Re: vi and cygwin
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:20:00 -0800, Brian Dessent wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Totte Karlsson wrote: my question was if vi is available under cygwin. I know about vim and about it's compatible option. Just curious if there is a pure vi available and it seems not to be... Then the answer is no. What you see with setup.exe is what you get. (WYSWSIWYG?) Someone out there at some point in time might have ported pure vi to compile with Cygwin but if so it's not an official package and therefore you'd have to find/ask that person about it, not this list. Wrong. The answer is yes. Go to http://ex-vi.berlios.de/, download a copy of BSD licensed Unix 7 ex sourcecode, do a couple of trivial modifications and you are in business. Now, why is not ITP'ed by yours truly? Because the maintainer doesn't want it ported to Windows, that's why. I may find he is a pompous cuadruped arse when it comes to his people skills, but I do agree with 95% of the reasons he has not to want such port; so, you are on your own, unless someone else with less sensitivity steps in and packages it.. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: vi and cygwin
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Alejandro Lopez-Valencia wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:20:00 -0800, Brian Dessent wrote: Totte Karlsson wrote: my question was if vi is available under cygwin. I know about vim and about it's compatible option. Just curious if there is a pure vi available and it seems not to be... Then the answer is no. What you see with setup.exe is what you get. (WYSWSIWYG?) Someone out there at some point in time might have ported pure vi to compile with Cygwin but if so it's not an official package and therefore you'd have to find/ask that person about it, not this list. Wrong. AFAIU, the question was whether pure 'vi' was available *as a Cygwin package*. The answer is no. Brian is totally correct. The answer is yes. Go to http://ex-vi.berlios.de/, download a copy of BSD licensed Unix 7 ex sourcecode, do a couple of trivial modifications and you are in business. This is not a Cygwin package. Now, why is not ITP'ed by yours truly? Because the maintainer doesn't want it ported to Windows, that's why. FWIW, I couldn't find anything on the above web page about this. However, I do recall some discussion on this mailing list a year or so ago) about some piece of software or another (possibly even by the same author) that wasn't available for the same reason. The decision was to forget it (of course). Perhaps someone else can help unearth the pointers to the actual threads (ah, after I typed the above, a Google search for gunnar ritter Cygwin showed that this was about nail, by the same author, and happened almost exactly a year ago). I may find he is a pompous cuadruped arse when it comes to his people skills, but I do agree with 95% of the reasons he has not to want such port; so, you are on your own, unless someone else with less sensitivity steps in and packages it.. We can't go against the wishes of the original author (especially if those wishes are part of the license). Furthermore, no upstream patches will be accepted for such a project, so maintaining a Cygwin version may (and probably will) turn out to be a nightmare. I pity the foolhardy soul who decides to take it on. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! I have since come to realize that being between your mentor and his route to the bathroom is a major career booster. -- Patrick Naughton -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: vi and cygwin
Igor Pechtchanski scribbled on Saturday, February 21, 2004 9:13 AM: Please don't CC me on mailing list traffic, Thanks and cheers Alejo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: vi and cygwin
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Alejandro Lopez-Valencia wrote: Igor Pechtchanski scribbled on Saturday, February 21, 2004 9:13 AM: Please don't CC me on mailing list traffic, ^^ Hey, I didn't say *that*! You did. :-) Thanks and cheers Alejo Actually, this happens automatically when Reply-all is used in my mailer, pine (I had to explicitly remove you from the recipient list on this message). If you don't wish this to happen, please set Reply-To: appropriately (like I do). Alternatively, there's a cygwin-replyto list that you can subscribe to that will do it for you (see, for example, http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-01/msg01203.html). Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! I have since come to realize that being between your mentor and his route to the bathroom is a major career booster. -- Patrick Naughton -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: vi and cygwin
OK, you are correct, vim is vi! ...it's just spelled different I guess.. Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Totte Karlsson (2004-02-21 02:25 +0100) does not mean that vim is vi! Read my question! Read my answer: vim behaves like vi, it is called with vi in the shell and therefor it /is/ vi (http://www.netbsd.org/Misc/call-it-a-duck.html). The original vi is not free software so you will hardly find it on any Linux machine (same with ksh for example). Thorsten -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: vi and cygwin
Totte Karlsson wrote: How do I get vi working under cygwin? Is it available? Install the vim package, using setup.exe. That is the standard method for isntalling all Cygwin packages. Brian -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: vi and cygwin
yeah, I know about the standard method but could not find vi there, only vim. So one should use vim? There is no pure vi? -totte Brian Dessent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Totte Karlsson wrote: How do I get vi working under cygwin? Is it available? Install the vim package, using setup.exe. That is the standard method for isntalling all Cygwin packages. Brian -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: vi and cygwin
Not sure what you are trying to accomplish, but try this command-line option with vim. -+- man vim -+- -C Compatible. Set the 'compatible' option. This will make Vim behave mostly like Vi, even though a .vimrc file exists. -Original Message- From: cygwin-owner at cygwin dot com [mailto: cygwin-owner at cygwin dot com] On Behalf Of Totte Karlsson Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 4:39 PM To: cygwin at cygwin dot com Subject: Re: vi and cygwin yeah, I know about the standard method but could not find vi there, only vim. So one should use vim? There is no pure vi? -totte Brian Dessent brian at dessent dot net wrote in message news: 40368B56.4ABE506D at dessent dot net... Totte Karlsson wrote: How do I get vi working under cygwin? Is it available? Install the vim package, using setup.exe. That is the standard method for isntalling all Cygwin packages. Brian -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: vi and cygwin
my question was if vi is available under cygwin. I know about vim and about it's compatible option. Just curious if there is a pure vi available and it seems not to be... thanks though /totte DePriest, Jason R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Not sure what you are trying to accomplish, but try this command-line option with vim. -+- man vim -+- -C Compatible. Set the 'compatible' option. This will make Vim behave mostly like Vi, even though a .vimrc file exists. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: vi and cygwin
Totte Karlsson wrote: my question was if vi is available under cygwin. I know about vim and about it's compatible option. Just curious if there is a pure vi available and it seems not to be... Then the answer is no. What you see with setup.exe is what you get. (WYSWSIWYG?) Someone out there at some point in time might have ported pure vi to compile with Cygwin but if so it's not an official package and therefore you'd have to find/ask that person about it, not this list. Brian -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: vi and cygwin
* Totte Karlsson (2004-02-20 23:49 +0100) my question was if vi is available under cygwin. I know about vim and about it's compatible option. Just curious if there is a pure vi available and it seems not to be... If you knew vim you knew that it has a vi compatibility mode - vim can emulate vi perfectly. Thorsten -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: vi and cygwin
does not mean that vim is vi! Read my question! Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Totte Karlsson (2004-02-20 23:49 +0100) my question was if vi is available under cygwin. I know about vim and about it's compatible option. Just curious if there is a pure vi available and it seems not to be... If you knew vim you knew that it has a vi compatibility mode - vim can emulate vi perfectly. Thorsten -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: vi and cygwin
* Totte Karlsson (2004-02-21 02:25 +0100) does not mean that vim is vi! Read my question! Read my answer: vim behaves like vi, it is called with vi in the shell and therefor it /is/ vi (http://www.netbsd.org/Misc/call-it-a-duck.html). The original vi is not free software so you will hardly find it on any Linux machine (same with ksh for example). Thorsten -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: vi and cygwin
On 2004-02-21, Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Totte Karlsson (2004-02-21 02:25 +0100) does not mean that vim is vi! Read my question! The original vi is not free software so you will hardly find it on any Linux machine (same with ksh for example). Not quite true. http://ex-vi.berlios.de/ -- James -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
