Re: Kudos to Daniel Reed
On 2003-10-21T13:06-0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: ) I think we need a big gold star for Daniel Reed, our new package ) coordinator. In my many years of association with Cygwin, I don't think ) I've ever seen anyone "come down running" and pick up on the job so ) quickly. ... ) Thanks, Daniel. You are very, very welcome. I truly consider it a privilege to participate so actively in such a great project. Thank you for giving me that opportunity. -- Daniel Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://naim-users.org/nmlorg/ http://naim.n.ml.org/ It is so easy to miss pretty trivial solutions to problems deemed complicated. The goal of a scientist is to find an interesting problem, and live off it for a while. The goal of an engineer is to evade interesting problems :) -- Vadim Antonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on NANOG -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Kudos to Daniel Reed
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > > I think we need a big gold star for Daniel Reed, our new package > > coordinator. In my many years of association with Cygwin, I don't think > > I've ever seen anyone "come down running" and pick up on the job so > > quickly. > > > > For those who don't know, Dan, maintains the "pending package list" and > > uploads new/updated packages to the sources.redhat.com site. > > > > In an entirely volunteer-driven effort you have to be thankful with whatever > > people are willing to provide. I'm very thankful that Daniel is providing > > such high quality service in his new position. > > > > Thanks, Daniel. > > cgf > > Ok, one star for the KOTPPLAUOP, coming up... Thanks, Dan! > Igor Hmm, I guess not... For some reason, the CVS HEAD version doesn't show up on the cygwin.com site. It does show up on CVSweb. What gives? Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! "I have since come to realize that being between your mentor and his route to the bathroom is a major career booster." -- Patrick Naughton -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Kudos to Daniel Reed
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote: > I think we need a big gold star for Daniel Reed, our new package > coordinator. In my many years of association with Cygwin, I don't think > I've ever seen anyone "come down running" and pick up on the job so > quickly. > > For those who don't know, Dan, maintains the "pending package list" and > uploads new/updated packages to the sources.redhat.com site. > > In an entirely volunteer-driven effort you have to be thankful with whatever > people are willing to provide. I'm very thankful that Daniel is providing > such high quality service in his new position. > > Thanks, Daniel. > cgf Ok, one star for the KOTPPLAUOP, coming up... Thanks, Dan! Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! "I have since come to realize that being between your mentor and his route to the bathroom is a major career booster." -- Patrick Naughton -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Kudos
> "We are always more anxious to be distinguished for a talent which we do > not possess, than to be praised for the fifteen which we do possess." > -- Mark Twain Very good quote, Chris. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Kudos
Gershon Kagan wrote: Do you use make in a GNU emacs X window on both platforms for an identical build interface? Do you use gcc on both platforms or MS Visual C++ ? How do your makefiles support multiple platforms? I wrote some templates that generate Makefiles that use make variables to support the native compiler on multiple platforms. I just wanted to compare approaches. I use emacs for maintenance work and fixing build problems. The builds are automated, with a status monitoring system that reports on builds in real time to a database server that distributes the information to Java GUI clients, so developers can see whether their build worked and what kinds of errors have been detected. We use AT&T nmake with native compilers on all platforms (xlC on AIX, cc/aCC on HPUX, cc/CC on SUNOS, msvc++ 5/6 on Windows). AT&T nmake is vastly superior to GNU make feature-wise. I think it was originally written for performance reasons, to reduce the AT&T 5ESS switch build times, which were taking several days back in the 80's. The cross-platform abilities are a major reason we use it -- we use the same ksh build scripts and same makefiles on all machines. There are some conditionals for platform tests, but it is minimal because of the rule set we have running on top of the nmake engine (we don't use the rule set that comes with nmake). Basically, we developed a set of functions that get used in the makefiles. Like this: temp.exe :make: file1.c file2.cpp libwhatever.a The :make: function takes care of filename translation (libwhatever.a becomes libewhatever.lib on a Windows box) and generation of all the make rules and shell command blocks to generate temp.exe, build lint for it, export it into an export area, etc. If we want to add something, we just change :make: in the master rules file and don't have to touch the makefiles. Parallel build performance is another reason we use it. GNU make can do parallel builds, but it does not have any mutual exclusion capabilities built in for rules that conflict with one another -- nmake does. Then there's automatic header file scanning, compiled makefiles (for speed), state retention between builds (also for speed), viewpathing (for multiple developers working against a shared baseline build), much simplified makefiles, and probably a few other things that don't occur to me at the moment. Oh, yes, shell command blocks are just that, blocks -- they are not executed one line per shell and you don't need those awful \ characters to continue lines. Multimachine network builds are supported also, though we don't use that (yet). -- Joe Buehler -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Kudos
Christopher Faylor wrote: I just wanted to say thank you to all of the dedicated people on this mailing list who spend countless hours answering questions. My hat is off to all of you. There is no way that cygwin could survive without your guidance and support. Thank YOU Cygwin hackers for Cygwin itself -- you have no idea what life was like before I could get a real X11 GNU emacs on our remote Windows NT build machines. We use Cygwin now and have identical build environments on UNIX and NT using the AT&T ast (ksh93) software. -- Joe Buehler -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Kudos
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 06:05:10PM -0500, mstucky5 wrote: > >- Original Message - >From: "Christopher Faylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 5:42 PM >Subject: Kudos > > >> I just wanted to say thank you to all of the dedicated people on this >> mailing list who spend countless hours answering questions. My hat is >> off to all of you. There is no way that cygwin could survive without >> your guidance and support. >> >> Thank you! >> >> cgf > >... And from one of the long time lurkers here, I would like >to thank Chris for his hard work! > >... and his almost infinite patience with us mere mortals :) "We are always more anxious to be distinguished for a talent which we do not possess, than to be praised for the fifteen which we do possess." -- Mark Twain cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Kudos
- Original Message - From: "Christopher Faylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 5:42 PM Subject: Kudos > I just wanted to say thank you to all of the dedicated people on this > mailing list who spend countless hours answering questions. My hat is > off to all of you. There is no way that cygwin could survive without > your guidance and support. > > Thank you! > > cgf ... And from one of the long time lurkers here, I would like to thank Chris for his hard work! ... and his almost infinite patience with us mere mortals :) --Mark -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: kudos!
Does this mean that Cygwin is not ready for production?? Darn!! and I was just getting ready to roll it out to my biggest client - Randy's Pizza and Bait. ( sorry - not realation ) Brian Kelly -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Randall R Schulz Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 9:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: kudos! Alec, There appears to have been an error in the delivery your message. All that got through was a simple thank-you and a compliment. Apparently lost in the transmission of your message was the part following the complimentary thank-you in which you complain about the idiotic way in which file permissions are handled, the blatant failure of the "login" and "su" commands, the non-standard tty signal handling and dozens of other not-too-small defects that collectively show that the Cygwin engineers (so-called) know nothing about security, Unix, Windows, C/C++ or probably even what a Turing machine is. Also missing was the incontrovertible and unambiguous evidence of Cygwin's utter shoddiness displayed by your perfectly functional Linux software whose compilation under Cygwin causes the seriously mis-configured GCC compiler to emit thousands of diagnostics and how after you managed to squelch them all, the resulting executable not only crashes immediately after being invoked but also causes Cygwin to bring your system down with a BSOD. Could you resend please? We prefer HTML mail with lots of embedded screen shots in BMP format that depict the multifarious defects in graphic detail for all the world to see. Thanks. We'll all feel better when we get that. Randall Schulz At 18:05 2003-02-15, Alec Effrat wrote: >Just wanted to drop a note... kudos on a great thing for those of us >enslaved on a wintendo. > > > > >-- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: kudos!
> At the risk of yet another torrent of sarcasm, I fully concur with Alec. Cygwin > ROCKS THE CASBAH! Warts and all. Everybody involved should be proud of what's > been done here. In my work alone, you've directly contributed to saving untold > numbers of lives (we build heart diagnostic equipment). Lord knows what other > great things Cygwin is enabling around the world. This thread is really funny =) Anyway, many thanks to all you cygwin engineers for this great job! Ever since I was introduced to cygwin, I never left it.Sometimes, posts in this list really get funny when the same question (or type of question) gets asked again and again. cgf reposted them all correctly! I never imagine how I'd get things done if I work without cygwin--from simple grepping to using rxvt, vi, wget and lynx and all those nice linux utilities. Regards, Carlo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: kudos!
> Gary R. Van Sickle wrote > >... > > A-MEN brother Schulz, A-MEN! Onward and upward! Every day, and in > every way, > > it is getting better and better![1] > > ... > > [1] Extra credit for the first person who knows where this sentence > was stolen > > from ;-). > > I think it's a corruption of some words by Emile Coue: > "Tous les jours a tous points de vue je vais de mieux en mieux." > (i.e "... I am getting better and better.") > > Another variation (...life is getting...) appears in John Lennon's > Beautiful Boy. > Oh... well... um, no, my source is a bit more mundane. Shoulda said "where *I* stole this from": Former Chief Inspector Dreyfuss from "The Pink Panther Strikes Again", shortly before he tries (HI-LARIOUSLY) to kill Chief Inspector Jacques Clouseau of the Surété. -- Gary R. Van Sickle Brewer. Patriot. Mrs. Leverlilly: You've ruined that piano! Chief Inspector Jacques Clouseau: What is the price of one piano compared to the terrible crime that's been committed here? Mrs. Leverlilly: But that's a priceless Steinway! Chief Inspector Jacques Clouseau: Not anymore. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: kudos!
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, Randall R Schulz wrote: > Gary, > > At 22:17 2003-02-15, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > >You know, I've been 'round these parts for a long time now, and I recall very > >few instances of the "Cygwin sucks" type of messages you > Then your memory is faulty. Too much fruit of the brewery? Posts of > which mine was a caricature are a regular feature. Evidently Chris Perhaps Gary would have been more accurate if he had said "I recall relatively few ..." Really, the complaints are a minority of the posts on this list, however deeply they stick in the minds of those that care about such things. > >At the risk of yet another torrent of sarcasm, I fully concur with > >Alec. Cygwin ROCKS THE CASBAH! Me too! -- Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.justaaron.com - general silliness www.yangarts.com - serious business -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: kudos!
I would like to add here the fact that a large portion of the user base of Cygwin is in fact Microsoft users. One of the problems with the Microsoft user base is that there is a disproportionate amount of "know it all" type people, the type of people that will blame everything under the moon for their problems but never actually look at their own assumptions and quite often, not even read the related documentation before complaining. Just wanted to let every body know that in my humble option Cygwin offers a REAL service to the world community and that for every loud mouth complainer out their, there is a thousand more people, like me, that quietly using Cygwin without screaming how good it is all the time. All this to say that the complains to compliments ratio perceived on this list is not at all representative of the real world. For what its worth, I offer my thanks to the cygwin community for I use cygwin to great benefit all the time. again thank you all. Gerald I n t e r K n o w l e d g e Gerald Villemure I am a DO-er, not a TRY-er. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: kudos!
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote >... > A-MEN brother Schulz, A-MEN! Onward and upward! Every day, and in every way, > it is getting better and better![1] > ... > [1] Extra credit for the first person who knows where this sentence was stolen > from ;-). I think it's a corruption of some words by Emile Coue: "Tous les jours a tous points de vue je vais de mieux en mieux." (i.e "... I am getting better and better.") Another variation (...life is getting...) appears in John Lennon's Beautiful Boy. -- Cliff -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: kudos!
> Gary, > > At 22:17 2003-02-15, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > >You know, I've been 'round these parts for a long time now, and I recall very > >few instances of the "Cygwin sucks" type of messages you > >describe. Like one guy > >in fact. Yeah, I know it's meant in jest, but lordy, learn how to take a > >compliment guys, sheesh. > > Then your memory is faulty. Too much fruit of the brewery? Perhaps not enough ;-). Gotta go with the new "Sam Light" or whatever they call it though, I'm in training. > Posts of > which mine was a caricature are a regular feature. Evidently Chris > thought so, too. I reviewed a few samples of the genre to get ideas on > how to compose my own feeble attempt at humor. > "[...] that collectively show that the Cygwin engineers (so-called) know nothing about security, Unix, Windows, C/C++ or probably even what a Turing machine is." As I said, I've seen virtually none of this. Plenty of "hmmm, Solaris does it different, can somebody change it?" type stuff, very little "You guys are a bunch of dumbasses" type stuff. Maybe I'm not reading the right posts though, I don't know. > And I take exactly none of the compliment or gratitude as accruing to > my benefit, so perhaps it was out of line for me to write what I did, > but it was meant strictly as humor. > Hey, no accusations here. It just strikes me as extremely odd that a one-line "great job!" from a newcomer results in pages of sarcasm. Yeah, I get it (other than my point above), and it's funny even after the 687th time ;-), but he won't. I don't know, it just seems like strange behavior to me, like people have this anger brewing in them about the list, about, as the great philosopher Thomas Petty once put it, "silly little things that don't add up to nothin'". Then again, welcome to cygwin@ ;-)! > > >... > > > >At the risk of yet another torrent of sarcasm, I fully concur with > >Alec. Cygwin ROCKS THE CASBAH! > > I sure hope I haven't given the impression that I feel otherwise. I > talk Cygwin up a lot outside this forum. > Nononononono. You help out a lot on the list. Nobody's thinking you're not a Cygwin booster. > > >Warts and all. Everybody involved should be proud of what's been done > >here. In my work alone, you've directly contributed to saving untold > >numbers of lives (we build heart diagnostic equipment). Lord knows > >what other great things Cygwin is enabling around the world. > > And the warts themselves become ever fewer and more negligible. A-MEN brother Schulz, A-MEN! Onward and upward! Every day, and in every way, it is getting better and better![1] -- Gary R. Van Sickle Brewer. Patriot. [1] Extra credit for the first person who knows where this sentence was stolen from ;-). -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: kudos!
Gary, At 22:17 2003-02-15, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: You know, I've been 'round these parts for a long time now, and I recall very few instances of the "Cygwin sucks" type of messages you describe. Like one guy in fact. Yeah, I know it's meant in jest, but lordy, learn how to take a compliment guys, sheesh. Then your memory is faulty. Too much fruit of the brewery? Posts of which mine was a caricature are a regular feature. Evidently Chris thought so, too. I reviewed a few samples of the genre to get ideas on how to compose my own feeble attempt at humor. And I take exactly none of the compliment or gratitude as accruing to my benefit, so perhaps it was out of line for me to write what I did, but it was meant strictly as humor. ... At the risk of yet another torrent of sarcasm, I fully concur with Alec. Cygwin ROCKS THE CASBAH! I sure hope I haven't given the impression that I feel otherwise. I talk Cygwin up a lot outside this forum. Warts and all. Everybody involved should be proud of what's been done here. In my work alone, you've directly contributed to saving untold numbers of lives (we build heart diagnostic equipment). Lord knows what other great things Cygwin is enabling around the world. And the warts themselves become ever fewer and more negligible. -- Gary R. Van Sickle Brewer. Patriot. Randall Schulz -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: kudos!
You know, I've been 'round these parts for a long time now, and I recall very few instances of the "Cygwin sucks" type of messages you describe. Like one guy in fact. Yeah, I know it's meant in jest, but lordy, learn how to take a compliment guys, sheesh. Then again, maybe I just haven't listened to enough Garrison Keillor ;-). At the risk of yet another torrent of sarcasm, I fully concur with Alec. Cygwin ROCKS THE CASBAH! Warts and all. Everybody involved should be proud of what's been done here. In my work alone, you've directly contributed to saving untold numbers of lives (we build heart diagnostic equipment). Lord knows what other great things Cygwin is enabling around the world. -- Gary R. Van Sickle Brewer. Patriot. > Alec, > > There appears to have been an error in the delivery your message. All > that got through was a simple thank-you and a compliment. > > Apparently lost in the transmission of your message was the part > following the complimentary thank-you in which you complain about the > idiotic way in which file permissions are handled, the blatant failure > of the "login" and "su" commands, the non-standard tty signal handling > and dozens of other not-too-small defects that collectively show that > the Cygwin engineers (so-called) know nothing about security, Unix, > Windows, C/C++ or probably even what a Turing machine is. > > Also missing was the incontrovertible and unambiguous evidence of > Cygwin's utter shoddiness displayed by your perfectly functional Linux > software whose compilation under Cygwin causes the seriously > mis-configured GCC compiler to emit thousands of diagnostics and how > after you managed to squelch them all, the resulting executable not > only crashes immediately after being invoked but also causes Cygwin to > bring your system down with a BSOD. > > Could you resend please? We prefer HTML mail with lots of embedded > screen shots in BMP format that depict the multifarious defects in > graphic detail for all the world to see. > > Thanks. We'll all feel better when we get that. > > Randall Schulz > > > At 18:05 2003-02-15, Alec Effrat wrote: > >Just wanted to drop a note... kudos on a great thing for those of us > >enslaved on a wintendo. > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: kudos!
I think I can turn this into an awk script and get my Cyppy auto-answer system
on line in no time! Lesse if I remember:
/It's too hard to set up/ { print ASCIICyppy; print FAQSetup; }
/You can't read your man pages/ { print ASCIICyppy; print FAQman; }
It's so crazy it just might work
--
Gary R. Van Sickle
Brewer. Patriot.
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 09:05:29PM -0500, Alec Effrat wrote:
> >Just wanted to drop a note... kudos on a great thing for those of us
> >enslaved on a wintendo.
>
> but...? but...?
>
> Come on. It's a great thing, but...
>
> It's too hard to set up?
>
> The people are too mean?
>
> You can't allocate 27G of memory?
>
> You can't get cron to work?
>
> You can't look at files over 2G?
>
> You can't look at your Word docs with it?
>
> tcl/tk is completely broken?
>
> You can't read your man pages?
>
> rsync keeps hanging for you?
>
> nothing works quite right since B.20?
>
> You can't get multiwindow mode to work?
>
> Hey. That's off-topic. I'm redirecting myself to the cygwin-xfree
> mailing list.
>
> cgf
> (Thanks for the kudos) :-)
>
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Re: kudos!
I think Randall R Schulz wrote: > Alec, > > There appears to have been an error in the delivery your message. All > that got through was a simple thank-you and a compliment. Boy, I can just see poor Alec scratching his head... - Ernest Friedman-Hill Distributed Systems ResearchPhone: (925) 294-2154 Sandia National LabsFAX: (925) 294-2234 PO Box 969, MS 9012 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Livermore, CA 94550 http://herzberg.ca.sandia.gov -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: kudos!
Alec, There appears to have been an error in the delivery your message. All that got through was a simple thank-you and a compliment. Apparently lost in the transmission of your message was the part following the complimentary thank-you in which you complain about the idiotic way in which file permissions are handled, the blatant failure of the "login" and "su" commands, the non-standard tty signal handling and dozens of other not-too-small defects that collectively show that the Cygwin engineers (so-called) know nothing about security, Unix, Windows, C/C++ or probably even what a Turing machine is. Also missing was the incontrovertible and unambiguous evidence of Cygwin's utter shoddiness displayed by your perfectly functional Linux software whose compilation under Cygwin causes the seriously mis-configured GCC compiler to emit thousands of diagnostics and how after you managed to squelch them all, the resulting executable not only crashes immediately after being invoked but also causes Cygwin to bring your system down with a BSOD. Could you resend please? We prefer HTML mail with lots of embedded screen shots in BMP format that depict the multifarious defects in graphic detail for all the world to see. Thanks. We'll all feel better when we get that. Randall Schulz At 18:05 2003-02-15, Alec Effrat wrote: Just wanted to drop a note... kudos on a great thing for those of us enslaved on a wintendo. -- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: kudos!
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 09:05:29PM -0500, Alec Effrat wrote: >Just wanted to drop a note... kudos on a great thing for those of us >enslaved on a wintendo. but...? but...? Come on. It's a great thing, but... It's too hard to set up? The people are too mean? You can't allocate 27G of memory? You can't get cron to work? You can't look at files over 2G? You can't look at your Word docs with it? tcl/tk is completely broken? You can't read your man pages? rsync keeps hanging for you? nothing works quite right since B.20? You can't get multiwindow mode to work? Hey. That's off-topic. I'm redirecting myself to the cygwin-xfree mailing list. cgf (Thanks for the kudos) :-) -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
