Linux)
NOTE: I ALWAYS run it on batteries. (One round of batteries lasts all
from two weeks to 3 hours - depending on how intensely I use it. A three
hour sojourn gives me a full CD of images at least.)

 Then again, I know firsthand that Microsoft had USB Mass Storage pretty
 wildly wrong as late as the release of XP SP...2 I think, maybe 1, so who
 knows, could be MS's fault.

Might be so, wouldn't be a big surprise - I run this camera against 2k,
XP and Linux (cygwin involved on Wins).

OT - END of THREAD.
/Hannu E K Nevalainen


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OT: Krazy USB Kameras (RE: Programatically finding value of cygdrive prefix)

2005-08-16 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
[snip]
 
 NOTE: A digital camera shows up as an USB drive, i.e. a DOS 
 drive - e.g. /cygdrive/next free letter - and is available 
 so long as the camera stays ON (it eventually WILL go OFF 
 after last use, just as your screen blanker! Depending on how 
 you've set it or use it.)
 

A USB Mass Storage Device that does this is poorly designed at best, and
probably not compliant with the USB specification.  I can't recall a
situation where a device is allowed to just disappear once plugged in and
enumerated without the user doing something (a bus-powered device anyway).
You should see if there is a firmware upgrade available for it.

Then again, I know firsthand that Microsoft had USB Mass Storage pretty
wildly wrong as late as the release of XP SP...2 I think, maybe 1, so who
knows, could be MS's fault.

-- 
Gary R. Van Sickle


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Re: OT: Krazy USB Kameras (RE: Programatically finding value of cygdrive prefix)

2005-08-16 Thread Reid Thompson

Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:


[snip]
 

NOTE: A digital camera shows up as an USB drive, i.e. a DOS 
drive - e.g. /cygdrive/next free letter - and is available 
so long as the camera stays ON (it eventually WILL go OFF 
after last use, just as your screen blanker! Depending on how 
you've set it or use it.)


   



A USB Mass Storage Device that does this is poorly designed at best, and
probably not compliant with the USB specification.  I can't recall a
situation where a device is allowed to just disappear once plugged in and
enumerated without the user doing something (a bus-powered device anyway).
You should see if there is a firmware upgrade available for it.

Then again, I know firsthand that Microsoft had USB Mass Storage pretty
wildly wrong as late as the release of XP SP...2 I think, maybe 1, so who
knows, could be MS's fault.

 



Most cameras have an auto-off function to preserve battery power. I do 
not think any of them are actually usb powered when plugged in.  I know 
that mine will NOT function without charged batteries in it even when 
plugged into a port. I suppose that if a camera has the means to turn 
off the auto-shutoff function then it will not disappear until the 
batteries fail, whereupon it will act like any other externally powered 
USB device and become unaccessable.  I believe that some cameras come 
with an external power adapter that will provide continuous power.


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